How has Genetics "proven" Evolution?

Question

How has Genetics "proven" Evolution?

Answer 1

They may well be proof of common origin, but that common origin could just as easily be a common Creator.





I highly doubt it.

Answer 2

Perhaps a more comprehensive study of biology would help you to understand on what grounds a scientist makes the assertion that an observed phenomenon supports evolutionary theory.



Human Chromosome #2, for instance, is substantial evidence for man's evolution from lower apes if you consider just how many factors coincide with claims that could be made from the current evolutionary model.



Could it be evidence for a "Common designer"? Perhaps, but this leaves open far more questions than it does answers.



By the way, man's evolution was not the result of "blind" forces. You should know that all matter in the universe tends toward stability and that order CAN come from disorder if it is more energetically favorable.



EDIT: Occam's Razor states that among equal theories, the one that makes the fewest assumptions is the most likely to be true. When man was beginning to understand why planets revolve around the sun, he did not assume that they did so because spirits were responsible for it. Intelligent design starts with the assumption that there is a cosmic designer; evolution starts with that assumption that one is not necessary; which of these two theories are more in line with what in the past has been a successful method of reasoning?

Answer 3

I have never heard anybody say genetics effectively proves evolution. Sources please. Genetics doesn't prove evolution, but it provides pretty solid evidence that evolution can work.



For example. Humans and chimpanzees. If you take the full set of genomes from the two species, remove a specific pair of genomes, and give the rest to a geneticist, he would have a really hard time telling one set from the other because they're so similar! And yet they form two things so different from each other. This is evidence to support that humans and chimpanzees may have evolved from a common ancestor.



@Jill: "Read the bible to learn the science you need."

I've got some serious loling to do.

Answer 4

So an elephant popping or fading into existence because God caused it would be a more viable theory? If you had a time machine would you expect to witness this alleged historical event?

Answer 5

you'll believe what you want to... i highly doubt you have studied genetics outside of your creationist websites



research the dover court case involving intelligent design and evolution... fully and un-biased





none of us could change your stance, your too stuborn and willfully ignorant













tell us what you said about aborigines.... im australian, you cant even spell it properly

Answer 6

Can you address the specific point about the shared enzyme deficiency between man and primates which prevents them synthesising vitamin c. Not being able to synthesise vitamin c is virtually unique to primates and the faulty DNA that causes it is known to science. Something like that is very difficult for creationists to get around- it is very compelling evidence of a shared ancestry. I suspect you've gave me the thumbs down but what I really wanted was you to address the point.





Edit- Okay we'll dispense with the accusations of intellectual dishonesty although I do think you deliberately sidestepped the question. You have to be kidding on if you seriously believe you can so glibly dismiss the point I've made. No way can it be explained away so easily. Because the enzyme deficiency is UNIQUE to man and primates and because the DNA problem that causes it is well known it is very difficult to account for any other biological mechanism that could have caused it. I just don't understand what alternative theory there might be and surely even you need to concede that a shared ancestry between man and primates has to be the most credible explanation.

Answer 7

Genetics provides "evidence" to support evolution,... not "proof".



There is no evidence to support "Creationism."



It doesn't matter how much evidence the Theory of Evolution has,... it'll never be enough for people like you.



(or how little evidence creationism has, for that matter)





Edit:

"Creationism" is the very definition of "magic."

"HEY,... watch me pull a universe out of my HAT!!!"

And "intelligent design" is just repackaged creationism.



Your problem is that you don't understand science and the scientific method as well as you think you do.

So,... whatever.



Write your book.

I'm sure it will convince no one.

Answer 8

One author has compared it to a joke that is passed around various offices and copied on various copy machines. As each is copied, small marks peculiar to each copy machine are left. All will have the marks from the original copy machine and as each trail branches out, it will contain marks from the copy machines on its trail



By studying various small marks on the copies, one can tell which copy machines the trail went through. Genetics tells the same story - by studying non-functional gene copies one can tell where they came from.



Why would a deity insert non-functional copies of protein sequences in DNA? Genetics has a perfectly logical explanation for that, but why would a creator insert something that looked exactly like the result of evolution?

Answer 9

proof of Evolution is all around us , breading in dogs cats cows and all domestic animal change because we want them to, selective Evolution is breading so when something happens to a group of living things that kills of most of them the rest live and bread. but as far as humans coming for chimpanzees just no, chimps don't make weapons and kill each other

Answer 10

you can't prove a scientific theory proofs are in mathematics the theory of evolution explains the facts of evolution.

Evolution is not about the origins of life on Earth. Evolution is about the development of living things over time. The study of the origins of life is known as "abiogenesis" and any web search engine will find you many examples of current literature on the subject.

Answer 11

DNA is the basic building blocks of life so yes there would b similarities btwn species but it doesnt prove evolutionary processes r responsible 4 millions of species & reproductive systems (but we must also look @ my below points). No matter whats claimed theres 2 many hoops 2 jump thru 4 evolution 2 b classified as fact. The crux of the problem 4 many is man (having limited knowledge) tries 2 understand who God is by imposing human limitations 4 understand things 2 God's abilities. My points:



Many scientific finds r true but it doesnt mean "all" their claims r true (many dont take time & energy 2 carefully think thru things b4 coming out 4 or against it). Many dont properly take in2 account all it takes 2 create a universe/life (they tend 2 focus on things "seeming" 2 support what they want 2 &/or u 2 believe).



In science we established laws of physics. We can't see actual laws of physics. Rather, we see the results & interpret & apply them in accordance with whats been observed 2 b true thru experiments/calculations. Same is true regarding God. Just b/c we can't see God doesn't mean He doesnt exist.



There may b forensic evidence 4 some micro-adaptation & 4 some "appearance" of macro-evolution but most is inconclusive @ best & pure conjecture @ worst. Finding the beginning & reason 4 it all is unattainable by scientific method alone (a billions of years old cold case). We didnt see it take place.



But things in creation show an Intelligent Being was involved or the universe & we wouldnt b here (ignoring where it came from). Standing out r:



1. We have 2 lungs & 2 kidneys - each has a near perfect mirror-image companion organ. No matter how u try 2 explain it away, making a mirror-image organ takes full reverse engineering, knowledge & understanding of its companion's functions & purpose or it cant be created.



2. Our bodies r highly symmetrical from 1 side 2 the other. Its impossible unless 1 has an outside overview position allowing full comprehension of the entire organism (i.e. feather color patterns).



3. We have 2 arms & 2 legs. Each is perfectly designed & precisely engineered 2 work with its mirror-image companion. An outside position is required 2 fully comprehend the whole organism & purpose 4 all parts, 2 create it 2 such perfection.



4. The "being" of a cell is confined 2 within the cell membrane & cant know or b aware of much beyond itself. A cell is magnitudes more intelligent than all humanity & has amazing powers 2 know all of an organism's functions & purpose or it isnt the "brain" behind creation 4 many millions of incredibly diverse species. If evolution had a chance of being the source of creation it would require there only be 2 or 3 "kinds" of different bodies with several related species (it would take many billions of trillions of light years longer than the universe has existed 2 have the slightest chance of producing many millions of species of such incredible diversity).



5. Many cells of an organism never contact others much beyond its tiny cell. Mostly, cells & organisms r just copies of their parents doing about the same things as all ancestors. U wont find a bird whom builds a better nest than their parents & their chicks build even a better nest. U wont find a bear improving his living conditions (or passing them 2 his young). Either a cell has 2 lives - 1 copying their parents & 1 secret life working on improvements or someone of greater intelligence than all mankind created everything.



6. Others point 2 DNA (or RNA in the 1rst organisms). But a cell needs DNA 2 function & DNA cant function without a cell. So, we have a which came 1rst a cell or DNA problem. Without 1rst having great intelligence, full knowledge & understanding of how an organism is constructed it cant be created. If an ape finds a combination lock he wouldnt know what it was & even if he turns the dial over & over again he wouldnt know what he was doing & the chances against getting it right is astronimical - especially if it had 150 or more no. 2 find in the right order & even if he got that far he still wouldnt know what a lock is 4.



A cell has little "inteligence" & DNA is much more complex than a combination lock (especially in higher life forms) so the odds against figuring out & using DNA (in the correct sequence) is many magnitudes higher than 4 a lock). RNA/DNA r building blocks common to all life - having 98% of other species' DNA doesnt prove evolution. DNA like a computer code (but more complex) requires great intelligence 2 identify & assign its proper order - its useless unless u understand it. Give a book to an ape. Its useless to him as he cant learn from whats written - intelligence is required.



7. In the fossil record we dont find millions of trial & error organisms that should exist if natural selection or fittest survivor is the source of creation (no organisms existed be4). The odds r so great against near perfection happenning 4 many millions of greatly diverse species, it couldnt take place unless 1 had full knowledge & understanding of what theyre doing BEFORE millions of organisms could be created 2 such precision. If not true millions of misfit organisms with mistakes, having only 1 or 3 eyes in odd places, 1 leg growing out of a head or where an arm should be or a fin where a leg should be should exist. Millions more misfit fossils should exist than of the perfection found in nature.



8. U won't find species like a horse mating a goat, a frog mating fish, a rabbit mating an otter, a lizzard mating a bird, a cow mating a hog, etc. Species with similar genes/characteristics rarely mate in the wild. Only a few succeed @ bearing young. Its very rare that a wild crossbreed/hybrid reaches maturity or can bear over 1 litter (usually that litter cant produce or has complications that kills off the crossbreed). Only human intervention brings more success but even that has lead 2 some bad results.



9. Evolution processes being "the" source of all creation would be like having a blind man build a car he's never heard of, seen, touched, heard or rode in. It cant be done without 1rst teaching him about the functions, necessary parts & how 2 put it all together so the car will function.



10. Look @ the huge amount of intelligence, knowledge, understanding, time & energy used 2 create & improve an airplane's capabilities (& many mistakes). If people didnt fully learn what 2 do we'd still be earthbound.



11. Creation is astronomically more complex than an airplane. The more complex an organism, the greater the amount of intelligence, knowledge & understanding needed 2 create it. It can only be done by an Intelligent Designer who already fully understands what He's doing - the sheer complexity of man is evidence of God (airplanes show we're created in God's image - God had 2 be the source of all creation or it couldnt exist let alone evolve).



12. An incredibly Intelligent Being, capable of building a universe, would know the environment His earthly organisms are 2 occupy. So, He built in adaptability so His organisms could survive various earthly environments.



13. Earth happens to be in the best possible orbit 2 support life. It has the right amount of gravity, the right axis & rotation speed, the right atmosphere (& ozone layer) & needed amount of water. The moon's the right size & in the right orbit 2 provide tidal cycles needed by organisms. Just 1 or 2 relatively small variants in our orbit/envirnment & most likely life would be very different & higher forms of life wouldve died off in a relatively short time, if they couldve survived.



Yes, theres many religions, built on what man wants God 2 be like. I realized they cant all be right (Theres 1 Bible - why so many interpretations & fatal errors? II Pet 1:**19-21). Religion wont teach u much about God (they cant teach what they don't know) but God knows what He's doing.



Many miss this: Jesus is the only 1 in history whom stated He's "the" way, "the" truth & "the" life & no 1 gets 2 God w/o Him (Jn 14:6; 5:39; 10:1,7; Acts 4:12) & is the only 1 whom came from God. Its fully true or theres no truth & cant be any God (He knows what He's doing or He's not God).



Since Jesus is the only way 2 know God, "the" whole truth was complete & finished thru Jesus. So any claimed new or other religious beliefs or from self-proclaimed prophets & teachers r null & void & wont lead u 2 God. God always knew all Jesus was 2 do.



Whoever seeks Jesus with all his heart & soul will find our real God & His Kingdom (u will know the truth & it will set u free). But, why should God want u 2 live with Him forever if u dont want 2 know Him (reason 4 free will - Jn 1:12-13)? The truth of God remains forever unchanged while things of a man dies with him, including his religions/gods made in his image. Theres eternal hope only in Jesus Christ.



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Answer 12

In the natural sciences, there is no such thing as proof. Creationists exploit that is their campaign of deception.



Although there is no such thing as proof, there is little that can be stronger than independent confirmation. Genetics provides an independent confirmation of the relationships determined by anatomy. Since these differences are found in non-structural genes, as well as the structural genes, you cannot argue the anatomic differences are not independent. While you could argue for a common creator, there is no evidence, much less confirming evidence, but the common origin is demonstrated. Using the phrase "just as easily" does not make it true. Interjecting little phases is part of the systematic deception that characterizes the Creationist movement.



Classic Creationist deception package:

"Differences are found and Darwinists cry 'Proof of evolution!' "

Similarities are found and Darwinists cry 'Proof of evolution!' "



1) Straw man -- create a false argument to attack.

2) Weasel word -- cry. Demonstrate by sophisticated mathematical methods is more accurate.

3) Semantic -- proof, as above

4) Semantic -- Darwinism, ignores Wallace's simultaneous discovery or the contributions of hundreds of thousands of scientists since. An attempt to make it seem like one man's idea.

5) Splitting the issue -- what scientists find are patterns of similarities and differences which can be explained by observed phenomena; making it seems like sequencing doesn't find both at once is deceptive.



In 18 words, you have 5 unique deceptions and some were duplicated. You obviously see the evidence, since you are working like crazy to hide it in deceptive wording.

Answer 13

Evolution hasn't been "proven" per se. However, it is the theory that has the most proof backing it. For example, with genetics, we can see how each offspring generation differs slightly from it's parent. Take humans for example. According to evolution, Humans share a common ancestor with the ape. As you can see, we clearly have similarities. We have a common bone structure, our organs are nearly similar, and they are very social animals, much like we are. If you continued the generation down from that ancestor to the first "humans", we can see that there are different types of humans. For example, there were the homo erectus, the homo halibus, and of course, homo sapiens. As we get closer to our species, we find that we have features that are almost exactly identical to ours. Because we have found bones of such extinct species, we have proven to an extend that somewhere along the line, humans branched off into different species due to evolution.



According to evolution, we evolve via mutations. If a mutation is favored by the area that a species lives in, it will be the most likely to survive. This makes perfect sense, as we can see this process happening in viruses, bacteria, and others. In recent years, these diseases have evolved to adapt to our medicines. Because bacteria reproduce at such a fast rate, mutations are likely to occur. When a favorable mutation occurs, that strain is most likely to survive, thus it changes from it's previous generation. This is evolution that we can observe within our short lifespans.



As opposed to creationism and the bible, the bible has been disproven many times. For example, there is no proof that there was a large number of jewish slaves in egypt (for no bones have been found of these slaves). There is theoretically no way that noah could have stored billions of species on a single ship. Because creationism comes from the same book that these strange stories come from, it is quite easy to point creationism out as false.



"You rule God out of the equation a priori. "



I see you have posted this as well after my response. However, if we were to say that a God did create our universe, where did this God come from? He must have had an origin. A mighty God would not have appeared out of nothing. He too would have come from something.

Answer 14

Why would similarities point to a creator? Your point that paintings by Van Gogh has earmarks (a nice pun btw) that identify them as done by him, but we have so many different forms of life (reptiles, mammals, fish, plants etc) there must have been several different creators or painters to use your analogy.



As far as DNA similarities go, we know that genetic traits are passed down by an ancestor and are spread out in his or her descendants. So if there is genetic similarities, it's reasonable to assume they are related. If you want to assert that a supernatural being did it just for a laugh, then you are entitled to your opinion. Unfortunately science doesn't deal in the supernatural, just the natural, so your explanation for why we share common genetic traits doesn't make any sense except to a fundy.



I apologise if I sounded uncivil, but its true only religious fundamentalists consider ID with any seriousness. Not a fact of my making.



Just one last comment, I should have made my comments clearer, its reasonable to assume that species are related because of DNA similarities, but its not reasonable to assume they are created by a supernatural agency if there is a natural explanation already there. You have to discount the natural before assuming the supernatural, so it does count as proof I'm afraid.

Answer 15

The Young Age of the Earth

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1272542059740401469



The Origin of Man by Dr. Duane Gish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FZDysZKFQ



The Origins of Life

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3181822797567477581



Creation In The 21st Century From Where did these Layers Come (From) 1 of 3 (Global Flood)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZyoXQJ5Al0



Creation in the 21st Century - Overwhelming Evidence 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o226umqLdsU



Skull Fossils - As Empty as the Evolutionary Theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yu5jN897kM



Neanderthals - Smarter Then We Thought

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL636n3w2o



Dinosaurs: Those Terrible Lizards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvGByvp13Q



Our Solar System: Evidence For Creation

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2535369046252590943&ei=_aqlSOe3MYOm4QLPkeki&q=creation+evidence&hl=en



Birds and Flight: Evolved or Designed?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=Dr.%20Andy%20McInstosh&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

Answer 16

Genetics identifies the mechanics of inherited characteristics and mutation that are necessary to validate Darwin's original theory.



Combined with data from other sciences, genetics helps to confirm beyond doubt the fact of evolution.

Answer 17

Sorry, but you can you prove that DNA chains are not conclusive?

Since you are of faith, you ask for proof beyond science.

Try the other side, and present proof of Creation.

Answer 18

As you are discovering for yourself, there is absolutely no rational way to explain the theory of evolution...you basically check your brain at the door and blindly go on an imaginary missing link hunt. It certainly takes much more faith to believe in evolution than intelligent design which has tons of supporting evidence. God Bless

Answer 19

haleluyah!! you have shown me the light!

praise the almighty god and father in heaven whom i now passionately believe in after being persuaded by your infallible logic.



darwin?? may he rot in hell tormented by satans demons for clouding my mind with logic and reason for so long.



evolution?? what a load of crap when i now realise we have only been on earth for 4 and a half thousand years.

Answer 20

yeah i'm not much up on studying genotypes or phenotypes either

Answer 21

Thats the truth, evolutionists recognise that there is no proof for common descent. Its a theory or claim without proof. :)





more info to aid ur research:

http://seemyparadigm.webs.com/evolution.htm

http://www.harunyahya.com/evolution_specialpreface.php





peace

Answer 22

there is no proof of evolutionism

Answer 23

it hasn't



EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



HOW MANY TIME DO WE HAVE TO SAY THAT???



Geez grow up, and learn science. Read the bible to learn the science you need.