Question:
Believers, do you really think scientists are searching for natural explanations for the origin of life and...?
2008-11-02 19:40:35 UTC
the universe so they can disprove your petty little religious beliefs?

Your god (whomever it may be) isn't even a blip on their radar screen.

Discovering the FACTS as to how life arose or how the universe came into existence would change civilization overnight and usher in a new way of scientific thinking for the entire world - something even most influential religions haven't achieved. Science is concerned with humanity, not stamping out religion. That's just an ancillary benefit.

Science, be it origins, evolution, whatever, isn't about disproving your particular god. It never has been. Nobody lamented the passing of Thor or Zeus when the true origin of thunder and lightning was discovered. Similarly, nobody will remember your god hundreds of years after these mysteries are solved. The demise of gods are just funny little footnotes that people forget over the span of time. Cultures once held Odin and Apollo in the same high regard as you hold your god. Where are they now? Heck, the stone temples outlasted the beliefs.
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ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT••
2008-11-02 19:44:24 UTC
I don't see why they think their myths are so special.



Science does its own thing. Religion isn't a part of it.
kevin
2016-05-25 14:59:04 UTC
Darwin did not include the origin of life in his theory of evolution and the origin of life is not part of the "modern synthesis" either. Any modern cell has about 3000 million years of evolution behind it. It will not be anything like the first stirrings of life on this planet. Even the cells that made up life in the so-called Cambrian explosion - which might be better called an expansion - had more than 2500 million years behind them too so probably looked not too different from the ones we see today. A modern cell is the smallest form of life according to a common idea of what life is, but that does not mean it has to be simple. The standard creationist yarn is that a protein having 100 amino acids length has some fiendishly small probability of forming at random. This is true, so far as it goes, as long as it has a very particular sequence of amino acids. What they don't tell you is what every protein chemist knows. Any protein chemist is aware that of those 100 amino acids, perhaps only 6, 12, 15 or so are in the active region(s) and the remaining 94, 88, 85 or whatever can be any amino acid at all so long as the result does not interfere with the active region. Even in the active region, it is possible to do conservative substitutions of one amino acid for another eg lysine for arginine or alanine for glycine and still find the protein functions either better or perhaps worse, but still functions If you cut the protein in two, in four, in 16 but preserve the end with the active region, you may find it still works. So although there is only one chance in a squillion of forming a particular protein, there may be half a squillion versions of it which do much the same job. And because of the degeneracy of the genetic code, there could be squillions versions of DNA sequences that will code for an effective version of the protein, at a conservative guess. There is nothing new about this, it has been known for the 15 years I have had anything to do with it and it goes back much further than that. Further, a good handful of mixed amino acids - say 120 grams will contain 6 times 10^23 individual molecules. If you polymerise these at random to a lengths of perhaps 40 amino acids you are utterly certain to obtain many proteins with important biological functions. So that rather puts the kibosh on their improbability arguments. If there are half a squillion versions of a protein that do a job, why is intelligent design" needed?
PROBLEM
2008-11-02 19:47:09 UTC
Science is not out to prove or disprove religion. It is not out to say which type of music, art or literature is "best". It is the study of our universe. It has no agenda. The moment a scientist uses science to push an agenda, he is no longer a good scientist.

To say that Thor or Zeus is no longer a valid belief system is very narrow minded. At least it is to the many people that still worship the ancient pantheons. They sill hold Odin, Apollo and many others in high esteem. Perhaps you might want to talk to some Pagans before you bury their gods?
JunseinaMakura
2008-11-02 19:59:09 UTC
The problem is, some people equate God with Zeus or the other guys of the pantheon.

Science try to ponder while religion has God confirming that He created everything.

Of course, scientists wont see the hand of God or the DNA of God's hand on creation, simply because they dont see God, they dont acknowledge God's existence, they accept God's invisibility as "God's non-existence.
2008-11-02 20:04:57 UTC
We know that science proves things about the physical world. God is not physical. Trying to prove or disprove His existance based solely on science is like trying to prove molecules exist by studying Betty Crocker.
Weise Ente
2008-11-02 19:50:55 UTC
Of course they do...well some do.



Creationism, specifically the young earth variety, requires that there is a massive conspiracy of virtually every scientist in the world to convince the everyone the Bible is wrong.



They are always fuzzy on the details on how this cabal works and why they would want to do it, but its existence is implied by every single one of their claims.
Dan
2008-11-02 19:44:31 UTC
No, I think scientists research the origin of life and stuff to figure out as much of the world as they can. They're just looking for truth because they don't like the explanation that the Bible gives.
just wondering
2008-11-02 22:04:23 UTC
You mention "discovering the FACTS"



Take it from one who has studied both sides of the question you ask. One side does have a lot of Facts to support it and the other has nothing but conjecture and hypothesis to prove it.



I personally believe the one with the facts.



Jesus is Lord
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2008-11-02 19:45:35 UTC
Here is some more silly stuff found in the Bible.



There are many prophesies in the Bible concerning the end times.

One needs to consider that it is written that these prophesies will occur within a relatively short common era of time thus compounding their validity. Additionally, things are prophesied that ancient peoples wouldn't even have thought of or would have any way of knowing. Below is short list of the end times prophesies;



* That mankind would greatly increase in knowledge in the last days.



* That mankind would travel to and fro far more in the last days.



* That the Jews would re-establish their homeland in the last days(Israel reformed in 1948).



* That man kinds 'chariots' would rush to and fro along the broad ways and be self illuminated and travel like lightning.



* That there would be increased natural disasters in diverse places.



* That there would be famines.



* That the Jews would again speak a common language (the Jews now speak the long dead Hebrew language).



* That Christianity would be spread to the ends of the earth.



* That there will be great distress at the end, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.



* The existence of a 200 million man army(China attained this capability in the 1960s).



* The Jews rebuilding of the Temple of God. The specific piece of ground needed is called "The Dome of the Rock" and is currently held by the Muslims.



* A red Heifer (cow) must be used in the purification in the end times. The first red Heifer born in 2,000 years was born on 1997 and another in 2004 in Israel.



* The return of the Ethiopian Jews to Israel was prophesied in Zephaniah 3:10. Between 1984 and 1999 some 38,000 and the last of the Ethiopian Jews were airlifted to Israel.



* That all nations of the world would have instant and live communication as they will see certain events in real time the world over.



* That the nature of people will change for the worse. They will be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents,

unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.



Again, the important thing to note is that these things will all happen in a common era. It is very easy to recognize the above events and their relatively recent connection to one another. There are things prophesied that simply weren't knowable at the time that they were written.
Kazoo M
2008-11-02 19:49:28 UTC
The scientific community better hurry up before they draw their last breath...



Once you give up the ghost it is all over.
Mary Magdalene is my mom
2008-11-03 21:42:13 UTC
Yes but for more meaningful reasons than what you mentioned.
Amalthea
2008-11-02 19:48:49 UTC
WOW! You sure set me straight.



Thank you for sharing.
2008-11-02 19:48:51 UTC
Some have this motive, others do not.
2008-11-02 19:47:56 UTC
Science answers the "how", only we can answer the "why".


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