Question:
are there any accounts of UFO or ghosts in the bible?
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2007-10-28 16:12:00 UTC
if so what chapter i want proof
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2007-10-28 16:40:40 UTC
The Bible deals with both questions. I will give short answers, then the long ones.



UFO's are aliens because:



As concerning there being other beings on other planets, they would be under the subjection of Adam's sin. Because the Bible say's:



Rom 8:19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.



How could God, cause other beings who never knew Adam and the earth, to fall in sin just because Adam fell into it. You either have to denounce Rom 8:19-22 or believe God is unjust, to believe in alien life. Therefore, there is no one out in space to experience the fall of sin, except natural elements. The stars are even dying because of Adam's sin. But stars are not living beings, they are just material. Nevertheless, all creation is now in bondage to sin and death because of Adam's sin.



Another reason this can't be true is that Adam had been given authority over all creation. How could God give Adam authority over other beings from another planet? He wouldn't, therefore there are no other beings.



Another point would be; if there were other races of people on other planets, God would want them to know that Jesus came to earth to die for everyone, and that the gospel would need to be preached to them. Yet the Bible says preach to all the earth, not to all the planets. Again, there is no one out there, except angels and demons.



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Ghosts are demons pretending to be dead people.



Now for the detailed Biblical answers:



UFO's in the Bible:



http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/ufo.html



There many accounts of UFO's (unidentified flying objects) and aliens. I once believed in them myself. In fact, my wife has also seen a UFO floating above the building next to her apartment complex, in the foreign country she is from. It was hovering above it by 50 feet or so. She was a couple blocks away when she saw it. Many other people had seen it as well, and it made the local newspaper. One man was at the entryway of a building when a beam of light came upon him. I believe my wife, but I do not believe these to be aliens.



Some UFO's could be experimental government aircraft. Some could be regular aircraft or natural phenomena. But not in many cases, like my wife's story. I believe my wife saw a demonic manifestation or a real ship being flown by demons.



Where do I get this outlandish idea? Lets read from the Bible:



Gen 6: MKJV

1 And it happened, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and when daughters were born to them,

2 the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were good. And they took wives for themselves from all whom they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, in his erring; he is flesh. Yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days. And also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore to them, they were mighty men who existed of old, men of renown.



The sons of God mentioned here are demons, or fallen angels. There is a big debate whether this is true. But this is solved in other scripture:



Job 1:6: Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.



In the NIV it calls the "sons of God": 'angels'. Here in the King James they are the "sons of God". The Nephilim are mighty men or giants. These are hybrids of human seed made by fallen angels.



http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/nephilim.html



"The Hebrew word for giants (nephilum) literally means the fallen-down-ones because these tall celestial beings fell from the sky... They were known as the Rephaim [Hebrew for 'phantoms'], Emim, Anakim, Horim, Avim, and Zamzummim. Some scholars speculate that this tradition of giants born from the union of gods and humans formed the basis for the demigod of Greek mythology."

- Raymond E. Fowler, The Watchers



To see a study on these verses:



Hermeneutical Look at Genesis 6:1-8



Today if you study UFO's and aliens, you will hear stories of women being impregnated by the aliens, and the fetuses are taken from them. Others tell stories that the aliens have children that they are raising. These accounts are similar to the account in Gen 6. Fallen angels are taking the seed of men, manipulating it and impregnating women. The result is a hybrid of humans. These beings will be of some "superior" quality. Whether it be in size or intellect or both. In Genesis it is said "They were the heroes of old, men of renown.".



I believe that these spawned beings were the origins of many deities from the pagan religions. This was the birth of mythology. They were superior and they made humans worship them. We can read many times in the Bible about giants on the earth. These giants were also enemies of Israel, the people of God.



I had a friend, who was involved in a cult. They had a huge sail ship, and sailed the oceans looking for the place that aliens would land. They thought the aliens would land on some island and they wanted to meet them. They studied Hebrew and these very verses I have shown you, believing the opposite of what I propose here. They think they were not demons or angels but aliens.



I do have some evidence I will share with you. There is a christian organization that studies UFO and alien abductions. They have a web page linking to actual UFO and alien encounters with some people who are christians and/or people who have stopped alien encounters by the use of the name of Jesus. If you wish to take a look go to the following web site:



Click here to see testimonies of alien/demon encounters



You can find their homepage at the bottom of this page. There are some teachings on some christian web sites that discuss UFO's which I think are completely untrue. I will discuss these and use Biblical understanding to show these errors.



Some christians believe that there are actual aliens on other planets who are working with satan. Some believe that there were beings on the earth before Adam was created. They use what is called the gap theory. They believe there is a gap of time in Genesis chapter one where it says:



Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.



They say that in verse 2 that there is a destruction of the earth. Some people believe that Lucifer ruled the first earth (verse 1) with dinosaurs. Some also believe that there were people there (before Adam). They use the following scriptures to believe this:



Jer 4:23 I looked at the earth, and it was formless and empty; and at the heavens, and their light was gone. 24 I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. 25 I looked, and there were no people; every bird in the sky had flown away. 26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert; all its towns lay in ruins before the LORD, before his fierce anger.



I will now show that these interpretations are wrong. They fail to look at verse 27:



JER 4:27 This is what the LORD says: "The whole land will be ruined, though I will not destroy it completely."



They believe that Jer 4:23 and Gen 1:2, mean complete destruction. But, verse 27 says that not all will be destroyed. Verse 27 is connected to 23, so what is this saying? Jer 4:23-27 is not describing what happened between Gen 1:1-3, but what happened from the flood of Noah. The gap theory would tell us there was a complete destruction of the 1st creation, but the verses they use say there was not a complete destruction. So what do those verses in Jeremiah point to?



Noah's flood was disastrous, but it didn't destroy everything. The fish survived and so on. The formless and empty in verse Gen 1:2 are just that, formless and empty time and space. Before there was any creation it was formless and empty. Those two verses are not connected to mean the same. There was no other race of people. The Bible says Adam was the 1st man.



1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" ...



As concerning there being other beings on other planets, they would be under the subjection of Adam's sin. Because the Bible say's:



Rom 8:19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.



How could God, cause other beings who never knew Adam and the earth, to fall in sin just because Adam fell into it. You either have to denounce Rom 8:19-22 or believe God is unjust, to believe in alien life. Therefore, there is no one out in space to experience the fall of sin, except natural elements. The stars are even dying because of Adam's sin. But stars are not living beings, they are just material. Nevertheless, all creation is now in bondage to sin and death because of Adam's sin.



Another reason this can't be true is that Adam had been given authority over all creation. How could God give Adam authority over other beings from another planet? He wouldn't, therefore there are no other beings.



Another point would be; if there were other races of people on other planets, God would want them to know that Jesus came to earth to die for everyone, and that the gospel would need to be preached to them. Yet the Bible says preach to all the earth, not to all the planets. Again, there is no one out there, except angels and demons.



And lastly, to finish off the gap theory as error, we can determine satan did not fall until after...



Gen 1:31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



Would God call satan's fall good? No. Therefore, satan fell after Gen 1:31, which means satan did not destroy any 1st creation. Would the destruction of creation be good? There is no gap theory.



I want to return to the discussion of these supposed aliens. These entities have at least 2 parts; flesh and spirit. I am trying through scripture and scriptural principles to bring understanding to the nature of the 2 parts. As well as, use the same technique to disprove the wrong teachings.



One major theory is that demons are different than fallen angels. There are different theories as to what the demons are. The reason people think they are different, is that demons seem drawn to possess creatures, while fallen angels do not. This is inconclusive, and cannot be true if satan will possess the anti-christ. The idea is all speculation, based upon observance of demonic possession in the Bible.



Some say that the demons and/or the aliens are spirits of those people who existed before Adam, when Lucifer supposedly ruled the world. Some say the spirits from that time are possessing fleshly bodies to fly these ships. As I describe in the GHOST section ( Click here ), God causes the dead to go to heaven or hell, they do not stray upon the earth. Therefore that can't be true.



Some claim that these demons or aliens are the spirits of the Nephilim; the giants or hybrids of humanity. Now this takes a bit more scrutiny. First, to make such a doctrine on demons when the Bible is quiet about it, is a mistake. The next thing to think about, is: were these beings were capable of dying? If these were beings that lived and died, then they also must go to a designated resting place, separated from the living. If however, as some believe, that these beings were just bodies possessed by fallen angels, then we have another matter.



The following scripture uses similar Hebrew words as the Gen 6 account:



Isa 26: NKJV

13 O LORD our God, masters besides You Have had dominion over us; But by You only we make mention of Your name. 14 They are dead, they will not live; They are deceased, they will not rise. Therefore You have punished and destroyed them, And made all their memory to perish.



http://www.mt.net/~watcher/judgment.html



The word rapha is a title given to some of the demonic spirits, the hybrid nephilim, that were chained during the flood of Noah. This word has been misleadingly translated "departed spirits" in most Bibles. Rapha occurs nowhere in scripture except in reference to certain rebel angels responsible for creating "nephilim", hybrid fleshy creations genetically engineered from the daughters of Adam [Genesis 6] to house, or "be possessed by" the rebel angels who forsake their God-given spiritual forms. These rapha will eventually be loosed from their bonds and judged.



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People are claiming that this proves that the spirits of these Nephilim are now walking around as ghosts and are not fallen angels. This verse say's no such thing. In fact, it furthers my stance that these beings were empty of souls. In other words, they were flesh and spirit only (dualistic). Man and God are triune ( Click here ). They were just flesh robots possessed by fallen angels. As such, there are no souls to put in hell, nor a soul to resurrect. The fallen angel then goes back to it's state before it possessed the flesh bot.



If this were the case, then demons are just fallen angels, not a second kind of evil spirits. Just a kind of ranking that possessed the bodies of these giants or Nephilim. So they would all be fallen angels, which are waiting for judgment.



Some would say that these are some other spirit being besides fallen angels possessing superior human flesh, I would like to know the origin of such a spirit from the Bible.



We can only guess what exactly the Nephilim were. But there are only a couple of options. Either they were just super humans with DNA that was tampered with by fallen angels, who were in complete subjection to the fallen angels (willing servants) or they were just empty bodies possessed by the fallen angels themselves.



If they were super humans that were evil, then they may indeed be a different kind of being (a corrupted form of man). But a living being they were, and if they died, then they were subject to the same laws of death that we are subject to. (The anti-christ and the false prophet are both thrown into the Lake of Fire.) This means they could not be roaming around as the demons on the earth disembodied, ready to possess another body. They would be put in hell, like other dead men (if they did not follow God). Or imprisoned elsewhere (as some fallen angels are). If they were fallen angels possessing these superior bodies, then yes they could be wandering around today on the earth as demons, because originally they were fallen angels, taking possession of these bodies.



I dare to throw in another possibility of why demons seem to possess creatures and fallen angels seem not to.



What I suggest is this: that when fallen angels get into warfare with holy angels and lose battle; the fallen angel becomes wounded to some unhealable state, becoming an eternally wounded spirit. Angels on the other hand if are wounded can go to God for healing. Angels are eternal beings, they do not die, and thus are not taken to the places of the dead. Although some have been reserved in judgment. This is believed because they committed certain sins, most likely the very fornication with women which we are talking about. When a fallen angel comes to such a state he cannot be healed because he is separated from God. He then exists in some tormented form which seeks wholeness with more compulsion than an undefeated fallen angel. Driven to this state, they seek their 'wholeness' and 'healing' by possessing a living creature. At such a state they begged Jesus to not be sent to the abyss before their time. (See the parable below.) I think that when all fallen angels are sent into the Lake of Fire at the time of Judgment they all will be put into such a state eternal hurt. This may even take place when they are finally kicked out of heaven.



Luke 8: MKJV

27 And He going out onto land, He met a certain man out of the city, who had had demons a long time, and put on no clothes, nor stayed in a house, but among the tombs.

28 And seeing Jesus, he cried out and fell down before Him and said with a loud voice, What is to me and to You, Jesus, Son of God the Most High? I beseech You, Do not torment me!

29 (For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had seized him. And he had been kept bound in chains and in fetters, and he broke the bands and was driven into the deserted places by the demons.)

30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is your name? And he said, Legion; because many demons had entered into him.

31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.

32 And there was there a herd of many pigs feeding on the mountain. And they begged Him that He would allow them to enter into them. And He allowed them.

33 And coming out of the man, the demons entered into the pigs. And the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake and were choked.



Luke 11: MKJV

24 When the unclean spirit has gone out of a man, he walks through dry places seeking rest. And finding none, he says, I will return to my house from which I came out.

25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and decorated.

26 And he goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and entering in, they dwell there. And the last state of that man is worse than the first.



If a sinful man is moved to be filled by other things and persons (drugs, sex, and so on), could a wounded fallen angel have a similar longing to be filled? Worldly people who are wounded sometimes seek to lose themselves in fornication. Could fallen angels be driven by such a pain to do the same with women? Could their wounded state drive them to seek wholeness by possessing creatures? My theory is speculation only, but is a possible understanding of the origins of demons vs. fallen angels. I believe this is evidenced by the defeat of satan by Michael in Rev 12 and by satan possessing the anti-christ at that time. It also is comparable to the biblical truth of fallen man. Regardless, demons are fallen angels.



So in review, the beings in those space ships have to be one of the following or possibly both:



1. a hybrid, genetically superior, or mutated DNA human who was raised and made by fallen angels, whom are in complete subjection to the fallen angels (willing servants), or at least possessed by them



and/or



2. a clone or empty body made or bred as an empty shell for fallen angels to possess and live in



Man has already cloned animals without heads ( Click here ).



You can see a free video on the subject here:



Headless humans clones will grow organs in ten years - Video



More links on cloning men without heads or brains:



Re: fx-discuss: Clone: Headless humans?

Allow Science to Make Headless Clones

The Real Possibilities of Cloning

Morally Regressive Brits Clone Headless Frogs





So fallen angels could clone or make bodies without souls (no brain), making flesh robots for their embodiment. I even had a cousin who birthed a child that died after birth. The baby had no brain.



There are, as you can see, false teachings in the church about aliens and demons. While we cannot be certain what exactly is piloting every UFO, we know that they are some form of fallen angel or are possessed by one. Some of their ships have supposedly crashed, and supposed alien bodies were found. I also read of an alien being killed by an "abductee". Spirits can manifest physically, but do not have the power to stay in such form. Therefore they possess other life forms or create these flesh "bots".



Where are these ships kept? Are the ships real or physical? The ships must be real if they carry any physical body, which must be the case if ships are crashed and bodies are found. Or must be the case if abductees are placed in them. They probably do not come from other planets. Although it is possible that fallen angels could have some base out there. But no other beings are out there, unless fallen angels put them there, hybrids, cloned flesh bots, or human prisoners. But I doubt it.



The Bible says hell is in the earth. Hell is a storage place for the dead, and perhaps some fallen angels. Hell is actually a one place within 3 compartments. One compartment is paradise or Abraham's bosom which we read about in Luke 16 and another compartment is hell. Separating these 2 places is a great abyss, possibly within that abyss some fallen angels are kept in prison.



To see an illustration of these compartments:



Click here



Or here is another page discussing these compartments:



The Five Compartments of Hell



There are tales, theories, and perhaps even evidences of holes in the earth. Perhaps most notable are those at the North and South Poles. UFO's are often seen at the Poles. Whether it is a physical opening or a dimensional gate I do not know. Also many UFO's are seen in the Bermuda Triangle. Exactly opposite of the world of the Bermuda Triangle is a place near China, The Dragon's Triangle. Many ships disappear there and many UFO's are seen. Opposite ends of the globe, could there be entrances at these 2 points as well? Possibly, but where to?



Abraham's bosom or paradise was emptied when Jesus resurrected. All the Old Testament saints went to heaven with Him.



Eph 4: 8 ..."When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." 9 (What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)



1 Pet 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19 through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 22 who has gone into heaven...



Here we see the saints going with Him:



Acts 1:9: And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.



Acts 1:11: Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.



Jude 1:14: And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,



Is Paradise/Abraham's bosom being used by fallen angels?



Here is a quote from one source: http://www.uforanks.com/agenda9.htm

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Abductees are taken to different places. Some have reported leaving the ship and going into what appeared to be subterranean levels of our own planet, Earth.



One well-known abductee, Betty Andreasson Luca, reported a beautiful area with trees and water and several slien ‘babies.’ It was very peaceful there. She said that while there she was in an ‘out of body’ state, which the aliens had instigated technologically with a small device they carried on their belts.



If this area was underground and she in an ‘out of body’ state, it is possible she was in the area of hell called Paradise, which was deserted and left empty two thousand years ago when Christ took the righteous occupants to their permanent home in heaven. This is strictly a matter of conjecture on my part.



She also stated she saw what looked like angels guarding the entrance.



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Another possibility is that the fallen angels are using the great chasm or abyss that separates hell and Paradise.



Rev 9:1 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth.



Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.



The difficulties with this, are the verses above and that there are verses elsewhere stating that there are some fallen angels in everlasting chains waiting for judgment. Whether that is hell or this abyss I do not know. But it does appear that a demon has a key at first and later an angel. Is God going to lock the fallen angels in their home as a prison for 1000 years during Christ's rule?



Isa 13: MKJV

5 They come from a far country, from the end of the heavens, the LORD and the weapons of His indignation, to destroy all the land.



Could that verse coincide with Rev 9 or Rev 12? That demons "from the end of the heaven" having been kicked out by God and the angels in Rev 12, are now attacking people? Could the "far country" be underground bases given to them by certain nations?



Here is a link to a page discussing more in-depth the idea of demons/aliens in Rev 9:



Chapter 9 Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!



This is just a possibility, not a doctrine. Only trying to fill in the pieces for you. Wherever they are located, is of little importance. Their purpose is not that important either, because we know that God wins.



Some people think that this is a plot by satan to create the anti-christ; believing the anti-christ to be a super human, or a hybrid. Others think that demons want to taint our blood and our genetic line. Some believe that God brought the flood and destroyed all mankind because their blood was tainted by demon DNA, except for Noah's family. This is what the Bible say's is why the flood happened:



Gen 6:5-7,11-13



The reason God had the flood was:



1. how great man's wickedness had become

2. every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time

3. the earth was full of violence

4. all the people on earth had corrupted their ways



The DNA-blood problem, if true (which I seriously doubt) is a side issue. God is not interested in races:



1 Tim 1: NKJV

4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.



Rom 9: ESV

6 ... For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring... 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.



John 1: LITV

12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave authority to become children of God, to the ones believing into His name,

13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God.



Titus 3: NKJV

9 But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless.



If a person were to have some DNA that was tampered with, God would not just condemn them because of it. He desires all to be saved. But He does reserve judgment for the puppets of satan (the false prophet and the anti-christ, and this is not because of DNA). There is a fine line here. Fallen angels have no chance to be saved, but humans do, by accepting the work of Christ. Doing so makes you a new creature.



2 Cor 5: LITV

17 So that if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new!



Be careful of these false teachings out there. Yes there is some mystery to the UFO phenomena, but not enough for Christians to create strange doctrines about it. Many even discount the whole thing and don't realize that it happened in Genesis. Concerning the end times, Jesus told His disciples that His Second Coming would be preceded by many signs. Among these, would be, "fearful sights and great signs … from heaven" (Luke 21:11 NKJV). The Bible also says:



Math 24: MKJV

37 But as the days of Noah were , so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered into the ark.

39 And they did not know until the flood came and took them all away. So also will be the coming of the Son of man.



In the days of Noah, the sons of God came and took women and mated with them. These offspring ruled over men. Could these these things be happening now and with more to come?



The following verse is an interesting one. This is out of Daniel where the last kingdom of man is described in a dream. This would further the evidence Math 24 with Noah and End days:



Dan 2:43 MKJV ...they shall mix themselves with the seed of men...



This "mixing" cannot be the seed of spirits. Spirits don't have seed. God CREATED seed for the birth of Christ. In fact, Jesus is called the Sperma of God.



Luke 8:11 ...The seed is the word of God.



John 1:

1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...



1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.





God has creative abilities, angels/spirits do not. The only mixing they can do, is corrupt/manipulate DNA. This was done by satan for the Tree of Knowledge:



See here



The mixing could simply be the bonding of demonic spirit into human flesh, which also is very symbolic of the rest of the verses:



Dan 2: MKJV

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.

43 And as you saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mix themselves with the seed of men. But they shall not cling to one another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.



"they shall not cling to one another" - the human spirit clings to the human flesh, but a demonic spirit can be driven out of flesh in the name of Jesus (if one is a believer). What is interesting, is this mixture of clay and iron is describing the last government (kingdom) of man in the End Times. If this refers to demons in flesh bots (of which I am not certain), involved in last day governments, this is also viable evidence in my theory of reverse history described here:



http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/paranormal.html



Could some world governments in their turn toward the babylonian one world system, be influenced or guided by fallen spirits as in the days of Noah? Or by genetic creations possessed by fallen angels?



Fallen angels are spirit beings. If they are actively pursuing a plan similar to that done in Genesis, to have flesh bodies to possess, and rule men as gods; then they will need a place on or in the earth. If they are mixing their authority with governments, then governments are probably giving them secret bases.



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Ghosts:



http://www.kingdom-gospel.com/paranormal2.html



Ghosts, Necromancy, Channeling, Praying and Talking to the Dead



Many people believe in ghosts. Even many people in the churches. But what does the Bible say about this? Here is a story from the Old Testament about this subject:



1 Sam 28:

3: Now Samuel was dead...And Saul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land.

5: And when Saul saw the host of the Philistines, he was afraid, and his heart greatly trembled.

6: And when Saul enquired of the LORD, the LORD answered him not, neither by dreams nor by Urim, nor by prophets.

7: Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.

8: And Saul disguised himself... and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.

9: And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?

10: And Saul sware to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.

11: Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.

12: And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.

13: And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

14: And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.

15: And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.

16: Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?



Because of this story, many people think ghosts are on the earth, or that it is ok to talk to dead people. But many have not finished looking at what the Bible says about this incident.



There has been much debate about this story, whether it really was Samuel or not. But scripture answers this. Saul was deceived, for he had stopped following God. In verse 7 in the original language, King James Bible, and possibly other translations, it says the witch had a familiar spirit, which is a demon. We know this to be true by reading the story in the book of Acts, I quoted above for psychics.



Saul's story continues elsewhere. Let's read:



1 Chron 10: KJV

13: So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it;



The Darby Bible

13: ... and also for having inquired of the spirit of Python, asking counsel of it;



Young's Literal Translation

10:13 ... and also for asking at a familiar spirit -- to inquire, --



21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

13 ... and also for asking counsel of one who had a familiar spirit, to inquire of it.



That verse ends with the word "it", it was a familiar spirit, it was not Samuel the prophet, this verse tells us so, by saying what "it" is, a familiar spirit.



So this was a demon, pretending to be Samuel. There are no ghosts wandering around. Just demons pretending to be ghosts. If a person dies, they do not stay on the earth, they either go to heaven or to hell.



2 Cor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.



Luke 16: MKJV

22 And it happened that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. The rich one also died and was buried.

23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.



Lets finish this story in Luke to learn more why the dead don't talk to the living.



Luke 16: MKJV

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented.

26 And besides all this, there is a great chasm fixed between you and us; so that they desiring to pass from here to you cannot, nor can they pass over to us from there.

27 And he said, I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,

28 for I have five brothers, so that he may testify to them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham said to him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them.

30 And he said, No, father Abraham, but if one should go to them from the dead, they would repent.

31 And he said to him, If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even though one rose from the dead.



Talking with dead people won't get anyone anywhere. The reason the King James Bible calls them 'Familiar Spirits' is because these demons become familiar of people. Some will even be attached to families and know the heritage of the family. These demons will pretend to be one they are "familiar" with to deceive people.



Heb 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.



1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God...



2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.



Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!



When you read those 4 scriptures you can see that demons can visit people disguised as an angel or as a person.
blanc
2016-12-15 16:19:51 UTC
i think of in some thing supernatural enormously in aliens, ghosts, one hundred%, or perchance the bermuda triangle, even in spite of the incontrovertible fact that i dont understand if its seen paranormal categorized. yet i could desire to wish to adventure and capture organic and organic advice. yet many stuff strange and beautiful themes have happened to me on a similar time as i grew to grow to be appropriate right into a sprint lady appropriate to the age of four or 5. its an prolonged tale in spite of the incontrovertible fact that, so im now not telling it.
Deke
2007-10-28 16:17:51 UTC
The story detailing Ezekiel's Wheel has been discussed as a possible UFO/alien encounter.



It has also been theorized that when Moses ascended Mount Sinai, he spoke to aliens, rather than God.
mystic_lonewolf22
2007-10-28 16:16:22 UTC
nope. But it would be a match because they're all fictional and there is no evidence to support them.
2007-10-28 16:20:26 UTC
No. But why don't you just read the whole thing through to see for yourself. I did.
Dr. R PhD in Revolution
2007-10-28 16:17:29 UTC
they're all over but you need to interpret them correctly. sadam and gomorrah were destroyed by pillars of fire. explosion? nuke? also the descriptions of when angels come to man some people interpret it as flying machines. look up the ancient astronaut theory.
Kristi P
2007-10-28 16:18:51 UTC
nope
2007-10-28 16:15:10 UTC
no
wellcome
2007-10-29 11:25:45 UTC
IN THE REALM OF DEMONS AND PHANTOMS



investing him with personal responsibility which no other creature besides him tan have in Subsequent Creation, because only man possesses the ability which is decisive in this matter and which rests in the very nature of the spirit!

And only he atone in the entire Subsequent Creation bears spirit in his innermost tore, and as such lie atone receives connection with the Supreme Living Power resting in Subsequent Creation! The Primordial Beings in Paradise are of a different species of spirit to the world wanderers, the so-called earth-men, and their capacity for connection is therefore directed towards another, a higher and far stronger wave of power. This they use consciously, being naturally able to create with it things quite different to those of the world wanderers to whom the earth-men belong. The highest wave of power of the earth-men is but a gradation of the power resting in Primordial Creation, just as they themselves are but a gradation of the Primordial Beings!

The main Jack in human knowledge so far is the realisation of the many gradations which become ever weaker as they descend from Primordial Creation, and the recognition that men themselves belong to these gradations only. Once this understanding has really penetrated, their hitherto presumptuous attitude will fall away and clear the path for ascent!

The stupid vaingloriousness exhibited by men in claiming supremacy, even of carrying divinity within themselves, will suffer an ignominious collapse, and finally there will only remain a liberating shame. The Primordial Beings, who stand so much higher and who are of much greater value, are not possessed of such conceit. They only smile indulgently at the straying earthworms, just as many parents smile at the fantastic chatter of their children!

But let us return to the intuitive perception! A man's intuitive perception which has thus been strengthened now, in a further gradation, immediately and automatically produces a form which exactly embodies the nature of the intuition, in this case of envy. In the beginning the form stands within its creator and later beside him, connected to him by a cord through which it receives nourishment. At the same time, however, in obedience to the Law of the Attraction of Homogeneous Species, it immediately and automatically makes contact with the power-centre of the same species of forms and receives strong reinforcements therefrom. Together with the young form, these then fashion the ethereal environment of the person concerned.

Meanwhile this intuitive perception rises higher and finally reaches the brain, exciting thoughts of a like nature which set themselves a very definite aim. Thus the thoughts become channels or roads upon which these forms drift towards a very definite goal, there to do harm if they find the proper soil.

However, if the man who is to be the target of these forms is only pure within, that is, if lie has a pure volition, he offers no point of attack for these forms, no anchorage! Still, this does not mean that they are rendered harmless again! Instead they continue to wander about singly, or unite themselves with their homogeneous species in places of assembly which one may well call "planes", because they are subject to the law of their spiritual gravity and therefore must form definite planes which can only admit and hold the same species.

Thus they remain an absolute danger to all those human spirits whose volition to do what is good is not of sufficient strength and purity! Finally they also bring destruction upon their authors, who constantly remain in touch with them, and who through the cord of nourishment continually permit new envy-energy to flow bad; to them, which the forms themselves receive from the powercentres.

This makes it difficult for such a creator to indulge again in purer intuitions, because he remains very badly handicapped by the return flow of envy-energies, which continually tear him away from it. He is forced to expend far greater efforts for his ascent than a human spirit not so hampered. And it is only through a constantly pure volition that such a nourishing-cord of evil gradually decays, until it finally shrivels up and fans feebly away.

This means the liberation of the author of such evil, provided that his form has meanwhile done no harm; but if it has done some harm new ties are then immediately formed which must also be redeemed!

To effect the redemption of such threads it is absolutely necessary that the author should again cross the path, either on this earth or in the beyond, of any person harmed by the evil, so that recognition and forgiveness can be obtained. Consequently the ascent of the author of such forms cannot take place before those persons who have suffered injury have made their ascent. The connecting thread or threads of fate hold him back until redemption has been effected through compensation and forgiveness.

But this is not all! This intuitive volition, under the strengthening influence of the "Living Power", has a far greater effect, for it not only populates the Ethereal World, but also influences the World of Gross Matter, either building up or destroying!

This should at last make man recognise the folly which lie has already perpetrated, instead of fulfilling the duties ordained through the abilities of his spirit for the benefit of Subsequent Creation and of all creatures. Man often asks why there should be such a conflict in nature, and yet what is of animistic substantiality adjusts itself in Subsequent Creation ... to the nature of man! With the exception of the Primordial Elemental Beings!

But let us continue! The creations of the intuitive volition of the human spirit, the forms mentioned above, do not cease te, exist when detached from their author, but continue to exist independently as long as they receive nourishment from human spirits who by nature are like-minded! It need not be the author himself. They seek an opportunity to attach themselves to this or that person who is open to their influence, or aven to Chose whose power of resistance is weak. If evil they are the demons born of envy, hatred and all that is similar. If gond they are benevolent beings which only lovingly make peace and further ascent!

With all these processes a visible earthly action by a human being is not in the least necessary; it only adds further chains or threads which must be redeemed on the gross material plane, and would require a reincarnation if redemption cannot take place in one life on earth.

These forms of the human intuitive volition have power within themselves because they coma into being through spiritual volition in combination with the "neutral principal power" and, what is most important, because thereby during the process of their formation they also absorb animistic substantiality*, that is, that species from which gnomes and their like develop.

The volition of an animal cannot achieve this because the animal soin is not of a spiritual nature, but only animistic. Thus this is a process which only takes place with the forms of the human intuitive volition and which must therefore bring great blessings if the volition is good, but incalculable mischief if the volition is evil, because the animistic core of such forms carries its own motive power, and is thus able to influence all that is gross material. And thereby the responsibility of the human spirit becomes enormous! According to its nature its intuitive volition creates benevolent entities as well as demons!

Both are merely the products of man's spiritual abilities in Subsequent Creation. Their Cornes, self-motivated and thus unpredictable in their influence, do not originate in that part o f

Animistic Substantiality which has the capacity to will, and from which the animal soins corne, but issue from a gradation therein which does not possess the personal ability to will. In the World of Animistic Substantiality, as well as in the Spiritual Sphere above it, there are also many gradations and special species, about which I shall have to speak separately.

Let me add as a further explanation that animistic substantiality also bas contact with a living power resting in Creation which, however, is not the saure as the Living Power with which the volition of the human spirit is connected, but a gradation of it.

It is just these possibilities and impossibilities of combination which are the strictest maintainers o f order in Subsequent Creation and bring about a firm, immutable system in all evolution and dissolution!

So far-reaching, then, is the activity of the human spirit! Now look closely at men of the present day, and you can imagine what mischief they have already dope, especially when you consider the further consequences of the activity of these living forms which are let loose upon all creatures! These resemble a stone which, once it bas left the band, is no longer subject to the control and will of the thrower!

Besides these forms, the far-reaching activity and influence of which it would take a whole book to describe, there is another species which is next to and closely connected with these, but forming a weaker section. Yet it is still dangerous enough to molest many people, to hinder them and even cause them to fall! These are the forms of thoughts, that is to say, the thought-forms or phantoms.

The volition of the thoughts, being the product of the earthly brain, in contrast to the volition of the intuitive perception, does not have the ability to make direct contact with the neutral principal power resting in Creation. Therefore these forms lacx the selfacting cote of the intuitive forms, which latter we might call "animistic shadows of the soin". Thought-forms remain absolutely dependent upon their creator, with whom they are connected in a similar way as the forms of the intuitive volition, that is, through a cord of nourishment which simultaneously constitutes the road


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