Question:
Did we evolve from a great Ape or did God make us?
Moris
2015-12-22 15:03:30 UTC
Did we evolve from a great Ape or did God make us?
152 answers:
Ceisiwr
2015-12-22 15:06:26 UTC
We and other primates are modern animals. We descended, branched off, from a common ancestor; and there will have been many such branchings of species - some of which will have survived and some will have become extinct - eventually resulting in humans, monkeys and other primates, and other classes. We're all still here because we've all survived so far - who knows whether we'll be able to adapt and continue to survive if the world changes beyond our ability to adapt, in a million years or less or more.



There might be various discoveries of possible lemur-like, or even shrew-like, ancestors. You might be better off asking about this in the Biology section. But we won't have come to definitive conclusions yet, if we ever will. But I have little doubt that our knowledge will increase over time, and we need to have the humility and strength to admit that we don't know everything, and maybe never will, rather than mask that by invoking a deity.



Evolution is a continuing process; species are continuing to disappear, evolve, survive or become extinct. There isn't any goal - there's no purpose or why, and it isn't chance either; it's natural selection.



The Adam and Eve story was a myth that tried to explain how death, toil and other woes came into the world and why we aren’t immortal; and like the Greek Pandora myth, a woman is blamed (and by extension, in a patriarchal society, all women). It also explains why people consider snakes as enemies.
david.truth
2015-12-23 11:27:42 UTC
True Christians did not come from apes; but others who support such a satanic theory as evolution; perhaps they do hold ties to ape-like creatures; being that they do not accept Jehovah God's letter to mankind; the bible. Besides, to logical reasoning humans; the bible clearly states that every creature produces after it's kind. (Genesis 2:18-23) Proof of this fact, is, a dog an a cat cannot mate and produce offspring. Likewise a human and an ape cannot mate and produce offspring. WHY? Because they are not genetically related. (Leviticus 20:16) (Deuteronomy 27:21) That form of unnatural activity produces demon possession upon the animals and humans involved in that activity. Which is why both the human and animal participants were ordered to be killed under the Mosaic law. Thus this also confirms that the evolutionary theory is of Satan the devil!
Sky Is The Limit.
2015-12-24 00:24:40 UTC
Not Apes , No , No.

God (Allah) All Mighty created us.



Read Quran Chapter 2.



Darwin suggested evolution of all animals as a theory. It has become widely accepted as fact however there is a missing link needed, that would actually show evolution of ape to man. As it is now there is only proof that we evolved from an early form of man. Apes evolved from an early form of ape, there is no real proof that shows the evolution of one species (ape) to another (man). When it comes to science the ultimate sin is assumption. To assume something without proof of it taking place. Everyone does not have the same values though, regardless to what those people assume it has not been proven.
chad
2015-12-23 12:16:38 UTC
Darwin suggested evolution of all animals as a theory. It has become widely accepted as fact however there is a missing link needed, that would actually show evolution of ape to man. As it is now there is only proof that we evolved from an early form of man. Apes evolved from an early form of ape, there is no real proof that shows the evolution of one species (ape) to another (man). When it comes to science the ultimate sin is assumption. To assume something without proof of it taking place. Everyone does not have the same values though, regardless to what those people assume it has not been proven.
?
2015-12-27 23:39:05 UTC
the religious concept of a God is considered to be a Paranormal being meaning there is standard in science regarding the existence of God because it is not something that can be explained for empirical evidence or rationality.



as for great apes evolving into man this has been debated for hundreds of years, a recent hypothesis suggests that humans didn't evolve from great apes but evolved from a gibbon like creature alongside chimpanzees.
Lucifer
2015-12-23 22:49:48 UTC
We are a great ape so, no we didn't.



But we have 16 ednrogenous retro viruses in the same position as a chimpanzee on our 6 billion genes meaning, with absoulute cetainty and without fear of any possible contradiction, man and chimpanzees had a common ancestor.



Note: that is like picking 16 numbers in a lottery or 6 billion twice or odds of 2X10 followed by 132 zero's against man and chimps not being related. (That's more than the odds theists give for random chemicals making life.)





EDIT: Well done thumbs down morons. Nice to see, thanks. I take it you mean you don't like the comment as it proves beyond any possible doubt we are not made in the image of your god. Don't thumbs down it, just live with it. It's a permanent fact of your true history/origin.
No Chance Without Pasta
2015-12-22 23:24:40 UTC
Did we evolve from a great Ape or did God make us?



All the evidence proves to an evolution from a common ancestor we share with chimpanzees. Many hominid subspecies died out, or were absorbed into what we know today as humans. There is absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest a deity of any kind had a hand in making us what we have become. Even the people who say aliens did it have more of an argument than the people who still say a magical sky pixie was responsible.



Now, while fossil evidence used to have the problem of goalposts, and creatards moving them, today we have mapped the entire human genome, start to finish. What we've found has only fit with the fossil record even more. The ONLY thing the fossil record got wrong was assuming all hominids were in the same chain that eventually led to homo sapiens.



Even if you don't agree with evolution, you can't deny the facts. You can't ignore the science. Every attempt at proving a god has met with failure, and every attempt at discrediting evolution has also failed. Evolution is an essential part of understanding modern science. There's a reason over 90% of the scientific community either doesn't believe, or doesn't have a religion. Outdated zombie jew cults simply don't fit with today's society, and people are starting to realize that.



You should too, but as always, the choice is yours. All we can do is give you the evidence, it's up to you to understand it. Either way, we're not going to force it down your throat. Remember the matrix? It's kind of like that. Either swallow the red pill and break free, or swallow the blue pill and stay in the machine. Or maybe i'm confusing the pills. Whatever. You get what I'm saying. Be an idiot sheep, or learn, and eventually think for yourself. It's scary at first, but oh-so very liberating.
?
2015-12-23 07:19:32 UTC
Our body had evolved and could be traced back to the apes and also back into other creatures as well! But in essence our origin had been made out and away from this 'existing' state. Beyond this existing state our God had created our initial essence in whatever form it might have been.

Thus evolution is flaunted by a 'missing link' whilst creation rests upon 'faith'.
Frederick
2015-12-23 15:16:05 UTC
If we evolved from a Great Ape, then, how did he brain of a great ape evolve into a bran that could ask: "Did God Make us?" and could produce the vast technological achievements that were necessary to have you read this question on this computer? and if so, then why did the brain of a great ape stop evolving? and why did ours evolve to this extent?
?
2015-12-23 08:04:42 UTC
No, we came from God

The bible says we were made from God's image. So unless he was an ape, then no, we didn't evolve from apes. This is a very theoretical question. A scientist believes we come from apes, but Christians believe we come from Adam and Eve, the first children of God. Since God came before apes, and we were made in his image, then it leads me to believe the bible story. God made man, then made woman from man's rib.
2015-12-22 15:28:38 UTC
We evolved from a primate that was an ape; but I would call it a lower specie. There could still be a God who has guided evolution. Its just a hell of a lot less likely that the bible God or quran God is real.
Space Wasp
2015-12-23 19:42:58 UTC
We ARE great apes, and evolved from earlier great apes (which in turn evolved through a whole series of earlier ancestral species). The evidence is undeniable to anyone who actually understands the science.



There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that any god actually exists.
brother trucker
2015-12-24 12:39:22 UTC
Dealing with the obvious. We were all created by a Creator, First Cause wise enough to build the multiverse and make it work.



a, There is evidence of evolution and adaptation. We know this occurred.

b, We are related in many ways to other life forms, more closely to the great apes.



There is no evidence that points to a equals b and c, resulted. We are not descended from apes any more than many other animals without a great deal of collusion on the part of the theorist.



Science went through a dark ages of a sort that was in a large part self inflicted after emerging from the dark ages brought on by false religion. Many of us have not emerged as yet from ideas we now know are completely incompatible with evidence. Science is no more responsible than religion when it comes to removing error from its history. That's why today both are based on partial truths.



My parents expected the coming of Jesus and searched for that. They were both scientists by the way and taught science. Others expected to find the missing link. Both attitudes required faith. Both were disappointed.



Do we ever search our ideas to see if they are founded in more than faith in the unseen? Somewhere in the vastness are answers and those who search for them unencumbered by any delusions are deserving of respect.



We will find God if we continue on this path but He may not be a God which science or religion recognize.
infidel-louie
2015-12-23 12:35:13 UTC
What are the odds of say a fully functioning eye coming into existence let alone 2 on a single creature? You can take any part of the human body and do the math then figure out how these parts all came together as a fully functioning being. Man hasn't even figured out where the material for the "Big Bang" came from in the first place. Something from nothing? Doesn't that violate a particular scientific principal?
2015-12-23 19:57:32 UTC
Why are there still apes if evolution is really? Or why haven't we seen evolution occur? But people have felt and experienced God. Think about how exact everything in the world is down to our very biology. How couldn't there do a God. How could something so exact be created by chance? Answer for yourself... Did God create you?
2015-12-22 15:05:45 UTC
Apes
?
2015-12-26 05:51:47 UTC
No, we did not evolve from a great ape, because Genesis 2:7 says, And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.
Freethinking Liberal
2015-12-23 09:43:39 UTC
No, we did not evolve from a great Ape, we are great Apes. As for gods, I do not bother with mythology
?
2015-12-24 08:37:19 UTC
No, God created us. We didn't evolved from Apes because man alone has the ability to use his voice to produce speech. As evolutionist Hooten admits in his book Up from the Ape: “All of the anthropoid apes are vocally and muscularly equipped so that they could have an articulate language, if they possessed the requisite intelligence. . . . There is nothing about a snout that prevents its possessor from speaking, but there is something about the brain that goes with a snout that makes speech impossible.” Not only does mankind have the power of speech but practically all persons can improve the quality of their voices.
?
2015-12-24 07:32:48 UTC
Humans did not evolve from a great ape, but from a common ancestor to the great ape. And God created that common ancestor.
aida
2015-12-22 21:28:15 UTC
It's not an either-or question. Long ago, my eighth-grade science teacher said in response to some protests from the back row, "I'm not denying that God created the world. I'm only going to discuss how he did it." In other words, if there is a Supreme Being who made everything, why couldn't he (or she) have used eons to tweak some creature, microscopically generation by generation, until that creature became a furless, tailless biped with thumbs and a brain and even a soul? After all, if that Supreme Being is infinite and eternal, why shouldn't he take all that time he wants to bring a work to perfection? (And isn't it lucky that he has all the time in the world, because we certainly aren't perfect yet!)
yvonne
2015-12-23 05:18:09 UTC
There is definite proof that man did not evolve from apes, but were created by God. The proof is in the Bible. You don't need any other proof if you believe the Bible is truly God's word. Questioning creation is questioning the Bible
ImAkidnappedAnt_Help
2015-12-25 02:10:36 UTC
I'm a Christian so....WAIT WAIT just keep reading....Seriously...



I like to believe religion and science can go hand in hand. In fact some of the worlds greatest scientist were men of faith. I believe that God created us man but over time we evolved to our current state. not necessarily from "Great ape" but maybe. I believe that God created the world and the animals on it but the bible doesn't go in detail on the means God did it maybe our minds couldn't/still cant handle it. Maybe it was by millions of years of evolution. I mean God is omnipotent the alpha and the omega. What is ten years to us may be a fraction of a second to him or less. I try not to take the bible too literally I mean it is an ancient text written by man inspired my God so their is bound to be some distortion.





Maybe God Created Adam and Eve and Cain's wife was an 'evolved human' a Neanderthal instead of a sister or niece r maybe one of the fallen angel
Tim M
2015-12-23 11:35:29 UTC
Research published in 2013 proved that humans in Europe interbred with Neanderthals. Today, for those of us of European descent, we have 1% to 4% Neanderthal DNA.



To find known common ancestors of modern apes and modern humans, you have to go back 2 million years or more. Like Adam said in his answer, apes are our very distant cousins. On the other hand, I believe that God set the whole thing in motion.
Romans
2015-12-23 13:23:45 UTC
The question of whether we evolved from a great ape or did God make us is so absurd it answers itself. So I congratulate you on the brilliance of the question, because it pretty much proves that God made us. Well done!
?
2015-12-22 15:10:59 UTC
The Great Apes are animals in the genera Pan, Gorilla, and Pongo. We did not evolve from any of these animals; rather, they are cousin-species to our own.



There's no evidence any gods were necessary for evolution to take place.
Nay
2015-12-23 06:04:59 UTC
Hmmm, well for one we evolved,

apes and monkeys didn't.

See how we are different in our variety of colors and apes and monkeys have stayed the same?

I don't come from apes,



God is my creator.

Adam and eve are my ancestors.
ScienceTime
2015-12-22 15:06:21 UTC
As everyone said, homo sapiens and great apes do share a common ancestor, way back. There was no god to make people or anything else - but people made many gods.
?
2015-12-22 19:47:09 UTC
We didn't evolve from a great Ape. Nobody knows if a God made us. Speculation is all we have. Evolution doesn't claim that we came from a great Ape. It claims life changes throughout time, just as landscape does. It claims that apes and humans came from an ape like ancestor. A long time ago.
Honest
2015-12-26 02:47:51 UTC
Ape ? Try Neanderthal, with DNA testing* to prove it,

sired by two different types of Proto-Man. I recall we

were the last pair of several other evolutionary players.

Recent research has found Man's best friend was also

a prehistoric associate. Pack-mates. Which with the

advent of warmer climate was a triple-whammy in Stone

Age genocidal consequences. Http://www.ancestry.com
?
2015-12-23 10:06:15 UTC
Absolutely not! Humans were created by God and reproduce only after their own kind. They do so today and have always done so in the past. Any apelike creatures that lived in the past were just that—apes, or monkeys—not humans. And fossils of ancient humans that differ slightly from humans of today simply demonstrate variety within the human family, just as today we have many varieties living side by side. There are seven-foot humans and there are pygmies, with varying sizes and shapes of skeletons. But all belong to the same human “kind,” not animal “kind.”
2015-12-22 17:41:17 UTC
What if God created the apes that evolved into humans, could you deal with that idea?
?
2015-12-22 15:49:21 UTC
The fact of the matter, God created us, from the dust of the earth, that is why we crave the things of this world, that is why we lust after the things of this world and only when God Jesus Christ saves us then and only then will we stop lusting after the things of this world, because the things of this world will be destroy when God Jesus Christ comes back to judge the living and the dead and too destroy the heaven and the earth by fire, the second death, where the heaven and the earth shall be burned up, by the hell fires. Also Evolution is one of the biggest hoax since science said the world was flat, and most of us know that the world is not flat, it is round, it even says it in God word the bible that the earth is round. Evolution is a lie, just like global warming of are day, that is a lie too. God controls all of the weather not mankind.
Waleed Khaleel
2015-12-27 12:56:52 UTC
Great Ape !!? :)

Do you really feel like an ape ?

Even if you think that, still God created us. Wither he created us from apes or from trees, we are all creatures.

Till now , from all human fossils found, we still have just human antecedents.
Ilmatic
2015-12-23 10:37:56 UTC
This is a good question. I have been learning about this in school and I found this point interesting that

"Some people point to physical similarities between man and some of the animals to prove their relationship. They have to agree, though, that man’s mental capacities are far superior to those of any animal. Why does man have the ability to make plans and organize the world around him, the capacity for love, a high intelligence, a conscience, and a concept of past, present, and future? Evolution cannot answer this. But the Bible does, when it says: “God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him.” (Genesis 1:27) As far as man’s mental and moral abilities and potential are concerned, he is a reflection of his heavenly Father"
Mo
2015-12-23 09:35:04 UTC
We evolved from primates...Yes....share over 99% of their DNA.



I don't know why some people find that offensive....we are animals like all others...we have just got a larger brain and the ability to reason.



Mo University Lecturer Atheist
?
2015-12-23 13:41:20 UTC
GOD is a Great Ape? look at the people in the World today, and what they do to other People; God Protects them, so that they do not get their Butts kicked in, in return for the EVIL they are about; Now their God is on the Run, and the Shitt has hit the FAN. ...1223.2015
Lance K
2015-12-24 22:06:53 UTC
Ummm... Both?



Cause that is the right answer.



God can very well have made us 6000 years ago, or yesterday and made us evolved from Great Ape. Or not so great ape. I mean God is GOD. Kind of "can do anything he/she damn feels like" kind of deal going on here.



Us evolving from Ape is science.



God making us is religion.



Both can be "true" at same time.
2015-12-22 15:04:47 UTC
Humans did not evolve from apes, gorillas or chimps. We are all modern species that have followed different evolutionary paths, though humans share a common ancestor with some primates, such as the African ape.
2015-12-22 19:58:29 UTC
re: your question, Did we evolve from a great Ape or did God make us?

Humans are in the "great apes" branch of the evolutionary tree. If God exists, as I believe He does, then evidently His means of making us entailed evolution from predecessor species.



Alongside Galileo, "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them." If science (the logical conclusions of God-given sense, reason and intellect) tells us that humans are a product of evolution, then we need to seek the higher poetic truths of the Genesis creation stories, not turn to them for a textbook on biology or physics.
?
2015-12-24 18:40:50 UTC
Well, something cannot come from nothing, so we must have evolved from a great ape. It would be crazy to think God made us out of nothing.
WOOWHO
2015-12-23 00:04:13 UTC
Did we evolve from a great Ape or did a god make us ?



There is a saying follow where the EVIDENCE takes you .



We could resolve the question Show me the independent SELF Evident god



...Theist Test



# 1 If someone had not told you of a god or gods would you be asking this question ?



# 2 If someone had not told you or if you had not read of a god or gods would you have DISCOVERED the god independently on your own ?



# 3 Is the god or gods your referencing Independent and self evident without humans projecting it ? .



Happy holidays thanks for the question 2 thumbs down perhaps they did not like the test
?
2015-12-22 17:44:51 UTC
We didn't evolve from apes, we just share a common ancestor with them, because if we evolved from them, there would be no apes because they would all be humans. But God didn't make us, because he doesn't exist.
Nicholas
2015-12-23 18:52:00 UTC
I personally think that the story of Adam and Eve is just a metaphor. Yes, we all did evolve from primitive creatures, but there's no denying God's existence either. Adam and Eve are simply names given to the first two 'human-like' creatures.
kaganate
2015-12-23 06:37:56 UTC
We ARE a species of great Ape --



made, as all things are, by God.



Through the process of evolution.
James
2015-12-25 12:44:07 UTC
If we evolved from apes and other monkeys then why are they still around? They should all have turned into humans by now. Some  apes that are held in cativity and others that are taged by scientists I have never heard nor seen any of them turning into humans.



That rubbish theory was inspired by satan to create the impression on the minds of atheists that there exists no Almighty Creator. They want God to shout from Heaven. Even if God did shout from above they'd still want evidence of who created God and so forth.
?
2015-12-23 02:32:29 UTC
If we were evolved from monkeys,now why monkeys are not evolving into humans?

If believe for a second that we evolved from monkeys,so who made monkeys then?

If i would call that my laptop or pc has no creator,it make anysense?

How you can say that this universe has no creator ?

Dont believe on atheists they are already enough mad
Rayal
2015-12-22 15:08:21 UTC
It was an OK ape, But great? I suppose.





That was a Great Ape!
Open-Minded
2015-12-22 16:49:42 UTC
I think both.

I think god made ape men and we evolved to what we are today.

We will continue to evolve, and look different, but I think we will blow ourselves up before we look much different to what we do now, sadly.
?
2015-12-23 04:31:23 UTC
People who believe we just appeared from the billions and billions of one chance that the right chemicals are in the right place and then that one bit of chemistry "evolved" into the complex creatures we are now, cant be serious.



Just sit quietly for a while, not just accept the concept, and think of the possibilities of that one chemical reaction and the circumstances being just right created life? Then that "life" "decided" it could do better - HOW? No brain, no feelings, no understanding. WHY would it need to develop if it were doing just ok as that simple one cell?





If you think about it it defies logic.
djdundalk
2015-12-24 05:01:07 UTC
God made apes which made us. We evolved from all living things on this planet, not just apes. They are our closest living relatives on earth.
2015-12-23 21:06:27 UTC
The real answer is that we do not really know. The probable answer is that all life forms have a common structure for nutrition,growth and reproduction,some more developed than others. Our embryonic life in the womb shows all these characteristics very clearly. Therefore it is highly probable that there is a strong case for evolution. The God theory is for Sunday School.
JOHN
2015-12-23 00:31:54 UTC
Us Humans are members of the Family of Apes.



Did you know that the Gorilla is 98% Human?



Here in England the Orangutan is classified in English Law as a 'none Human Person'.



It's only when we see our family members close up that we start to understand something of ourselves.



Orangutan without doubt highly intelligent.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=orangutan+sign+language



Gorilla 98.6% Human

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gorilla+98%25+human



Some people make the mistake of using the word 'money' in respect of 'apes' - Apes are vastly superior to any monkey, especially when it comes to brain power and ability to communicate. It's what we do.
bobny11901
2015-12-22 18:22:46 UTC
Why is it that theists can't seem to read a book? They constantly bring up the nonsense question of "coming from an ape" in some form or other. We don't come from apes, period. We share a common ancestor with the ape YES, as do all animals. Please write it down or go to the library and find out the TRUTH. Or of course, you can continue to be idiots and believe in invisible fairy's.
?
2015-12-22 18:33:11 UTC
This is a simple question of faith. It is not a question of knowledge or facts. If you believe firmly in this idea of God, with a capital G then you will think God made us. If you don't then you will believe that apes made us.
2015-12-24 03:33:47 UTC
God allah or brahma(the creature super human) has created us. There are so many theories about creation but it is the theory suppored by all religion. God has said to create the world in seven days and brahma also is said to create the world like wise. He created to men on the last day. He himself rests on the seventh sky(planet) satyaloka. Unlike allah or god, brahma is not almighty god, he is a super intelligent may be scientist. He is self born from the lotus via navel of almighty, unbirthed, ultimate god Vishnu.
Jasmine Alexander
2015-12-22 15:56:30 UTC
Genesis 2:7 says "God went on to form the man out of dust". However this is an excellent question that you asked I understand that many people believe in evolution but the bible clearly states that we have a creator.
wombatfreaks
2015-12-23 09:47:24 UTC
it need not be an either/or answer. Certainly there is proof of common decent and clear genetic relationship between humans and other apes. That does not preclude or invalidate the idea of god.
?
2015-12-24 09:27:05 UTC
It should be clear that there is a creator when w observe the beauty around us and the wisdom in all that is made. That is why we are directed to give God all glory who created all things as Rev. 4:11 states.
?
2015-12-23 02:22:27 UTC
If humans evolved from a type of ape, why are there other apes who haven't evolved at all? since they have all lived in similar environments.
2015-12-25 08:55:31 UTC
Why are their still apes if we evolved from apes?
?
2015-12-22 16:17:13 UTC
Man is man and an ape is an ape. Different DNA buddy
Moi
2015-12-22 17:30:11 UTC
God made us



Read Genesis 1-3 in the Holy Bible



Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
2015-12-22 15:05:46 UTC
Humans are classified as great apes. God made us, be it instantly or through the use of evolution, who knows.
nailand2000
2015-12-22 15:04:52 UTC
we evolved from a not so great ape....

actually, humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.
2015-12-24 22:32:08 UTC
I know you want the easy answer,but the 100% fact is nothing is proven throught human civilization. There's truly no way to know. However if something called Astral Projection is real,you could project and test it by reading a note from a parent or friend,and verifying a couple times. That's the closest to seeing if there's afterlife besides an obe(if that stuff even exists) WHAT I SPEAK ARE FACTS! 100%
?
2015-12-23 18:55:09 UTC
We did not evolve !!! Athiests want us to believe that because they don't want God around because to them there is no such thing as sin !!! They want to believe there is no such thing as sin when there is sin all around them so they keep their spiritual eyes closed and believe nothing !!!



http://www.bibleprobe.com/jesus-is-God.h...

http://bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophe...

https://carm.org/100-truths-about-jesus



STUDY THE BIBLE AND WHAT IT SAYS



Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil (trouble): I the LORD do all these things.

Isa 46: 6-10 Remember this, keep it in mind, take it to heart, you rebels. Remember the former things, those of long ago;

I am God, and there is no other;

I am God, and there is none like me.

I make known the end from the beginning,

from ancient times, what is still to come.

I say, ‘My purpose will stand,

and I will do all that I please.

John 14:29 And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe

Jer 10:10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.



Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.



1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/...

Pray the following

Dear Lord,

I admit that I am a sinner. I have done many things that don’t please you. I have lived my life for myself. I am sorry and I repent. I ask you to forgive me. I believe that you died on the cross for me, to save me. You did what I could not do for myself. I come to you now and ask you to take control of my life, I give it to you. Help me to live every day in a way that pleases you. I love you, Lord, and I thank you that I will spend all eternity with you. Amen
el atlatl
2015-12-24 08:54:21 UTC
The human ape created gods in his own images.
?
2015-12-23 04:51:13 UTC
Neither.

We did not evolve from a great ape.

And God did not make us.

We evolved from Brahmas who passed away from heavens and was reborn as human beings.
liam
2015-12-22 20:42:15 UTC
Both... We probably evolved from a germ and a man who knew of a great unseen power created us to be similar to his image
2015-12-22 15:08:56 UTC
humans are great apes, you dumbkopf



the great apes: chimps, bonobo, gorillas, orang-utans and humans, all evolved from a common ancestor



duuuuuuuuh
Andrea
2015-12-22 16:50:28 UTC
We are created in God's image God given and unique everyone of us. God made all matters of life in His ways and said that it was "good".God gave us a free will to go about and make our own choices to love,accept, or do the complete opposite that's man's decision. God wouldn't force it but wants us to figure it out and in time to learn from and His ways. We may not know at first but can know if there's proof in what you see in nature it's also recorded in His word. We have a payment of sin since Adam's fall... and as God made heaven he also made hell. Through His love for us gave up His Son Jesus Christ to come,and carry on a cross our sin so that when we die we can go to Heaven. Faith believing in our heart that He died and rose again for us. We ask Jesus to forgive us of our sins and take us to heaven when we die.God made us and we make our own choice out of His love we can know it to.
?
2015-12-22 15:44:55 UTC
We evolved from a common ancestor
tim october
2015-12-22 15:14:21 UTC
Can both not be true. Did not a lego creation form from one piece atop another, or did you make it. Why could not God use the process of evolution and natural selection to bring forth us a creation?
?
2015-12-23 09:06:33 UTC
God made us from a great ape. It's like Devo said in "Jocko Homo", "God made Man/ But Monkey supplied the glue."
?
2015-12-22 21:05:20 UTC
Created, Christians and non-Christians alike often question whether the theory of evolution is accurate. Those who express doubts about the theory are often labeled “unscientific” or “backwards” by some in the pro-evolution camp. At times, the popular perception of evolution seems to be that it has been proven beyond all doubt and there are no scientific obstacles left for it. In reality, there are quite a few scientific flaws in the theory that provide reasons to be skeptical. Granted, none of these questions necessarily disproves evolution, but they do show how the theory is less than settled.



There are many ways in which evolution can be criticized scientifically, but most of those criticisms are highly specific. There are countless examples of genetic characteristics, ecological systems, evolutionary trees, enzyme properties, and other facts that are very difficult to square with the theory of evolution. Detailed descriptions of these can be highly technical and are beyond the scope of a summary such as this. Generally speaking, it’s accurate to say that science has yet to provide consistent answers to how evolution operates at the molecular, genetic, or even ecological levels in a consistent and supportable way.



Other flaws in the theory of evolution can be separated into three basic areas. First, there is the contradiction between “punctuated equilibrium” and “gradualism.” Second is the problem in projecting “microevolution” into “macroevolution.” Third is the unfortunate way in which the theory has been unscientifically abused for philosophical reasons.



First, there is a contradiction between “punctuated equilibrium” and “gradualism.” There are two basic possibilities for how naturalistic evolution can occur. This flaw in the theory of evolution occurs because these two ideas are mutually exclusive, and yet there is evidence suggestive of both of them. Gradualism implies that organisms experience a relatively steady rate of mutations, resulting in a somewhat “smooth” transition from early forms to later ones. This was the original assumption derived from the theory of evolution. Punctuated equilibrium, on the other hand, implies that mutation rates are heavily influenced by a unique set of coincidences. Therefore, organisms will experience long periods of stability, “punctuated” by short bursts of rapid evolution.



Gradualism seems to be contradicted by the fossil record. Organisms appear suddenly and demonstrate little change over long periods. The fossil record has been greatly expanded over the last century, and the more fossils that are found, the more gradualism seems to be disproved. It was this overt refutation of gradualism in the fossil record that prompted the theory of punctuated equilibrium.



The fossil record might seem to support punctuated equilibrium, but again, there are major problems. The basic assumption of punctuated equilibrium is that a very few creatures, all from the same large population, will experience several beneficial mutations, all at the same time. Right away, one can see how improbable this is. Then, those few members separate completely from the main population so that their new genes can be passed to the next generation (another unlikely event). Given the wide diversity of life, this kind of amazing coincidence would have to happen all the time.



While the improbable nature of punctuated equilibrium speaks for itself, scientific studies have also cast doubt on the benefits it would confer. Separating a few members from a larger population results in inbreeding. This results in decreased reproductive ability, harmful genetic abnormalities, and so forth. In essence, the events that should be promoting “survival of the fittest” cripple the organisms instead.



Despite what some claim, punctuated equilibrium is not a more refined version of gradualism. They have very different assumptions about the mechanisms behind evolution and the way those mechanisms behave. Neither is a satisfactory explanation for how life came to be as diverse and balanced as it is, and yet there are no other reasonable options for how evolution can operate.



The second flaw is the problem of extending “microevolution” into “macroevolution.” Laboratory studies have shown that organisms are capable of adaptation. That is, living things have an ability to shift their biology to better fit their environment. However, those same studies have demonstrated that such changes can only go so far, and those organisms have not fundamentally changed. These small changes are called “microevolution.” Microevolution can result in some drastic changes, such as those found in dogs. All dogs are the same species, and one can see how much variation there is. But even the most aggressive breeding has never turned a dog into something else. There is a limit to how large, small, smart, or hairy a dog can become through breeding. Experimentally, there is no reason to suggest that a species can change beyond its own genetic limits and become something else.



Long-term evolution, though, requires “macroevolution,” which refers to those large-scale changes. Microevolution turns a wolf into a Chihuahua or a Great Dane. Macroevolution would turn a fish into a cow or a duck. There is a massive difference in scale and effect between microevolution and macroevolution. This flaw in the theory of evolution is that experimentation does not support the ability of many small changes to transform one species into another.



Finally, there is the flawed application of evolution. This is not a flaw in the scientific theory, of course, but an error in the way the theory has been abused for non-scientific purposes. There are still many, many questions about biological life that evolution has not answered. And yet, there are those who try to transform the theory from a biological explanation into a metaphysical one. Every time a person claims that the theory of evolution disproves religion, spirituality, or God, they are taking the theory outside of its own limits. Fairly or not, the theory of evolution has been hijacked as an anti-religious mascot by those with an axe to grind against God.



Overall, there are many solidly scientific reasons to question the theory of evolution. These flaws may be resolved by science, or they may eventually kill the theory all together. We don’t know which one will happen, but we do know this: the theory of evolution is far from settled, and rational people can question it scientifically.
Yasi
2015-12-22 16:38:41 UTC
Hebrews 3:4

4 Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.
2015-12-22 15:05:42 UTC
Stop a chess game half way through then ask a chimp to work out the next move.



Death or the dead

All the major faiths refer to us as already having died - Fell from God into sin - You have to repent and hopefully remember:



(Collosions 3:3)

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.



ISLAM.

The Koran itself seems quite clear: "And you were dead, and He brought you back to life. And He shall cause you to die, and shall bring you back to life, and in the end shall gather you unto Himself." (2:28).



Buddhism

Avidyā (Sanskrit; Pāli: avijjā; Tibetan phonetic: ma rigpa) is commonly translated as "ignorance" or "delusion".



Hinduism

He who is forgetful of the Self, mistaking the physical body for it, and goes through innumerable births, is like one who wanders all over the world in a dream. Thus, realizing the Self would only be like waking up from the dreamwanderings.

Sri Ramana Maharshi (December 30, 1879 – April 14, 1950)

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The Way

The only way.

Why shouldn't one be able to lead a spiritual life in the world? But it is extremely difficult.

Once I passed over the bridge at Baghbazar. How many chains is it tied with!

Nothing will happen if one chain is broken, for there are so many others to keep it in place.

Just so there are many ties on a worldly man. There is no way for him to get rid of them except through the grace of God... Sri Ramakrishna



◄ Romans 9:16 ►

It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy.

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Juan
2015-12-23 09:24:29 UTC
I'm pretty sure it was from Grape Ape.
Daggerfagger
2015-12-22 22:04:44 UTC
No apes and humans are different but there are some similarities.
Crapmore Ernest Puddwacker III
2015-12-23 17:11:24 UTC
Richard Dawkins comparing Chimpanzee DNA with human's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPlr4tD64A
?
2015-12-23 10:57:33 UTC
(Genesis 2:4) This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.

(Genesis 5:2) Male and female he created them.



(Psalm 115:16) As for the heavens, they belong to Jehovah, But the earth he has given to the sons of men.



(Isaiah 42:5) This is what the true God, Jehovah, says, The Creator of the heavens and the Grand One who stretched them out, The One who spread out the earth and its produce, The One who gives breath to the people on it And spirit to those who walk on it:



(Isaiah 45:18) For this is what Jehovah says, The Creator of the heavens, the true God, The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, Who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.



(Revelation 4:11) “You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”
dirk diggler
2015-12-23 01:57:16 UTC
I don't think anybody can answer that question with a fact, just what they were taught or trained to believe. With that said i believe it to be a fact that god created us...no lol
2015-12-22 19:31:57 UTC
It's both.



The beings, who may or may not be out of their minds, made us using evolutionary tactics out of the apes over a long period of time. It was rapid enough though to cause curiosity in some people as to how it occured.



Out of nowhere, blammo, there was the human being. It was quick. A little to quick.



Worship them? I dunno bout all that. Id love to hear why we should from their mouth.
Santa claus
2015-12-23 15:29:29 UTC
We evolved into the greatest baddest and maddest ape
Down
2015-12-24 19:34:12 UTC
A whole lot of so called truths out there. How about this truth. You are creating your reality, right now. Now is, as you designed it to be. You are the conscious one in the stream of consciousness. From your perspective, you are all things. Namaste'
Steven
2015-12-22 16:44:10 UTC
No the Devil turned some sinners into apes before Noah.
?
2015-12-22 16:45:30 UTC
It's not a matter of either/or.

GOD made all living creatures.

GOD used evolution to develop us.

Mankind is perfectly adapted to his environment.
LindaLou
2015-12-23 14:17:45 UTC
Personally, I am created in the perfect imagine of my Heavenly Father - if you wanna go with the apes...you go for that.
Paso
2015-12-23 06:22:24 UTC
I think it's what you believe in. I believe God made everything. I mean, what's creation without the creator?
?
2015-12-23 05:34:00 UTC
Jehovah used the prehuman Jesus as his "master worker" in creating all other things in heaven and on earth. (Proverbs 8:22-31, Colossians 1:16,17). Evolution is not a Bible teaching.
?
2015-12-22 22:13:41 UTC
You're calling for faith to be part of the process. For how long would you wait before you let God in?
Gomakawitnessofjesus
2015-12-23 08:10:32 UTC
knowing there is a God and Jesus is Real, we did not come from apes,
?
2015-12-22 21:52:32 UTC
The Bible says God made man from the dust of the earth, and made woman from the man's rib. I'll go with that instead of the overly complicated evolutionary explanation.
Raja
2015-12-24 02:57:01 UTC
The gradual development of science itself is an example. The creatures must have created in the same way. I don't think that it could have been an evolution.
gillie
2015-12-22 15:37:21 UTC
The evidence points to descent from a primate ancestor. However, believers don't care about evidence.
2015-12-23 12:18:09 UTC
The Bible says that God made us so I believe we are created. Evolution is a satanic theory ro drive you away from truth.
Hannah J Paul
2015-12-23 11:24:27 UTC
God made us.



Hannah J Paul
Pancho
2015-12-23 22:11:46 UTC
To begin with, I have a question: How/why do you distinguish between evolution and "God made us?" Secondly, there is increasing evidence that we (these bodies we live in) were genetically engineered (no differently than our current dog population) by people who came here from other planets. The Sumerian, Babylonian, and Mesopotamian texts all say this. The dogs we have never lived in the wild ~ they were cross-bred millions of times with other different breeds in the wild until we got the dogs we wanted. Bulldogs, Doberman pinschers, and Greyhounds are good examples. So it's the same with the human body. It came about due to the people who came here having cross-bred themselves with some of the more primitive creatures who were living on this planet. The results? Human beings. God is the One Who is behind everything. God is the spark of life itself. What we do with that life is up to us, but if we do what we shouldn't do, we have to live with the consequences. The people who bred human beings finally got fed up and that's why it says in Genesis, "and it repented the Lord (head of the project, that is) that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." Why? Because humans had gotten out of control, and we remain out of control, which is why the power elite want to wipe us out. That's exactly what happened in Chapter 6 of Genesis. The "Lord" (the scientist in charge of the project) in Chapter 6 said, "the end of all flesh is come before me ~ the earth is filled with violence because of them, so look: I'm going to destroy them with the earth." And that's what the power elite of that time did: They created a huge flood; they knew how to manipulate the forces of the planet no differently than the power elite of today know how to manipulate the forces that can move the tectonic plates. They can create earthquakes and they, as in ancient times, can create floods. And so thousands (millions?) of years ago, they created what has come to be referred to as "the flood" and many millions of people died. Similar cataclysms are going to happen again because humans are out of control (as always) and know how to do nothing but eat & procreate, just like animals. The power elite want to trim down the population to 500-million, which means that about 650-billion will have to be exterminated. And since no one is paying attention, since most are busy being hypnotized by their own television sets, they're not even remotely aware of what's happening ...
?
2015-12-23 23:21:03 UTC
We evolved
2015-12-23 18:09:29 UTC
Religion and the Ape theory is all nonsense.
rubina
2015-12-23 15:19:03 UTC
!I am amazed on how so many intelligent people ,do not know the Bible; This is sad ,but all I can say is read Romans Eight, not one time but at least for a month and hopefully you might come to a different conclusion.
legendaky
2015-12-22 15:34:06 UTC
God made us. The Adam and Eve story is real. There are different opposing theories on the creation of this world, and humans. The Bible has it all, honestly.
?
2015-12-22 22:40:38 UTC
None of your two choices you gave me have anything to do with the human species evolving~!
vintner
2015-12-22 20:11:37 UTC
We did not evolve from apes, nor were we made by a god. Humans evolved separately from apes.
Fort Erudite
2015-12-23 13:07:48 UTC
God had created Adam and Eve. The rest of the human race were created by them.
Daniel
2015-12-23 05:34:12 UTC
God made us in His image according to the bible. Evolution is man's flawed proof of our existence
George
2015-12-22 17:57:34 UTC
I evolved from donkey kong
g_steed
2015-12-23 04:16:45 UTC
Mistake! Darwin proved that Homo sapiens is a result of ' Descent with modification.' Believe what you want, the facts will not change.
Cherokee
2015-12-22 15:07:43 UTC
The Bible book of Genesis explains that Jehovah God created man from the dust of the ground & each animal separately "according to its kind." (Read Genesis chapters 1 & 2)
great knight
2015-12-24 11:25:01 UTC
Get a kj version bible and believe. Jesus Christ is the truth. You are not an ape,https://youtu.be/CbqNIbjcv_w Evolution is admitted lie. They teach admitted lies to fool kids. Jesus loves you.
Pebble & the Man
2015-12-25 18:01:45 UTC
sorry not me, my dad farted and I came into being so it was I suppose an immaculate conception. if you watch the matrix and pretend that the machines are our souls then.. umm then we do our souls bidding... and god? well he just turns a blind eye. unless u need faith. then he cares. jesus saves. oh...........!honestly I couldn't care less who made me. im here for them. if I refuse to do it then my soul wil just rebirth some other mindless idiot that will give it what it wants. Darwin is irrelevant.
Suzy
2015-12-23 07:59:26 UTC
(Genesis 2:7) And Jehovah God went on to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living person. jw.org
keith
2015-12-23 14:14:00 UTC
Men are men and apes are apes, and never the twain shall meet yours truly. SWINDLED
Gilligan
2015-12-23 12:18:46 UTC
God created us
Missie
2015-12-23 17:38:39 UTC
great ape
Trilobiteme
2015-12-22 15:48:11 UTC
Man is made in the image of God
?
2015-12-23 06:30:46 UTC
"Let us (the Godhead) create man (kind) in Our own image (moral), in our likeness". Our atheist friends are convinced that they are a part of the animal kingdom so they are free to be animals like their 'evolutionary ancestors' — free to be as low-down as snakes, and to make pigs of themselves, and to act like donkeys.
Vinegar Taster
2015-12-23 07:29:02 UTC
"Common ancestor ". And we share over 98% of our DNA with the great apes .
2015-12-24 20:20:33 UTC
God made us. We came from Adam and Eve,
2015-12-22 15:57:44 UTC
God made us using evolution.
CECIL W
2015-12-24 00:06:54 UTC
The evolution did not take place on this planet. Like Superman we have all been transported

here from other planets.
Rafael
2015-12-25 04:48:04 UTC
Maybe...God created us through evoulution,maybe evoulution is a proccess of how humans were created.
?
2015-12-22 16:00:08 UTC
God made us through the process of evolution.
2015-12-22 15:04:36 UTC
Both. Why do you think a religious truth conflicts with a scientific one?
2015-12-24 23:16:28 UTC
God made us
?
2015-12-24 10:47:14 UTC
God made us
2015-12-22 21:27:51 UTC
we are people

God made people

God made animals

God is good all the time

and

all the time God is good.

Jesus made everything.

threw Father God..
?
2015-12-24 06:17:03 UTC
Come to think of it even though i'm christian.... I dont think god made us.... We just existed because of science
?
2015-12-22 22:28:17 UTC
God made us
?
2015-12-24 02:45:55 UTC
God made us as a joke.
?
2015-12-23 23:14:47 UTC
Something
?
2015-12-23 11:57:17 UTC
God created us as we are, we did not develop from anything.
Tad Dubious
2015-12-23 10:53:03 UTC
Moris, I go with the God belief.
Uncle Remus 54
2015-12-23 22:43:37 UTC
No. Mankind did not evolve from the common ancestor of both the ape and mankind. God made us whole and perfect in every way. This includes all species and lifeforms.



Genesis 1



11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.



12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.



20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.



21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.



23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.



24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.



25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.



29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.



30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.



31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Cath.Ian
2015-12-22 21:39:37 UTC
Yes to both questions.
Ravin
2015-12-23 08:42:01 UTC
Whatever you may believe, humans have always been humans, not monkeys.
?
2015-12-22 15:38:40 UTC
Both.
Atheist Christian
2015-12-22 15:06:06 UTC
Both.
Jackolantern
2015-12-24 07:22:57 UTC
Both.
Alan H
2015-12-24 09:52:27 UTC
Meaningless choice. One tells how, the other why
waddlin' along
2015-12-22 15:04:07 UTC
Neither, but much closer to the former than the latter.
2015-12-23 02:05:48 UTC
I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
2015-12-24 10:34:15 UTC
Please take some time to understand evolution then look up all the mountains of evidence for it.
❀✿☺Flowerchild☺✿❀
2015-12-22 15:38:53 UTC
we were made by God, dear.
2015-12-23 19:42:28 UTC
Why must it always be one or the other!
?
2015-12-23 19:05:32 UTC
Why must I choose "or"?
Bader
2015-12-25 22:27:04 UTC
god made us pal ;)
sarah
2015-12-23 16:03:22 UTC
You decide.
Sammy
2015-12-24 19:56:40 UTC
How about NEITHER!!
Ashley
2015-12-23 20:38:42 UTC
Wtf are you trying to do start world war 3??
✡mama pajama✡
2015-12-23 16:16:43 UTC
Homo sapiens ( modern humans ) evolved from other primate species, and homo sapiens as a species like all other life forms, continue to evolve.



Biological evolution and belief in a Creator deity do not need to conflict however, no form of theism is a part of scientific method is utilized in the discussioin of evolution and Biology.As long as there is reproduction with exchange of genetic material evolution happens. It happens to all living species. Evolution is how new species arrive, however, not all evolutionary changes lead to speciation and not all evolutionary changes are even beneficial. Some changes lead to extinction for a species. Some changes are advantageous for survival potential, many are benign, some harmful.

Intelligent Design, Creationism, whatever euphemisms anyone wishes to name the Genesis story of creation in attempt to interject religious dogma into public schools under the guise of science, simply does not work as science. This is why it has failed and shall continue to fail in any court of law to redefine Creationism or “Intelligent Design” as a science. Religious dogma cannot be considered an “alternative” to a scientific theory. Scientific Method is what determines if something is science or not. The theory of evolution is as true as germ theory, gravitational theory, and other theories of physics and math that enabled you to type this question onto a computer created through application of theories of math and physics. If one does not understand the definitions of the terms, or gives incorrect definitions and then finds fault with their own incorrect statements, this does not support claiming flaws in the theory. As I saw in a recent letter to a newspaper when a Creationism proponent gave his understanding of evolution to mean something that contradicts the scientific definition of evolutionary theory in several ways as, “A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually better or complex form”.

Perhaps some of his misunderstanding arises from using a definition that only applies to the common vernacular use of the word evolve as one would apply it to a conversation, or a story plot. However, that definition has no application in scientific terminology or to evolution as used with regard to biological processes. Evolution does NOT imply advancement or increasing complexity, nor to any direction when referring to the theory of evolution. Some evolutionary changes become more “complex”, others do not. Not all evolutionary changes lead to speciation. Most do not. Some changes are beneficial for survival potential, most changes are actually benign, and some lead to disadvantages in survival potential and eventually to "evolutionary dead ends" for the species.

A simple definition of evolutionary theory is the changes over time in the genetic constitution of species. Evolutionary theory explains how species change, and how new species appear.

Scientific method is the best method yet devised by the human mind to determine if something is real or not. This is why theories change when new evidence comes into play. That is what makes it SCIENCE. Creationism/Intelligent Design is religious dogma. It cannot be tested, it cannot be changed, and to do so is heresy. It is religion.

Religion is belief in a deity or deities, with dogma. Religion is a method to seek meaning beyond our mere mortal life existence, find connections on a spiritual level, and to fulfill a sense of purpose of existence. Science is a method of seeking knowledge of how the universe works and steps to test every new idea to see if it fits with observable and testable reality. One may seek and find knowledge by using both in their life. I do and I understand their differences and their limitations to connect to one another.

Theory isn't a guess in scientific method. Evolution is a cornerstone to understanding modern biology and medicine. As long as there is reproduction with exchange of genetic material, evolution happens. It doesn't require "believing in" but accepting the observed and tested reality. There has been absolutely NO debate in scientific circles over the reality of evolution for more than 70 years. What IS debated in Biology are the intricate details of the many processes involved in evolution. We know more about how evolution works than we do about GRAVITY. This "debate" between fundamentalist literalists and the scientific and medical community is NO different from the early medieval church condemning astronomers who put forth the notions of a heliocentric solar system.

I do not debate the now known fact of the solar system being heliocentric, nor do I debate the existence of germ theory as a means of spreading disease, or the existence of gravitational theory as a reality. I also do not debate the fact that as long as there is reproduction with exchange of genetic material in life forms, evolution happens. As long as life on earth exists, evolutionary theory is a fact.

I do not believe in evolution. It doesn't require faith but accepting the observed and tested reality.

Biology shows us that rather than life appearing on the planet *poof* in six literal days, as long as life exists, creation continues! As long as reproduction with exchange of genetic material happens, evolution happens. That is reality.

Biology does not support or negate a Creator.

Yet the same Torah that the Genesis creation story came out of is the same Torah those fundamentalist literalists reject in their commandments for Israel from God! They will argue viciously for the creation story to be taken as literal ,but just as adamantly argue that the commandments God gave Israel in the Torah that are repeated and stressed to be eternal, and that the covenant God declares a dozen times to be eternal, was "done away with" or "nailed to the cross". They've no problem ignoring that God said God doesn't become a man, and that no man becomes a god, or dismissing that God told Moses no one can take on the sin of another, but if you say that all life didn't appear on the planet as it is today in six literal days you're rejecting God. They will also insist that a literal belief in the creation story( from that text they argue has been superceded ) should be given a stauts of scientific theory or an “alternative” in a science class when it doesn’t fit scientific method. Religious dogma has no place in a science class.

Because a self-concept is often very strong, and they cannot reconcile the irreconcilable, they must resort to justify their belief with lies.

It really is NOT faith in a Creator/Creative force/God that is *threatened* in understanding biological processes of evolution, but in the fundamentalist literalist it is their SELF-CONCEPT that is threatened! I tested this over many years online. It is very rare when any "Creationist" would say YES to the following Yes or NO only simple question.

Are you an animal?

Most people will of course, say YES. Sometimes they will qualify it that our soul or spirit is different or that we have greater or different abilities, etc. But by definition, we are still animals. Almost all Creationists will give a knee jerk reaction that NO, we are human, and consider the term animal to be degrading.

When the very rare Creationist said "yes", it was ALWAYS with the qualifier that we are *above* and separate from all other animals. Well that changed the question a bit, but at least in a few, they recognized they were animals.

Our psyche is a wondrous thing. If our self-concept is threatened, the self-protective mechanism of denial kicks in to prohibit the shattering of self to be replaced by one that is unacceptable to them. That explains why they simply cannot see the literal mountains of observable, tested, verified, physical evidence that is SO VERY PLAIN to see to those whose self-concept is NOT threatened to know that they too are an animal affected by the same biological processes affecting all life. They are unable to consciously process things that would replace their self-concept with one that is degrading to them. Many of them are completely revolted by the notion that they are an animal. There is nothing inherently degrading about acceptance of our biological, mortal, physical self. Our very thoughts are electro-chemical processes. That I **believe** that an Omnipotent Creator set every process at work in the universe in place. That isn't my place in a science course to try to teach that. It makes no difference if one is atheist or theist in a science classroom; objective data reveals evolutionary processes and they are utilized daily in modern medicine.

If you sincerely want to know how evolution works, stop getting your information from clergy and start getting it from a study of biology.

I believe in God, that is my faith at work. I accept the reality of evolution. Faith is not involved in that.

I do not "believe in" evolution any more than I "believe in" germ theory. I know both theories explain facts of biological processes.

The Episcopal General Convention, the Unitarian-Universalist Association, the Central Conference of American Rabbis, the Lutheran Church, the Presbyterian Church, the United Presbyterian Church of the U.S.A, the Episcopal Diocese of Atlanta, the United Methodist Church, and the American Jewish Congress all have position statements speaking out against creationism posing as scientific method. "Intelligent Design" is a euphemism for creationism.

I am no more an "evolutionist" for accepting the reality of evolutionary process than I am a gravitationalist for accepting the reality of gravity, or a germist for accepting the reality of germ theory


This content was originally posted on Y! Answers, a Q&A website that shut down in 2021.
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