Question:
scientist theory proved wrong?
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:35:02 UTC
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/12/nasa-finds-new-life/

original theory life consists of 6 components: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur

new bacteria has arsenic something thought to never exist

so do we really evolve from monkeys
23 answers:
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:38:19 UTC
"Scientist theory proved wrong."



I've always been of the belief that every generation of humans think they have it "right." In about a century from now (and this is hypothetically speaking, because chances are humanity will be wiped out in the next few years)--humans will look back and say "wow, they sure had it wrong!"



The cycle never ends. God has the answers, we don't.
The Voice of Reason
2010-12-02 10:47:27 UTC
That bacteria uses arsenic in the place of phosphorus in the 6 components. Also, it was NASA that made the discovery. If you don't think that NASA consists of scientists (or that a scientific discovery somehow proves science wrong), then I've got some bad news for you.



You may not realize this at the moment, but this does bring up some serious religious implications (particularly for the fundamentalist types). Since this new life form is unlike anything else on earth, it's basically evidence that life has began from scratch not once, but TWICE (if not more) here on earth..... As I recall, there wasn't a sequel to genesis in the Bible, so some religions do have some 'splainin' to do to their followers.
Jabber wock
2010-12-02 10:49:15 UTC
I don't see any reference to any existing science being disproven - could you point that out?



Science has never claimed that life is restricted to 6 elements, only that all the life we knew of depends on those 6. This discovery just extends that, not disproving anything.



Similarly we might find more life elsewhere that depends on different elements.



So no - you seem to have misinterpreted what this actually means.



Edit:

"so do we really evolve from monkeys"



No. Science has never claimed that. There is only a claim that monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. This new finding has no bearing on that.



It may contribute towards the research into abiogenesis i.e. the natural beginning of life.
No Chance Without Evolution ;)
2010-12-02 10:54:04 UTC
What theory?

No theory say life ONLY consist of C,H,O,N,P,S. Every sources I know say MAIN, that is, they don't wanna bring the whole periodic table in, okay? Do you know you have some GOLD inside ;)? So in short, no theory is proved wrong by that :D

The fact that there's new arsenic bacs doesn't prove evolution is wrong. In my opinion, we've always thought that evolution on Earth is the big tree whose root is the phosphorus unicellular 1st organism; but in fact, the whole evolution tree we've known is only a branch, and the arsenic bacs are on the other that share with us an even more ancient ancestor; or arsenic bacs maybe even a whole new tree, a whole new path of evolution!. They can even prove abiogenesis and evolution more! Because we can be sure that whatever it takes, life will find a way!
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:48:42 UTC
What is the big shock? Science has been saying, since we started space exploration, that we may find life forms based on other substances than our own. Where were you a few months ago when life forms were found in the lips of active volcano's on the ocean floor? This has been going on since at least 1977.



"Deep, under perpetual ice cover, with reduced photosynthesis and thus little organic matter coming from above, the sea floor of the central Arctic Ocean is a marine desert, its life more sparse than in other ocean basins. But photosynthesis is not the only basis for life: locally, methane and hydrogen sulfide seep from the ocean floor, supporting dense oases of organisms that depend on bacteria able to consume these chemicals. Such "chemosynthetic" life does not directly depend on sunlight and can thrive even at great ocean depths."



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MBqdQZniHcUJ:www.arctic.noaa.gov/essay_vogt.html+Life+Volcanow+Ocean+floor&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk



http://io9.com/5517847/life-in-an-undersea-volcano
Johnny Relentless
2010-12-02 10:40:57 UTC
What you are quoting is not a theory of life, it is a definition of know life forms. Scientists have been well aware and actively searching for other types of life. Why do you think this new one was found? Not because of the writings of Bronze Age goat herders.



Oh, and the strength of science is that when they are proved wrong, it is considered a breakthrough, and they learn from it, unlike theists, who stick their heads in the sand and say 'This is not happening, this is not happening...'
Old Timer Too
2010-12-02 10:39:29 UTC
The DNA record (with admitted holes) has shown that we have evolved from a common ancestor with "monkeys". That which makes up life has nothing to do with evolution, per se.



And we have never evolved from monkeys. That's a common fable of sectarian preachers and preaching.



TDs expected for my comment about preachers.
The Doctor
2010-12-02 10:41:37 UTC
Well, arsenic and phosphorus are chemically similar. If you look on the Periodic Table, Phosphorus is on the row above in the same column.
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:39:09 UTC
no theory was proved wrong, it's just a new discovery. it's possible an organism evolved that substitued sulphur for phosphorus in it's dna and was successful in a sulphur rich environment
MOORT00#
2010-12-02 11:00:39 UTC
Speelling aside , science is in the business of proving itself wrong that is what scientific method is dear, you might call it discovery
?
2010-12-02 10:39:03 UTC
You may be better served posting this in another forum. Religion and biological evolution are two different disciplines. I'm truly sorry that reality is infringing on superstition, but this is your problem, not the scientific community's.
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:42:33 UTC
thank you for pointing out a discovery which leaves no doubt whatsoever that evolution does indeed occur. You really should get a little better education--you look foolish making my point for me.
marsel_duchamp
2010-12-02 10:41:36 UTC
No. And this has no implication on evolution which, from the way you phrased it, you have no understanding of. This will probably strengthen evolutionary theory.
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:39:57 UTC
We also have sodium, potassium, calcium, and iron in our bodies, so I don't see your real point here, aside from a lame attempt to stir the pot.
?
2010-12-02 10:38:32 UTC
Scientists always is willing to correct itself as new credible and reliable evidence is presented.

Whereas "religious" evidence still dates back to 6234 B.C.
za
2010-12-02 10:47:42 UTC
So what is your question? Science makes progress by finding new evidence - there's nothing new in that.
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:37:46 UTC
"so do we really evolve from monkeys"



You're a retard. This finding has nothing to do with common descent, nor does it "disprove" evolution or anything else for that matter.



PS: Humans didn't evolve from monkeys, dumbass. We share a common ancestor.
?
2010-12-02 10:46:30 UTC
No, we don't evolve from monkeys



Therefore, God exists!

I have seen the light(!)
Avery
2010-12-02 10:37:33 UTC
I have yet to hear of the Scientist Theory.



If it's proved wrong, do we cease to have scientists?
K~WOO
2010-12-02 10:37:57 UTC
We did NOT evolve FROM monkeys, BUT ALONGSIDE them.
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:36:44 UTC
Yay for OP not understanding what science is.



Side note: This is a scientific BREAKTHROUGH. And it's not good for theists.
Screwdriverz
2010-12-02 10:51:52 UTC
Yes: you are a moron.
anonymous
2010-12-02 10:38:02 UTC
If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys. God created us from the dust of the earth and breathed into us and we became a living soul. He didn't do that for monkeys.


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