Question:
Where can I find a reference to the date 607 BC as the date that Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians?
2010-07-08 01:07:46 UTC
In an on-line article from the watchtower we can read this apparently false date of the overthrow of Jerusalem.
http://www.watchtower.org/e/bh/appendix_10.htm

“How and when, though, did God’s rulership begin to be “trampled on by the nations”? This happened in 607 B.C.E. when Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians.”

The JWs arrive at this, their most important date “1914”, by using the date Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians and some very inventive mathematics. 1914 was to the end of the world, but when that didn’t happen they changed that to the date that Christ took His place on His throne invisibly.

I have done some investigation on the internet and can not find a reference anywhere to that date of 607 BC.

Where can I find a reference from an historian as to that being the correct date?

All the dates I can find show that the JWs have used the wrong date, could they be incorrect with the information they publish?

586 BC .After Judah again joins with Egypt against Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonians invade Jerusalem,destroy the Temple, and drive the population into exile in Babylon
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/israel/jerusalem-timeline.htm


589-7 Siege and fall of Jerusalem; second deportation July/August 587
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity

From the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple and the cessation of the Davidic monarchy in 586 B.C.E. through the decree permitting the exiled Judeans to return to Judah in 538,
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history/Ancient_and_Medieval_History/2500_BCE-539_BCE/Jerusalem_Destruction_and_Restoration.shtml

Babylonian Exile

Unlike the Assyrians, the Babylonians, in 586 B.C.E., succeeded to conquer Jerusalem. The Babylonians, led by Nebuchadnezzer, destroyed the Temple and exiled the Jews to Babylonia.
http://judaism.about.com/od/jerusalem/a/jerslm_jews.htm

Please help the JWs out and find a reference to agree with their published date of 607 BC, sorry, we have to take Christ out of it, therefore 607 B.C.E.
Seven answers:
troll to troll
2010-07-09 05:36:20 UTC
Only in Watch Tower material will anyone find 607 referenced as the date of the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple.



It may be of interest that the Babylonians did attack in 608/7 BC but the attack faltered. The Babylonians did take prisoners, slaves, hostages (which is captivity). Daniel is thought to be one of those taken as prisoner during this time. Another thought is that Daniel did return some seventy years later but only for a short time and returned to his home in Babylon.

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The only reason that the Watch Tower uses 607 B. C. E. is to force fit four verses eisegenically and unrelated. This is to justify 1914 as a date of importance.

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The Watch Tower uses B. C. E. which stands for Before Common Era.

Why?



The Watch Tower uses C. E. which stands for Common Era

Why?



Christians use B.C. and A.D. which stands for Before Christ and Anno Domini which means Year of our Lord respectively.
dreamer.rc42
2010-07-08 01:53:43 UTC
This site might be a place to start: http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/years.htm.

Or, http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm.



These were all generated by a google search and are just two of many others. The arguments presented in these two seemed reasonable and well stated. I'm not sure about the credibility of the historians or anything like that but they do include references that may be a good start for your own search.



Good Luck.
keiichi
2010-07-09 08:03:51 UTC
Question: Where can I find a reference to the date 607 BC as the date that Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians?



From the bible.



“Jerusalem will lie in ruins for seventy years.”



Secular chronology has only 587/586 to 537 = 50+/- years.

Where the bible chronology has 607 to 537 = 70 years.
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2016-10-18 07:49:05 UTC
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Giggity
2010-07-08 02:00:34 UTC
1914 still remains a very pivotal date in world history. You can either turn a blind eye or recognize where this world is heading and take positive action.



http://watchtower.org/e/bh/appendix_10.htm
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2010-07-08 01:10:29 UTC
google it



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MOORT00#
2010-07-08 01:10:07 UTC
Dont you mean BCE


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