Question:
If you go back to the Moses story, God can kill only first born children in Egypt, so why not just the people in the Noah story?
j-jj
2014-03-26 15:59:34 UTC
Also, I have seen this argument here a lot... "God gave the people plenty of time to repent, but they wouldn't...Noah was warning them for years."

That's a nice thought, except for the fact that the world's population wasn't concentrated in one geographical area 4,000 years ago. There were already 10's of millions of people spread out over every continent. So how did Noah warn them all?
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?
2014-03-26 16:01:09 UTC
Same way he kept the Kangaroos from Australian warm and the Polar Bears cold on the ark.



Magic!!!



Oh, you don't believe in magic? Well, then you must be going to hell like me.
Pirate AM™
2014-03-26 16:24:54 UTC
While I understand what you are trying to say, you need to realize that in the Moses story, God chooses to kill the firstborn of the Egyptians as the last plague after "hardening Pharaoh's heart" after each of the preceding 9 plagues. Evidently, God still remembers repenting after destroying all life on the world except that which was on the ark and is limiting wrath. However, arguably killing the innocent firstborn is just as evil as wiping out all life on the planet.



There is no indication in scripture that the flood was "regional" and it is fairly clear that the flood wiped out all life (even if it is completely wrong by claiming that a dove could possibly return with an olive branch relatively soon after nearly a year of world wide flood conditions).
2014-03-26 16:46:09 UTC
Lots of specially trained smart people have looked hard for evidence of a world wide flood. They found two. Neither of them was Noah's flood of 2349 BC. Nevertheless, people all over the world recorded a flood that year and they all agreed on all the details. You might be surprised to learn what actually happened. This is long, but it's all there: http://saturniancosmology.org/



If you don't care to read the whole book, here is the footnote. Scroll down to "Day of the dead": http://saturniancosmology.org/jup.php
JoyaSee
2014-03-26 16:30:03 UTC
If you had received the warning, would you have listened?



I wonder if I would have.



It's possible that God did warn everyone on earth that the flood was coming, and Noah is the only one who listened, but most likely He told the only one He knew would listen. Interestingly, Methuselah the long-lived man in history has a name that means, "when he dies it shall be sent" God allowed him to live 969 years on the earth - 969 of warning that the flood was coming, with the last 50 to 75 years of those being Noah specifically preaching that it was coming and preparing the Ark.



"We know from the Bible that around 2500 BC (4,500 years ago) the worldwide Flood reduced the world population to eight people. But if we assume that the population doubles every 150 years, we see, again, that starting with only Noah and his family in 2500 BC, 4,500 years is more than enough time for the present population to reach 6.5 billion



(Evolutionary theory maintains) that humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. If we did assume that humans have been around for 50,000 years and if we were to use the calculations above, there would have been 332 doublings, and the world’s population would be a staggering figure—a one followed by 100 zeros; that is



10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

000,000,000.



This figure is truly unimaginable, for it is billons of times greater than the number of atoms that are in the entire universe! Such a calculation makes nonsense of the claim that humans have been on earth for tens of thousands of years.



Simple, conservative arithmetic reveals clear mathematical logic for a young age of the earth. From two people, created around 6,000 years ago, and then the eight people, preserved on the Ark about 4,500 years ago, the world’s population could have grown to the extent we now see it—over 6.5 billion.



With such a population clearly possible (and probable) in just a few thousand years, we could actually ask the question, “If humans were around millions of years ago, why is the population so small?” This is a question that evolution supporters must answer."
?
2014-03-26 16:46:29 UTC
if you read the story of Noah, you would know that God looked for anyone that was worth saving, and found only Noah and Co. worthy of saving. there was no warning or chance for redemption. the people had chosen their paths.



as for the "fact" that the world's population wasn't concentrated in one geographical area 4,000 years ago, ever heard of pangaea? it was broken up by a massive change in the world, terraformed by the overflow of water...
?
2014-03-26 16:08:55 UTC
Moses was God's prophet here on earth, Moses had cursed the Pharaoh by saying to him what you intend to do to my people your your people will suffer. Pharaoh intended to kill the first born of the Hebrews in which God sent the angel of death to kill the first born of Egypt. Pharaoh was responsible for what happened to Egypt including the death of his own son.

As for the Noah story that was God's direct intervention the people were wicked to an extent that their own children would be corrupted and made wicked like their parents. The only reason why Noah and his family were spared by God because to God they were righteous. So God sent the great flood to kill off animals, people, infants, children only Noah and his family and the animals which he taken with him were spared. Of course the great flood was more like a regional flood instead of a world wide flood.



Who said this happened 4,000 years ago?
2014-03-26 16:24:41 UTC
It doesn't say that at all.



Even the Israelites (God's Chosen) give their first-born males !!!!



Numbers 3:12

"I have taken the Levites from among the Israelites in place of the first male offspring of every Israelite woman. The Levites are mine,



1) Pharaoh was responsible for the death of the first-born

2) Noah needn't have personally warned even most of them.

Noah was 600 years old when the waters started. -- I know exactly what you are about to say but listen : If you are going to argue from the story USE THE STORY.



And the Bible gives many clues that your assumption is wrong too.



For example, Enoch took great pains to select the proper name for his son. METHUSELAH.

METHU means "Death or one dying."

SELAH means "It shall come....."



The name of this baby boy was: "When He dies, it shall come."

God was saying to Enoch and to the entire world: Do you see that baby? This world will last only as long as he lives and no longer. Because when he dies, it will come. Now they didn't know what was coming, but eventually they were told that a flood was coming. And God wanted them to get ready. Noah's flood did not strike this world without warning because way back, 969 years before, they were given the warning that lasted the whole time. God sent the warning 969 years ahead of time!











http://books.google.com/books?id=7ePxtSa1EE4C&pg=PA143&dq=methuselah+days+lengthened+mercy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=CWEzU_uiKYa9qQHNwIGQBw&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=methuselah%20days%20lengthened%20mercy&f=false
Roger
2014-03-26 16:10:43 UTC
No warning required....God chooses who will believe. If God only had "elected" Noah and his family, NONE of the others would believe no matter what kind of a warning they got. At that point in history God determined that only Noah/family would receive His mercy and "know" Him. The rest could not care about God.
?
2014-03-26 16:02:33 UTC
He wanted to reform the Earth and completely change it.


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