Question:
Have you ever heard of the "Miraculous Staircase of St. Joseph",the stairs with no support? Miracle?
The Holy Shroud of Turin
2013-07-02 13:36:53 UTC
Two mysteries surround the spiral staircase in the Loretto Chapel: the identity of its builder and the physics of its construction.

When the Loretto Chapel was completed in 1878, there was no way to access the choir loft twenty-two feet above. Carpenters were called in to address the problem, but they all concluded access to the loft would have to be via ladder as a staircase would interfere with the interior space of the small Chapel.

Legend says that to find a solution to the seating problem, the Sisters of the Chapel made a novena to St. Joseph, the patron saint of carpenters. On the ninth and final day of prayer, a man appeared at the Chapel with a donkey and a toolbox looking for work. Months later, the elegant circular staircase was completed, and the carpenter disappeared without pay or thanks. After searching for the man (an ad even ran in the local newspaper) and finding no trace of him, some concluded that he was St. Joseph himself, having come in answer to the sisters' prayers.

The stairway's carpenter, whoever he was, built a magnificent structure. The design was innovative for the time and some of the design considerations still perplex experts today.

The staircase has two 360 degree turns and no visible means of support. Also, it is said that the staircase was built without nails—only wooden pegs. Questions also surround the number of stair risers relative to the height of the choir loft and about the types of wood and other materials used in the stairway's construction.

Over the years many have flocked to the Loretto Chapel to see the Miraculous Staircase. The staircase has been the subject of many articles, TV specials, and movies including "Unsolved Mysteries" and the television movie titled "The Staircase."

http://www.lorettochapel.com/staircase.html
Seven answers:
?
2013-07-02 13:39:15 UTC
Stairs with no VISIBLE support.

If this is a miracle, then so is a Space Shuttle.
?
2016-08-07 11:12:02 UTC
The devoted are much invested within the idea of miracles, on account that they see any so-called marvelous event as constructive proof of their god's energy to do what's inconceivable for mere guys and females. If you worship a god, it's profoundly foremost that you simply make investments him with puissance. What can be the usage of kneeling down to pray to a deity that had only every day powers? All phenomena which might be called miraculous have logical, commonly scientific explanations. Every single "miracle" attributed to an individual through the Catholic church in the method of bestowing sainthood is a bit of nonsense. The practice absolutely makes the trustworthy think excellent about their beliefs though, does not it?
?
2013-07-02 13:44:49 UTC
"Legend says..."



No, no miracle. Myth.



"Some more recent studies are critical of the supposed "miraculous" nature of the staircase. It has been claimed to be unsafe since its helix shape may make it oscillate just like a very large spring. As to its apparent ability to stand without a newel (central pole) support, this argument proceeds on a faulty premise that all spiral staircases need a central support. In fact, they do not,[citation needed] and lateral or outer supports can be effectively substituted for a central support. However, this staircase appears to have a concealed central support, an inner wood stringer of a very small radius that, because of its small size, functions effectively as a central pole. This technique is well known. The staircase also has an additional outer support to one of the columns that support the loft. This support was added later."



So, once again, people ignorant of facts claim "it's a miracle," when it's not. Don't you get tired of being wrong?
james o
2013-07-02 13:40:58 UTC
It's remarkable, but hardly a miracle. The carpenter was highly skilled.



You think that this is the only staircase built this way???



There's a huge staircase in a home near me that also appears to have no support. Google is your friend; I just have glossed through about fifteen articles that all explain that your miracle staircase is not miraculous in the theological sense, although it certainly is a wonderful work of art, and that is nothing to sneeze at. Why not be content with what is, rather than trying to build up what is into something it is not?
marsel_duchamp
2013-07-02 13:44:16 UTC
I have seen it. Its support is its own structure. Very clever and superior workmanship but not miraculous. Also as built there was no hand rail attached. That was added later. Pretty scary ascending stairs like that with no handrail, especially in a nun's habit.
Neshama
2013-07-02 14:39:36 UTC
Oh, yeah...really cool. Now, tell me what you think of this:



Cardinal Timothy Dolan is under fire after news broke that he hid $57 million from the victims of the Roman Catholic Church’s pedophile priest sexual abuse victims. In 2007, then the Archbishop of Milwaukee, Dolan transferred $57 million into a cemetery trust fund after seeking permission from the Vatican. Dolan is now serving as the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), making him the nation’s top Catholic.



So says the New York Times in a bombshell disclosure of after the release of “more than 6,000 pages of documents.” The Times reports that Dolan in the past refereed to these claims, made previously, as “malarkey” and “groundless gossip.”



Cardinal Dolan, now the archbishop of New York, has emphatically denied seeking to shield church funds as the archbishop of Milwaukee from 2002 to 2009. He reiterated in a statement Monday that these were “old and discredited attacks.”



However, the files contain a 2007 letter to the Vatican in which he explains that by transferring the assets, “I foresee an improved protection of these funds from any legal claim and liability.” The Vatican approved the request in five weeks, the files show.



Those files also show that “Milwaukee harbored some of the nation’s most notorious priest pedophiles, including the Rev. Lawrence Murphy, whom a church therapist assessed as having molested as many as 200 boys during his two and a half decades teaching and leading St. John’s School for the Deaf in St. Francis, Wis., and Sigfried Widera, who faced 42 counts of child abuse in Wisconsin and California,” the Times reports:



Father Murphy died in 1998, and Father Widera committed suicide in Mexico in 2003.



In his letter, Archbishop Listecki said the documents showed that 22 priests were “reassigned to parish work after concerns about their behavior were known to the archdiocese,” and that 8 of those “reoffended after being reassigned.”



Joseph Amodeo, who resigned last year from the board of NYC’s Catholic Charities, told The New Civil Rights Movement last night via electronic message that the “recent revelations regarding Dolan’s attempts to shield assets from victims of sexual abuse further demonstrate that the veil of secrecy that has plagued the Church must be lifted.”



“We can no longer along allow a Church that claims moral authority to hide behind tactics that subvert the essence of justice. Morality must be lived in order for it to be true. Perhaps the time has come for the laity to organize a Fortnight for Justice for the victims of sexual abuse and all those who have been further marginalized by the Church’s hierarchy.”



Amodeo earlier this year lead a small group of silent Catholic protestors who were threatened with arrest by a New York City Police detective, unless they first washed their hands. The group was responding to Dolan’s blog post in which he told gay people who wish to participate in the Catholic faith, you must first “wash your hands!”



The files released yesterday also show Dolan “paid $20,000 to abusive priests who agreed not to fight their dismissal from the priesthood” once they were found out to have committed sexual abuse acts, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal reports in this shocking report:



In the decades before Dolan — now cardinal of New York — arrived in 2002, church leaders, including now-retired Archbishop Rembert Weakland, routinely moved pedophile priests from one parish or school to the next, shielding them from criminal charges, the records show.



And when they did try to dismiss sex abusers from the priesthood, Dolan and Weakland were met by a Vatican bureaucracy that moved at a glacial pace, causing the process to slog on sometimes for years.



One case, involving the now-defrocked Father John O’Brien, dragged on for five years, even though O’Brien was convicted of fourth-degree sexual assault of a teenage boy and had sought his own dismissal. At one point a Vatican official wrote to Dolan saying he could not turn the case over to Pope Benedict XVI for a final decision without “an admission of guilt and a sincere expression of remorse.”
2013-07-02 14:25:06 UTC
there was a movie made about the story , I forget who was the actor ,


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