Two part question. Part one: Are drunks, Atheists, and the Faithful all essentially the same?

Question

Humor me for a moment. Think of religion and atheism in terms of drinking. Most are fine with a little, but a few tend to go overboard. As long as you keep it in check, everything's fine. Every once in a while you've got that idiot who's had too much. The "alcohol" has impared their judgment so he thinks he knows what's best and has an opinion on everything and everyone.

There are some of us here who are sipping our beer and having fun. Some are quite drunk on God or or the absence thereof and so they have lost their inhibitions.

The second part is multiple choice; are you
A) sitting there having fun watching the drunks make fools of themselves,
B) Having a few beers and enjoying the band or
C) the bar has cut you off, you've pissed off a bunch of bikers at the bar who want to take you outside and make road pizza with your face?

Answer 1

Oh that's a definite C. I'm actually arguing with them right now whether you can make a pizza quattro stagioni out of a dirty hippie's face, or whether that would make it a prosciutto e fungi.

Answer 2

Sort of, I put the atheists as the sober ones on your scale and all manner of religious foolishness as degrees of intoxication, from the two-beer harmless united church tree hugger to the full-blown dangerous drunkenness of fundamentalists of any stripe. Most delusions are harmless - I look in the mirror and see a handsome young man - I know I'm not, but this hurts no-one and makes me happy, so why would someone want to interfere with my happiness by pointing out that I'm a fool? Private religious beliefs that aren't crammed down my throat or backed up with a satchel bomb are very much in the same category - daydreams pleasing to the dreamer which should be no concern of mine.



I don't have an answer to the multiple choice - beliefs aren't reasoned into anyone so I've given up trying to reason them out.

Answer 3

I disagree.



While alcohol is on a scale of zero to poisoning, Atheism to Theism is on a scale of -100% to 100%.



Taking that scale into account, those that hover at the 0% mark are the Agnostics - God may possibly exist, but I just don't know. Some of them lean towards Atheism (the plus scale) and some of them lean towards Deism (the minus scale)



The minus, because Evidence and Proof is a negative factor in the position of the faithful, and positive in those who choose truth over faith.



Hardcore on either side is particularly ugly. Those who are +100% question their very existence, because Truth with a capital T is impossible to prove beyond a shadow of doubt, because everything we perceive with our senses is "second hand" information to our minds - and our minds may not exist either... Those who are -100% are just completely stupid, because they take their entire existence on faith and never question the authority of a book that tells stories. Never question the priests who use that book as an icon of authority. Never look at any evidence with an objective mind, always skew and taint what they see and hear and sense otherwise with the dogma of their religion.



Your multiple choice isn't very good...

a) No I don't find stupidity amusing. I am here to see if I can make just ONE person think for themself. I still have hope that Humanity can shed it's childish dogma

b) That would be "lurking" and wouldn't lurkers never post a answer or question?

c) I rather see a bar brawl between two bikie gangs. One gang use weapons in a cross shape, and a big thick book with gold writing. The other bikie gang uses rare, incurable diseases, pain, pictures of dying children in Ethiopia, Red Mercury nuclear bombs and nanotechnology-created robots as weapons against the other side...



The fight continues.

Answer 4

First of all, there certainly are some things that drunks, atheists and the faithful have in common. For openers, they're all human beings. What's also true is that they all have free will...or, at the very least, that's the way I think it is...so they all make choices about their lives, and they are responsible for the choices they make. What's also true is that for each of us, and the people in those groups you mentioned, cannot completely predict the repercussions of their actions, but actions do have consequences. As for the second part of your question, put me down for B. Have a nice day!

Answer 5

Lots of times, I'm in position A, but for some reason I keep jumping into the fights and trying to get them (the belligerent drunks on both sides of the bar) to listen to reason.



We all have stupid compulsions. Sad to say, but that is one of mine.

Answer 6

i think of the bible passage is clean on what it ability. If there is extra context that explains the text textile then i could deliver that up. Its basically that some verses are clean and want no further context to comprehend. Like announcing thou shall not scouse borrow. If there is theft it somewhat is okay then specific i could desire to comprehend in what context one is undesirable and the different stable. i think of the previous testomony ability whilst it says do not scouse borrow. that is announcing do not take from others without gods permission. in case you have his permission then stealing is okay.

Answer 7

"you've pissed off a bunch of bikers at the bar who want to take you outside and make road pizza with your face?"



True, but I'm pretty sure I can take them.

Answer 8

I find this question very lucid and though provoking.



However at this particular moment I am much too inebriated to effectively render a coherent answer..

Answer 9

I'm loaded but no one would ever know. I'm the type that just sits at his table unnoticed with a weird smile on his face.

Answer 10

Nice analogy! And I'm definitely A.

Answer 11

I kinda of like your analogy.

As for the second part, definitely B.

Answer 12

At first B but depending on the state it can turn into C.

Answer 13

I try not to get too drunk, but I admit I get tipsy every once in a while. B.

Answer 14

That is a hilariously apt analogy.

Answer 15

Feel no shame for what you are, feel no shame for what you are, feel no shame for what you are, feel no shame for what you are.... Fall in light!



Stand absolved behind your electric chair,... dancing!



PS. My sweetheart was a drunk!

Answer 16

yes.. they are all going to hell