Question:
Do you think that atheism makes sense?
anonymous
2010-01-17 12:55:54 UTC
i mean they claim God doesn't exist using theories...not facts...not even proven theories...theories that today are being questioned today..not proven..but being questioned...anyone can make up a theory ...thats why it is called a theory...

"hey mommy, look the big bang...booom...wow..."
58 answers:
Neal Caffrey
2010-01-17 14:04:03 UTC
If atheism was to make sense...then the whole world would have started to be atheist years ago...but atheism is new and for people that have lost all hope in Christianity.. it also people that have well off and rich enough not to really on divinity....sinice they are so rich they deny God because they think they are great themselves...
keith of keithZworld
2010-01-17 13:10:09 UTC
A theory in this sense is a fact, so epic fail on your part.



Theory:

a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.



In essence the theories that many atheists support are based on facts. Get it? No, sorry you are wrong they have been proven. Yes certain scientific theories are still questioned because new evidence is very often brought to the table. Unlike religion, science is questioned, so we can actually progress and move forward.



No, anyone cannot make up a theory, because everyone and anyone wouldn't all have the sufficient knowledge to base a theory from and that is not why it is called a theory you don't know what a theory is.



You haven't the slightest clue of what you are talking about, stop assuming and go educate yourself.



Oh and, FYI; being Atheist doesn't mean one has to accept or even acknowledge any scientific fact, it simply means a lack of a belief in a deity thats all.
Michelle B
2010-01-17 13:12:54 UTC
Look up the definition of "theory". It's almost exactly the same as a fact. Belief in a supernatural force is considered pseoudoscience because it cannot be tested in the natural world. If you can't do that, then you can never observe things, gather data, and form a theory. That's why scientists have a theory that God isn't real--because it's scientifically impossible to have a theory that says he is real.



Of course, if you are good at arguing, you can change someone's beliefs. Anyone can do that. But the point is, theism is SUPPOSED to be a faith-based thing, and you shouldn't try to prove it with science. That's why theism is a belief, not a fact or theory.



I'm a Christian, but I can't stand stupidity or ignorance, whether it comes from atheists or theists alike.
anonymous
2010-01-17 14:09:53 UTC
You miss the whole point. We who do not believe in your religion or your deities don't claim to know what created everything, we know your concept is just wrong since all religions practiced today were made up by men and embellished by men-- essentially old fairy tales that people buy into. No one knows what happened when the universe was created, yeah there are theories by they cannot be proved. But the mythologies that all religions put out about creation only focus on the earth being created, as the center of the universe-- which it isn't. Nearly all religions are man-focused as well, very clearly idolizing man as the master of all nature-- hence the "made in the image of god" concept. I don't claim your god or any god doesn't exist because of the big bang theory or any other fheory-- just the facts that all religions can be traced back in millenia unless they are new, as older myth and theories just borrowed and adopted. The jewish faith is easily traceable to many older religious tales or myths.. For example, the Noah/great flood story is around in several other much older civilizations. The story of Samson is a clear take-off of the myth of Hercules, and many religious scholars acknowledge that.
veryconcerned_person
2010-01-17 13:10:27 UTC
No, I don't think atheism makes sense. No scientist yet, knows what fundamentally is the difference between life & death. Whilst it is easy to kill (by boiling a potato or by slaughtering a sheep), scientists have no idea how to restore life to something that is completely dead; it's a secret known only to God. Equally, the 'big bang' is a theory that depends on matter seperating from anti-matter but isn't it easier & more realistic to believe in a Creator God?



As I look at nature (creation), I cannot possibly consider that it has arisen by chance. The trees, the eye, the mountans & the valleys clearly, in my opinion, had a Designer behind them. The fact that the horse & the camel are perfectly suited to carry humans; why would that be if they weren't designed for that purpose.



I have two university degrees in geology & I've worked for over 20 years as a professional geologist. The scientific world, in my opinion, fails to answer certain fundamental questions. As for other matters, WHY does Pythagoras theorum work? Why does Snell's law or Hooke's law work? I can only conclude that the guiding hand of God was there in the beginning to make science less complicated than it otherwise would have been.
It's him again
2010-01-17 13:11:50 UTC
Anyone can make up a theory? A theory has to fit the facts. There is no evidence for the existence of a god so that doesn't even qualify as a theory, merely as a hypothesis.
Josh - HTW
2010-01-17 13:03:35 UTC
Show me your proof in god and by the way the big bang theory is being proven? Our "theories" many of them have been proven we just don't use the word law because we come to understand better with time.



Besides you can't disprove a negative...



I claim your bible to be a book about how the world began and came to be thus your book is theory. Difference between your theory and ours is that ours has some proof behind it and we are finding more each day.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:07:28 UTC
But believing in God is no different. Its a belief; anyone can believe anything they want to.

The bible is telling us how to live OUR lives. But it was also written by people that hadn't hadn't lived. Meaning how would they know how to live if they haven't lived a whole life?

People grow up believing in God, because they think that they have to. If you think about it; as kids, some get punished for not believing.

But how can you force someone to believe in something that has NO proof at all?

Yeah there's the bible; but anyone could have written down some random words.

Think about it; there's scientific proof that the big bang happened. And there is absolutely no proof that God ever existed.

Although we can not be 100% sure about anything.

But seriously think about it.
anonymous
2010-01-17 14:33:18 UTC
Wow are you totally ignorant or just denying all the evidence?!!



Academia states that in the absence of proof of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable proof is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.



There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one!!! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!!



There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!



He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?



Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!



Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!!



At best he was an amalgam of those others!!



The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god!!! He also organized Christianity into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!!



Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?



What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Christian enemies - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!!!



The first person to provide a shred of verifiable evidence for God will become world famous and mega rich!! Ain't happened yet and it never will!!



So how does this primitive belief survive? The answer is simple and very down to Earth!!



Acceptance of a supernatural claim tends to promote cooperative social relationships. This communication demonstrates a willingness to accept, without skepticism, the influence of the speaker in a way similar to a child's acceptance of the influence of a parent. By encouraging this kind of behavior where the most intense social relationships occur it facilitates the lack of skepticism and deters more open minded thinking.



They are christian, Muslim or the other religions depending where they were born simply because they were indoctrinated by their parents as very young children. They will go on to indoctrinate their own children and those will go on to indoctrinate their grandchildren!!



Atheists have the intellect to see through the conditioning and escape into the real world!!



Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely.



Sadly Christians are still held firmly prisoner by the self perpetuating brainwashing!!



Do you not have the intellect to see the truth and escape?!!
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:00:48 UTC
Do you think that theism makes sense?



i mean you claim God exist from personal experience...not facts...not even proven theories...Personal that today is obsolete as evidence..not proven.. and only valid to the individual ...anyone can make up a theory ...that's why it is called a hypothesis...



"hey mommy, look the Rib Woman!... dirt man Wow!"
freedman
2016-09-28 19:34:06 UTC
No, I disagree. Yeah, faith enables some people conquer complicated cases, yet that would not recommend it relatively is this extremely useful subject for any damaging people. relatively, i could wager that an excellent variety of very damaging people have misplaced all faith in any variety of better means with the aid of suffering they pass by. by ways, nontheism is an umbrella time era for any ideology that rejects theism. it is not noticeably approximately spirituality or discipline. And mutually as you're able to be able to sense the want for spirituality and a disciplined existence, that would not recommend that anybody else does. i've got been getting by existence especially lots and not using a want for spirituality, and that i discipline myself according to my desires and those of folk around me.
anonymous
2010-01-17 14:50:29 UTC
You have a point..but then ..don't.

Yes, there is not proof that god doesn't exist, which in theory, gives us no right not to believe.

And like you said, in that way we have no proof what we say is facts or truth, if we have no proof.

But everything is as it is, and yes something may be there that we can't see. But after all the things done, it stands stronger and wiser that there is nothing. Even if we beg for something, need something, want to believe in something. But that something is there! That something is you! Your right there and that is proof enough. You have something true to believe in, hopeful something strong. And always beautiful and graceful. Something god-like.

So there's no point in arguing and dying and fighting for it....for the truth...when it's right there.



Theories can't always be truth, but facts can.
?
2010-01-17 13:26:25 UTC
It makes perfect sense not to accept a claim that lacks sufficient supporting evidence. Atheism does not "claim God doesn't exist" -- it simply does not accept the claim that one does.



And that's not even touching your utter failure to understand what a scientific theory is (I'll give you a hint: it's not a "guess," and no, not just anyone can "make one up"), or the fact that atheism is not contingent on or even related to scientific theories.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:03:27 UTC
do you know the scientific definition of theory.....no....well look it up that talk to me about using theories



also theory is kinda above fact i mean ive never heard of going to a class called "atomic fact" no its called "atomic theory" for a reason because a theory has been tested many times and has evidence supporting it



anyone can make a hypothesis but only smart people can make a theory
Dul
2010-01-17 13:01:06 UTC
No, a theory is a hypothesis that has been tested several times and compared to other hypotheses that try to explain the same phenomena.



Anyone can make up a hypothesis. To be upgraded to a theory, it must have a great deal of evidence behind it.



I think you should retake middle school science courses.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:05:38 UTC
Well, I kind of understand why someone would be an atheist. It doesn't really make sense to me, because God is so present in my life that it's kinda hard to imagine him not existing. But yeah, I sort of see where they are coming from. It's just a matter of opening your heart and not letting your ego take over. If more people would do that, I think believing in God would be easier.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:05:23 UTC
Atheism seems like a default state of mind to me...

Religion is a theory just like the Big Bang is a theory. Even gravity is still just a theory...



GodDidIt is not an explanation to anything.
Emily
2010-01-17 13:16:38 UTC
Why does everyone assume that Atheists believe in the big bang theory? They don't!



And do you honestly believe that Christianity makes sense? Open. Your. Eyes.
StandW2Fists
2010-01-17 13:06:49 UTC
In today's society, when seeking a true God is difficult, I comprehend why some would question the existence of God ... as a general society, we need to not permit molten, strange, weird gods, gods of political agenda, or such as those to place health burdens upon our bodies for the sake of a dollar to impede those trying to seek a true God.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:10:33 UTC
Atheism is correct. Here is their so called god, El of the Elohim. Plural. Chief god out of a pantheon of lesser gods. Very jealous. Had two wives, one of which Jerusalem is named after. Father of Baal, and 100% pagan in origin.



Here he is depicted on an ancient stone tablet sporting horns and an elaborate hat. I can see why they don't want any more graven images of their god, must be quite an embarrassment seeing as its more pagan than the pagan religions its systematical tried to destroy and vilify for millenia.



From my point of view what ever theists say, the complete opposite is true. :)



http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://members.tripod.com/~tohn/elohim.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tohn.tripod.com/original.html&usg=__Oj4ezt8II2KkggtF30u8tr359HY=&h=227&w=576&sz=40&hl=en&start=202&um=1&tbnid=OFuDwQvTxpp30M:&tbnh=53&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3DEl%2Bof%2Bthe%2Belohim%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D198%26um%3D1

http://northernway.org/fathergod.html



Practicing Shaman.... quantum physics rocks
GambitGrrl
2010-01-17 13:06:39 UTC
"anyone can make up a theory "



You mean like the existence of a god?
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:02:55 UTC
Do you know of Saint Thomas Aquinus? he used THEORIES that scientists accepted and said to be true to prove the existence of God, like The unmoved mover. What "facts" that are not theories or the bible or your minister can you use to prove or disprove the existance of God? STFU and read a god damn book.
?
2010-01-17 13:14:29 UTC
Kid... you don't mind if I call you 'kid', do you?



Kid, I don't believe in any breed of invisible-imaginary beings.

You know how you don't believe in goblin, gnome or elf, et al?

I use the same rationale on ALL teh 'gods' that have ever been invented.

Cool, huh?



Oh, and I didn't use any 'theories'.

I wonder if I got sucked in by Poe.

Meh...

~
Robert R
2010-01-17 13:04:39 UTC
No. Atheists claim God doesn't exist because there is no credible evidence for the existence of God.

You do understand that gravity is also a "theory", right? Yeah, no, you probably don't.
?
2010-01-17 13:08:01 UTC
Aren't all religions fact less? No one has solid proof of any religion. They may think they do but if no one else thinks it is proof it isn't. My religion had nil to none proof but that doesn't stop me from believing. At risk of sounding like a cheesy movie all that matters is if you believe and what proof you have is in your heart.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:06:18 UTC
All the people who came up with theories ...they have come and gone... only thing will last for ever is God and his Kingdom...try all theories....at the end if you do not have peace and answers to your problems and your families problem...try him...you will know what I mean..
opinionatedlilbugger
2010-01-17 13:00:33 UTC
I urge you to look up the definition of 'scientific theory'.



Aside from that, gods are just unscientific theories anyway. A "fill in the gaps" for things people didn't understand.
?
2010-01-17 13:07:03 UTC
Do you think not believing in Zeus makes sense? Does it "make sense" to not believe in Thor, Hera, Tiamat, Mithra, Quetzecoatl, Athena...? Do you think YOU are foolish for not believing in the MILLIONS of gods and goddesses your fellow humans believe/d in? Are YOU foolish for not believing in Vishnu, Krishna, Allah? Are 2/3 of the human population who are not atheist foolish for not believing in the same deity YOU believe in or are YOU foolish for not believing in theirs?



Does it make any sense whatsoever for a human being to not believe in something for which there is no evidence? Or shall we all believe in leprechauns, cyclops, gorgons, centaurs, griffins, fairies, etc., since there is just as much proof of their existence as there is for any and all gods humans believe in or have believed in.



~Ex-Christian.
Confuzzled
2010-01-17 13:05:53 UTC
Everything related to spirituality is a "theory". That is why a synonym for "religion" is "faith".



Atheism is just another religion. Whatever we believe in, we must have faith in it.



And in my opinion, no one will know the truth until after death.
The Lord of Dreams
2010-01-17 13:05:11 UTC
Turn around every way, looking back another day

The race is on, I'm out to win, before I start I must begin



Here we go round in circles to nowhere

Mulberry bush just won't let me see

If I am lonely when I arrive there

Mulberry bush, will you shelter me when I am naked and cold?

Yet no one must see, oh they're looking at me

When I am straight I feel that my world is real



With people running round and round, bringing one another down

People running round and round, bringing one another down



Here we go round, I'm looking for someone

Mulberry bush is calling to me

Red lights and green ones, I can't be nervous

Mulberry bush, your bright eyes I see



Here we go round in circle to nowhere

Mulberry bush just won't let me see

If I am lonely when I arrive there

Mulberry bush, will you shelter me?



~ Steve Winwood
jupiter FIVE
2010-01-17 13:00:21 UTC
"anyone can make up a theory" -- true. Which is exactly what you're doing with your theory of god.



Atheism is the only thing that makes sense.



@ Righteousness, cover the Earth



Christianity:

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.



Makes total sense...
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:05:53 UTC
Of course it makes sense.



Hey mommy look, God turns other mommies into pillars of salt so her daughters can get their father drunk and rape him.
interested1208
2010-01-17 13:01:24 UTC
To me, yes it does..



BTW, what has the big bang have to do with atheism?



Atheism = No gods, says nothing about anything else...
?
2010-01-17 14:34:09 UTC
Atheism makes a heck of a lot more sense than that collection of words you have just typed out.



What exactly are you on about??
?
2010-01-17 13:08:08 UTC
yes

i dont claim anything

i state a fact, there is no evidence of any gods existence

you may not like that fact, but its a fact none the less, sorry
anonymous
2010-01-17 12:59:50 UTC
i could copy and past your text up there and add the world "christianity" instead...





here you go:



i mean they claim science doesn't exist using theories...not facts...not even proven theories...theories that today are being questioned today..not proven..but being questioned...anyone can make up a theory ...thats why it is called a theory...



"hey mommy, look the bible...wow..."
Godboy
2010-01-17 13:04:36 UTC
I can't tell which side you're on. Atheism makes sense to them, but God cannot be confined by logic and factual understanding. He is the love that dwells within the hearts of mankind
Militant Atheist
2010-01-17 13:01:30 UTC
I use to think it was funny when atheist pretended to be Christians and said stupid stuff to make Christians look bad now I'm kind of over it.
Jeff B
2010-01-17 13:00:43 UTC
No, you are wrong. Atheism doesn't pose anything except to say, there is no proof that God exists, so there is no reason to believe he does.
ALIENS
2010-01-17 13:01:04 UTC
It makes a lot of sense. And maybe you should get a better understanding of our stance before you attack us.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:01:23 UTC
amusing.



if only you knew what a scientific theory is.
?
2010-01-17 13:02:18 UTC
Is this really the best we can do on a Sunday afternoon?
Γνῶθι σεαυτόν
2010-01-17 13:10:56 UTC
another pat on the head for you.
Vlad III the Impaler
2010-01-17 13:12:07 UTC
do YOU think?



and it was The Spencer Davis Group!
Roger the Solemn Fish
2010-01-17 12:59:32 UTC
Crafty Level 1 troll is crafty, but still Level 1.
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:01:33 UTC
oh and god has been proven? when did that happen?
M S
2010-01-17 13:09:40 UTC
peace

the truth has been my aim,

I like to talk about it
Rocko
2010-01-17 13:15:01 UTC
Lol, very cute!
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:00:21 UTC
Crafty.

Semi-Truthful.

Completely failing when it comes to grammar.
Demi
2010-01-17 13:00:56 UTC
*pats obviously home schooled troll on head*



They're so cute when they're little, aren't they?
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:01:25 UTC
@ Rogelio teh Scary Feesh:



Douche is still a douche, and you're still a level 5 douche...
Gregory
2010-01-17 13:01:24 UTC
no but to them it some how does
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:00:51 UTC
Peace,



Did anyone ask what Darwin was licking?
Captain Atheist
2010-01-17 13:05:09 UTC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Loser



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:02:39 UTC
you must be blonde . . .
anonymous
2010-01-17 13:00:22 UTC
It's just another religion
?
2010-01-17 12:59:23 UTC
lol cute!
Righteousness, cover the Earth
2010-01-17 12:59:54 UTC
Atheism:



The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.



Makes total sense...


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