Question:
Why don't Protestants stop criticizing Catholics for taking things out of the Bible?
Skeptic
2011-10-18 15:51:05 UTC
Protestants always say Catholics take out the second commandment when actually we just combine it with the first commandment. What part of that is so hard to understand? Why don't they actually just look it up?

I would like to hear an atheist, objective view on protestants. Do not ALL protestants today follow a man that LITERALLY did take out books of the bible? Have they not heard about Luther?

So why are Protestants hypocrites? They claim Catholics take out of the Bible, but yet their original leader actually did it.
Fifteen answers:
cristoiglesia
2011-10-18 17:11:59 UTC
You expect too much. If they knew the Bible and the history of the Church they would be Catholic Christians and not members of one of the 30,000+ Protestant sects. God bless!



In Christ

Fr. Joseph
Mark
2011-10-18 16:12:24 UTC
Since you would like to hear (read) an atheist, I have decided to jot down something. Yes, I am an atheist.



"Do not ALL protestants today follow a man that LITERALLY did take out books of the bible"



Well, many flavours of protestantism may base their bible study on texts that were chopped up a bit by Luther. But don't forget that Luther's opinion was not the ONLY source for bible translators after his time.



Also, it is worth remembering the question: Who decided what books went into the catholic bible? There were a large number of apparently christian texts floating around at the time (only three hundred or so years after the "time of christ") when the catholic bible was assembled. The authorities met (I think it was at the council of Nicea) and debated what should go in and what shouldn't. They arrived at a decision, either by debate or scholarly study. Believers will assert that their decision was divinely guided. Some books were left out - the gospel of Thomas, the "gnostic" gospels, etc. These texts languished in obscure libraries waiting to be rediscovered in the future, but come what may, they were declared as being "out".



After this point, anyone who agreed was a true catholic, anyone else was a heretic. Some unfortunates met with the sword for that; or at least excommunication.



So the inevitable fact is that ALL catholics follow a bible with books taken out, just much earlier than Luther did it.



catholic believers will state that this was a correct process and produced a "true" book. However, this is only an article of belief. Similarly, followers of Luther's version (or other versions that are dissimilar to the catholic variant) will state that THEIR version is "true", and it is just an article of belief for them too.



Both sides can accuse the other of hypocrisy.



There'as an atheist's "view".



Anyway, if you are a catholic, you surely believe that protestants are wrong on a number of issues of doctrine or practice, don't you? What is special about this one?
Hogie
2011-10-19 06:06:12 UTC
What Luther did is immaterial. You are using him as a straw-man argument.



What the Catholic church does or does not do cannot ever be justified by claiming Luther did anything similar. All that means is that Luther would receive the same penalty.



The main point Luther was making with the Catholic church is the one thing the Catholic church has never owned up to, and has dodged at every turn: Salvation through faith only in Christ.



This is the gospel. The Catholic church has rejected the gospel of Scripture, adopting another gospel that places the Catholic church on par with God as a savior.



Is there salvation in believing a false gospel?



Can the Catholic church truly save people? Does God need the Catholic church's permission to save non-Catholics?



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Meredith
2011-10-18 15:54:45 UTC
One day you should visit the Vatican, because the catholics historically documented this. They admitted that they took out things, and added things to the bible. Their excuse was "God told us we could." Now, the bible states that anybody who adds things or takes things away from the bible will never go to heaven. Therefore, I think I am going to believe God over some sinful church.



Second, Luther did not take books out of the bible. He removed non-biblical books that catholics added in attempt to try and return the bible to its original form. If you look into history you would realize that the Catholic books were nothing more than Jewish Lore. Even the jews didn't believe them. The only reason they were added in was because they were a popular read at the time.



@Cristoig,



Actually, there are not 30,000 protestant sects and they are not even considered 'sects' in theology. You, being a priest, should know that. THeologist agree that there are only a few major protestant denominations and that the rest are cults. And no, a protestant is not simply a non-catholic. Theologists have never agreed with this.
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2016-10-03 03:06:40 UTC
First, enable me factor out that i'm a Protestant, no longer a Catholic. even although this is basically trouble-free to admit that the label "Apocrypha" (which somewhat ability "hidden") is a sprint stretch while utilized to those books. that they have been component to the Christian Bible from the 1st century, because of the fact Christians in the main trusted the Greek translation of Hebrew scripture (the Septuagint) produced in Alexandria a pair centuries earlier Christ, and it blanketed them. the 1st-century writers of the recent testomony quoted the Septuagint. It grew to become into their reference for Hebrew scripture, and it blanketed those books. The Orthodox and Catholic church homes call them "deuterocanonical"; this attractiveness that they have got been a separate "2nd canon" meditated the undeniable fact that the Jews no longer regarded them--normally because of the fact the Hebrew originals have been lost. Protestants chosen to leave them out of their formal canon, and that that they had solid reason: for one factor, in assessment to Catholics, Protestants wanted all believers to income the Bible, and printing with movable style grew to become into purely making that possible. scaling down the quantity of fabric grew to become into economically a solid theory. And it grew to become right into a solid theory; they do no longer seem to be of fairly the comparable high quality or usefulness because of the fact the conventional Hebrew scripture. however the alternative to bypass over them grew to become right into a clean theory, originating with Protestants. For the 1st millennium and a a million/2 of Christian historic previous, they have been component to all Christian Bibles.
2011-10-18 16:25:07 UTC
Yes the catholic church combine the second commandment with the first commandment. But they NEVER quote the second command when they are quoting the first commandment.



Interesting that the catholics claim to have the second commandment but yet they still pray in front of statues of mary.



Prove catholics don't pray to statues. I was born and raised a catholic and over many years i saw catholics in front of statue of mary saying the rosary. Who should i believe? You or my eyes? To answer the question i believe what i see and not what you say.
Reaper
2011-10-18 15:57:33 UTC
No, Protestant does not refer to Lutheranism, it refers to any non-Catholic sect of Christianity. If you're having religious conflicts, blames John Calvin who inspired the Calvinists, Huguenots, Puritans and Presbyterians which are the most extreme and idiotic sects.



Also steadfast, that doesn't matter anyways. The first four gospels were directly plagiarized from older Buddhist texts.
lazybones
2011-10-18 16:03:54 UTC
My goodness! I never knew ignorance was so rife! (not you...the answers)



"We" didn't combine it (the first) with the second; 1 is still 1 and 2 is still 2. Always was, always will be.



Don't be too hard on your family; when I first read scriptures, it seemed to me that the RCC was doing exactly what was forbidden by the same scriptures.
Jim
2011-10-18 16:04:35 UTC
I am looking right at it. Catholics are guilty of making graven images and in #3 bowing down to them. So what is your point? You need to do a little research on The Roman Church. If it hadn't been for Martin Luther, you wouldn't have a bible to read, not to mention what happened to the other 9 million christians slaughtered during the "church's" inquisitions. Do your homework, then we can talk.
2011-10-18 15:52:43 UTC
i've never heard that

i guess they're just dumb

that's true of a lot of protestants actually
seveneleven2411
2011-10-18 15:52:48 UTC
I don't get why there are so many types of Christians, there's just one God...
the Christian
2011-10-18 15:56:05 UTC
Most catholic I believe are headed for hell...unless they get jesus christ, he is the only that is going to save them....not or picture or image of someone name marry. No hope without jesus.







God loves you.....
Steadfast
2011-10-18 15:53:15 UTC
take out!!!



the catholic bible only consisted of 4 books until the printing press was invented.
Joe S
2011-10-18 15:53:30 UTC
Catholicism doesn't follow the Bible.



That's easily proved.
2011-10-18 15:55:19 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6A-ucLv44Y&feature=related

this is why.


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