Question:
What are some Bible scriptures that either support or disprove the Book of Mormon?
Lady
2013-11-15 11:45:31 UTC
Answers from Mormons, non-Mormons, atheists, Buddhists, or whatever are all appreciated.

Thank you :)
Nineteen answers:
Moi
2013-11-15 13:54:26 UTC
Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.



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2013-11-15 18:03:28 UTC
From Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 21:22 the bible disproves the BoM. The BoM offers nothing of the Gospel that the bible doesn't already have---unaltered.



From Joseph Smith's teen years to dying screaming in terror, his own life disproves the BoM. He had to rewrite the bible in order for it to agree with what he made up. He never finished it, despite his claim that "God commanded him to". Since when does God ever put forth a given and it not happen?



The only verses in the bible that disproves the BoM and at the same time supports what Joseph Smith imagined are Galatians 1:8, 2 Corinthians 11:13- 15, and 2 Timothy 3:5a. Does anyone see that these prophetic warning verses exactly describe Joseph Smith's "vision" and his subsequent false church? What? Does God have to paint mormons a picture for them to realize what He's yelling? Sheesh.
rrosskopf
2013-11-15 21:34:46 UTC
One of the more remarkable Biblical tales is of the wise men from the east who come to see the new born messiah. Who were they and how did they know about Jesus's birth? They brought gold, frankincense and myrrh. Frankincense and myrrh are byproducts of trees that grow along the shores of southern Arabia. Is it a coincidence that Lehi knew of the exact year of the savior's birth and followed the Frankincense trail down to the southern shores, where he built a ship? Not long after this, the Dedanites, who profited from the sale of the spices, changed their name to Lehyites or Lehi-ites. I believe Lehi taught them of the coming messiah, and that they faithfully watched the stars so that they would know when the time had come.



The main message of the Bible is that God sends prophets, and that the Israelites are God's chosen people. There is no reason at all why God couldn't lead a branch of Israelites off to some new land where they would enjoy their own prophets.



Did the Gospel of Jesus Christ originate with the mortal messiah? It did not. There are a few mentions of the Son of God in the Old Testament. According to Margaret Barker, a Methodist seminarian, the gospel of Jesus Christ, aka the Gospel of the Son of God, was taught long before Christ, during the 1st Temple period. The brazen serpent, used by Moses to cure the Israelites, was viewed as a type of Christ. Nothing reveals this tradition better than the Book of Mormon. It is completely compatible with the 1st Temple period traditions. Neither Joseph Smith nor anyone else from his day could have known.



The idea that prophecies always come to pass is a false idea.. Jonah is the best example of this, although I could point out many others. Most prophecies are contingent upon something. In the case of Jonah, the prophecy was contingent upon Ninevah's continued wickedness. Deuteronomy 18:24 states that prophets do sometimes speak presumptuously, that is to say that they make prophecies based on their limited understanding. The real question is not whether their prophecies come to pass, but whether they have been called of God. There is every indication that Joseph Smith had been called of God. Not only had he seen many visions, but those around him saw some of the visions as well. He healed the sick and the lame. He cast out devils in the name of Jesus Christ. He made many of the most elaborate prophecies ever recorded, and they were fulfilled to the letter. He was kind to his enemies, and returned hate with love. His home was always open to the poor, and the homeless families that immigrated to Zion. The man was amazingly unflappable. After being tarred and feathered, and having stayed up all night plucking tar from his skin, he gave a loving and spiritual sermon and baptized several people, while some of his attackers were in the audience.
Yun
2013-11-15 11:47:38 UTC
There are a lot that disprove the Book of Mormon, but I'll just give you the easiest.



Deuteronomy 18:22

"When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."



Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormons, made repeated prophesies that didn't come true. That being the case, he wasn't a prophet of God. So, the books that he wrote, claiming to be revelation from God, are nothing more than a long con.

1. Prophesy of the coming of Christ within 56 years... which would have been 1891, didn't happen.

2. The building of the Mormon temple in Missouri would happen in that generation... the Mormons were forced out of Missouri entirely and never built a temple there.

3. The Civil War would turn into a World War (D&C 87:1-3)... didn't happen.
cursed lamanite
2013-11-15 22:11:21 UTC
one of my favor is Matthew 22;23-33 Jesus talks about the resurrection One says that a widow was married seven times to different brothers. At the resurrection who's wife will she be? Jesus replies that you are not marry nor given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven.



This disproves the Mormon temple marriage of being married with your spouse in heaven the mormon believe that if you don't have a mormon temple marriage you will never see your family again in heaven is none sense and false. You will see your family in heaven and the mormon temple marriage is invalid.



Mormonism is false.
2013-11-15 15:57:52 UTC
Unlike the Bible, there are no manuscripts or ancient writings or gold plates to support anything in the Book of Mormon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript



The LDS church claims that the Book of Mormon was translated by Joseph Smith from an ancient record. "The prophets in the Book of Mormon recorded God's dealings with His people, which were compiled by a prophet named Mormon onto gold plates."

http://mormon.org/beliefs/book-of-mormon



There is no evidence to support claims that the Book of Mormon was compiled from ancient manuscripts and there is no archaeological or genetic evidence to support the teachings in the Book of Mormon of migrations from the Near East to America in biblical times. There is no evidence of any influence from Old World civilizations in ancient America.

http://apps.ohiohistory.org/ohioarchaeology/statement-about-the-lost-civilizations-of-north-america-dvd/



The kinds of "evidences" that Mobro and other Mormons try to present are nothing more than known hoaxes. The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is a fake.

http://books.google.com/books?id=xmDnhPNLwYwC&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=false#v=onepage&q&f=false



The Bat Creek Stone is likewise nothing more than a fraudulent artifact.

http://ramtops.co.uk/bat2.html
NEVER SUBMIT... to evil
2013-11-15 12:02:53 UTC
John 19:30... When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.



by that he meant both his mortal life and his ministry.... the ministry of Jesus was The Word and Will of God.... no more has been, or will be, added to God's Word and Will for man-kind... not until Christ returns to this Earth at the end of the time know as The Tribulation.....



The rest of the story would not fit into the space allowed by YA........







I came to see the deceptions of mormonism 30 years before I came to know The Truth of God's Word and Will for man-kind.... so this statement is not coming form the fact that I am now of The True Church commissioned by God



nothing in the book of mormon is from God.... and for sure the mormon so-called bible is NOT from God as was claimed by J smith and his followers at that time.... if you do not know about the mormon bible.... J smith claimed to have been given the true bible directly from god... but is was soundly demonstrated to be false by secular and religious scholars of the day... but they still keep it... and use it in their studies they do not make open to the public....
Smith
2013-11-15 14:28:40 UTC
I'll corroborate the statement that there's not one single artifact. Not one.



The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone has been routinely regarded as being a hoax. So much so that even the esteemed Hugh Nibley mormon apologist has claimed it to be a hoax.
2013-11-16 07:16:10 UTC
Below is a list of Mormon beliefs compared to Christian beliefs. I am a Christian. Given that Mormons "believe the Bible to be the word of God AS FAR AS IT IS TRANSLATED CORRECTLY" and that they "also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God" I'm not sure there is any point in me spending time to provide you with Bible scriptures that support the list of Christian beliefs below. However, I will post some links to articles so you can read what the Bible says about the Book of Mormon and Mormon beliefs.



LDS: Almighty God (Elohim), Heavenly Father, was once a man

Bible: God is omniscient and all powerful and eternal and is Spirit



LDS: The first offspring of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother was Jehovah, who became Jesus

Bible: God has no wife and has never procreated ‘children’ or other beings



LDS: Jesus was born just as all people are born. He is not the eternal, only God

Bible: The pre-incarnate Jesus is eternal and was not created. He was born as a man but not as all people are born – no human father was involved. Jesus is part of the One Being who is God.



LDS: The Holy Ghost is a spirit person but does not have the qualities of God

Bible: The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity and was not created



LDS: The Bible is accurate only as far as it has been translated properly, but the Book of Mormon, given to Joseph Smith, is more accurate

Bible: The Bible is God’s unchanging inspired word – all of it – and no other written word has been issued by God



LDS: There are three levels of salvation, all dependent on works, or lack of works

Bible: Salvation is a complete and finished work in Christ, a free gift of grace that cannot be earned



LDS: Man’s destiny is to one of three heavens / kingdoms but no-one knows what resurrection they will get

Bible: There is only one destiny for those whom God calls into his kingdom and they are promised a glorified resurrection body



LDS: There is no place of eternal torment (hell)

Bible: Those who are not saved are condemned to a place of eternal torment (read Jesus’ words in Luke 16:19 to end)



LDS: Man had a pre-existent life before being born on earth

Bible: Man was not pre-existent before being born on earth



LDS: The Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods have been restored to LDS, giving them their authority

Bible: Jesus Christ is our great High Priest, like Melchizedek – he is our authority and has done away with temple worship and the priesthood



LDS: Only temple-sealed, married Mormons who remain faithful to all Mormon requirements will attain the celestial kingdom

Bible: All Christians are sealed with the Holy Spirit at conversion and become born again into God’s family and will be with Christ in heaven



LM
2013-11-15 11:48:03 UTC
I would have to have read the book of Mormon to know that



I would not waste my time





I do know they Reject the Deity of Jesus Christ and the bible supports the Deity in many Places...John 1 Philippians 2 just to name 2
Alfred W
2013-11-15 18:12:28 UTC
<< 1 Timothy 4 >>

English Standard Version



Some Will Depart from the Faith



Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.



A Good Servant of Christ Jesus



If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed. Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.



Command and teach these things. Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity. Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching. Do not neglect the gift you have, which was given you by prophecy when the council of elders laid their hands on you. Practice these things, immerse yourself in them, so that all may see your progress. Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers.
Lynn
2013-11-15 11:50:45 UTC
Instead of going to the Bible, why not look at unbiased historical evidence surrounding the Book of Mormon. Also, basic archeological evidence proves it's not true. No culture that pervasive would vanish without a trace. There's not one single artifact. Not one.
Bettina
2013-11-15 13:36:48 UTC
Relevation 14:6 - 7

The Angel apeared already. It was Moroni



Ther is more, but in as much would that helfp you?
Skeptic
2013-11-15 11:58:48 UTC
No person can answer that except those who have read both the Book of Mormon and the Bible. Most people haven't even read the Bible completely through, let alone the Book of Mormon. Fortunately for you, I have done both.



In John 10:16 it is said that Jesus has "other sheep... which are not of this fold: them also [He] must bring, and they shall hear [His] voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd".

What other sheep is Christ referring to? Sheep means His followers or chosen people. Yet, He's already in Jerusalem and has his apostles going to other lands in Europe to preach His word. We can rule out the Middle East and Europe in this case then. That leaves you East Asia, the Americas(where the Book of Mormon takes place), Australia, or Africa. Where in Christianity is it taught that Christ had other followers besides those in Europe and the Middle east? There is no other Christian religion that teaches this except for those that accept the Book of Mormon.



In Ephesians 1:10, Paul teaches "That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:"

To "gather together in one all things in Christ" that would mean that not everything of Christ was brought together or available to everyone. The Book of Mormon's main message is to testify of Christ and His atonement and to help others come unto Him and His atonement. I can tell you that this is the main message of the book, having read it myself. If this is true, then the Book of Mormon would have needed to be gathered with the Bible, since it is of Christ. If the Book of Mormon is not one of these things which is of Christ, what is? Other Christians would not have an answer for you.



Edit:

Yun's argument does not stand when presented with the entire story behind the prophesies. There are many things this person is leaving out. I wonder why.

1) The prophesy that Christ would come back in 1891 had a condition on it. It would only occur IF Joseph Smith lived to see that year. It didn't say He would live to see it, and he didn't. Because this was a conditional prophesy, and the condition was not met, it doesn't mean this was a false prophesy at all. See Doctrine and Covenants 130:15-16. http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130.15-16?lang=eng#14

2) The thing they miss here is that the phrases "generation", "a little season", and "soon to come" etc, do not mean what we think they do. Not even in the Bible does "generation" mean generation in the way we think of it. If this is scripture from the Lord, He would still talk in this manner. In fact, the same thing can be said of Peter, who made the same prophesy about Christ's 2nd coming back(that He would come back in this generation) in the book of Acts. Are you willing to call Peter a false prophet, Yun? Another example is when the earth was created in 6 "days". It was not a literal day since science has proved the earth to be billions of years old. Rather, "yom" the word that was translated to be "day" can also be translated to be "time period" which makes much more sense. The same can be said of the words that were used to translate to "generation" and other phrases akin to that

3) It doesn't say it would turn to a world war at all. It says it would reach to all major nations in the world(look it up yourself, just like what Yun suggested to do). Which it does. Do you realize how many nations were dependent upon the south's cotton production? Do you realize that the South tried to get Britain and France to join them? Other nations were very much involved, just not directly.



A user said "There's not one single artifact. Not one." Objection! I would like to present evidence of there being a hebrew presence in America 2000 years before Columbus. From an online Ancient hebrew research center, they claim that this decalogue stone in New Mexico is authentic ancient Hebrew, dated to 1000 BC, and is of the 10 commandments: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/15_loslunas.html

The Book of Mormon has a people named the Jaredites who came to the Americas long before the Nephites and Lamanites did in 600 BC. It is quite likely the Jaredites, who are a Semitic people, made this decalogue stone.if you want to see more evidence of a presence of Semitic people in America long before columbus, go here, to a University's website:

http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/outliers.html (not all of that is Hebrew presence, however things such as the Ohio Decalogue stone and the Bat creek stone are, feel free to click on those from that source)



When you present the facts and evidence, the lies that people muster are clearly obvious.
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2013-11-15 11:47:33 UTC
No bible verses can either support OR disprove the BoM.

Bible stories are claims themselves, not evidence used to resolve claims.



What "disproves" the BoM is DNA evidence, archeology, anacrhonisms, self-contradictions, errors, changes, and much more. The bible stories have nothing to do with that, and many bible stories have themselves clearly been shown false by more than ample evidence.
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2013-11-15 14:50:00 UTC
the ten commandments, #1 keep the Sabbath holy and thou shall not have any Gods before me.
?
2013-11-15 11:54:00 UTC
there are many. just none that a christian will accept.

i like Rev 14:6

despite what lynn says! there is growing archeological proof of the existence of gold plates and plates of brass from which the BoM is translated and published.

i like the 3 men that signed their name to the testimony which says they actually saw the angel who delivered the plates to them to be seen and held in their hands

http://classic.scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/thrwtnss

but it was the testimony of joseph smith brought me to conversion of restoration of this church
How would I Know
2013-11-15 11:48:24 UTC
Given that neither book has any credibility of any kind.. how could one disprove the other?
Honestly
2013-11-15 13:50:30 UTC
Here are a couple:



1. In Genesis, when Jacob blessed his sons, the greatest blessing he gave was to Joseph (Note that the Book of Mormon states that the family that came from Jerusalem was from Josephs posterity). Here is his blessing:



"Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him: But his bow bode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren".



There are many prophecies concerning the relationship between Judah and Joseph who was Jacobs favored son. In this blessing, boughs and branches have to do with posterity like a family tree. A well represents water (ocean?). There is a mountain range that goes around the earth. The utmost bounds of the everlasting hills would be the mountain range that includes the rocky mountains and follows the entire length of the America's. If the BOM is true, then Josephs posterity as recorded in the BOM is huge. Otherwise, where is his posterity?



2. Some verses in Ezekiel 37 reads:



"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand".



When members of the LDS church receive their patriarchal blessings, most are found to be from the tribe of Ephraim, Joseph's son. The stick of Judah is the bible. The stick of Ephraim is the Book of Mormon.



3. Here are some portions of Isaiah 29:



"And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust".



The Book of Mormon was received out of the ground.



"For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep asleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned".



Martin Harris took some of the characters of the Book of Mormons to a prophesor Anthen. When he asked where the rest of the record was, he was told that it was sealed. He then said that he could not read a sealed book. Joseph Smith only had a 3rd grade education.



Isaiah then says this:



"Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid".


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