would christians still reject carbon dating if it could be used to authenticate their religion?

Question

for example if they could find part of noahs ark and then prove that it came from the correct period

im sure there are better examples but i cant think of any

maybe you could suggest ways in which it could be used

Answer 1

Science is always acceptable when it agrees with, or conveniences them.

Answer 2

Here is the thing with carbon dating. We don't think that it doesn't work at all. What we know is that carbon dating and potassium carbon dating are only accurate up to around 200,000 years. After that , the isotopes being measured have depleated to the point that they are no longer measurable. So when scientists claim that they have carbon dated or dated something by these methods ,and determined that they are 1 million year old fossils or whatever, then they are only guessing. They can only know up to 200,000 years with any accuracy. After that, they look to the surrounding rock and dirt that the object was found and use guessing to predict how old the rock layers took to form. They , however have no real way to tell. If they used their methods, then the pyroclastic flows that layered rock and sediment deposits in Washington state, when Mt. St. Helens erupted in the 1980's, Then they would have determined that the deposits had formed over at least a hundred years to make each individual layer. Yet the reality is that it formed in a matter of a few days after the eruption. So science may think they know how long it took to make a layer of rock, but they really cannot tell. So if science wants to date something to within the past 200,000 years or so, then I will gladly take it, for the most part, as fact and truth. Yet, as we all know, human error and limited scientific method always leave a percentage of error. Even some pregnancy tests or cancer tests turn up a negative, when the truth is positive(or vice a versa or false positive). Yet for the great majority, the test is accurate. But we must not forget that there is always the chance of error.

Answer 3

The acceptance or rejection of carbon dating is not on the basis fo what it can or can not authenticate. It is done on a scientific basis. And by those who are not religious. Carbon dating has in the past been a mainstay of geology and archaeology - but an enormous peak discovered in the amount of carbon-14 in the atmosphere between 45 thousand and 11 thousand years ago casts doubt on the biological carbon cycle that underpins the technique. The study led by physicist Warren Beck of the University of Arizona, US, could also affect estimates of how quickly the Earth can re-absorb the excess carbon dioxide generated by fossil fuels.This raises questions about the accuracy of carbon dating.



Maybe a good sitefor you (if you can understand it) would be www.physicsworld.com

Answer 4

Petrified wood has been found on Mount Ararat that seems to Carbon-Date to under 10,000 years or so, consistent with Noah's Ark, which is believed to be trapped in the Glacier up there.



I thought this significantly impressive, until I learned that Carbon Dating can be used to "prove" any date you want. Therefore, I reject all Carbon Dating.



We will not be BRIBED to accept a LIE!

Answer 5

right here's the element with carbon relationship. we do not imagine that it would not artwork in any respect. What all of us understand is that carbon relationship and potassium carbon relationship are in straight forward words precise as a lot as round 2 hundred,000 years. After that , the isotopes being measured have depleated to the point that they are literally no longer measurable. So at the same time as scientists declare that they have got carbon dated or dated some thing by using those techniques ,and determined that they're a million million 365 days previous fossils or regardless of, then they are in straight forward words guessing. they could in straight forward words understand as a lot as 2 hundred,000 years with any accuracy. After that, they look to the encircling rock and dirt that the object changed into discovered and use guessing to foretell how previous the rock layers took to variety. They , regardless of the indisputable fact that don't have any genuine thanks to inform. in the experience that they used their techniques, then the pyroclastic flows that layered rock and sediment deposits in Washington state, at the same time as Mt. St. Helens erupted contained in the 1980's, Then they could have determined that the deposits had shaped over a minimum of 100 years to make each and each and every human being layer. yet in fact that it shaped in a count number of a few days after the eruption. So technology may imagine they understand how lengthy it took to make a layer of rock, yet they extremely can not tell. So if technology needs as a lot as now some thing to in the previous 2 hundred,000 years or so, then i will gladly take it, for the most section, as truth and truth. yet, as all of us understand, human mistakes and constrained medical technique always go away a share of mistakes. Even some being pregnant checks or maximum cancers checks ensue a adverse, at the same time as in fact efficient(or vice a versa or pretend efficient). yet for the large majority, the try is precise. yet we ought to no longer ignore that there is often the prospect of mistakes.

Answer 6

if carbon dating were only used to authenticate Christianity then they wouldn't mind. but the the issue is that it only raises more questions. if they did find say "noah's ark" then it wouldn't prove their was a noah.

Answer 7

cabon dating is not rejected by christians. if you know anything about carbon dating methods, you will also know that it is only useful in trying to date organic matter, or things which were once alive. it is not an exact science and cannot date anything older than about 50,000 years.



but christians do not reject carbon dating and in fact have used it to try to date items such as the shroud of turin and other religious relics.

Answer 8

Of course, they need all the evidence they can get.



Though I should point out, if someone found a piece of Noah's ark, proving the date would not be the main priority, the main priority would be proving it actually was from a boat designed to carry 2 of every animal in the world, and I think that would be impossible.

Answer 9

Christians for one do not live by sight but by faith. the righteous shall be saved by faith. scientists DIScover what God had covered to be discovered at the inappropriate time. the prophet Isaiah spoke of a round/spherical world before Ferdinand Magellan and co circumvented the earth to even know its shape. if only the world had trusted in the words of God through his prophet.



so carbon dating is not what Christians would depend on whether helpful or not. is Just Jesus Christ in God through the bible. amen

Answer 10

Look the problem with carbon dating is that it's accuracy has been proven to be spotty at best. A few years ago there was a Mammoth found in Siberia, now this in of itself is really not that big a deal, seeing as this was not the first time a carcase was found in the ice. Now this is where things get interesting. The team took three samples from the animal and didn't mark on the samples that they were from the same specimen, They they sent all three samples to the lab for carbon dating. The bone sample came back at around 10000 to 12000 years old. The skin sample came back at 15000 to 18000 years old and the fur sample came back at over 20000 years old. Now one of two thing happened. Either the lab results were a dismal failure or this critter was walking around for at least 3000 years with out skin. Which one do you think ?

Answer 11

Clearly conclusions that are in harmony with any person's world view would be more likely accepted. How do you explain the woolly mammoths found close to the arctic circle frozen solid and fit to eat, with green in their mouths and stomachs? That phenomenon is contrary to evolutionary theory, so it was just ignored.

Answer 12

Most don't reject it. For part of a nuclear class I had to prove the half-life of carbon then date a 30000 year old piece of wood. Still I am a Christian. Imagine that.

Answer 13

Well, the Ark is exactly where it is for a reason..Had it been any lower down the slopes it would have been warmer and the wood would have disintegrated but it is in a hollow partly submerged in an ice cave and is therefore protected by ice and snow and the altitude.



And as it gets closer to the end times, and thawing takes place at a greater rate, we will be able to carbon date the gopher wood used.



But we do not base our faith in organic matter...we base it on faith in Jesus Christ, our coming King..

He is all we need and when He returns at the Second Coming, EVERY EYE SHALL SEE AND EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW..... and that is proof enough for God does not make mistakes... and in the meantime, we have the Rapture !...but that is another part of the story !!!

Answer 14

We reject carbon dating because



- scientists reject carbon dating based on un inaccuracy/inconsistency of the results



- carbon 14 radio isotopes have not yet reached equilibrium in the atmosphere which is why a dating method that relies on it will always be faulty



- dating two parts of the same frozen mammoth yields a difference of over 25,000 years for an animal less than 40,000 years old, which is more than a 50% margin of error.





If you had a personal relationship with your wife, would you need carbon dating to reassure you that she's real?



If they had radio metric dating of any kind with evidence for Noah's ark, I've been around this sort of thing long enough to know that they'd be attempting to lure me into a bate-and-switch scenario.



The things of history are true because they are true. Radio metric dating has NEVER worked. For ANY method, they only accept dates than align with the preco ceived dates of the geologic column, and they have to throw out 90% of their results before they achieve the one they can live with.



If someone offered radio-metric dating to "authenticate" an historical biblical fact, I would just yawn and go fishing.

Answer 15

In my admittedly limited experience, those Christians who reject radiometric dating are VERY quick to support specific instances of radiometric dating when it validates their religious beliefs.

Answer 16

It seems to be a convenient practice, if science agrees with scripture then all is well, but to prove the ancient age of the planet ...nope.

Answer 17

How do you think the Dead Sea scrolls were dated?



The only reason they pick on radiocarbon dating when trying to "disprove" that the Earth is older than their book of fables says is because it is the easiest to misuse of all the dating methods. You almost never hear them talk about the more robust and easy to use dating methods.



When used properly, and not on things like mollusks or things more than a few thousand years old, radiocarbon dating works just fine and agrees with all other dating methods.



Edit: And Matthew just proved my point. Using it on a mollusk to "disprove" it. Scientists are well aware of the "reservoir effect" that occurs with carbon in the shells of those animals, and why it makes that dating method useless.

Answer 18

In other words, you are wanting to know if we would accept carbon dating if it were correct, instead of wrong?



Because Bible believers know that the earth is 5772 years old, and we know that most fossils are a result of the global flood 4400 years old, I can not suggest any ways in which such dating methods would in any way, shape, or form authenticate our faith.



If you could get it to work accurately, then those who put their faith in carbon dating now - well they would stop believing in it. In fact, that could be said of all of the Scientific dating methods.

Answer 19

The precision of carbon dating is not great. However the error of margin will never be large enough that the age of the earth is wrong by billions of years.

Regardless of this there are many more methods of determining the age of rocks that use the deterioration of radioactive half life. None of these indicate anything close to 10 thousand years.

Sorry creationists.

Answer 20

I should hope not, as carbon dating is notoriously unreliable. Other forms of radiometric dating, however, are acceptable. Uranian-Lead dating has a great track record.

Answer 21

Its already been authenticated through the resurrection!

Answer 22

People are typically more likely to accept evidence when it supports their hypothesis. Bad science, but very common. So the answer is yes.

Answer 23

You don't get it-the Bible is proof and evidence enough. The flood waters turned to ice and trapped

many tropical animals at the poles. a wooly mammoth was found fully preserved.









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Answer 24

Of course not. In general, people are bias.

Answer 25

As for hypothetical questions, this one is a real stretch.

Answer 26

That would actually verify carbon dating, since we know how old Noah's ark is.

Answer 27

I don't think they reject it cause they won't go to college

Answer 28

Why wouldn't they pick and choose science? In fact they do. Christianity is all about picking and choosing. They even pick and choose within their own scripture.

Answer 29

King James Version Bible





John Chapter 5



43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.



44. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that [cometh] from God only?

Answer 30

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(laughing so hard I'm secreting blood from my palms)

Answer 31

>A living mollusc was carbon dated, and it showed that it died 3,000 years ago. lol



No it didn't. It showed that the material that made it's shell was 3,000 years old.



You *are* actually this stupid aren't you?

Answer 32

I'm sure that they would. I've found that religions (especially christianity) deny anything that goes against their religion, but support anything that supports it, especially when it comes to science.

Answer 33

No all good science will agree with truth! God's word is truth!

Answer 34

Doesnt matter-Bible doesnt give earth's age&Ev has huge holes=no common ancestor. Ppl CONFUSE TRUTH(offends many)/HATE/impose human limits(many ways seem right but its end=death=only 1 true path)/labels 2 God's abilities(call Ev whats ONLY Adapt)=dumb limits-God's Creation order isnt as man thinks/24hr day NOT MADE TILL 4th day/Adam=1rst chosen not necess 1rst human. Scientific-method cant prove BB/BBnc/Ev/Abiog theories-billions of yrs old COLD cases/DIDNT SEE it done. W/o UNCUT film 4 b4 BB/life 2 2day=spec-1 species' parts in another r just more species. Ev's a lie/calls in2 ? BB/Abiog-universe/we wouldnt exist w/o IDr:



1~We hv 2 lungs/kidneys/ears, arms/legs-each has a NEAR PERFECT 3D MIRROR-IMAGE companion organ/limb(NOT A COPY). RNA/DNA rep/mirror image amino acid prod CANT EXPLAIN IT AWAY. 2 make mirror-image organs takes FULL REVERSE ENGINEERING/knowledge of companion's functions/purpose or it cant b created 2 perfection in nature(2 WITNESSES in nature=KILLS Ev/Abiog).

2~Our bodies r highly symmetrical 1 side 2 the other-impossible w/o an outside overview pov 4 full knowledge of whole life-form.

3~Cells/organisms r just copies of, copy parents'/all ancestors' acts. U wont find a bird building a better nest than parents/chicks build even better nests/bears passing better life 2 cubs. Cells HV 2 LIVES-1 copying parents/1 SECRET, working on improvements or God's the Creator.

4~Fossil record doesnt hv millions of trial/error phyla that should exist if NS/fittest survivor is Creation source-odds r so great against near perfection 4 many millions of greatly diverse species, such precision cant happen w/o 1rst having full knowledge 4 what 2 do(even adding billions of yrs byond universe start cant solve problem). If not true millions more misfits with mistakes-having only 1/3 eyes in odd places/1 leg growing out of a head/where a fin/arm/wing should b, etc would exist than perfection seen in nature.

5~Picture u boxed(+near 0 intell)within a microscopic cell-smaller than a txt period/no way 2 sense much beyond ur cell. How can u, with these real limits invent millions of such diverse species 2 perfection in nature? NO OTHER ORGANISMS EXISTED so cells r great geniuses or Ev's a lie.

6~Cells need DNA 2 function/DNA's useless w/o a cell-which came 1rst a cell or DNA? DNA's very complex(esp 4 higher lifeforms)so odds against figuring out/using DNA(in correct sequences/related processes)is many magnitudes higher than 4 pc program code-useless w/o an IDr 2 identify/assign its proper order. Give apes books-cant learn from whats written w/o intell. DNA's COMMON 2 ALL LIFE-98% of other species' DNA doesnt=Ev.

7~Look@ID/knowledge, time/energy used 2 create/improve(many mistakes)airplanes. If ppl didnt learn what 2 do we'd still b grounded.

8~Creation's astronomically more complex than airplanes-more complex an organism multiplies ID/knowledge needed 2 create it-Creation source is God or it couldnt exist let alone evolve(adapt not Ev built in 4 survival).

9~Earth has best orbit/gravity/axis/spin/atmosphere, magnet field, water/moon has right size/orbit 4 tidal cycles/many foods tasting good, 4 life~1-2 small diffs 4 orbits/environment=most likely life'd b diff/higher lifeforms die in short time if it survived.



MICRO ADAPT's legit not macro-Ev. Most is inconclusive@best/pure conjecture@worst. Ev processes being Creation source=blind man building a car he's never heard of/seen/touched/heard or rode in-cant b done w/o 1rst teaching him about functions/all parts/car assembly 4 it 2 work(same limits 4 cells=no Ev).



Only 1 God can occupy infinity-God of Israel=NO CAUSE NEEDED 2 EXIST/declare end from start-only fully proved b/c Jesus is God's Son. Jesus couldnt hv done whats in NT w/o knowing whole OT(impossible w/o God causing it-NT didnt exist yet)/Apostles couldnt write NT w/o Jesus having them remember all He did-Lk 24:25-27,45).



Most religions r built on ideas/gods man likes-CANT ALL B RIGHT(only 1 Bible-why so many interps? II Pet 1:19-21). Religion doesnt=the truth/cant teach much about God(cant teach what u don't know). NO1 can live W/O BREAKING God's eternal LAW=sin-separates us from God=death-why u need 2 b rightly Born Anew in Jesus. Who knows more about a house-the Builder or ppl moving in later?



God outsmarted us: reading the Bible(religious/not)u cant find Jesus w/o Bible directions-Jn 5:39/10:1,7/3:3,5/only a Bible cant b rightly known w/o Jesus(Jn 14:6/II Cor 3:14/Is 29:11-12~if Jewish ppl cant unveil OT w/o Jesus all gentiles cant=why many interps exist/called fairy tales). God knew many'd twist His word&used unchangeable system(like God/Jesus/Prv 30:4-6). God's 66 legit Bible Bks/mindset/message 4ever binds OT/NT truth 2 His system. ESV is easiest Bible 2 read.



In history only Jesus said He's the way/truth/life-no1 sees God w/o Him(Jn 14:6/5:39/Act 4:12)=All new/other claims r false/godless or Jesus is 1 more false prophet 2 ignore.



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Answer 35

Christians aren't against science you know. We just believe it isn't the answer for everything. :)

I think that is a good idea actually.

Answer 36

Of course not. They use it all the time for certain religious symbols.

Answer 37

Carbon dating has validated Christianity

Answer 38

already authenticated

Answer 39

Christians hide from public knowledge the real Bible story of Jesus, although there is no trace of historical evidence that he ever existed.



Mat 1:18

This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was PLEDGED TO BE MARRIED to Joseph, but before they came together*

(*they didn’t have any sex yet. She was too young, but ALAS…!)



she was found to be with child through the Holy Ghost*.

(*Holy Joe busted the Horny Virgin Mary 6 months into her pregnancy)



==

The JEWISH Law says:



Deut 22:23-25

If a man*

(*like God the Holy Ghost)



happens to meet in a town a virgin PLEDGED TO BE MARRIED*

(*like the Virgin Mary was to Holy Joe)



and he sleeps with her*

(*has sex! Like when the Holy Ghost got Mary pregnant)



you shall take both of them… and STONE THEM TO DEATH--the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help*

(*The Horny Virgin Mary was not one bit cautious accepting the indecent proposal of a perfect stranger masquerading as an ANGEL OF LIGHT -2Cor11:14, the virtual Holy Pimp Saint Gabriel working on behalf of a shy God the Holy Ghost)



and the man because he violated another man's wife*.

(*according to “God’s Law,” the Holy Ghost and the Horny Virgin Mary, with the Holy Fetus Jesus Christ inside her belly, should have been stoned to death!)



Deut 23:2

A BASTARD*

(*SOB)



shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD…*

(*God is too Holy to deal with any BASTARD, but hey, Jesus Christ is OK!)



==

Angels in the sky were announcing the birth of Jesus Christ “The King of the Jews,” but he didn’t really want to be their king!



Luk 2:10-11

the angel said to them*

(*Jews)



"DO NOT BE AFRAID*

(*except for the children under 2 years of age that had to be slaughtered)



I bring you GOOD NEWS*

(*just kidding…)



of great joy*

(*HoHoHo! Hey, it’s Xmas!)



that will be for all the people…*

(*Christians! Not for any Jewish mother of the slaughtered children that not even God the Holy Ghost, aka The COMFORTER, was able to cheer up! --Mat 2:18. BTW, he dropped out of sight after getting the Horny Virgin Mary pregnant!)



Mat 2:16

Then Herod… was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and SLEW ALL THE CHILDREN… 2 years old and under…*

(*only Saint John the Baptist was lucky to survive! Holy Joe had a dream and woke up in the middle of the night to take Mary and the child Jesus by burro, over 200 miles away to Egypt. The Horny Virgin Mary couldn’t wait getting there!)



Eze 23:20-21

There she lusted after her lovers, whose GENITALS WERE LIKE THOSE OF DONKEYS AND WHOSE EMISSION WAS LIKE THAT OF HORSES*

(*God endowed the Egyptian studs like no other people in the WORLD!!!)



So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled*

(*the Jewish girls had a real good time during their slavery in Egypt. Any Jew claiming to be purebred is joking!)



Jer 42:18-19

This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: 'As my anger and wrath have been poured out on those who lived in Jerusalem, so will my wrath be poured out on you when you go to Egypt… "O remnant of Judah*

(*ALL JEWS, including the Virgin Mary)



the LORD has told you, 'DO NOT GO TO EGYPT.' BE SURE OF THIS: I WARN YOU TODAY!”*

(*but of course, if the Horny Virgin Mary wants to go to Egypt ONE MORE TIME…it’s perfectly OK! Heck, she is the Holy Mother of God and the Queen of Heaven! That must be the reason why Jesus favors the Prostitutes and the Sodomites above the Jews that he came to save and be their king. It’s all in the family!)



Mat 21:31

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth*

(*finally no more bull crapping!)



the PROSTITUTES

(*all the active Prostitutes, including gay and Lesbian harlots)



are entering the Kingdom of God*

(*before Jesus Christ had a chance to be crucified for anybody!)



ahead of you*

(*the poor Jews)



==

Heaven will be full of all sorts of eminent Prostitutes.



The RIGHTEOUS Palestinian PROSTITUTE Rahab, she is Israel’s national heroine (Heb11:31,Jam2:25).



Ms Hosea, the hot Prostitute helping write the Bible (Hos3:2-3).



Jephthah’s mom, she trained his son to become a national hero in Israel for sacrificing his young virgin daughter by fire unto God Jehovah (Jdg11:1).



The Prostitute that wouldn’t stop kissing Jesus feet for hours (Luk7:45).



The horny mother who was proud having sex in Church with her own son (1Cor5:1-2).



They are all in Heaven with Jesus waiting to be of service to Christians after the rapture.

Answer 40

A living mollusc was carbon dated, and it showed that it died 3,000 years ago. lol

Answer 41

if it was 100% correct. I would, but we all know it is not

Answer 42

i'm sure they wouldn't trolololololololol =3