Question:
How did anything come into existence to make atoms and everything else?
terminator
2009-09-29 23:13:48 UTC
I find it ridicules and stupid, that we people, who claim to be the most intelligent, say ourselves and life and the universe were created by atoms, passing matter in space and what not. Science says "Something has to come from something" so how did the atoms and all the planets and matter itself, light, everything, come into existence. Something had to create it. I see our scientists and everyone else who says, "I know this world was created by atoms and mutations", as looking at one pebble in a whole they claim is the end just because they cannot break into it, and thus cannot see the mound of pebbles underneath. I'd be interested to see everyone else's answers. Enjoy your day guys.
25 answers:
Truth Stands out
2009-09-30 01:14:04 UTC
Right but many'll do anything 2 omit God from the equation. Only 1 God can occupy infinity (time doesnt exist there) & that God is the God of Israel (no Allah/other gods) - only place u can rightly claim u dont need a cause 4 ur existence. Its only fully provable b/c Jesus is 1 & only true Son of God & He wasnt speaking out of 2 let alone 1000s of the sides of His mouth (no confusion).



1. The crux of the problem is many (having limited knowledge) try 2 know what God did by imposing human limitations 4 understanding things 2 God's abilities. The BB/Ev/Abiogenesis r theories 4 a billions of yrs old cold case - cant b proved by scientific method - we didnt see it take place = speculation - many r confused btwn a true fact & speculation especially when added upon a fact(s)).



2. Many scientific finds r true but it doesnt mean "all" claims r true (many dont take time & energy 2 carefully think thru things b4 making a claim). Many dont properly take in2 account all it takes 2 create a universe/life (they tend 2 focus on things "seeming" 2 support what they want 2 &/or u 2 believe).



3. Theres no way 2 prove the BB is the cause of the universe. Whether the universe is expanding or not we cant prove the driving force of the propulsion is due 2 force(s) from outside of the universe/the BB/other forces or if acceleration is due 2 the universe collapsing/being sucked outward (we cant get outside of it - quantum mech particle out of nothing claims cant b proved w/o erasing the universe/u 2 do a "clean" experiment). & we cant check red shift calculations.



4. The "1rst" cause of everything (no matter what scientists claim) must b an uncaused cause. 4 singularity 2 pop in2 existence @ 1 small point with the colossal energy needed 2 produce a universe is 1 tall order (It would take @ least a near infinite force [like gravity] 2 cause & keep enough energy 2 go from 0 2 billions of degrees kelvin within it if it was even possible). Even the so-called perpetual regression type theories double-talk (like the 1800s perpetual motion scams) ignore the fact that there had 2 b a 1rst cause no matter how many universes/dimensions 1 proposes existed prior 2 our universe. The process (work) of creating singularity/the universe uses energy & unusable energy like gamma/x-ray radiation escapes thus perpetual universe regression isnt possible.



5. Ignoring #4, even if a singularity "blob" was present prior 2 the BB we'd hv problems. Singularity can only hv 1 property (whatever "it" is) or it isnt in the state of singularity. This supposed blob could only b created thru full annihilation of all atomic structures of any matter coming near it (cant overcome inertia law). Since this blob only has 1 property it can't react 2 itself, heat, pressure or other particles in the vicinity (no matter how unstable their atomic properties r b/c of the presence of the super immense gravitational field/annihilation in2 a single property blob).



6. The blob cant reach a "critical mass" threshold b/c of the state of its existence. B/c the force of gravity would b billions of trillions of magnitudes greater than @ the center of a Super Nova, it couldnt act/react like a Super Nova.



7. 4 the singularity blob 2 expand/explode there must b some kind of "super" detonator present 2 cause an expansion/explosion reaction. The immensity of the gravitational force necessary 2 cause singularity 2 form & retain that state (2 gather & contain enough singularity "stuff" 2 make our universe), would cause another problem. That is, It would also prevent anything having the capability 2 serve as a detonator from lasting long enough 2 get near the blob 2 cause a reaction (let alone the tremendous forces necessary 4 the kind of colossal reaction needed 2 commence a universe).



8. Even if some type of detonator could get near the blob w/o being torn apart & annihilated 1rst, 2 split/scatter/expand the singularity blob would require it 2 penetrate 2 the center of the blob b4 causing a reaction even within the detonator/explosive (most likely impossible b/c of the gravitational force). Even if such an immense explosion could take place in the vicinity of the blob it would do little more than slightly move or vibrate the blob, which would more than likely remain fully intact (@ most it might rip off a very minute surface area which would immediately b pulled back 2 the blob along with all explosion particles). Even if something could last long enough 2 cause an explosion anywhere near the blob, the reaction would b akin 2 lighting a match as u put it in water.



9. The necessary gravitation field has 2 b so great that light cant escape. This means that even if the blob somehow expanded I doubt very much it could get beyond the threshold/event horizon where it could reach the necessary escape velocity/distance needed 2 outlast the force of gravity & remain @ that expansion level long enough 2 allow formation of atoms. B/c the center of gravity would still b @ the blob center point not @ the outside "surface" the vector angle of force would b greatest towards the original center. This vector force would cause any attempt 2 form atoms 2 be interrupted b/c it would exert such a tremendous force in 1 direction that it would pull atoms apart, back 2wards the center of gravity.



10. Setting aside par 4-9 - even if the proposed cooling process reached a point where quarks & anti-quarks could supposedly form there would hv 2 b zillions forming in some uniform distribution pattern @ near the same instant over a huge area. @ the sub-atomic level the same conditions would hv 2 exist thru out the entire area @ nearly the same instant or the atomic formation process would most likely fail. If only a few 2 a few million atoms formed they would most likely disintegrate in a very short period of time.



11. Contrary 2 popular belief atoms hv 2 b "forged" 2gether which can only take place by the 4 basic forces acting from "outside" its atomic structure while controlling & overcoming the forces that must b present & properly coordinated 2 keep the atomic structure intact (strong force vs weak force, etc.) while in the presence of the tremendous vector force toward the center of gravity acting against this formation process. 4 enough atoms 2 hv a chance of surviving, it would require formation of zillions of atoms 2 go thru the same process @ nearly the same instant (4 1 thing - 2 hv a chance of producing anywhere near enough of an opposing force like gravity [but any new center of gravity, while gathering atoms would also increase its attraction back in2 the immense force from the original center of gravity] 2 cancel out @ least most of the vector force of the original center of gravity - impossible).



The chances r so great against even 1 atom forming without an incredibly Intelligent Being, possessing a much greater area than the universe & having possession & control over many more times the energy needed 2 create a universe, creating it - u'd hv a better chance of having a million monkeys creating the US Constitution by randomly pressing keys on a million typewriters, which we know would b impossible (even if they did they wouldnt know what it was or what 2 do with it). 4 each event in the universe the laws of probability apply, those of which r dependent on other events only compounds/multiplies the odds against it taking place without God causing it.



The amount of dark matter in the universe can never b fully known as we would hv 2 visit all ends of the universe.



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EAH
2009-09-29 23:22:47 UTC
Atoms was a theory put out in ancient Greece. When Rutherford split the atom, the 3 part atom came into existence some hundred years ago. Today there are 150 sub atomic particles all existing as a wave like light or having mass.



In today's news a church fell down and killed 50 believers in Nepal, God must have done it.
Luke Obsidia
2009-09-29 23:32:06 UTC
Atoms are energy. Energy exists in many forms through various vibrational frequencies, and atoms are just one of those frequencies.



This is where Einstein comes in with E=MC2. This basically breaks down the transformation of mass into pure energy.



This energy can never be created nor destroyed. There is always the same amount in the universe that we perceive. This is called the "Conservation of mass and energy."



And so science takes the stance that the energy which makes up all mass we observe simply always existed. No creation necessary.



Learning is fun. Try learning some quantum physics. Thank you.
2009-09-29 23:23:29 UTC
okay, take all the things that manifest in our universe, then think of everything that ISNT that stuff



like take all the colors that exist for example, and try to think of a new one



try to think of the opposite of physics



you can't, same reason why you can't conceptualize anything "before" (and fyi, since time is also a construct of our universe, "before" is a really pointless idea) the big bang, or any configuration that may have existed beforehand if it were possible



but what we do know, is that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed in this scenario, and we have evidence of matter and energy existing, yet no evidence for a god, or evidence of -anything- coming from said god. Then apply Occams Razor, and you have the answer
edwah zephaniah
2009-09-29 23:35:13 UTC
The Spirit of God says in 1 Timothy 6: 20-21, kjv



We understand that through faith the world's were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen, are not made of things which do appear.



The world was created by the faith of God.



And with most people and many are christians have no idea of what that means.



Will the unbelief of some make the faith of God without any effect? Romans 3: 3 kjv



Can anyone show his faithfulness, without faith?



sincerely, edwah z j
Penny Lane
2009-09-29 23:31:04 UTC
You can only ever answer this question with another question (ie: then where did God come from), which is no rebuttal at all.



Which basically means, no one can prove the beginning of anything. We cant prove where God came from, and we cant prove where atoms and other elements come from. That's where we will always be at an impasse.
2009-09-30 00:16:42 UTC
Chaz' nice one.

The building blocks' of life really comes down to cells, and all cells multiply mutate and expand' but what intelligent blue print [order] makes this phenomenon come into being.

What makes the simple human sperm [like fish] wriggle up to connect to the ovary,

Scientist give us' explanation... dust matter, atoms nuclear and all that goes with it to create the big bang, how did not come into its own' from nothing ?
Bob B
2009-09-29 23:18:16 UTC
There is no scientific law that says "something has to come from something". It only says that the amount of matter and energy in the universe must be a constant. As the universe is all that has ever existed, and all that ever will exist, what is the problem?



There was no "before" the universe when nothing existed. Time is finite, and only 13.7 billion years of time has elapsed so far.



Study some physics before you make judgements on it.
2016-03-03 10:27:19 UTC
Its not about schools of thought, nor is it about science. You cannot prove god exists because you can provide no evidence, and you cannot construct a logically sound argument for one to exist. An illogical concept with no evidence should not just be assumed to be true because some people who really really want it to be say they know it is because they feel it.
Cindi
2009-09-29 23:39:18 UTC
I find it ridiculous that most people are really just afraid of submitting themselves to a higher being than human. Afraid they will have to answer to someone other than themselves. Afraid to admit that God may just be telling us the truth. Afraid God may just be more Intelligent than them. If they are so intelligent, then why haven't they gotten an answer to the why, what, where, who, and when. Thousand of years searching, still no answer. It's right in front of them. They just don't want to believe it. Or is it too simple to believe in God. Ohh, if it's not a complex situation, then they aren't really intelligent or they. Yet they want to always throw out the possibility of it really being simple. God.
Steve
2009-09-29 23:25:38 UTC
No one is refuting your argument ...



Everybody's replies are just saying , "Oh yeah?! Well, then, where did God come from?"



And the answer to that is is, God came from No where... He's always existed.



We basically come down to two ideas, and only two:

Either matter always existed and everything formed from matter,

Or God always existed and everything formed from God.



So you choose, but there's only two choices out there, and when you boil it down, neither one is more "scientific" than the other.



From my perspective, It takes a lot less faith and it's a lot more encouraging to believe in eternal God than in eternal matter.
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2009-09-29 23:24:33 UTC
What your asking is something that we as a human race may never know. The big bang theory is about the best we can come up with right now until scientists find more evidence to show otherwise.
2009-09-29 23:20:05 UTC
I wonder, why do you assume that matter and energy were created? I do not say that they weren't but can you prove that matter and energy have a beginning?



Certainly we do not know all, but that is no reason to assume that we are not on the right track.
Robert Abuse
2009-09-29 23:23:47 UTC
Try to find out Chaz, just like the wonderful men and women of science that are dedicating their life`s work to that same question right now.

Through advances in human knowledge we are getting closer every second.



We may have known already if it had not have been for the Church holding back our advancement.
2017-02-20 18:01:51 UTC
1
2009-09-29 23:21:22 UTC
The most intelligent on this planet and in the known universe.Of course we are the most intelligent you idiot(no pun intended)no other animal on this planet other than the monkey is even self aware.I'm not even going to read the rest of your question you need to learn about your home planet let alone the entire universe.
Kit-Kat Jesus
2009-09-29 23:22:35 UTC
The mind exists.

The universe is just a by-product.
Logan W
2009-09-29 23:17:46 UTC
How did God come into in existence? If your answer is he always existed, then why can't our answer be matter always existed?
Professor Coldheart!
2009-09-29 23:17:33 UTC
All together, now -





Oyyyyy Veeeiiiiiiii!



Are being for serious? As my little niece would say.
2009-09-29 23:20:13 UTC
the god of the gaps argument again?.........this is a logical fallacy, and is getting rather stale - it's only been posted 536225 times today.......
2009-09-29 23:19:23 UTC
then how did god come into existence?
NONAME
2009-09-29 23:19:24 UTC
omgggggggg i was there when the world came to be and there was no being that created it
2009-09-29 23:41:56 UTC
I have a question for you. Which god created your god and which god created that god that created your god?
Hi, my name is Poopy McShittles
2009-09-29 23:17:36 UTC
Atheists are mentally ill
theone78
2009-09-29 23:17:23 UTC
God has all your answers !! Blessings --


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