Question:
Proof That God Exists?
2016-03-19 22:42:11 UTC
I refuse to believe that there is such a thing as a God, because it doesn't make sense to me. Until someone give me ACTUAL PROOF that he exists, I'm going to continue being an Atheist.
Eighteen answers:
?
2016-03-19 23:19:37 UTC
I don't even need absolute proof. I'll settle for good, hard, evidence.



It should be the kind of evidence that it would take for believers to start believing any other god they were not raised to believe. It should be highly persuasive, measurable in some way, verifiable, reliable, explainable ONLY through the existence of not just a god, but their particular god, and this evidence should be testable and observable in some way, and hold up under such testing, again and again and again, without any failure--ever. AND, since it's an extraordinary claim, there should be multiple lines of such evidence meeting this same standard, and no evidence of equal or better quality that contradicts your claim.



This is not an unreasonable standard. Scientific theories such as Evolution by Natural Selection must meet this standard every day of every year.



And if an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good God, especially as described in the Bible, who answers prayers and intervenes in our lives and in nature existed, and such a god cared about whether or not people believed in him, then there WOULD definitely be evidence meeting this quality. Indeed, there would be no atheists, no apologists would be needed, and no Bible classes or books would ever be necessary--and even the bible itself would not be necessary, and there would be no factions, schisms, different contradictory doctrines, different competing interpretations, nor would there be any believers of other religions.



Yet even after over 2000 years of the best and brightest minds religion has ever produced, not a single one has ever been able to come even close to producing evidence of the quality I've described above.



Why is that, I wonder?



Hope this helps.
Robert
2016-03-19 23:50:30 UTC
You have the freedom to be an atheist. Just because you don't accept any proof given for the existence of God, things don't change. I am not interested in giving you a proof either. It is for you to find it. If you do, it is good for you. I experience God everyday in my life. God lives and reigns supreme whether you acknowledge this fact or not.
?
2016-03-20 02:57:11 UTC
The only way primitive religion exists today is through the child abuse of forcing it into very, very young children but thanks to better education and growing intellects so many teens are able to discover the truth, throw off the indoctrination and step into the real world!



So atheism is not a conscious decision or a belief but a realisation!



The first person to produce a single tiny little piece of verifiable evidence for any god will become world famous and mega rich!



Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.
Somedude
2016-03-19 23:07:14 UTC
Proof that God exist is simple: There is no proof God does not exist.
Tim in '66
2016-03-19 23:59:31 UTC
"Actual proof" of something in many cases depends upon an individual's ability/capacity to reason things through, all the more so when that "something" is invisible, don't you agree?



For example, there are many things where the cause is unseen, and all we have to go by for its existence is the effect it creates, true?



So I could say to you that God's original purpose was for humans to live unendingly in a paradise earth, and then point to the human brain as being an effect of that cause. How so?



Atheist and biochemist Isaac Asimov, who studied RNA, was quoted as saying, "the human brain could take in any load of learning and memory that we could ever put upon it, and a billion times more than that quantity too."



But perhaps Asimov was wrong. Perhaps our brain can take in "only" nine hundred and ninety nine million, nine hundred and ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine times more learning and memory.



Do you get the point? Right now our brains have the capacity to fulfill God's original purpose for obedient humans, and it is only due to inherited sin causing aging and death that prevents us from doing so.



Is that "actual proof" for you? Most likely it isn't, and yet you accept as "proof" many things that are unseen to you, do you not? And you do so for no other reason than the fact that someone you recognize as having authority says so.



But you don't recognize the Bible as an authority, so then, let me put this back onto you:



Assuming that, as an atheist, you believe in biological evolution, can you explain to me how it came about that the first caterpillar decided that it would like to become a beautiful butterfly, and how it managed to physically achieve such a mammoth transformation.



Please note, I am NOT asking you to explain what takes place biologically [caterpillar > chrysalis > butterfly].



I am asking you to explain how from an evolutionary theoretical viewpoint that it could happen.



I would be fascinated to hear your reasoning.
SeeTheLight
2016-03-19 22:58:19 UTC
I am sorry but you need to work on your own proof. God is first love God and He will make the first move. He needs you for nothing. He would love to have you but He needs you for nothing.

You can learn a lot about God from the Bible. However, you can read the Bible many times but if you do not have Holy Spirit guiding you then you will not understand what you are reading.

It is always wise to seek the truth. Christians believe Jesus is the truth.
?
2016-03-19 22:46:22 UTC
That's just as smart as accepting a theory that is right until other wise proven to be invalid. Its scientific not religious, and that is a better way of looking at things because we can all be alike in our beliefs if we simply weigh the evidence of suppositions. Such agreement, such science, is the way to our unity and peace as a race.
2016-03-19 22:47:57 UTC
Yeah, that's kinda the whole purpose of atheism, disbelieving in deities. Theists have never EVER been able to provide any evidence that gods exist, and I doubt they ever will.
LiquidSolace
2016-03-19 22:46:14 UTC
If you would REALLY and TRULY like proof, I'd like you to join my Online Bible Study group. There is SO MUCH PROOF of God in the Bible. We'll be going over all of this in my very informal group. Please message me here or write to me at john2029kjv at gmail (dot) com



EDIT: The Bible is the ONLY BOOK that contains 100% ACCURATE prophecy. No other religious text can say this. THAT in itself is PROOF.



If you choose to neglect the Bible as proof, then it's like saying, "Prove to me how a computer came into existence WITHOUT MAN as the designer or source."



There is SO MUCH SOLID PROOF of God in the Bible. It's there for ALL to see...with a good teacher to show them.



EDIT 2: I'm serious. If you would like PROOF, please contact me so we can go through it together. I would LOVE to reveal it to you. Whatever you do with it after that is up to you. But if you do truly want proof, you'll contact me. Your ETERNITY lies in the balance.
Archer
2016-03-19 23:02:48 UTC
There is no proof involved in a belief for it is just a belief.
?
2016-03-20 06:49:00 UTC
If you have the actual proof you won't be typing here.
Sati
2016-03-19 23:00:18 UTC
God is really nothing more than a conceptual label. God is a word that every human being can individually fill with personal meaning. For some, God is the "big guy in the sky." For others, God is nothing more than a fairytale. As for myself, I resonate with the words of Cynthia Bourgeault, in that God entails a more mystical quality of life. She states that “God is all over the place. . . . God is the web, the energy, the space, the light ... revealed in that singular, vast net of relationships that animates everything that is.”(1) We know that which is God, not in logical conceptual reasoning, but in feeling and experiencing God in ourselves, in others, and in all creation.



As the very first verse of the Tao Te Ching states: "The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The NAMELESS is the origin of Heaven and Earth.”(2) The original conception of Tao was simply the observation that reality has a certain way about it. This "way" encompasses all of existence: life, the universe — everything! Both concepts of God and Tao point to this "nameless" way that can be called by many names.



The word God is like a finger pointing to the moon. It is a tool of the conceptual mind to help us actualize that which is beyond our conceptual understanding. Father Thomas Keating writes about this fact as well, saying that "whatever we say about God is more unlike God than saying nothing. If we do say something, it can only be a pointer toward the Mystery that can never be articulated in words.”(3) God points to the ultimate truth of reality, to the divine nature of all created phenomena that is far beyond what our limited conceptual minds can possibly know.



I know the Bible is not physical proof of God, but it can be a tool that guides us to explore who or what God truly is. According to the Scriptures, God is . . .



Psalm 46:1 — “God is our refuge & strength”

Psalm 73:26 NRSV — “God is the strength of my heart"

** The two Hebrew words translated as "strength" are tsuwr and 'oz. Tsuwr literally means rock, as in a rock cliff, but metaphorically is means the rock of God. 'Oz implies that which is our personal strength. Thus God can be found wherever we personally find our strength in life.



Psalm 115:3 — “God is in the heavens”

** The Hebrew word translated as heavens is shamayim, defined as the visible heavens — sky, atmosphere, stars, visible universe, etc.; the abode of God.



John 4:24 — "God is Spirit"

** Spirit is the translation of the Greek word pneuma, which is defined as "the vital principal by which the body is animated", in other words the breath. God is the life giving air that we breath each and every moment.



Romans 14:17 — “God is . . . goodness and peace and joy in the Holy Sprit”

1 Corinthians 14:33 — “God is . . . peace”

** Peace is the translation of the Greek word eirēnē, "an internal sense of well-being". In the words of St. Paul, “God’s peace . . . exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds” (Phil 4:7). Even Paul recognized God’s ineffable nature that transcends all words and logical understanding. Yet, he still felt and knew the God that is profound peace and well-being.



1 John 1:5 — “God is light, and there is no darkness in him at all.”

** Phōs is the Greek word for light. It is a metaphor for the "Light of Christ" that dwells in all of us (Col 3:11). "God is light" reflects an OT background where "light" symbolizes both knowledge and purity; in other words, the light of wisdom. It points to perfect purity, the naturally luminous quality of our hearts and minds.



1 John 4:16 NRSV — "God is love, and those who abide in love abide in God, and God abides in them."

** Greek noun, agapē: affection, good will, love, benevolence. When feelings and sensations of love are present, then God is present. The more love that is present in the world, the more God will also be present with all of us.



IF WE KNOW STRENGTH IS REAL, BREATH IS REAL, PEACE IS REAL, WISDOM IS REAL, AND LOVE IS REAL -- then we know God is real. If anything, let us contemplate the following verse from Romans 1:20: "For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God."



I hope this is a valid answer to make you consider why some believe God is real. It is just a matter of how we decide to define God. Then to know God as God truly is, we must possess the ability to let go of those definitions and tune into the true "way" of existence. If we can do that, then we will feel and know that which can be called "God."



Thanks for the question. May God's strength, spirit, peace, light, and love be forever and always with you :)
David at Your Service
2016-03-19 22:47:02 UTC
Why do athee-evos constantly ask for others to waste time for their sake? (Is it some sort of narcissist thrill they enjoy?)



“... because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them. For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse” (Rom 1:19-20).



Knowledgeable Christians don’t waste time trying to convince others that God exists. It’s just way too obvious he exists. If even a child saw a neatly stacked bunch of rocks in the middle of the forest, he would naturally ask, “Who did this?” It’s simply way too obvious that something like that didn’t just happen by itself from random natural forces. And anyone who thought otherwise would be considered a fool. Similarly, when one looks at the inner workings of a cell (see vid below), it’s just way, way, way too obvious that something like that did not happen by itself, nor could ever happen by itself from accidental natural random forces of nature. And anyone who thinks otherwise ... well ... Psalms 14:1.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzcTgrxMzZk



This one is cool too (good part starts at 3:00).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCvkkDSfIU
?
2016-03-20 06:04:27 UTC
What is the point of the question?



you believe what you wanna believe and why you believe it



What do you care about what other people think about "evidence"?



Why would you want to go looking evidence to convince you are wrong? - thats stupid



If others try to convince you with what they think is evidence, you accept the evidence YOU think is acceptable not what THEY think is acceptable, if it aint acceptable to YOU then YOU reject it



thats all there is to it.
?
2016-03-19 22:46:31 UTC
The proof of the Creator is the CREATION. So, LOOK AROUND YOU, m'dear.





Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of sharing the glory of God. (Romans 5:2)



MARANATHA! Come, Lord Jesus, COME!
2016-03-20 02:11:37 UTC
Check it out



https://m.facebook.com/See-the-truth-1360742170618451/?ref=bookmarks
Gregory
2016-03-20 00:43:46 UTC
the proof is all around you
daicactus
2016-03-19 22:46:44 UTC
Fair enough.


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