Has anyone ever watched the epsoided of South Park . . .?

Question

when they exsposed Scientology a.k.a Dianetics. I researched this topic and found that what South Park was talking about was true, all of it. What do you think about this and do you know anyone that believes in this 'religion'?

Answer 1

It is true, and yes I do know people that believe in it. I'd say more but we know what the Cof$ is like.



The details of Xenu have not only been told by ex-members who have left the cult, but has also been agreed upon by scientology in one of the many court cases conducted around this cult. The court case is referred to as the Fishman Affidavit.



See here for details:

http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/spaink-ot3.html

http://www.clambake.org/archive/secret.html



This is a interesting statement from a scientific scrutiny of OT III:

"My overall conclusion based on results of my check on the OT3 details, my analyses of Dianetics and Scientology, and Hubbard's own admissions, is that OT3 is an invalid action for any of religion, science, training college or business, but is valid as criminal racketeering."

http://www.clambake.org/archive/ot/peter_forde.html



It is not a joke, and is definitely not funny.



You don't have to go to 'dodgy' website articles (and I'm not sure how Wikipedia fits in there, I always considered it neutral), you can look at court documents & govt. investigations, ex-member testimonials and much more. They all tell the same story, that the Church of Scientology is a dangerous cult.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/audit/

http://www.clambake.org/archive/judge_quotes.html

http://www.clambake.org/archive/CourtFiles/

http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/



Ron lied about his life to make believe he had a scientific and philosophical background on which to make dianetics and scientology amongst many other lies, and this too can be proved with more offical documents:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/LRH-bio/



Here is my answer as to what scientology is:



“Scientology is a system of beliefs and practices created by American pulp fiction[1][2] and science fiction [3] author L. Ron Hubbard in 1952 as a self-help philosophy.”

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientology



See here for a critic’s view:

http://www.clambake.org/roland-intro.html



See here for scientology’s own view:

http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/index.html



Scientology is considered a religion in some countries, a profitable organisation in others, and in some it is considered a cult whose practises have been banned. For example, the US gives Scientology tax exempt status, whereas Germany and Belgium have called it a “totalitarian cult” and a “commercial enterprise”. France in 1995 classified it as a dangerous cult. The UK refused charitable status in 1999. Russia has a pending court trial over their refusal to register scientology as a religion.



I personally believe scientology to be a dangerous cult that lies to and tricks adherents into believing they are improving themselves and the world around them, while they are for the most part doing the exact opposite. It is made up of good people with good intentions that have been unfortunately deceived just because they do want to help others and themselves live better lives. It appeals to a person’s good intentions, and therein lies the trap.



It seems to have been set up to make money, and indeed they have been very successful at it – although the money is all at the top and not with the actual people delivering the services. Indeed Hubbard is quoted as saying "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion"

http://www.skeptictank.org/readdig.htm



Hubbard has not discovered anything about the true nature of man, nor was he educated or qualified to do so. He was undoubtedly a clever man but also with many psychotic tendencies, that never cleared his own problems let alone anyone else’s. He died on the physch drugs he has campaigned so hard against, in a bid to have his cult takeover their responsibilities. He had a reoccurring stomach ulcer, and continued to claim military disability allowance. By personal accounts he had a wild temper, mild OCD, & respiratory problems, despite the fact that his new discoveries were meant to fix all that.



Dianetics is a rewrite of Freudian memory regression into a complex and ill-worded theory, along with occult magick from Aleister Crawley with Hubbard’s experience as a sci-fi writer thrown in. Scientology has never submitted it methods to the scientific community, nor is it endorsed by any such body. Hubbard was not a scientist and seemingly knew nothing of the scientific method, nor has any of his ‘extensive research’ ever come to light. What has come to light is the social & mind control techniques that take place in scientology, and how people are duped into following this money & alien orientated cult.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

http://www.clambake.org/archive/techniques/

http://www.clambake.org/archive/lrhbare/



This only formal study of dianetics done near the time it appeared showed dianetics did not achieve any of its stated aims or benefits.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/fischer/



Here is an archive of official studies critical of scientology

http://www.clambake.org/archive/audit/



You cannot progress in scientology without a belief in re-incarnation, and then little alien souls that inhabit your body, so it is not compatible with other people’s faith, it just says it is.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/ot/

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientology

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/xenu



They lie to members to gain and keep them.



They say it has been thoroughly researched using the scientific method when it hasn’t.



They use mind control techniques: http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/documents/scientology/pignotti



They hound and harass critics:

http://www.suppressiveperson.org/



They limit outside information via censoring, condemning it the work of criminals, as well as via disconnection with family.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/events/censorship/

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/15.htm



There are certainly not 8 million adherents worldwide, that is fact.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/COS_members.html



I have included the links so you can make up your own mind, whereas theta (below) thinks that her anecdotal evidence is better than that from law courts & ex-members... Ok....



My information is based upon court trials and ex-member testimonials who have no hidden agenda but to see the truth about scientology be known; its a cult. See for yourself on the internet. Look up on cult expert websites, here are some but do a wider search if you want:

http://www.freedomofmind.com/

http://www.cultinformation.org.uk/

http://www.csj.org/

http://www.dci.dk/



Theta will have you believe there is a big conspiracy to trounce on scientology by govt.s and esp the mental health services, and that is the hidden agenda she speaks of. This is not the case, the drive against scientology is mainly by ex-members.



The true story goes like this.



Sci-Fi writer tries to make more money with a questionable self-help technique derived from existing works cobbled together in a hodge podge of techniques to disarm the crticial thinking of an individual, so they can be fully enveloped into the cult. People of this era were very interested in alternative therapy, and latched onto Dianetics. Sci-Fi writer sets up organisation for the purpose of making money called scientology. People are made to feel like it works, and if it doesn’t it’s their fault for not applying the ‘tech’ properly. A mixture of trance like suggestions, known physiological responses and peer pressure all tell you have had a success, when infact you haven’t. This is demonstated by the fact that no-one has ever shown themselves to be a ‘Clear’ or an ‘OT’ by displaying any other the near supernatural powers these states are meant to confer.

Sci-Fi writer goes slightly insane, and starts creating very strange orders like ‘fair game’, ‘disconnection’, ‘ethics’, ‘RPF’, and storing secret files on each of its members in case anything goes awry (so it can blackmail them).

Sci-Fi writer dies a very unhealthy and mentally wrecked individual.

His cult continues to this day.

Answer 2

Well, I'd have to question your exact research sources and the actual methods of your research.

Having studied and applied Scientology for the past 35 years

(obviously I am a Scientologist) I can only say that getting your

information about a religion from "South Park" (!) and looking it up in various bogus websites will not give you an accurate concept of what it is. (If that was the purpose of your research. I suspect it was more a search to justify South Park for it's efforts to ridicule and or "expose" religions)





Just for the record , here is a pretty good description of what the religion of Scientology is about :



Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. This is different from a religious practice. All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the priniciples of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.

You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.

And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.

It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:

Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.



The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.

The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. And thereby his native abilities .

When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.



How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The developement of the technology is new.

He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights

to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable estate., when he died.



He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"

There are currently over 8 million Scientologists in more that 150 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 55 years old.

The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:

1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.

2. People find it interesting.

3. People find it works.

4. People pass it along to others.

5. It grows.



Note the absense of any "belief" in aliens.... or anything else for that matter.

Honestly, you need to be more aware that there can often be a "hidden agenda" when you are using a broad communication line like the media, internet websites or TV as your ONLY source of data.

You also need to actually take a look for yourself to really know about something for yourself.

Otherwise all you will have is exactly what you've got, an opinion, which may or may not be based on any facts.

And that's pretty much what you will also get from your question

on this forum.



But that's OK with me anyway....... as long as you are aware that your information did not originate from the correct source.

In short you have an opinion, which is not the same as real knowledge about something.

Answer 3

South Park made fun of Scientology with the Super Adventure Club that Chef joined. There were a few false things in the episode. For instance, the Super Adventure Club believed that by having sex with children they'd live forever. This however is not true for Scientology. They do have some...hmm, interesting beliefs but none involve have sex with children.

Answer 4

Thats why they took that episode off, I didnt get to see it!!

It WAS WRONG of Chef to be Such a HYPOCRIT to Quit the Show afterwards, Not Suprised !!



yeah and to think Some of your top Movie Stars are into this crapp a$$ religion???



Sad but True!!

lets not forget the root of all Money is evil!

Answer 5

Yes, I asked almost the same question a week ago. It was hilarious, and freaky to learn about what some of our favorite celebrities are believeing in. And, I thought believeing the bible was bit too far-fetched for me.

Answer 6

Alien souls placed in the Earth's volcanoes by a guy called Xenu? You've gotta be kidding.

Answer 7

yes i have seen that episode, it is one of the funniest episodes of south park that i have seen, but i do think that they shouldn't have made fun of peoples beliefs like that, you could make fun of most religions like that but then you will offend the people who are a part of that religion and they will become even more strong in their beliefs

Answer 8

If you are fool enough to even bother with South Park junk, you're fool enough to swaller the lot!!

Answer 9

The one they did on Mormonism is was true to. That religion is just as bizarre. Then again ALL religions are bizarre.

Answer 10

no i didn' t see south park