Question:
Bible Scholars: Which "crown" is missing from this list?
Simon Peter
2008-01-14 14:49:39 UTC
In a discussion with my Christian "dad" tonight, on the crowns given believers: He says there are 5 but he could not remember a reference for the 5th, and I was unable to locate it in my concordance. Anyone know the fifth and the verse for it???

1. Crown of Rejoicing - 1 Thess. 2:19

2. Crown of Righteousness - 2 Timothy 4:8

3. Crown of Life - James 1:12; Rev. 2:10

4. Crown of Glory 1 Peter 5:4 (I know, some say this only applies to preachers)

5. ?

For anyone feeling really motivated on this, what do they mean to you?
Sixteen answers:
bethy4jesus
2008-01-15 17:18:08 UTC
ok.....here is what they mean to me...

1) Crown of Rejoicing

Paul was talking to the Thessalonian converts in 1 Thess.

2:19. He was looking forward to the joy of his labors. In

verse 20 he says ..."for YE are our glory and joy." I believe

that the souls that we have worked for will be a star in our

crown of rejoicing.



2) Crown of Righteousness

In 2 Tim.4:7,8 Paul is saying that he fought a good fight and

has finished it. So the Lord who is the Judge will give him

a crown of righteousness. Paul's testimony in Phil. 3:13,14

says that he talks about keeping his eyes on the prize of

the high calling of God. In Heb.12:1,2 he talks about run-

ning the race and looking to Jesus, the Author and Finisher

of our faith. I believe these descriptions are all synono-

mous.



3) Crown of Life

This crown is for the overcomer.....one who endures tempt-

ation according to James 1:12. They will endure trials but

will be faithful from Rev. 2:10. These overcomers will also

have a new name and eat the hidden manna. Rev.2:17



4) Crown of Glory

It does talk about the elders feeding the flock and not forc-

ing them but letting them make a choice. I believe it means

that we should be examples to others because without

purity and holiness of heart we cannot win the crown of

immortal glory.



5) Incorruptible Crown or Crown of Self-Denial

Paul compares the flowers the victor of the Grecians' foot

races received to the crown of immortal glory. They raced

for the corruptible crown but we are to run our race for the

incorruptible one. The Grecians spared no discipline in

order to win. Our prize is infinitely more valuable so how

much more we should be willing to sacrifice and be in self-

denial.
troll to troll
2008-01-15 00:40:39 UTC
5) Incorruptable. This is not only to stay clean from the flesh but also to stay focused and stay the course. These are things of which God approves.



Paul begins talking about the "reward" in 1 Corinthians 9 verse 18.

18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.



Note verse 20: We may speak to a person as a person may understand but the message must not be "corrupted" this is yet another aspect of this crown. We know the church in Rome corrupted the message to fit the people of an area or what the people wanted and we know that this was done also at the end of the last century to fit the latest "modern" pyramid ideas of certain groups that exist even today in a cult form. A Christian may not corrupt the message for popularity.



4) Glory - if God has given a person the knowledge then certainly they have the ability and the oppurtunity. This is for all Christians for Paul was writing to all Christians at the behest of the Holy Spirit.



Steadfastness - 2 Timothy 2:1-5 Gaining the crowns calls for "purity" in everything we do. Purity in thought and deed.
Firefly
2008-01-15 21:04:36 UTC
1Co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.



Incorruptible crown?



Don't like the crown of thorns... but they are given to believers..



Joh 19:5 Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!



People who are in Christ can be a crown.

Phi 4:1 Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.
candi_k7
2008-01-14 23:00:13 UTC
Crown of Gold Revelation 4:4
Elder Greg
2008-01-14 22:58:00 UTC
Sorry, but the only other crowns I could find were...



1 Cor. 9:25

And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.



Php. 4:1

Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.



Perhaps he meant an "incorruptible crown"?



Elder G~
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2008-01-14 22:56:11 UTC
Crown of Victory - 2 Timothy 2:5?



Crown of Incorruptibility - 1 Corinthians 9:25?



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2008-01-15 10:59:54 UTC
I do not accept 1 Cor. 9:25 as a crown of incorruptibility, simply because it is understood by Christians that EVERYTHING IN HEAVEN is incorruptible--



Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. (For an explicit description of "it", see the whole chapter of Rev. 21)



Mat 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

Mat 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:



A crown of incorruptibility in Heaven is about as useful as a crown of asphalt on earth-who wants to wear pavement?



Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.



Paul, witnessing the races and games, caught the vision of wreath-crowned victors flush with the reward of earnest endeavor. He also saw the persistent, faithful Christian at the end of his hard-won race wearing the symbolic stephanos of rejoicing (1Th_2:19 the King James Version), of righteousness (2Ti_4:8), of glory (1Pe_5:4), of life (Jam_1:12; Rev_2:10). Paul's fellow Christians were his joy and stephanos (Phi_4:1), “of which Paul might justly make his boast”.



There is no fifth crown for believers in scripture. You have named the four. I respectfully disagree with your father.
2008-01-14 23:04:06 UTC
Nice guess guys but the fifth one is the "incorruptible crown"



I Corinthians 9: 25 -- And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
Lenny C
2008-01-15 21:08:17 UTC
1 Corinthians 9:25



Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.



The Incorruptible Crown
manddkeller
2008-01-14 23:03:19 UTC
Crown of Thorns (Matthew 27:29; Mark 15:17; John 19:2) This is the question; what does it mean to you?
2008-01-15 03:13:08 UTC
Leviticus 21:12

Neither shall he go out of the sanctuary, nor profane the sanctuary of his God; for the crown of the anointing oil of his God is upon him: I am the LORD.



Proverbs 4:9

She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.



Proverbs 14:24

The crown of the wise is their riches: but the foolishness of fools is folly.



Proverbs 16:31

The hoary head is a crown of glory, if it be found in the way of righteousness.



Proverbs 17:6

Children's children are the crown of old men; and the glory of children are their fathers.



Isaiah 28:5

In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,



Isaiah 62:3

Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.



John 19:5

Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!



1 Thessalonians 2:19

For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?



2 Timothy 4:8

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.



James 1:12

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.



1 Peter 5:4

And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.



Revelation 2:10

Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
2008-01-15 00:11:10 UTC
I would say 1 Cor. 9:25....



You can check biblegateway.com and do a search for "crown."



As far as what they mean to me....it's a way the Lord honors the saints and we cast them at his feet because we know we don't deserve them.



Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying:

“ You are worthy, O Lord,

To receive glory and honor and power;

For You created all things,

And by Your will they exist and were created.” Rev, 4:9-11



I'd like to add more but I get to go to work...Good question Simon Peter! I must do research!
2008-01-15 22:48:41 UTC
Maybe all the crowns mean the same thing. Maybe they are not different crowns but just different analogies for the same reward. God bless you.
hearingtheword
2008-01-15 01:45:31 UTC
i would, humbly, answer your question, though i seek not titles of man. It would really be a question to you, brother, if you can see and hear how the Word of Truth, or more sure Word

of God in what i believe is the King James Version.

Isaiah 28:10

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:



The King of Kings and Lord of Lords will speak to you through His Words.



Isaiah 55:11

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.



The answer to the crowns is the one that you would have Him to make for you. You are in the Word. I seek no crowns, just an utterance upon judgment of "Job well done thy good and faithful servant". At that point i would set my crown, whatever it may be like unto, down at Jesus feet, humbly. Though at this point i feel as if i might be dressed in white under the alter. A good sister of the LORD once asked whom Hebrews was written to, yes thirteen chapters, makes one learned all of the tribes, that would be written to you as well. To really hear though line upon line, you will hear the echos into commands.
sprcpt
2008-01-14 22:53:41 UTC
Crown of Creation - Jefferson Airplane
2008-01-14 22:53:56 UTC
Royal?


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