Question:
If intelligent design is true, why is DNA copying imperfect?
grayure
2009-08-07 14:51:49 UTC
DNA replication is imperfect: each individual carries maybe 1% copying errors (can't remember the exact percentage) among their genes. If evolution does not occur and we are perfectly designed, why would this take place? It can cause congenital illnesses and terminal cancer, and takes place without any external influence.
Nineteen answers:
secretsauce
2009-08-07 18:45:18 UTC
For all those answering that SIN is the cause of all errors in DNA replication ...



I had a goldfish once with a tumor. What SIN did my goldfish (or its ancestors) commit? Or is it also being punished for the SINs of Adam?



How about a redwood tree?



Or orchids, or aphids, or sea anemones, or earthworms, or tardigrades or parrots, or shitake mushrooms or giant squids. They are all subject to mutations. They all have as much as 98% of their DNA full of accumulated non-coding DNA.



Why is a giant squid or a South American parrot or an aphid being punished for the Fall of Man?



Or when a bacterium in a waste pond in Japan undergoes a frameshift mutation that allows it to digest *nylon* ... is that mutation a result of SIN also?





I'm not just being facetious ... but you guys are MISSING THE POINT OF THE QUESTION.



When something like "Intelligent Design" claims to be a "science" ... but has to resort to answering question in terms of the wages of "SIN" ... that only shows how laughable it is to call it a "science."
jpopelish
2009-08-07 15:07:19 UTC
Most people do not realize that the DNA in the tissue of their left side is almost certainly different than the DNA on their right side, just from copying errors since they were a single cell. Then of course, there is cancer and other tumors, where the errors are significant enough that those cells cease to be team l players and launch out for their own purposes.



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Regards,



John Popelish
whitehorse456
2009-08-07 15:15:27 UTC
I think it is important to recognize that you are making several assumptions. For instance, you are assuming it appears that the most intelligent design possible would be one that would make humans as indestructable as possible without any form of decay or susceptibility to illness. But would that design fulfill the purpose of the Creator who created us?



Surely, God wants us to "prosper even as our souls prosper", but isn't life perhaps meant to be a reflection of spiritual truths ultimately to teach us about our souls and spiritual things? Have you not ever heard of anyone who has grown spiritually through a battle with cancer or by having a loved one experience cancer? (At the same time, I have heard of many healed miraculously of cancer through prayer).



The point is you can only truly asses an "intelligent design" once you understand the purpose for the creation to begin with. Everyone has a body that will pass away....but our souls are meant for eternity. And therefore an indestructable body would actually be a very unintelligent design.
Me
2009-08-08 02:20:40 UTC
A good attack on the piffle of creationism and ID. Like everything else, the reason DNA copying is imperfect is because it has a purely materialistic explanation and not a divine one.



Incidentally, any God who would be so petty and cruel as Jehovah isn't the sort of God whose love I want.



But there is no God. There's more chance that Elvis is working at a Wendys if you ask me.
Hippie Mama has pen, will travel
2009-08-07 18:58:08 UTC
Well, if DNA copying were perfect, evolution as we know it couldn't occur. So for someone who accepts evolution as well as ID it could be reasonable. But it does seem a roundabout way of doing it for an intelligent designer, doesn't it?
Questioner
2009-08-08 09:33:39 UTC
If you are truly interested in Intelligent Design and DNA (either for or against), you ought to get Dr. Stephen Meyer's new book: Signature In The Cell.

http://www.signatureinthecell.com/
2009-08-07 15:02:43 UTC
Intelligent design does not contradict mutations. Even though I do not hold to intelligent design.



"takes place without any external influence"



There is a growing body of science studying the influence of viruses on evolutionary mutations.



Google "retrotransposons"
wreaser2000
2009-08-07 15:02:15 UTC
intelligent design is pure gibberish to have a theory it must be able to be tested and if it happen about 6000 years ago we probably could but since the earth is 4.5 billions years old makes test the intelligent design impossible The lack of evidence to support it is immaterial
Santa In Your Panties
2009-08-07 14:56:23 UTC
Good question! Another should be the fact you can (in what you just explained) see a form of micro evolution at work. Which is that even over just a few generations DNA adapts to new environments in small ways.
Hermit Mom
2009-08-07 14:59:17 UTC
I don't see how u can say it takes place with no external influence we live in a polluted world. Who even knows what we are exposed to.
Exile
2009-08-07 15:02:11 UTC
DNA was perfect before the Fall.



Since then creeping corruption has affected all life. Every generation is weaker than the next.



Also - could YOU come up with a better system? Thought not.
manydifferentinterests
2009-08-07 15:01:23 UTC
So you think G-d wanted us to all look EXACTLY alike and be alike in every way?

Do you think G-d wants to build a clone army for the Galactic emperor?
ex arcam
2009-08-07 14:56:57 UTC
Because the designer is intelligent enough to prevent everything from being exactly the same.



You ever experience the difference between a live performance and a recording? Which is more thrilling? Which has more "errors?"
Miller _JA
2009-08-07 14:59:20 UTC
It would make it possible for us to get sick. At least, there's a logical explanation as to how that happens to us if the curse is not taken seriously.
maguyver727
2009-08-07 14:59:44 UTC
Don't you Guys (and Very Pretty Gal's!!! :)

GET IT???

Yet?



See, GOD Created----Perfectly..........!



Man and satan Messed-Up----EveryThing........!



(messed up DNA and EveryTHing Else), See?





So There! and Dit--------to!
?
2009-08-07 14:58:00 UTC
Because there is a sin nature, and every man is brutish in his knowledge.
Jalapinomex
2009-08-07 14:56:37 UTC
Once again the element we call SIN is left out of the equation here...once SIN was introduced into this World, then the element of chaos went into effect.
wefmeister
2009-08-07 14:57:40 UTC
Corruption entered the world through sin.
mg© - anti VT™ MG AM© Fundi4Life
2009-08-07 14:55:59 UTC
show me someone who can do a better job please.


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