Christians, are you aware that the Gentile Christians in the early church never kept the sabbath...?

Question

Christians, are you aware that the Gentile Christians in the early church never kept the sabbath...?

Answer 1

What are we doing now? Helping write another of your God rejecting books?



1.) Carefully read Hebrews 3 & 4, because of disobedience to the Sabbath the Israelites were punished and we are told not to follow that example.



http://www.cbcg.org/true_sabbath.pdf



http://www.coghomeschool.org/site/cog_ar…



2.) The resurrection was not on Sunday morning.



http://www.coghomeschool.org/site/cog_ar…



http://www.cbcg.org/passover.pdf



3.) If Jesus is the "Lord of the Sabbath" that means He is the Master of it, the OWNER of that time. It does not mean that He abolished or abrogated the Sabbath commandment. If that had been His intent or meaning then He would have been found a sinner for advocating the breaking of a Commandment of the Almighty and thus could not have been our Savior. Christ is the MASTER of that time period, it belongs to Him, why do you steal it, those of you who claim to work for Him?



4.) Yes they met daily and of one accord, but if they were treating each of those days as a Sabbath, who worked? Who fed them? Who earned the money they needed to survive? They met of one accord daily, yes, but did all of them meet or just the apostles? This statement does nothing to prove that they were not keeping the Sabbath.



5.) The Sabbath is a Law, a Commandment. Lawless folks will not find favor with God.



Matthew 5:19 Whoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say to you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.



Romans 6:3 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.



What about those who used to keep the Sabbath?



Hebrews 6:4 For how can those who abandon their faith be brought back to repent again? They were once in God's light; they tasted heaven's gift and received their share of the Holy Spirit; 5 they knew from experience that God's word is good, and they had felt the powers of the coming age. 6 And then they abandoned their faith! It is impossible to bring them back to repent again, because they are again crucifying the Son of God and exposing him to public shame. (GNB)



http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/NC/



Another falsehood from Hogie! "All mankind was not present when that covenant was ratified; only the Israelites and God. You cannot be held to the conditions of a covenant you are not a party to, and a covenant that ended."



a.) Exodus 12:37 The Israelites set out on foot from Rameses for Sukkoth. There were about 600,000 men, not counting women and children. 38 A large number of other people and many sheep, goats, and cattle also went with them.



Those other people who traveled with them were gentiles. If you were not an Israelite, then you were a gentile.



b.) The Sabbath commandment derives it's authority from the 7th day of creation which the Almighty established as the Sabbath, there were no Jews or Israelites at that time, just the ancestors of all mankind.



Exodus 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.



Edit: We could report you for your continued insults to each person who answers you truthfully. The beginning sentence of my post is a valid question given your own statements in your profile.



BTW, some of us have to work to make a living, very few realize that this is how you make your living.



It all boils down to this:



Ecclesiastes 12:13 This is the last word. All has been said. Have fear of God and keep his laws; because this is right for every man.





Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



According to the Christ, what will you be called in the Kingdom of Heaven?



1John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.



According to what the Almighty inspired John to write, who do you love?





While it is certainly true that there is absolutely nothing we can do to earn our salvation (Romans 6:23), it is also true that if we are not doing the things commanded us then we will not even be considered.



Lawkeeping will never save anyone, but lawbreaking will surely kill us (Romans 6:23).



Edit: Very soon I have to go and get ready to earn my living. A thing called a JOB, ever hear of those?



Edit: "I have been at my job here for over 3 hours now. Being management has its perks."



Ah, so now you are stealing from your employer as well as stealing God's time.



Isa 56:1-8 Thus says the LORD: "Keep justice, and do righteousness, for soon my salvation will come, and my deliverance be revealed. (2) Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who holds it fast, who keeps the Sabbath, not profaning it, and keeps his hand from doing any evil." (3) Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the LORD say, "The LORD will surely separate me from his people"; and let not the eunuch say, "Behold, I am a dry tree." (4) For thus says the LORD: "To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, (5) I will give in my house and within my walls a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off. (6) "And the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, to minister to him, to love the name of the LORD, and to be his servants, everyone who keeps the Sabbath and does not profane it, and holds fast my covenant-- (7) these I will bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer; their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples." (8) The Lord GOD, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, declares, "I will gather yet others to him besides those already gathered."

Answer 2

Hogie did you know that you are parroting lies? Flawed theology on your part. Early Christians continued in Sabbath Observance. Gentile Christians were Sabbath keepers.



Read: Acts 13:42



"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them next sabbath."



Acts 16:13



"and on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted there."





Acts 18:4



"And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks."



Note: It was Pauls custom to observe the Sabbath. Paul would also have access to the Synagogue on the Sabbath for religious instruction. In other words it is apparent that the apostle's work in the book of acts fully warrants us in believing that wherever he was, Paul utilized to the full every opportunity to pursue his gospel work on the Sabbath. The same is true, not only of the apostles, but most Christians during the first three centuries.

Answer 3

We have been told over and over again that the apostles and Gentiles did not keep the seventh day sabbath. Again and again we have been lied to by the so called great preachers of this world.



Act 13:15 And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.

Act 13:16 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.



Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.



Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.



Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.



Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.







Act 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.



Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:



Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,



Act 17:3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.



Act 17:4 And some of them believed, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and of the devout Gentiles a great multitude, and of the chief women not a few.



Act 17:17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout Gentiles, and in the market daily with them that met with him.



Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Gentiles.



Act 18:8 And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Gentiles hearing believed, and were baptized.







Not under the law?? just isn't so.



1tim.1:8



But we know that the law is good,

if a man use it lawfully;



Knowing this,

that the law is not made for a righteous man,



but for the ungodly and for sinners,



for the lawless and disobedient,



for unholy and profane,

for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,

for manslayers,

For whoremongers,



for them that defile themselves with mankind,



for menstealers,

for liars,

for perjured persons,



and if there be any other thing that is contrary to

sound doctrine;



According to the glorious gospel of the blessed

God,

it is not the Law that condemns you, it is your transgression of that Law.

Answer 4

"A fallacy is a misconception resulting from incorrect reasoning in logical argumentation."

-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy



Your reasoning is sorely flawed in that you misrepresent and twist the facts.



If early Gentile Christians did not keep the Sabbath, they why did the anti-christian Roman Catholic Church enact laws and have them enforced by the civil authorities in an attempt to keep Christians from observing God's Holy Sabbath?



THE COUNCIL OF LAODICEA IN PHRYGIA PACATIANA 364 A.D.

CANON XXIX

CHRISTIANS must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.

-- http://reluctant-messenger.com/council-of-laodicea.htm



Note, the canon is directed at Gentiles, not Jews!

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Answer 5

Hoagie,



You made a bold statement in your "question". This statement said that the early church did not observe the sabbath. However, you have not presented any facts to support you theory. It is just a blind statement. You have gone on an on and have brought accusation upon all sabbath keepers. Your own words condemn you. Who is the accuser of the brotheren? I believe that can be found in Revelations. There have been some that have given you sound doctrine straight from the bible. Yet you resist the truth. Many choose to reject God's word and belief another mans opinion. I urge you to consider what has been said by Lone_Range, BC, Ernie, and others and let God give you understanding.



We have seen this argument for many years. It is not the Jews law, It is not the Jew Holy Days (Feast Days). It was instituted by God himself. He being the author it is His Day or Days.



If God would have changed it He would have left a record of it. It would not have changed under Constantine a Roman Emperor during a time when pagan agreed t accept Christianity, but not willing to give up their customs.



Sunday was a day that pagan set aside to worship the sun. The tradition of sun rise service was actually part of that tradition. It is recorded that this was taking place in the early days too. It was left on record so that we would not make the same grave mistake.



Ezekiel 8:14-18

14Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.



15Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.



16And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.



17Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.



18Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.



How long will it be before you realize that God has a plan. God gave the Law. The law is good. The law wasn't just for the Jews. Remember the sabbath was created before man, before Israel. Jesus himself said that He is Lord of the Sabbath. If He is Lord of the Sabbath it is His day, (the Lord's Day).



You have a couple of choices. You can continue as you are now by rejecting God word or you can repent and walk in the Truth.



You can obey the Word or Disobey the Word. But God never changes His word.



The bible plainly state that the day would come when men would not hold fast to sound doctrine. Does your tradition make the Word of God of non effect? It stated that men would rather believe a lie than the truth. It also mentions that they worship the creature instead of the Creator.



I almost forgot your salvation by works comment. We all know that works do not save or bring salvation. But we also know that faith without works is dead. We know that we must work while it is day. We also know the Jesus said occupy until He comes. Occupy is the root word of occupation (work). We do not work to be saved, we work because we are saved.



By the way I am not a SDA or Armstongnist. I am a Christian attempting to adhere to the Word of God. I am a believer. I once was in darkness concerning the sabbath. Now mine eyes are open.





I thank you for this "question". I understand it was posted to bring accusation and debate. I like Paul rejoice as long as Jesus is being preached.



The church or synagogue was open everyday, not just on the sabbath as you suggested. There was a man whom was laid at the gate beautiful. He was laid there daily to beg for alms. This gate was the entry way to the synagogue. He would not have been there if the church wasn't open. You also have the scriptures that were given by the other posters that reminded us what took place in the Book of Acts. They Jews as well as Gentiles were there in the temple on many sabbath to hear the Word.



Please don't get caught up in being Jews. They were first called Hebrews, then Israelites, Then Jews, then Christians. We have learned that there will be no difference between the Jew and the Gentile.



God Bless with all thy getting get an understanding.

Answer 6

If Christians believe that Babylon (as mentioned in Revelation) represents a false church, then wouldn't a law they started be considered a false law? There are all kinds of references my friends here have made which completely support the doctrine of keeping God's Laws because we Love our Creator. We Love the One who said, "If you Love Me, keep My Commandments." God's Law is to be written on our hearts of flesh, and not merely confined to the stones written by God's finger on Sinai. It still amazes me that the majority of people who say they follow God refuse to remember, the one Commandment which begins with the word 'Remember...' I know what it means when Jesus said, "Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’" Was this spoken by a follower of Constantine? I say NOT...but it was spoken by the Man whom I choose to follow. I do not wish to practice lawlessness, therefore, I practice God's Law...because I Love God.

Answer 7

We are not required to observe the Sabbath for salvation.

We are required to obey God and His word in the light that He has given.

Light shines through the darkness, lies are darkness. Those who see Sabbath observance are in the light of Jesus Christ those whom can not see are in darkness to the word of God in regards to Sabbath observance. The same as some Sabbath keepers are in darkness to spiritual gifts and other. Matt13:38.

This in no way indicates that one who does not observe the Sabbath will not enter into the Kingdom of God and will be doomed for hell. Matt5:19

God blesses those whom obey His word and follow His directions in this life. God blesses those whom Do as He Wills, God's will is that we all (God's children) observe the Sabbath and we All will when we get to heaven.



Hogie, I believe is operating under his emotions of being hurt that have not been dealt with which in turn now has turned into anger toward God and His word of truth.

Anyone following his instructions to the end of time will also reap what they have sown. Matt 5:19



May God's Spirit lead us All into His truth and righteousness of His word.





EDIT:

QOUTE: You claim the sabbath never changed, and yet you don't keep the sabbath as prescribed by law. How does that work??? You claim you are to keep the sabbath and the law, yet you don't keep the sabbath and the law. How does that work???



Can we say, "hypocrite"?





**When the claim that the Sabbath has never changed is the Sabbath still exists today as God's Holy day as in the beginning. The change would be Jesus Christ kept the Sabbath as intended for today in the spirit of Love,Faith and Grace just as you Hogie are trying to get others to see and understand.



Can I/we say accuser of the brethren?

Trying to push leagalism upon us?



It's O.K. Hogie get it all out Come cry out to the Lord Jesus Christ that he may cleanse your soul and purify your heart.

Answer 8

EDIT>>>Why does someone who once followed truth fight against those who refuse to ignore the facts? The only thing I can think of is that Hogie never believed, or that Hogie indeed has serious anger issues. I know for a fact that when I read the entire Bible in context, there is not one place where it says that God's people are supposed to follow the traditions of man, and ignore God's Laws. In fact it says quite the opposite. If therefore God calls His people to be peculiar from the World point of view...at the time the Roman Church instituted the change of God's Law for a pagan tradition was it not for the purpose of becoming like the majority of Romans...pagan sun worshipers...instead of peculiar God worshipers? Therefore I say once again, the Devil speaks through Hogie.

Lone Ranger...AMEN!

Answer 9

Hogie:) Are you aware that Gentile Believers in the Synagogue always

kept the 7th Day Sabbath???????

Answer 10

Hogie you better read Acts again





Act 13:42 ¶ And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.





Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.





Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.





Act 13:45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.





Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.





Act 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, [saying], I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.





Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.





Act 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.

Answer 11

Sabbath keepers would want to resurrect us back to that which we died because they themselves haven't fully died yet! And if they haven't fully died then they haven't fully taken a hold of Christ Himself!



They are still holding onto the bits and pieces of the old ways and old nature and old laws. The flesh loves laws and rules. It not only gives it a sense of security but a sense of power. If I know the rules and think I can keep them, I feel good about myself. Dependence and need make the "old man" feel weak and ashamed. The old man believes he can still be like God and he'll go to God asking Him for the rules so he can prove to God, and especially to himself, that he wasn't as bad a chap as the cross declared he was.



Grace and freedom in Christ is incredibly scary to the old nature! I suppose God's grace is like a poison to the fleshly, sinful nature while at the same time it's living water to the New man. I think that's why so many worldly people are turned off by God's grace. To them it isn't a river of life but a river of death for it is by the Spirit the deeds of the flesh are put to death. Yet when one is born again what once tasted like poison suddenly becomes the life-giving sustenance one so desperately needed.



And after the switch and total abandonment to Christ and His work and His grace, to nibble on the old rules and "traditions made of men" is to eat spoiled, poisonous food. Such is disgusting and makes one want to vomit. No! We can't have both Christ and a bit of the laws of men. It's one or the other! That's why Paul went to prison. That's why he refused to tell the Judeaizers that Christ + circumcision was an o.k. theology.



Christ is the one we rest in now. Not a day of the week! The Sabbath of the New Covenant is a spiritual state of being, not a day of the week!

Answer 12

How and why would these so called "Christians" need to be freed from a Law they were never under since Christianity states the Law has always been for Israel alone? Christians in their doctrine relating to Israel were never under the Law to begin with therefore they have always had their "freedom" from that Law.



Though I actually partly agree with you on this question. It was the followers of the "Way" and those like Paul of the "Nazarenes" that believed in the Messiah of the NT writings and kept the Written Torah unlike the "Christians".



Acts 24:14 "But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law, and that is written in the Prophets;



Acts 24:5 "For we have found this man a real pest and a fellow who stirs up dissension among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes.





There aren't two different faiths for the "Jews" or "Gentiles" but one faith in Messiah, which is the faith in the written Torah Paul was preaching:



Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,



Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.



PAUL:

Rom 10:8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"-- that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,



THE TORAH:

Deu 30:14 "But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may observe it."

Answer 13

Where is it written that The Ten Commandments written by the finger of God in stone, a covenant between God and man forever, has been canceled??



The Sabbath, the 7th day of the creation week, the Sabbath was observed in the Garden of Eden..The Sabbath is observed all through Biblical history...Christ kept the Sabbath even in his death...IF you love me keep my commandments...and in Revelations it states that we shall observe the Sabbath in heaven....



So christians are not under the law/ are freed from the law(?)...



so some of the people follow the law while others are excluded from following the law..how does that work??



one group is free to kill, idolatry, dishonor their parents,steal, covet,lie,sleep with anything, eat anything, show up on a sun day or a wed or when ever for maybe 1 hr and recite a little meaningless prayer and they are "saved by grace" hallelujah!!



Sounds like a "holy ghost car wash" in one door and out the other by grace....







Christ in his humanity was our example and his life with us was under the law in everything thing that he said and did including the cross which he took for us.



Ignoring HIS SABBATH and HIS LAW is ignoring HIS salvation because you can not have one with out following the other.





The Sabbath has never changed; man has changed and distanced himself from God by claiming something else. Claiming your own garment, your own oil, your own bread, and yet demanding to be called by his name, when the bridegroom comes and he will know you not...

Answer 14

Satan rebelled in Heaven right?



If Satan Rebelled there must have been a law to rebel against right?





Jesus died for the TRANSGRESSION of the Law. If the Son of God died for the TRANSGRESSION of the Law it shows just how IMMUTABLE the Law is!



Jesus died because of Transgression, and you should be ashamed knowing so much about the Bible trying to push the fact that there is no law.



Romans 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbi: Yea we ESTABLISH the law."





We establsh the law through faith.



Revelation 14:12







You can give excuses why you won't obey God's law, but He still wrote it with His own finger an spoke it with His mouth,



Psalm 19:7 "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul"





James calles it the PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY!!! (James 2:25)









Sabbath at Creation (Genesis 2:2, 3)

Sabbath in Heaven (Isaiah 66:22, 23)





And Hogie you don't need to email me on this because we have beat this dog to death before.



Study the Bible.





Jesus died for transgression so we could freely transgress? There will always be a Law because God's words stand firm.

Answer 15

Good Mornin Hoagie, the Law stands forever and ever, it is kept throughout the NT and is referenced in Psalms, please Seek deeper into the Truth as God tells us all to do, or continue being decieved, I also would like to address the answerers who claim they do not worship the "day", where did you all come up with that, it clearly defines to Honor, Worship and Glorify God and to take rest,no buying/selling, nor work of any man/maidservants etc. it is the Sabbath, the 7th day that God deemed Holy, that He gave to us in Genesis, long before there were Jewish peoples, so your definition of the Sabbath is way off :-( I do not know if you of catholic faith or not, but if so, please ask your priest, he will tell you "why" the RCC changed God's Holy day to the 1st day of the week, the answer is also in your cathecism book :-) This may be where all your confusions stem from??? God Bless and Keep You

Answer 16

Gentile Christians were not very respected by the Israelites in early times until Jesus and his Disciples began spreading the Good News about all mankind being the same in his Father's Eyes.

Answer 17

I don't know where you are going with this and it appears that you are not willing to reason together to find common ground. Therefore, I will give you my take on the subject of the sabbath without any expectation of agreement.

It is true that the Israelites observed a sabbath day memorialized in the Mosaic Code in fine detail. This was merely canonizing what had been practiced since the days of Adam and Eve.

When Christ ministered among the people, they continued to observe the sabbath so as not to call attention to themselves needlessly. However, when Jesus was crucified and rose from the tomb on the first day of the week, it established a new sabbath other than the one practiced by the Jews of the day. When Christ appeared to his disciples/apostles, he did so on the first day of the week. Again, a week later, he appeared in the upper room on the first day of the week. Later, Paul cautioned Timothy not to let anyone criticize him on account of his sabbaths. There would be no reason for that caution if the sabbath were still the same. The fact is that the sabbath had changed, and thus room for the Jews to criticize.

Ever since, Christians have observed the sabbath day on the first day of the week, being what we call Sunday. In Spanish and Portuguese locations this is made more difficult because the word for Saturday and Sabbath is the same, Sabado. Nevertheless, we stop what we are doing for one day in seven to remember what the Lord has done for us, to meet together to strengthen each other and to partake of the sacrament of the Lord's supper.

So the concept of Sabbath is alive and well, but it is not the same as was originally observed by the Jews of old, or the Israelites that preceded them, or the Semitics before that, or the antediluvian peoples before that. So your original question about the gentiles not keeping the sabbath is both right and wrong. They did not keep the traditional sabbath but they did keep a new sabbath based upon a new culture and tradition.

Answer 18

I have seen people go as far as sit in a verse by verse study of John 5 and distract the whole fellowship as they worked up excuses why their new found Messianic Judaism requires all of us Christians to keep the sabbath.



Keeping a sabbath is an awesome thing if you want to do it. It can really make your life wonderful. Trying to throw millions of people under the bus because they don't keep it is no better the the Pharisee's that Jesus confronted.

Answer 19

It would be strange if Christians were not aware that new Gentile converts had never kept the Jewish sabbath - seeing as those converts were Gentiles and not Jews! Jesus, of course, kept the Jewish sabbath for he (and all the first discipls) were Jewish. They were all under the Jewish law covenant, so they observed the Jewish sabbath from 6 pm (sunset) on Friday nights. That answers the point as to why Jesus kept the sabbath.



Once the gospel was opened up to the Gentiles, a real problem arose. Jewish Christians were still trying to keep the traditional sabbath, yet more and more synagogues were being closed to them. Paul experienced that problem, as did all the disciples who used the synagogues to proclaim Christ. So when Gentile converts joined them, it was natural to make the first day of the week, early in the morning, a special time to gather and to remember Christ. After all, Christ had been resurrected on the first day of the week. They celebrated this. They knew Jesus had inaugurated the New Covenant by his death; they were no longer under the Law Covenant. It had served to lead them to the only one who had kept it perfectly. That is why Paul told Christians, both Jewish and Gentile, not to worry about observing special days or new moons, or sabbaths. They were free from legalistic observances!

Answer 20

I think the early Christians did keep the Sabbath but in a new way, and later on, on a new day. I don't think Christians did die to the law; Jesus said



"Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. He therefore that shall break one of these least commandments, and shall so teach men, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But he that shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."



But I think He was talking about the law of God - the ten commandments. Jews themselves recognise a difference between these and the law of Moses regarding how to keep the Sabbath.



EDIT: My Bible (Douay-Rheims) says:

For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members, to bring forth fruit unto death. "As long as it liveth"... or, as long as he liveth. But now we are loosed from the law of death, wherein we were detained; so that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. Romans 7:5-6



It would appear to me that St Paul is talking about the Law of nature when he talks about us being free from the Law here. Again Jews themselves make this distinction between the Law we are given to obey from God and the Laws of nature which sometimes work against us, for example here St Paul mentions Sins of the Flesh, like lust. We believe that by Jesus' merits we can be free of this law of our bodies, including the fact that our bodies die. We can rise again because Jesus rose again.

Answer 21

I am not sure I believe everything that you said but the majority I do. Where we disagree is that Jesus says that not one Jot or tiddler will ever fade from the law but the Law dose lead to death and conviction. Jesus did fulfill the law and stood in our place of punishment for our sins! 'We are freed from the Curse of the Law through Him and belief in Him and we are saved by His Grace extended by Him but The Law will stand and even in the millennial reign there will be animal Sacrifices to Him in His Temple!



I do not believe the Law is dead but through the Gift of Salvation we are freed from the Second death which is our punishment under the law.

Answer 22

Did you know there is not one verse in the bible that supports this lie you have been told?

Answer 23

Yes. Isn't it ironic that Jesus was accused by people of not keeping the Sabbath, and now we have the same accusation pointed at us?



-->Especially by those who could be described as Legalists?<---





The irony astounds me that people could miss something so obvious!

Answer 24

Some esteem one day above another, some esteem every day alike. Let every man be thoroughly convinced in his own mind.

Answer 25

I am aware of this. I am also aware of the fact that you can not find Rest in Jesus Christ if you are finding it in a day!

Answer 26

They met daily, and in one accord.

Answer 27

We worship Jesus only.



We do NOT worship a day!



Jesus is the REASON FOR the sabbath. as seen here:



Luke 6:5 (New International Version)



5Then Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."



Whatever day we worship is irrelevant!



It is WHO we worship that matters!

Answer 28

Christians do not know anything about their religion. They follow blindly and live badly.