Question:
Christians, did you know scientologists think that you only believe in god because:?
anonymous
2009-03-20 02:15:07 UTC
Once upon a time, an alien ruler called Xenu had an overpopulation problem, so he took his excess citizens to earth, and blew them up with H-Bombs. In order to prevent their souls, called Thetans, from reincarnating, he captured them in special soul traps, and forced them to watch propaganda films containing depictions of fictional characters called God, the Devil, and Christ. After brainwashing, these souls clumped together in clusters, bound by the common experience of having seen the same film. Since there were few human bodies on earth, compared to the souls, these clusters of Thetans are in all of us, and the only reason we believe in God, Christ, and the Devil, is the film these Thetans saw 75 million years ago.
This is what Scientologists actually believe.
There are thousands of them.
HOW do you know they are all wrong?
Prove it.
Eighteen answers:
Strummer Boy (Drunken Lazy Bastard)
2009-03-20 02:20:55 UTC
They are wrong because Tom Cruise says they are right, and tom cruise is always wrong. thus scientology is a fail.
Anastasia
2009-03-20 02:25:17 UTC
Before the days of alt.religion.scientology exposing all of this, Scientologists were taught that anyone who read the OTIII before they went up the bridge properly and heard the story of Xenu would die of pneumonia.



Well, thanks to the a.r.s.c.c., the word got out. Then the lawsuits started, exposing not just Usenet users but juries and anyone who accessed public records the text of the OTIII. Guess what? Millions ended up reading them and no one died of pneumonia after reading about Xenu and the engrams, implants, body thetans, etc.



Therefore, as no one died of pneumonia, it is proof that L. Ron Hubbard told people that to make sure they had given up enough money and were brainwashed properly by the time they get that far up the bridge. Proving that he made it up.



Then of course, there is the geology involved. When L. Ron Hubbard wrote the OTIII, plate tectonics hadn't been accepted in the scientific community yet and people who were raised on the Bible, which was most of the population believed that the earth is as it was, is and ever more shall be. But it turns out all those volcanoes mentioned hadn't even formed islands 75 million years ago.



So the OTIII is an epic fail.
minou
2009-03-24 01:40:01 UTC
Let me guess, Tom Cruise was the star actor in those films(once upon a time)? And for thousands of ordinary people(the like of Tom Cruise and John Travolta being ordinary LOL) trickink us? What about the real billions of Christians? It seems that the number is much bigger, don't you think? Why do you know we are all wrong? Prove it.
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2016-11-02 04:09:11 UTC
before everything, the significant Bang hypothesis enables the thought this universe had taking off. Secondly, philosophically one ought to allure to the 1st reason Argument: "in all likelihood the main stated arguments for God's life are the ''5 procedures” of Thomas Aquinas. one in each and every of them is the argument from layout, which we appeared at final week. the choice 4 are fashions of the ''first purpose” argument, which we hit upon suitable here. The argument is somewhat incredibly uncomplicated: each and every thing needs a data. no longer something in simple terms is. the coolest deal has some “sufficient reason” why it particularly is. representation: My parents delivered on me, my grandparents brought about them, etc. even even with the shown fact that it is not that straightforward. i would not be here without billions of factors, from the enormous Bang interior the direction of the cooling of the galaxies and the evolution of the protein molecule to the marriages of my ancestors. So the universe is a enormous and complicated chain of factors. yet does the universe as a entire have a reason? Is there a common reason, an uncaused purpose, of the entire technique? If now no longer, then there may well be an “countless regress” of aspects, without first link interior the intense-high quality cosmic chain. if so, then there's a common reason, an eternal, independent, self-explanatory Being with no longer something above it, in the previous it or assisting it. it ought to have have been given to offer a proof for itself as nicely because of the fact the coolest deal else — for if it necessary in spite of else as its clarification, then it would not be the 1st purpose. such a Being might must be God. If we are able to coach there must be this variety of First reason, we will have proved there's a God. If there's no First reason, then the universe is nearly a railroad coach moving without an engine. each and every vehicle's action is defined, proximately, interior the direction of the flow of the motor vehicle in front of it: The cabin motor vehicle strikes considering that the boxcar pulls it: the boxcar strikes for the reason that the farm animals motor vehicle pulls it: and a super sort of others. even even with the shown fact that there's no engine to pull the 1st vehicle, and for this reason the full instruct. that must be no longer achievable, of direction. yet that's what the universe is like if there's no longer any First reason." Peter Kreeft
reinadelaz
2009-03-20 02:24:41 UTC
I really do not care what Scientologists think about us. As you well know we cannot prove anything to the satisfaction of the spiritual cynic, but I will gladly take my chances that the organization founded by a science fiction writer, who had previously publicly stated that a good way to get rich is to start a religion, does not have the truth. God bless.

That grl: It comes from a book by L. Ron Hubbard called 'Dianetics.'
The_Cricket: Thinking Pink!
2009-03-20 02:32:42 UTC
I can't prove them wrong, but yes, I did know this. The reason I choose to disbelieve it is because Hubbard invented the whole thing in the 1950s. And everyone knows that Hubbard was a kook, a liar, and a crook.
anonymous
2009-03-23 23:57:53 UTC
No, I can't prove it's not true, although it sounds totally ludacris and most ridiculous, BUT...!

YOU cannot prove IT IS true, and neither can Tom Cruise, who is NOT always right, mind you. He's only human if he was infallible and neer wrong he would have never married Nicole Kidman because he would have known their marriage would end in divorce. He'd have known she was NOT his soul-mate BEFORE their marriage ended.
Twilight Heathen
2009-03-23 18:17:03 UTC
Hmm, I don't believe in Scientology, I'm a Trekkie and follow the Great Bird of the Galaxy....
thatgrl
2009-03-20 02:24:38 UTC
TOM CRUISE!!!! I can't prove them wrong since it's all just beliefs, but i would like to know where they got all of this information. Christians have the bible to get the info. where do scientologists get their info???
Scott V
2009-03-20 02:20:17 UTC
How do I know? Because overpopulation is a myth and isn't actually a real word.
anonymous
2009-03-20 02:18:29 UTC
Does it matter? Religion is religion, it's most likely wrong from the beginning. Besides there's always a chance that no one is right.
aristotlesrules
2009-03-24 01:41:59 UTC
And I am supposed to? What someone believes or disbelieves does not affect my choice.
anonymous
2009-03-22 21:26:57 UTC
hahah thats pretty funny. thats a good explanation for it all, though i dont endorse this belief. lol
STUDLY
2009-03-20 02:29:44 UTC
Freaky stuff..hay ? I can't believe,. In this day and age, that people believe in this ****. Go figure???
anonymous
2009-03-20 02:20:15 UTC
scientologists are freaking brainwashers they try to trick you





thats bullcrap
graphix
2009-03-20 02:18:57 UTC
yeah, religion is man made brainwashing. no religion is exempt from this.
anonymous
2009-03-20 10:45:30 UTC
Are you telling us this out of the goodness of your heart, or is it because you just want to sow discord beteen Christians and Scientologists?



EXODUS 20:16.



16. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."



EXODUS 23:1-5.



"THOU shalt not raise a false report:

put not thine hand with the Wicked

to be an Unrighteous Witness.

2. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do Evil;

neither shalt thou speak in a cause

to decline after many to wrest Judgment:

3. "Neither shalt thou countenance

a poor man in his cause.

4. "If thou meet thine enemy's

ox or his *** going astray,

thou shalt surely bring it back to him again.

5. "If thou see the *** of him that hateth thee

lying under his burden,

and wouldest forbear to help him,

thou shalt surely help with him."



LEVITICUS 19:15-18.



15. "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment:

thou shalt not respect the person of the poor,

nor honor the person of the mighty:

but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

16. "Thou shalt not go up and down

as a talebearer among thy people:

neither shalt thou stand against

the blood of thy neighbour;

I am the LORD.

17. "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:

thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy Neighbour,

and not suffer sin upon him.

18. "Thou shalt not avenge,

nor bear any grudge against the Children of thy People,

but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD."



YOU DO NOT CARE about God, about Jesus, about The Spiritual Realm, or about the Salvation of Man. You just care about your own fun. L. Ron Hubbard did not. He cared about raising the consciousness of Mankind far enough that we were not wiped out in Nuclear Armageddon during the Cold War, and he did his part toward achieving that goal.



The problem with having a fixed goal, is that by the time they are achieved, you have no further motivation, and tend to die off. That was his unfortunate fate. It is for us to continue where he left off, and perfect what he began.



ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE XENU SCENARIO.



This ONLY those Scientologists who are qualified to take OT (Operating Thetan) 3 are authorized to HEAR ANYTHING about any "XENU." The information about Xenu reaching the public did so only because of the breach of trust by those members privileged to know this level of Psychic Truth.



To use a comparable magnitude, if someone were to drop out of advanced scientific studies, and rallying a jury of illiterate men-in-the-street wanted to denounce, say, Advanced level Mathematics as a fraud, Atomic Physics as a fraud, Astrophysics as a fraud- showing up the elaborate formulae as "rubbish" and "gibberish with no bearing on reality whatsoever," it would be easily for him to do so, with a jury of his peers- people who didn't understand this level of knowledge either. ESPECIALLY IF THE PROFESSORS DID NOT WANT TO EXPLAIN THEMSELVES.



What we have heard about Xenu came about as a result of a Breach of Trust by those entrusted with the information. Whether or not it is TRUE is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. Scientology is designed to enable one's ability to perceive WHERE PERCEPTION WAS HITHERTO IMPOSSIBLE. The fine-tuning of perception is at the student's discretion. If your sight were restored from complete blindness, you would not shoot your Alternative Medical Doctors because you saw colours reversed, or worse, men as women and vice-versa.



This is a very bad abberation of vision, by any standard, but relative to absolute blindness, it is a veritable godsend.



The XENU scenario does not occur in a vacuum. If L. Ron Hubbard *saw* Xenu and a Space Opera, an OPERATING THETAN has to *see* them, too. There is a spiritual phenomenon that forces such a vision upon one. This is THE WALL OF FIRE. The data that one is forced to *see* does not have to be the FINAL EVALUATION- it is just a way of HANDLING those energies, to get through the Wall.



L. Ron Hubbard cautiously believed that to communicate the details of the Wall of Fire vision would KILL any ordinary person. What he did not take into account was the fortunate fact that HE COULDN'T communicate the vision to someone who was not equally psychic.

All he was doing was conveying a string of noises.

If he were able to transfer the actual vision to an ordinary person's psyche, so that they would see what he saw, the way he saw it, underlined and delineated in energies to extreme for an ordinary Human to process, THEY WOULD SURELY DIE.



It is good that in this case at least, L. Ron Hubbard erred on the side of caution. Had there been a massacre or holocaust as a result of the leakage of OT III, the same people laughing and jeering would have been leading the lynch squad to burn him alive. They do not care whether people were in mortal jeopardy or not, but they only wanted to find something they could use to accuse L. Ron Hubbard with.
chichoy
2009-03-20 02:20:32 UTC
do you have a school?


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