Question:
How many failed predictions has the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society made so far?
anonymous
2011-12-12 05:01:18 UTC
I get that it's primarily a religious congregation/publishing and distribution company for religious literature, but I know that its board of directors has made several prophecies over the past hundred years or so concerning the date on which Jesus/Michael will kill all of the non-Jehovah's Witnesses. How many have come to pass, how many have failed, and how many have been retconned or simply removed from JW history?
Sixteen answers:
Poя¢єℓαιη Vєѕѕєℓ (στην αλήθεια)
2011-12-12 13:37:05 UTC
We don't prophesy / make predictions



Talking about the WBTS, you said "I try not to think about it at all.."

.... and yet here you are obsessing about us again.

You can't stop thinking about us, can you?

Go on, admit it



^_^
anonymous
2011-12-12 05:19:32 UTC
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society does not make predictions or prophecies, that is left entirely up to Jehovah God. Just as a student in class is corrected when he gets a wrong answer and he's given correct information, so it is when Jehovah's holy spirit gives enlightenment and opens up the truth about the scriptures in the bible and the faithful and discreet slave is open minded to it and acts on it. The bible states at Matthew 24:14 that the good news of the kingdom will preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations and then the end will come." Did you notice that it didn't say non-Jehovah's witnesses? The bible also says that "the wicked will be destroyed", again it didn't say non-Jehovah's witnesses.

Jehovah's Witnesses preach only what's in the bible, they do not make predictions or issue prophecies. They only preach about the ones that Jehovah has already written and those that it states are yet to be fulfilled.
anonymous
2011-12-12 15:16:28 UTC


1914: “...the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty’ (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced.” —The Time Is At Hand, 1886, p. 101









1915: “...the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty’ (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced.” —The Time Is At Hand, 1915 edition, p. 101









1918: “Also, in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by millions, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of ‘Christianity.’ ” —The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 485









1925: “...1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old....based upon the promises set forth in the divine Word, we must reach the positive and indisputable conclusion that millions now living will never die.” —Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 97









1940’s: “It would therefore appear that there is no reasonable or Scriptural injunction to bring children into the world immediately before Armageddon, where we now are.” —The Watchtower, November 1, 1938, p. 324









1975: “Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end.” —Kingdom Ministry, May 1974, p. 3
Jay
2011-12-13 11:33:39 UTC
They have made plenty. Typically the JW will say "we never claimed to be inspired", but the bible NEVER says it is ok to make a false prophecy as long a inspiration is never claimed.
anonymous
2011-12-12 05:35:52 UTC
They claimed Jesus was coming in 1914 and when he didn't they then claimed that he did come but it was in the spirit, not the flesh, but he's here in the spirit anyway because of all the Christians. They also made some other predictions that didn't come true. I don't have the dates on them. They claim that Jesus is actually the archangel, Michael which can be proven wrong. Read Hebrews 1 on that. Of ocurse they don't believe in the trinity.
pugjw9896
2011-12-12 05:19:41 UTC
The WT Society has not made any prediction that is not already in the Bible...But it has tried to estimate IF the prophecy/ prediction was due to happen...

Being imperfect, as we all are, it has learned to NOT try to do this again...under any circumstances...but be patient and wait on Jehovah's actions...

1914 is a set date that has not changed...the moment that Jesus became King of Jehovah's planned new Kingdom...

Which now reigns in heaven but has yet to commence on the earth.

(Revelation 12:7-9) And war broke out in heaven: Mi′cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

(Revelation 12:12) On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”
Emily
2011-12-12 05:02:52 UTC
there have been thousands of predictions like that, they have been probably predicting things like that since the beginning of time
Brian
2011-12-12 06:28:41 UTC
You said that Jehovah's Witnesses "made several prophecies". I must correct you.



Jehovah's Witnesses do not make prophesies.



They do not receive prophesies from God.



They interpret already made Bible prophesies.



Big difference between making or receiving a prophesy and interpreting already made Bible prophesies.
Mindy
2011-12-12 07:34:58 UTC
"How many failed predictions has the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society made so far?"



0 (Zip, Zilch, Nada, None).



Capeesh? :-)



No? Not convinced? Just not "buying it"? Think I'm full of it and delusional?



Typical. :-D





No matter though, because some things are true regardless of whether or not YOU believe they are and the FACT that Jehovah's modern day Witnesses haven't made ONE single prophecy or prediction to date is only but one of these things.



It is true that Jehovah's Witnesses have most definitely made mistakes in our understanding of what would occur at the end of certain time periods, we do not claim to be inspired prophets whatsoever.



People such as yourself really look like bottom of the barrel scrapers when posting this type of "question" because when truly and unbiasedly examined, the accusations amount to nonsense.





# 1)

Exhibit A:

'Did the Bible ever say that God's followers would never make mistakes?': http://bit.ly/sUkjYF



# 2)

Exhibit B:

'Has The Watchtower Society EVER Claimed to be Infallible?': http://bit.ly/rudADY



# 3)

Exhibit C:

'Have Jehovah's Witnesses EVER claimed to be an INSPIRED prophet?':

http://bit.ly/tz0AUE



# 4)

Exhibit D:

'Are Jehovah's Witnesses "false prophets"?':

http://bit.ly/smIxjF







Like I already said and I say again, people such as yourself really look like bottom of the barrel scrapers when posting the type of "question" you did here regarding our so called failed "predictions" because when our ACTUAL Bible based beliefs are truly and unbiasedly examined, the accusations you and those who think as you make about us amount to what they always have been and always will be... Utter nonsense.





Yeah, yeah, I know I REALLY must annoy you and that what I'm relaying must make you wanna grind your teeth to their gums, but don't you worry, neither I nor any of my spiritual brothers and sisters take it personally. What you (and those like you) FAIL to understand is that we ENJOY when you post mock questions such as the one you did here, I mean we really E-N-J-O-Y it!



:-D



Why do we enjoy it?



Because what you're doing is actually making it possible for us to respond with what OUR actual beliefs are and in so doing we are able to give a fine witness (testimony) to our awesome God Jehovah, His Son and we their people.



So keep it up dude, we'll look forward to the next mock question and the next and the next and the next... Well, you get the picture.



Oh yeah, BTW, you can hem and haw all you'd like from here to Armageddon with regards to our mistakes, however, no matter how hard you deny, unlike the overwhelming majority of the clergy and members of the churches of Christendom, Jehovah's Witnesses have NEVER made the mistake of losing Faith or ceasing to be watchful as to fulfillment of Almighty Jehovah God’s purposes.... N-E-V-E-R.



We have continued to keep to the fore in our thinking the counsel given by Jesus at Matthew 24:42:

“Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.”





Ciao ;-)
anonymous
2011-12-12 08:18:16 UTC
The Jehovah's Witnesses have never made any predictions or prophecies. So the answer is none.
anonymous
2011-12-12 14:21:44 UTC
2000 was not stated to be the end, but there was strong indication that it would be impossible for Armageddon not to come before 2000.

"And if the wicked system of this world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the World War I generation." Watchtower 1980 October 15 p.31



"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century". Watchtower 1989 January 1 p.12.



The 1989 Watchtower used the term "in our 20th century" in the magazine, but this was changed to "in our day" for the bound volume and subsequent CD library. Click on the thumbnails to compare the magazine version to the bound volume.

watchtower magazine - in our 20th century watchtower bound volume - in our day



I pioneered during the late 1980's and was strongly influenced by the statements in the 1980's articles. I told my Bible studies and many people when preaching that it would be almost impossible that the end would not have arrived by the year 2000.

2033



2033 is not a changed date but shows the attitude of serving to a date still seems to exist within the Organization. In 2003 a concept was touched upon, with attention being draw to the fact that Noah's last days went for 120 years.



In Noah's day, Jehovah declared: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. Just think what that meant for those then living! Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring "the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens."-Genesis 6:17. Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. "After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld," says the apostle Paul, "[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household." (Hebrews 11:7) What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in "the time of the end." (Daniel 12:4) How should we respond to warnings we have been given? "He that does the will of God remains forever," states the Bible. (1 John 2:17) Now is therefore the time to do Jehovah's will with a keen sense of urgency." Watchtower 2003 December 15 p.15 "Warned of "Things Not Yet Beheld"



There is no specific statement in the article that the end must come by the end of 120 years or exactly on the 120th year. However, like with 1975, a parallel is drawn to yet another concept that is supposed to indicate that the end is soon to be upon us.



Knowing what has been written in the pages of the Watchtower in regards to Armageddon's arrival at many different years in the past how can anyone trust the Society after reading a quote like the following?

An aware Watchtower reader cannot help but see the irony in the following statement.



"Down through the centuries since Jesus’ day, so many unfulfilled predictions have been made that many no longer take them seriously. … Undeterred by previous failures, some seem to have been spurred on by the approach of the year 2000 and have made further predictions of the end of the world. … The flood of false alarms is unfortunate. They are like the wolf-wolf cries of the shepherd boy — people soon dismiss them, and when the true warning comes, it too is ignored." Awake 1993 Mar 22 3-4 Why So Many False Alarms?



It is sad to see how the Watchtower accounts for the wrong predictions of the past. Rather than accepting responsibility, subtle wording deflects the fault to the members.



"Out of zeal and enthusiasm for the vindication of Jehovah's name, Word and purposes, and the desire for the new system, some of his servants have at times been premature in their expectations." Watchtower 1979 July 1 p.29 How Jehovah Guides His People



It is an interesting attitude that the Governing Body shows towards its followers. It appears to feel that people will not serve Jehovah if the do not think he is about to shortly reward them with paradise; that if there is no urgency and no date to work for and pin hopes on, then people will drift away. This is an insult to individual motives. Many Churches are undergoing great growth without any such date as motivation. People have served God for generations based purely on the concept that they will see him in heaven at the end of their earthly life.
anonymous
2011-12-12 14:48:19 UTC
Greetings,



The accusation that Jehovah's Witnesses have claimed to be inspired prophets or have tried to predict the future is absolutely false and a misrepresentation. Since your question is based on a false assumption it is logically invalid.



First, it is an irrefutable fact that Jehovah's Witnesses' very doctrine has ALWAYS been that the gifts of inspired prophesying, direct communication from God, and special knowledge ceased after the Apostles died. This is a belief that has NEVER changed from their modern day inception as Bible Students to the present day. Therefore, any claim that Witnesses have personally received direct communication from God through angels can only be viewed as a misrepresentation of the facts.







The flat-out truth is that the Watchtower Society has NEVER claimed to give prophesies, to be inspired or to be infallible. These accusations are deceptive because they blatantly rip the Watchtower's words out of context.



Notice this sentence in the "Purpose" statement that appeared in EVERY issue of the Watchtower up to the mid- 70's: ***"No, The Watchtower is no inspired prophet, but it follows and explains a Book of prophecy..."***



"The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic. It invites careful and critical examination of its contents in the light of the Scriptures. Its purpose is to aid others to know Jehovah and his purposes toward mankind, and to announce Christ's established kingdom as our only hope."---- Watchtower, 15 August 1950



"It is not our intention to enter upon the role of prophet to any degree, but merely to give below what seems to us rather likely to be the trend of events—giving also the reasons for our expectations." Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's, March 1904, reprint, 3327 (emphasis added).





There are scores of similar Watchtower quotes that go back to the 1800's many qualifying the *interpretations* of Bible prophecy they discuss.



Neither Russell, the Watchtower nor any JW's has EVER claimed to give prophecies nor to be inspired. They never claimed infallibility in their teachings. Quite the contrary, they have always been willing to change as they gained knowledge. What a contrast to any religion which would continue to insist on believing doctrines which even their own scholars admit are not Scriptural!





On the other hand, I can show you several well known Evangelical ministers of Christendom who have claimed direct communication from God (usually when they need more money, or to claim God has forgiven them for moral sins).



The "Father of Protestantism" himself, Martin Luther taught Christ would return by 1564. Does that mean that all Protestants are false prophets? No, of course not. But they are if we equally apply the reasoning of those who accuse JW's.



Irish Bishop James Ussher's prediction was for 1996. Puritans Issac Watts, Joseph Mede and the Mathers in America were date-setters. The most famous one was actually a Baptist....William Miller who predicted 1843. Pastor Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, California predicted the Rapture in 1981.



All you have to do is pick up a book called "Apocalypses (Eugen Weber)" from your local book store and you will see how busy Christendom has been at picking dates in the past...and they are still SPECULATING! See also various books by Paula Fredriksen.





Now, did early JW's (Bible Students) have incorrect understandings of Bible prophesy? Yes, of course, as did nearly every other religion of that age.



Jesus didn't say you would identify the true religion because they never misunderstood prophesy (indeed that would exclude the apostles). He said that you would discern the true Christian Organization from the false "by their fruits," or the results of their Biblical teaching (Mat.7:16,20). Notice, this Scripture says Christians would identify "false prophets" BY THEIR FRUITAGE not by their infallibility. Now, who has the historical record of bloodthirsty wars, immorality, sectarian violence and factional splits?-- (Mat.7:21-23, 2Tim3:5, Gal.5:19-23)



When you consider the Witnesses "stability" in the essentials of Christian teaching and activity you get very solid evidences of True Christianity. From WW1 to Rwanda, Witnesses have imitated Christ while other religions continue to even kill members of their own church in warfare. JW's have continued to bring their beliefs into agreement with Scripture. When they were wrong about interpretations of prophecy, they were more than eager to admit it and change. This is in contrast to most other religions. For instance it took hundreds of years for Catholicism to admit it was wrong about Galileo! Protestants are just now (barely) admitting error in their support of Hitler.



Sincerely,



BAR-ANERGES
anonymous
2011-12-12 05:04:47 UTC
doesn't say it will kill all non JWs, says it will give those who were victims of ignorance a chance to repent. i usto be a JW, but as i got older, turned out it was B.S. so who cares about their failed predictions
anonymous
2011-12-12 10:35:04 UTC
Most of the JW apologists here have basically said, to the effect....."no one is perfect". I truly enjoyed Raymond Franz's(Former GB member) take on the matter:



"It is one thing for a man to make an "***" of himself because of wanting to see something happen.It is quite another thing for him to urge others to share his views,to criticize them if they do not,even to question their faith or impugn their motives if they do not see the matter as he sees it".



In actually seeing for myself MANY the articles in question, it's readily apparent that such articles cannot be whisked away with the notion that "well...no one is perfect". Such articles told how Jehovah God placed the "seal of approval" on such dates that turned out to be completely incorrect. They were "fully backed by Jehovah". The following quote was made from the book, the "Harp of God":



"The running to and fro of people is without question a fulfillment of the prophecy testifying to the "time of the end". These physical facts can not be disputed and are sufficient to convince any reasonable mind that we have been in "the time of the end" since 1799."



----> Of course, that date turned out to be discarded in it's entirety , but notice the language used to promote it. "Cannot be disputed"....could convince "any reasonable mind". Who would question God's "channel of communication" with such "indisputable facts"?



There's too much information to be placed in this box, so here is a great site with full references:

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php
?
2011-12-12 05:04:20 UTC
All if them I think. Have they made any successful ones?
andre
2011-12-12 05:18:22 UTC
**snore**


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