Question:
Why do Christians say that they don't have to follow the law of the Old Testamant, when Jesus specifically says they do?
Fizzy Bubbler Can't Be Stopped!
2017-03-31 06:24:13 UTC
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
100 answers:
Shaun
2017-04-02 11:03:10 UTC
Balls
Smartassawhip
2017-04-02 08:46:27 UTC
I think that those Christians who believe that we don't have to obey the "First" Testament are engaging in wishful thinking. By my unofficial count at least 1/3 of Jesus teachings come from the "Old Testament." Of course there are groups of Protestants who believe that we don't have to obey the New Testament either. Can you tell I am a Catholic? But I was a Protestant until I was 27 y/o and Jesus talked to me in a Catholic Church.
Suneesh Jacob
2017-04-01 22:45:06 UTC
"until everything is accomplished" makes the difference. Jesus accomplished the law and then abolished it. He did not come to abolish the law before its accomplishment.



i guess
Forrest Toney
2017-04-01 20:58:30 UTC
YES . You have to unless you are willing to go to the Cross too .
?
2017-04-01 13:48:42 UTC
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2017-04-01 10:55:43 UTC
You miss the whole point of why Jesus made a new covenant ...

------> because you are speculating from outside Christian faith.



NOBODY was ever able to keep all the law - not then and not now.



That's why Jesus became the final blood sacrifice for our sin at the

END of the first covenant (Old Testament) to ATONE for the sins of

every one who understands we are not holy and perfect - as God is.



Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament law for us, who were not able to ...

and you don't seem aware that Jesus TAUGHT the Apostles what

they were to teach the world. Scripture said He was the Mediator

of a "better covenant". (see Hebrews 8:6)
?
2017-03-31 14:26:25 UTC
The laws of the Old Testament were only given to the Nation Of Israel, therefore not all worldwide Christians had to follow them! The Bible even says that Christ is the end of the law.
DSM
2017-03-31 13:59:33 UTC
Jesus did not say everything don't have to follow The Old Testament, only some part of the Old Testament should be abolosh after the coming of Christ ,that is why there is New testament
Annsan_In_Him
2017-03-31 07:05:50 UTC
Jesus said ‘Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." - Mat 5:17, as you point out.



That Mosaic Law was given to the Israelites at the foot of Mount Sinai, thousands of years ago. Every Jewish person, and every circumcised proselyte comes under that Law. But if you are not a Jew by birth or a circumcised proselyte to Judaism, you are not under that Law. Just as American citizens are not obliged to follow the English Law, so non-Jews are not obliged to follow the Mosaic Hebrew Law.



As Psalm 53:2-3 points out, nobody is righteous; corruption afflicts us all - and that was said to those under that Law covenant, to those striving to keep it! God's covenant people were warned, "All our righteous acts are as filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away" (Isaiah 64:4). So the OT is clear that the Law exposes our sinfulness - our inability to keep God's perfect Law - that righteousness cannot be obtained by keeping that Law, for we simply cannot keep it! That applies to all Christians and all Gentiles.



Christ reinforced that fact. Jesus took the Mosaic Law and raised the bar; "Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down" He said to Jewish legalists (Mark 7:13) He exposed the corruption in our hearts that makes all our efforts to keep God's Law nothing but an expose of our sinfulness. He showed that if we lust after a woman in our heart, we have already broken God's Law. He stated that if we hated our brother, we have effectively murdered him, from God's legal point of view. As Tim Kellar put it, "The Law is not a check-list that we keep; it's a bench mark that we fail."



Once we see the Mosaic Law as Jesus explained it, we are silenced and we stop trying to justify ourselves by law-keeping. We admit that the perfect Law of God condemns us as law-breakers, and we flee to Christ for pardon. We start to follow Christ. He fulfilled that Law, which was pointing to Him. Jesus did not destroy the perfect Law of God – He perfectly kept it and thus fulfilled it. Do both those things and you are keeping the OT law without falling into the trap of trying to justify yourself as a law-keeping person who deserves or merits God's approval.



All the Law can be summed up in the two foundational commands Jesus stated; "You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your strength" - Deut. 6:5; Mat 22:37; Mark 12:31; Luke 10:27. And, "Love your neighbour as yourself." The Ten Commandments boil it all down to the morality of God as our sovereign, and respect for our neighbour. But the moral law is clearly distinct from the ceremonial law (to do with priests serving in the temple, sacrifices, ritual impurity etc) and the judicial law requirements for the nation of Israel (stoning to death people who disobeyed particular laws of God etc.) Dietary laws are not moral laws. They served a needed purpose back in the day (to keep God's people ritually pure compared with the impure pagans) but Jesus Himself declared all foods clean in Mark 7:1-23. This was confirmed after His resurrection when Peter had a vision from God about eating shellfish and other 'unclean' foods, prior to preaching the gospel to a Gentile family and eating food with them.



God's moral laws are perfect for every time and every generation and every society. But the ritualistic laws could never apply once the Temple was destroyed, and the dietary laws were never meant to apply to non-Jews; even so, once Jesus came and fulfilled the Law, their purpose had been served. Everything was accomplished!
Matthew T
2017-03-31 06:49:24 UTC
Jesus said He came to fulfill the law. And He did. Fulfill: "bring to completion or reality"



Young children have to given rules which they are expected to obey but cannot fully understand. When they are older, love replaces the rules. "No, the Lord has told us what is good. What he requires of us is this: to do what is just, to show constant love, and to live in humble fellowship with our God." Micah 6:8



And of course, your summary of Matthew 15 is so slanted that I'm amazed you believe it. If the scribes and elders had inserted more mercy into that commandment, I don't think Jesus would have objected. He objected because they changed the law to suit their OWN UNJUST purposes. And He wasn't talking about kids, He was talking about grown sons who refused to help their elderly parents.
אברהם
2017-04-02 22:49:57 UTC
The bible must always interpret itself. So then you must read the book of Galatians- Paul writes this book to deal with the problem of circumcision and Jewish legalism toward Gentile believers.



• In chapters 1-2, Paul’s gives his testimony about how he had received the authentic Gospel message. He warns that if anyone presents another Gospel message other than the one he was preaching, that person is “As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!” (1:9). Paul was speaking of the one true Gospel that he had received; Please read 1st Corinthians 15:1-4.



Paul then declares that Christ now lives within him, and directs, and empowers him to live as Christ’s ambassador and instrument.



Chapters 3-5:12, Paul begins by declaring that salvation is through faith and trust in Jesus Christ “Alone”, and cannot be obtained through the keeping of the Law
mia
2017-04-02 17:17:19 UTC
I'm Christian and I read both. It's important to know both the teachings of Jesus as well as the people before him.
Flavio
2017-04-02 15:11:40 UTC
kosovo
?
2017-04-02 10:02:39 UTC
1) "By the Law was no man justified. This was the basis of the entire sacrificial system of the Old Testament, because WHEN they broke the law, that act rolled their sin onto Messiah Jesus who had not yet come.

2) As you pointed out, Jesus came to fulfill the law (for us because we could not).

3) The law remains for those who; a) have never accepted Jesus, and b) those who once being justified by faith intentionally return to a godless life. We do have the option to confess our sins to the Father who is faithful to forgive us. But there is a line where if we go too far we no longer wish to repent of our sins.

4) Jesus simplified the law for us; "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul, and Love your neighbor as yourself." Do this and you will keep the Law. The Law was much more complex than just the 10 Commandments. (Read Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers).

5) Jesus was our example, and he did not always keep the letter of the Law. He did not always keep the Sabbath and sat/ate with sinners, both points of the Law. BUT, the Law was made for sinners; those who were of the male seed descending from Adam, which Jesus was not (immaculate conception fathered by the Holy Spirit). This is we Christians are exempt from the letter of the Law as long as we are in Jesus.

6) "The letter of the law kills, but the spirit of the Law gives life."
Carolyn
2017-04-02 02:24:02 UTC
Because Constantine declared Rome to be Christian and you know what happens when government takes over control of your religion...
2017-04-02 00:20:21 UTC
But Jesus said we Must love each other Making 50 % of the old testament Obsolete



Me Anglican Catholic follow the 10 Commandments and Love nearly everyone except members of the Muslim cult
Godsproblemchild
2017-04-01 19:41:50 UTC
Jesus did in fact fulfill the law and its purpose. He lived it perfectly. The law proved once and for all that no one else could please God by obedience to the law. That was the purpose of the sermon on the mount and the entire old testament law was to show all men guilty before God. When Jesus came, there were still some people (the religious leaders) who thought they were righteous by obedience to the law. Jesus talked about hate, lust, greed, worry judgment etc... to show them that they still did not measure up.



Then he died in our place paid for our sins and credited his perfect life to our accounts by faith and declared us holy, blameless and righteous in the sight of almighty God. So now because of Jesus we can call God daddy and freely come into his presence without guilt or fear of judgment. Just walk right in and give him a hug, say thanks and worship him, he deserves it.
2017-04-01 03:26:24 UTC
Cause Christians are hypocrites.
John
2017-03-31 20:37:28 UTC
Did you really read that scripture properly? Compare is, please, to Daniel 9: . Jesus fulfilled the law. That covenant ended with him. If you truly want the truth, listen to what the Bible has to say.
2017-03-31 20:30:19 UTC
You fail .. As Christians we follow the New Testament law.
Texas Czech Chick
2017-03-31 20:19:11 UTC
Jesus Christ EARTHLY ministry was only to the Jews. Paul is the disciple of the gentiles.

Christians are NOT under the Torah, or any other law in the old testament. Shalom.
2017-03-31 19:14:40 UTC
i don't know why
?
2017-03-31 18:57:20 UTC
Because Christians know what the Bible teaches.

Christians are no more under the Mosaic law. -Romans 6:15-17.
2017-03-31 18:50:30 UTC
True, Jesus did say: “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Matthew 5:17)

Since Christ fulfilled the Law, are Christians obligated to keep the weekly Sabbath?

Christians are under a new law, “the law of the Christ.” (Galatians 6:2) The former Law covenant given through Moses to Israel came to an end when Jesus’ death fulfilled it. (Romans 10:4; Ephesians 2:15) Did the commandment about keeping the Sabbath also come to an end? Yes. After saying that “we have been discharged from the Law,” Paul went on to refer to one of the Ten Commandments. (Romans 7:6, 7) So the Ten Commandments—including the Sabbath law—are part of the Law that came to an end. God’s worshippers, therefore, are no longer required to observe a weekly Sabbath
Khakidoodle
2017-03-31 18:38:08 UTC
Many of the OT laws we're rendered onsolete by the crucifixoin of Jesus Christ.
Ricardo
2017-03-31 18:29:26 UTC
Fundies make up whatever is convenient.
Hannah J Paul
2017-03-31 18:24:43 UTC
Thank you, Fizzy, for the opportunity to consider this question. The subject matter comes up from time to time.



The Mosaic law, all 613 statutes and regulations was, first of all, given only to the nation of Israel. Thus, we read at Psalm 147:19-20:



"He is telling his word to Jacob, his regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. He has not done that way to any other nation; and as for [his] judicial decisions, they have not known them." Were you to read the Hebrew Scriptures from Exodus to Malachi, you will find absolutely nowhere God commanding Assyrians, Egyptians, Persians, Medes, Greeks Canaanites, Idumeans, or any other folks to obey this law. The only persons ever obligated to obey it were natural Jews and Jewish proselytes.



Moreover, this law, together with the ten commandments, was nailed to the instrument of death along with Jesus. See Galatians 3:10-13 and Colossians 2:14-15. Christians have never been under this law and Jews are no longer under it. Thus, verse 16 says to let no man judge you as respects eating - which is exactly what some of the Judaizers were trying to do.



Is there some separation of the Ten Commandments and the remainder of the law covenant? Some seem to think so. What is the Bible’s viewpoint? In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus referred to the law. At Matthew 5:21, he referred to the commandment forbidding murder. Then in verse 23, he refers to the laws of sacrifice. At verse 27, he refers to the commandment against adultery. Then in verse 31, he references the law on divorce. Did you notice that Fizzy? He is making no distinction whatsoever between the Ten Commandments and the remainder of the law.



The apostle Paul follows the same example. To wit: at Romans 7:7, Paul asks if the Law is sin. By way of example, what does he use? The commandment against covetousness. So Paul does not make any distinction between the Ten Commandments and the law either. Since neither Jesus nor Paul divided the law into sections that ought to be obeyed and ought not, upon what authority do we?



Thank you for the Bible reference you provided at Matthew. It is always good to consider God's word the Bible when discussing such matters. I feel compelled to point out a few things: (1) There is no way to infer anger from Jesus' words. He asks them a question concerning the ease with which they overstep God's law for their traditions. He is referring to corban which many Jews defaulted to when it came time to provide economic care for parents. They simply said it was corban - dedicated to God and hence could not be used for their parents. They, however, continued to benefit from this money. Jesus was pointing out their hypocrisy. (2) Jesus points out the law which commanded that certain children were to be put to death when they were guilty of certain sins that carried the death penalty. I would note that there is no mention of 'kids' in this scripture. You are reading into it what is not there. (3) When Jesus was on earth, the Mosaic Law covenant was still in force. That is why Jesus kept the Sabbath, went to the temple, observed the festivals, and so forth. So long as the Mosaic law was still in force, it was obligatory to keep it - to the letter. See the part in your update that mentions "accomplished”? That is what Jesus did. He kept the Law perfectly – as no other human could do. But that the law covenant would be put out of the way is readily apparent from a consideration of such scriptures as Colossians and Ephesians which I cited above. And a consideration of the scripture at Psalms 147:19, 20 also makes it clear that Gentiles (non-Jewish Christians ) were NEVER under the law covenant. Never.



Thanks, Fizzy, for your question.



Hannah J Paul
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2017-03-31 14:33:19 UTC
Jesus didn't "abolish" the Law he "fulfilled" it AT HIS DEATH. The law was a "teacher leading to Christ". It made the sins of the Israelites "manifest" so they would be in expectation of their Messiah and understand their need for the "forgiveness of sins".



When Jesus gave his life the Law was "fulfilled". Like a contract, when the contract has been completed it is "fulfilled". It isn't destroyed as it served a purpose, but it is FULFILLED.

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Hogie
2017-03-31 13:06:32 UTC
So sorry to see you have such a severe reading comprehension disorder.



Did Jesus do what He said He was there to do; fulfill the law AND prophets? Are there laws written and codified in the prophets? How do you fulfill something in the prophets that does not exist in the prophets?



And, contextually, what was "everything"? Remember, you are reading a translation from another language, so the definitions are important, not based on English, but in this case Greek.



But allow me to humor you... that law required people to undergo circumcision before they came under that law. Were gentile Christians required to undergo circumcision? No. Therefore, what are you talking about? Christians cannot be required to follow that law unless and until they undergo circumcision.
Tatty Tails
2017-03-31 09:02:41 UTC
True, Jesus did say: “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Matthew 5:17) But what does the expression “to fulfill” mean? To illustrate: A builder fulfills a contract to complete a building, not by ripping up the contract, but by finishing the structure. However, once the work has been completed to the client’s satisfaction, the contract is fulfilled and the builder is no longer under obligation to it. Likewise, Jesus did not break, or rip up, the Law; rather, he fulfilled it by keeping it perfectly. Once fulfilled, that Law “contract” was no longer binding on God’s people.
2017-04-03 18:26:02 UTC
Psalm 147:19-20

Technically they don't, they were never in a covenant with GOD, unless their ancestor came here on slave ships. (Deuteronomy 28:68) GOD's covenant was with Israel. The Tribe of Judah are those black people stolen from West African. When Titus invaded they fled Jerusalem into West Africa to blend in with the Hamites, just like Mary & Jesus did when they fled into Egypt.
😌
2017-04-02 13:30:54 UTC
That law was refering to the laws of the prophets. "Law" was use often to do that. For example. Look at this scripture.



1 Corinthians 14:21 ~ "In the Law it is written: “‘With the tongues of foreigners and with the lips of strangers I will speak to this people, and even then they will refuse to listen to me,’ says Jehovah.”



What law?



Isaiah 28:11, 12 ~ "So by means of those with stammering speech and a foreign language, he will speak to this people. 12 He once told them: “This is the resting-place. Let the weary one rest; this is the place of refreshment,” but they refused to listen."



See? It isn't used for the mosaic law.



Colossians 2:13, 14 ~ "Furthermore, though you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcised state of your flesh, God made you alive together with him. He kindly forgave us all our trespasses and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake."
2017-04-02 07:24:27 UTC
idk
?
2017-04-02 04:03:14 UTC
exactly. Without the old testament the whole concept of new testament is debunked. The concept of orginal sin, the ten commandments. Christians love cherry picking.
תפילת תשובה צדקה גאולה
2017-04-02 01:58:07 UTC
Christ fulfilled The Law of The Prophets, as you stated. He didn't destory it. There were some changes, but he made the law fulfilled. Read Hebrews. There were flaws in the law and Christ fulfilled these flaws. For instance, priests at the temple, with sinful hands, sacrificed animal blood. Christ sacrifices His blood for the redemption of the sins of mankind. For in the beginning, "The Word was God, and The Word was With God." God's redemption by the power of the resurrection of Christ was The Word and The Ultimate Sacrifice, and the life and light of this world from the beginning of time.



Best regards.
Ralph
2017-04-01 21:01:56 UTC
The fact of the matter, Yes, we still follow the moral laws of God word, but we do not follow the ceremonial laws of God word because they have been fulfilled by the Lord Jesus Christ as the Messiah, that is why we do not do burnt offerings and blood sacrifices anymore because if you are a true believer of God, than the Lord Jesus Christ is your burnt offering and blood sacrifice, if not then when the Lord comes back you will be the burnt offering and the blood sacrifice, because you did not believe in God word the Bible only. Only if God, The Lord Jesus Christ has mercy on you and saves you before you die, then you will not stand in judgment, in the end.
2017-04-01 17:09:17 UTC
Ahhh....You've hit the nail on the head. Christians don't really care what Jesus said. They only care what their handlers tell them Jesus actually meant to say when he said what he never said. Rolls eyes
Shirley
2017-04-01 17:01:16 UTC
There is no valid basis for the Hebrew and Aramaic Scriptures to be called “The Old Testament” and for the Christian Greek Scriptures to be called “The New Testament.” Jesus Christ himself referred to the collection of sacred writings as “the Scriptures.”, read Matthew 21:42; Mark 14:49; John 5:39. The apostle Paul referred to them as “the holy Scriptures,” “the Scriptures” and “the holy writings.”, read Romans 1:2; 15:4; 2Timothy 3:15.

In harmony with the inspired utterance in Romans 1:2, the New World Translation contains in its title the expression “the Holy Scriptures.”
2017-04-01 12:20:00 UTC
You, of course. are absolutely right. After Jesus healed, He said "Go and sin no more." He also healed by saying "Your sins are forgiven." The only Command that people are against is the Fourth. They conveniently plit the first to make two & leave out the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the only sign between God & man that shows His people. If you look up SIN, The Ten Commandments in the Catholic Encyclopedia, you'll find that they admit the church has no authority to make changes.
Naguru
2017-04-01 10:34:13 UTC
Most of them only follow the family tradition and they learn it from their parents.
Graham S
2017-04-01 09:33:12 UTC
The rules are bent like many of the preachers......according to what we read in the media .....
2017-04-01 00:20:54 UTC
WHATS YOUR POINT? The Jews still told the Romans to kill him, and everything he said to the Jews was



unrecognizable to their law, irrelevant and against their own doctrines. Why do you think he told them that



he didn't come to change it, it's because they knew he was changing it by doing things totally out of bounds



to the Jewish law. Jesus didn't even get to establish his own rules or words, the Romans and their numerous councils did that work.
Periferalist
2017-03-31 17:14:25 UTC
Like most people, they pick and chose among the things they want to believe or not.
Will Metz
2017-03-31 14:58:54 UTC
That's a novel interpretation of a few verses you yanked from context (Matthew 15:1-4). The complete passage is 15:1-9. He is not criticizing people for not putting unruly children to death. He is criticizing the Pharisees custom of Corban, in which people avoided taking care of their parents by claiming that the money they would have otherwise used for that purpose was "given to God."



Here is an explanation of verse 5-6 from the Lutheran Study Bible:



Jesus faulted the Pharisees and scribes for teaching that one could avoid financial support of parents by vowing this money to God as a gift. Such a vow might not be fulfilled until much later, if at all, allowing continued use of the money.
Keith
2017-03-31 14:19:11 UTC
Jesus is the fulfillment of the law of the prophets, and cancels out this, by a new and living commandment.



Christians will be judged based on the two new commands of Jesus, which hangs all of that of the laws and the prophets.



Jesus Christ is the Ultimate Law Giver and Adjuster, Him being the Fulfillment of all in all.



Jews will be judged also.
?
2017-03-31 14:17:24 UTC
We do in principle. Mattthew 22:37-40
2017-03-31 13:40:08 UTC
Sweetie, you need a time line badly. Jesus was Jewish. He came as the messiah to the Jewish people. He reminded Gentiles that He did not come for them. He chose no Gentiles to be His apostles. He never preached to the Gentiles and performed miracles only for Gentiles of great faith like the Roman officer.

Jesus is crucified, buried and rises. He ascends to the Father. His followers are Jews and they preach Jesus as Messiah in the Temple. They get tossed out on their ears and are not allowed in the Temple. Pharisees like Saul persecute them and Stephen is stoned to death. Now what?

If you ever read Acts, you'll see what. Turn to chapter 10. Things take a 180 degree turn. Gentiles receive the gospel. Peter has the vision which ends kosher forever. Acts 11:26, they stop being Jews and are called Christians. By AD 104 they are no longer keeping the Sabbath and have the Lord's Day as their day of rest.

You have to read the whole story; and it does not end with the Bible. The Church went marching on. It's still here today. Same Church, but not the Judaism of Christ.

By the way, you are also a liar. Jesus never advocated the killing of children. Better learn to read.
Tracy
2017-03-31 11:53:29 UTC
The law was abolished on the basis of Christ's sacrifice.... Even though we as Christians no longer follow the "Law" we still live by it's principles.... Some of God's laws may change but his principles never do.



Those laws we're designed to safeguard the Israelites until the arrival of Christ.
Brianna
2017-03-31 11:50:55 UTC
Vs. 17 States that he came to fulfill the Law. Upon his death the Mosaic Law was fulfilled. It was no longer leagally binding, as a new covenant was put in place.



Yes, Jesus did observe the Sabbath. Concerning him, we are told: “When the full limit of the time arrived, God sent forth his Son, who came to be out of a woman and who came to be under law.” (Galatians 4:4) Jesus was born an Israelite and as such was under Law, and that included the Sabbath law. It was not until after Jesus’ death that the Law covenant was taken away. (Colossians 2:13, 14) Knowing when these events took place in the stream of time helps us to understand God’s view on the matter.



True, Jesus did say: “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Matthew 5:17) But what does the expression “to fulfill” mean? To illustrate: A builder fulfills a contract to complete a building, not by ripping up the contract, but by finishing the structure. However, once the work has been completed to the client’s satisfaction, the contract is fulfilled and the builder is no longer under obligation to it. Likewise, Jesus did not break, or rip up, the Law; rather, he fulfilled it by keeping it perfectly. Once fulfilled, that Law “contract” was no longer binding on God’s people.



The change from the Israelite to the Christian system of worship could be illustrated this way: A nation may change its constitution. Once the new constitution is legally in place, people are no longer required to obey the former one. Even though some of the laws in the new constitution may be the same as those in the former constitution, others may be different. So a person would need to study the new constitution carefully to see what laws now apply. Additionally, a loyal citizen would want to know when the new constitution went into effect.





Hope this helps.
David at Your Service
2017-03-31 07:22:32 UTC
Jesus' audience was Jews. In fact, he went out of his way at times to avoid contact with Gentiles (Mt 10:5; Mk 7:24-27). The covenant you refer to was made only with the ancient Israelites, never any Gentiles (Ex 19:3-8).



Also, "Christians" didn't exist until after Jesus' death. It wasn't until about ten years after his death we read about the first Gentile Christian, Cornelius (Ac 10:2).



My guess is that you don't follow the OT either. I'm sure you are surrounded by people who routinely break the Sabbath all the time. When was the last time you killed any of them (Ex 31:14)?
2017-04-02 06:02:31 UTC
Fear
2017-04-01 22:18:32 UTC
he never said we have to follow them.
Wellll... hello then!
2017-04-01 20:21:43 UTC
Christians in the light don`t say THAT!

Religious Christians most likely do!

Only 1 of the 2 groups KNOWS God personally, that`s the fellowship group Jesus Christ is coming back for in the soon coming rapture|!
Annonymous
2017-04-01 12:45:27 UTC
Because over the years the essence of the law was used for man's personal use and was many times abused for selfish reasons, and Jesus pointed it out on several occasions, AND you misinterpreted Matt. vs 4. Not sure by your question you understand vs 4. But verse 4 is a good example. he's referring to the leaders of the law, instead of taking care of their parents(financially), they would tell mom and dad or one of them, I can't really tend to you guys because "my resources go to God , sorry mom and dad. Jesus went after them for using God as an excuse for not tending to their needs, the "more" important matters in life.



He used in Matthew 5 when talking about giving to God and reconciling with someone your at odds with. Jesus said, if you have something against your brother and you haven't forgiven or reconciled what your at odds over, don't go giving money to me, I don't want your filthy money, until you get your heart right between yourself and another human keep your money, once you reconcile, then you can give.
Jan C
2017-04-01 03:04:09 UTC
The scribes and Pharisees (They were not Christians) came to Jesus. They ask Him why the disciples transgress the the traditions of the elders? (For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.)

Jesus answered "Why do your traditions violate the direct commandment of God?

Obviously Jesus didn't find the scribes and pharisees subject worthy of a conversation. He did go on to the commandment pertaining to the Commandment which is :Honor your Father and Mother.

I am not sure I got your question but I hope We always pay attention who is speaking and to whom the person is talking to. I don't notice anything regarding Christians not keeping the Commandment. The fact of washing your hands before eating is not and was never a commandment. It was one of several hundreds of rules the leaders of that time brought. They were the Jews. Jewish laws were for the Jewish people, although only Jews were the leaders of everything during that time. You may want to do some more searching about that time period.
?
2017-03-31 21:58:06 UTC
The LAW to which Jesus refers is the 10 commandments.

The laws which Christians reject are found in Leviticus.

These are about kosher foods & sacrifices etc.

Jesus referred to these as the man-made laws.

Paul discussed this issue with Peter the first Pope.
magix151
2017-03-31 21:33:52 UTC
Christians today will say that we are not bound by the OT anymore. We are bound by the New Testament. But, we still abide by the 10 commandments. And they still bring up old testament laws when they want to discriminate against certain groups of people.
catholic199_returns
2017-03-31 19:32:27 UTC
For your interest...









15:5 But certain members of the Pharisees' party who had become believers objected, insisting that the pagans should be circumcised and instructed to keep the Law of Moses.

15:6 The apostles and elders met to look into the matter,

... ...



 



15:10 It would only provoke God's anger now, surely, if you imposed on the disciples the very burden that neither we nor our ancestors were strong enough to support?











http://www.seraphim.my/bible/jb/JB-NT05%20ACTS.htm





5:1 When Christ freed us, he meant us to remain free. Stand firm, therefore, and do not submit again to the yoke of slavery.

5:2 It is I, Paul, who tell you this: if you allow yourselves to be circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you at all.

5:3 With all solemnity I repeat my warning: Everyone who accepts circumcision is obliged to keep the whole Law.

5:4 But if you do look to the Law to make you justified, then you have separated yourselves from Christ, and have fallen from grace.
princess
2017-03-31 19:05:09 UTC
Christ fulfilled the law. So in putting our saving faith in him he does what the law was not able to do by the power of the Holy Spirit. Read Romans 8- that should clear it up for you
?
2017-03-31 16:09:31 UTC
I know of no Christians who dismiss the 10 Commandment as irrelevant. On the contrary. They are the foundation, the essential instructions for a healthy relationship with God and each other.
Christian Sinner
2017-03-31 14:58:13 UTC
You misinterpret what Jesus was saying. He didn't abolish the law, it is still in effect. But those in Christ are not under it.



This is really simple stuff.
ron
2017-03-31 14:06:35 UTC
Read the book of Galatians and you will see that you are misinterpreting the meaning of this passage. Nobody is justified by keeping the OT law.
User
2017-03-31 13:11:11 UTC
It seems to me that you do not understand the meaning of the phrase

- Jesus specifically says they do



But to see if I am right or wrong:

Where in the Bible does Jesus teach *specifically* that Christians have to follow the law of the Old Testament?
2017-03-31 12:31:33 UTC
Because



1) they ignore the 'For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.' bit.



2) They pretend this only applies to the Jews.



3) They pretend Paul's contradiction is really an explanation.



Paul mentioned Judaizing Christians, so there was already sectarian differences at that time. The unknown author of Matthew didn't like the Pauline version of Christianity in Mark, so he rewrote it (with added material invented from the Greek version of the Old Testament).
Fuzzy
2017-03-31 08:52:52 UTC
I don't know what you are! If you are an atheist, why you don't mind your own business, I don't get.



I also do not understand why you guys do not study common simple English! Do you really not understand conditional phrases??????



E.g. If I told you, I will help you translate this page into French if you pay me $80, will I translate the page if you do not pay me?!!!



What does this phrase mean. ". . .until everything is accomplished . . ."



The question you need to research which we already know is - what all needed to be accomplished?



Study things before making grandiose claims, please.
Gregory
2017-03-31 06:58:49 UTC
your a liar. jesus told israel who are not christians. the old testament law only covered israel not gentiles.



Romans 2:14

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:





your a idiot. god does not command us to kill our children
2017-03-31 06:57:34 UTC
The bible is a wet dream for semanticists. You can (and christards do) twist its words into absolutely unrecognizable shapes in order to make it say what they want,



The bible could say that pi is 3, not 3.14 (etc) and they would find a way to rationalize that...oh, wait...it does say that!
A Second Witness
2017-03-31 06:43:00 UTC
Jesus completely and permanently fulfilled the Law and the Prophets, just as he said in Matthew 5:17,18; once he did, his prophecy, which you quote there was fulfilled: "until everything is accomplished". Until then, it remained true that, "not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law".



That Law was part of the covenant that God had specifically with Israel, so it was binding upon Jews until Jesus fulfilled the Law and the Prophets:



'After supper he took another cup of wine and said, "This cup is the new covenant between God and his people--an agreement confirmed with my blood, which is poured out as a sacrifice for you."' - Luke 22:20 (NLT)



People of other nations were never included in God's covenant with Israel unless they became proselytes. The overwhelming majority of modern Christians are from other nations and were never Jewish proselytes, so they were never parties to that covenant, only to the new covenant through Jesus.
2017-03-31 06:28:46 UTC
Eh. Fvck it. I wanna fvck! FuckY**, that's why!
?
2017-03-31 06:26:59 UTC
All who rely on works of the Law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” And it is clear that no one is justified before God by the Law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.” The Law, however, is not based on faith; on the contrary, “The one who does these things will live by them.”



Galatians 3:10-12



For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds[b] I will remember no more.”



13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.



Hebrews 8:7-13
2017-04-14 08:04:31 UTC
"until everything is accomplished" makes the difference... jesus accomplished the law and then abolished it... he did not come to abolish the law before its accomplishment...



i guess
2017-04-04 20:17:01 UTC
yeah ... you have to unless you are shalling to go to the cross too ...
darkcloud
2017-04-02 22:01:49 UTC
No Jesus didn't say any such thing . he said only how can you preach what you don't practice .
2017-04-02 17:51:20 UTC
Many people today use something called common sense. You should try it sometime. SMH.
Tribute
2017-04-02 12:20:49 UTC
Yes. He came to fulfil the law, meaning it was INCOMPLETE before. If you recall, he also did not follow all of the rules the pharisees expected him to, for example he performed miracles on the Sabbath. The Old Testament was for an audience that did not know Jesus yet. The New Testament is about a NEW covenant. When you look at the Old Testament, learn from it in context and keep in mind the New Testament and the new commandment John 13:34. Both are important.
James
2017-04-02 08:40:00 UTC
THE LAW AND THE NEW TESTAMENT



Mal. 3:6 tells us that God does not change. Heb. 13:8 tells us the same thing about Jesus.



Isa. 8:20 tells us that if people do not speak in accordance with the law and the testimony then there is no light in them. See John 7:16.

Hosea 4:6 tells us that if you reject His knowledge God will reject you. And if you forget His laws, He will forget your children.

Prov. 28:9 tells us that he who refuses to listen to God’s laws, even his prayers are an abomination.

Ps. 119:118 tells us that those who stray from God’s statutes, God rejects.



Deut. 18:18,19 is a prophecy about the coming of Jesus, a Prophet like unto Moses, and that God shall cause Him to speak His words –His laws and His testimony (Isa. 8:20). See also John 7:16 – 19; and Isa. 48:16 – 19; Matt 7:21; Luke 22:42; John 6:38; Rom 12:2; Heb. 13:20, 21. What was Jesus’ love, but doing the will of His Father? See also Ex. 25:16, 21; 31:18; II Chron. 23:11; John 3:32 – 34; John 14:12, 20, 21, 23, 24, 26, 31.



Acts 13:42,43 shows us that Gentiles also kept the seventh-day Sabbath, even though they were “under grace.” And take note that no one “corrected them” on this for it was in keeping with all the testimonies of Jesus and the Apostles.



Luke 16:17 tells us it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to pass, or fail, or for that matter to be annulled or rescinded.



Matt. 5:17-19 and Rom. 13:8-10 tell us that God’s laws and commandments are the same thing.



I John 3:4 tells us that sin and lawlessness (iniquity) are the same thing.



Rom.6:23 tells us that the wages of sin is death.



James 2:10, 11 tell us that if you transgress in just one point of the law then you are guilty of breaking the whole law. This is Satan’s greatest trick – to get us to believe that if we break just a minor one we will be o.k. This also is the deception of replacing God’s chosen day of worship, and the malignancy behind it.



I John 5:2,3 tells us that this is how we know we love God – that we keep His commandments.



I Peter 2:21 tells us that Christ is our example, and we should follow Him. See John 14:12; 15:10.



Matt.5:17-20 tells us that Jesus did not come to end, destroy or abolish the law, but rather to fulfill it.

Rom. 8:1-4 tells us that if you are in Christ, then you, also, will fulfill the righteous requirements of the law. Verses 5-9 tell us that the carnally minded cannot keep the laws of God. See also John 14:12.

Now, while Rom. 8:3 (and 3:20) tells us that we are not saved by the works of the law, Rom. 4:1-4 tell us, particularly in verse 4, that we do not do such works to be saved, but rather out of debt, because we have been saved.



Matt. 7: 21-23 tells us that Jesus will reject those who practice lawlessness, on judgment day.



Matt. 24:20 tells us that Christ still expected people to be keeping the seventh-day Sabbath even in the future, for this passage speaks about the destruction of Jerusalem, which didn’t happen until 70 A.D.



Rom. 3:31 tells us that the law is not made void by faith (or grace). Faith does not make void the law.

Rom. 3:19-22 tells us that we are saved by faith, not by the works of the law, but this does not make void the law, or in other words, it does not mean that the law does not apply – vs. 31.



Rev. 12:17; 14:12; and 22:14 tell us that those who overcome the Devil will be those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony or faith of Jesus.



Luke 18:18-23 tells us that Jesus did teach the law and indeed that it was the way to eternal life, when coupled with love.

I hope you can see that the doctrine which teaches that grace makes void the law is a false one. Ezek.13:9 tells us that prophets or teachers who envision futile ways and speak lies shall not be in God’s everlasting assembly. See Isa.1:19 – 20; 5:20; and Jerem. 5:20 – 25, 30, 31.



Ex. 31:13-18 tells us that God made the Sabbath to serve as a sign for us that we may know that it is God who sanctifies us, as opposed to the other heathen peoples, and also that it is a perpetual covenant in itself. See also Ezek. 20:20.

To those who say that it applies only to Israel, Gal. 3:29 tells us that if we are Christ’s, then we are Abraham’s seed. So that one may know that it is the children of faith, not the children of blood, who are spiritual Israel, or the spiritual inheritors of the Abrahamic blessings.



Isa. 24:4-6 tells us that it is the changing of God’s statutes, or the transgression of them that destroys the earth, and causes it to languish. That to transgress His laws is to defile the earth. Rev. 11:18 tells us that God will destroy those who do this.



Dan. 7:25 tells us that one would come who would seek to, or actually the key word here is “think to”, “change times and laws”—well the only law that is also a time is the Sabbath commandment. The Emperor Constantine of Rome, who also established the Catholic Church, in the fourth century, is the one who changed the Sabbath to Sunday. This Catholic institution also speaks other blasphemies and pompous words against the Most High.

There is a very important reason why the Sabbath commandment is the only commandment that begins with, “Remember” (Ex 20:8). This God said because He knew that men would forget. The Sabbath commandment is the only one of the Ten that makes no worldly sense. He knew it would be the easiest one for Satan to deceive people over, for that very reason. By the wisdom and reasoning of the world, what matters it what day we worship on? Well, it matters to God. I John 3:4; James 2:10, 11.



The New Covenant was actually foretold in the Old. And you might be surprised by what it says. See Isa. 54:10; Jerem. 31:33; Ezek. 36:26,27; Mark 14:24.



If all Scripture is given by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit (2 Tim. 3:16), then the Holy Spirit is the actual author of all Scripture. Now if God and Christ never change (Mal. 3:6; Heb. 13:8) then the testimony of the Holy Spirit must remain consistent throughout the Scriptures, both Old and New Covenants, which is, indeed, what I am presenting to you in this paper. Indeed, this is also what Jesus tells us in Matt. 5:17-20. This also should tell you that those who teach that grace makes void the law are not in keeping with what the Scriptures themselves testify to, and instead are teaching license for iniquity (which is another word for lawlessness, I John 3:4). Just as Jesus did not come to save us in our sins, but to save us from our sins, He also did not come to set us free from His laws, but rather to expound upon them and to write them upon the tables of our hearts, that we might not transgress against Him (Ps. 119:11,33-40,97-120, 137-144, 169-176). So those who teach that the law no longer applies because of grace, are in fact teaching you to sin (Matt. 5:19; 7:21-23; I John 3:4 tells us that sin is the transgression of the law).

II Thess. 2:3-12 tells us about the coming of the mystery of iniquity (or lawlessness). The mystery is, how do you get to heaven without keeping God’s laws?



There are those who would state that Jesus’ only laws are to love God before all, and to love thy neighbor as thyself (Matt. 22:35 – 40). But then I ask you, can you love God in disobedience? Can you love your neighbor if you kill him, or steal from him, or sleep with his wife? I John 5:2, 3. In John 14: 15, 23, 24 Christ tells us that if we love Him we will keep His commandments, and that His word is the word of the Father as well (in other words He speaks His Father’s words), and that those who do not keep His commandments do not love Him. Indeed we are told that His commandments are love in Matt.22:35 – 40. So you cannot love if you are breaking the commandments.



John 1:1-14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:13-16; and Hebrews 1:2; as well as I Corinthians 10:4 all teach us that Jesus Christ was and is our Creator. Thus it was He who gave us the Ten Commandments in the first place. Those who do not understand this about Him, do not know who they worship. Plain and simple.



All that stated there is a difference between the Ritual and Ceremonial and Civil Laws and the Ten Commandment Moral Law of God --- The Moral Law is called the royal law of liberty (James 1:25; 2:8-12); was spoken by God Himself (Ex. 20:1, 22; Deut. 4:12); was written by God's own finger in stone (Ex. 24:12; 31:18); was placed inside the Ark of the Covenant (Deut. 10:5; Ex. 40:20; Heb. 9:4); is to stand forever (Ps. 111:7,8; 89:34; Rom. 3:31); gives us the knowledge of what sin is (Rom. 3:20; and 7:7); is not grievous for us to keep (1 John 5:3); judges all men (James 2:10-12); is Spiritual (Rom. 7:14)..........



By way of contrast, the Ritual/Ceremonial/Civil Laws of ancient Israel were called the Law contained in ordinances (Eph. 2:15) and is called the law of bondage (Gal. 5:1-3); were spoken not by God, but by Moses (Ex. 24:3; Lev. 1:1-3); was written not by God, but by Moses in a book and is temporary (Ex. 24:4-7; 2 Chron. 35:12); was placed in the side of the Ark, not inside it (Deut. 31:24-26); ended at the cross (Eph. 2:15; Coloss. 2:14-17); was given because of sin (to straighten us out -- Gal. 3:19); is contrary to us (Coloss. 2:14-17); judges no man (Coloss. 2:14-17); is not spiritual but carnal (Heb. 9:10).
PRASAD
2017-04-02 05:34:56 UTC
Because the weight of bible is depended upon OT which have more pages than NT and Lord God is father of Son God and father is always better than son and do not forget, OT is part and parcel of Bible
Spike
2017-04-01 12:56:47 UTC
"Do unto others, before the b*stards get the chance to do unto you!" - "Book of Normality, - Chapter 1, - Rule 1!"
2017-04-01 06:17:25 UTC
Oh Christians know what JESUS specifies........reading the WORD wrong is why so many others problems.

Scripture isn't a pick and chose thing........it has to be read as a whole on each subject or topic.
samantha
2017-04-01 04:44:34 UTC
The law is fulfilled in the New Testament. God never changes and what

He has to say about the Ten Commandments we still believe today. He

gave the Law to show everyone they are impossible to keep...everyone

breaks them...and Jesus came to die for us and in our place because we

all sin . His blood covered our sin. It was all part of God's plan to save us. Read John 3:16 & 17 and John 14:6.
grnlow
2017-04-01 04:05:13 UTC
Did you not read Matt. 15 instead of just quote it? He said he came "to FULFILL the (Mosaic) Law.". Since all of it pointed to the need for the Messiah to sacrifice his perfect human life to forgive Adam's sin for all mankind. He was a PROPITIATORY sacrifice as 1 John 2:2 and Hebrews 2:17 brings out.



Without bringing an end by fulfilling that Law, he could not have made a new covenant that took effect with his sacrifice seen at Luke 22:28-30. The date REPLACED Passover.



He would never return as a human again. His table would then be in heaven. Those he invited would also need to be in heaven too. This is the 1st time any human was invited there. John 3:13 highlight " No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended, the Son of man.". Jesus Christ.
?
2017-04-01 02:58:55 UTC
The moral law (the Ten Commandments) existed before the Jews. It is the law which points out what sin is. The first time sin is mentioned in the Bible is when God said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it” (Genesis 4:6). Joseph knew that it was a sin against God if he were to commit adultery with Potiphar's wife. The law existed before it was given in writing on Mount Sinai. This is evident in the fourth commandment which starts with the word "Remember". Jesus did not do away with the Law, He showed the people that the breaking of the Law began in the mind, the heart, the thoughts. It was not only important not to commit the act of adultery but it was important that you didn't look at a person with the intent of committing adultery with him or her. Thoughts lead to actions. James put it this way: But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death (James 1:14, 15). The law cannot save anyone but it points the sinner to the Savior. The law is there to point out the sin in our lives. Jesus did what the law could not do--save the sinner. Grace did not replace the law. A perfect example of how the two work together is in John's account of the woman accursed of adultery. She was taken to Jesus. The religious leaders did that not because they wanted to do right by the law but they wanted to trap Jesus. Jesus told them that the person who was without sin could throw the first stone at her. No one could do that because no one was sinless. They went away and Jesus and the woman were left. He asked her where her accusers were. There were none. He told her that He didn't condemn her but He told her to go and sin no more. The law said that she was guilty of committing adultery but Jesus showed her grace. In response to His grace, she was to live a new life, turn away from sin. We don't keep the law in order to be saved. We keep it because we are saved. We keep it because we love the Lord. Jesus summed up the ten commandments into two. “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment.  And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets” (Matthew 22:37-40). It's God's law. It was written with His own finger. And it is meant for all of us, not just the Jews. Even after Jesus' death, His followers kept the law. Luke 23:56 says: Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment. The righteous requirement of the law is fulfilled in us, just as it was fulfilled in Christ because we do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit (Romans 8:4). We are not justified by keeping the law but we are justified by faith. However, faith doesn't make the law void. We establish the law (Romans 3:28, 31). We uphold it.



It is time for You to act, O LORD, For they have regarded Your law as void (Psalm 119:126).
the truth be told
2017-04-01 00:53:38 UTC
"Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament law?"



Answer: The key to understanding the relationship between the Christian and the Law is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments, for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23–25; Ephesians 2:15).



In place of the Old Testament law, Christians are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us: “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament law can be a good guidepost for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some of it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.



“This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament law is to convict people of our inability to keep the law and point us to our need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.
Thomas
2017-04-01 00:31:26 UTC
hello this is a test
daylily61
2017-03-31 17:58:24 UTC
Why don't you study what the New Testament says, especially the Gospels, and maybe you'll find the answers to your questions yourself? Of course, I'm assuming you really want answers, instead of debates.



Jesus Himself DID accomplish everything. He fulfilled the Law, and by so doing He was able to usher in the New Covenant Jeremiah had prophesied centuries earlier (Jeremiah 31:31-34). Jesus said "This IS the NEW COVENANT IN MY BLOOD, which is poured out for you" (Luke 22:20).



In this New Covenant, the Lord writes His law in our minds and hearts (Jeremiah 31:33). THROUGH THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, we Christians know Him, and are freed of the burden of trying to obey every jot of the Law, from fear of punishment if we don't (1 John 4:18). Instead, we become His children and learn to love Him and and one another, as Jesus commanded (John 13:34-35). THIS is the Law we are to obey, and in so doing the Lord declares us righteous (Romans 3:21-24).



God bless and keep you ♰
H. Carrielynn
2017-03-31 16:37:09 UTC
Fulfill is not follow. Fulfilled means it is done, completed, finished. To follow means you are still doing it, incomplete, in progress.



Transformation to become Christlike results in the fulfilling of the 10 commandments, because Jesus was the only one who carried out the law perfectly. As your character becomes more and more like Christ as you continue to crucify the flesh, what becomes more prominent in you is the godly characteristics. Hence the automatic adherence to 10 commandments is more and more evident.
?
2017-03-31 08:11:49 UTC
Don't cherry pick 2000+ year old document. Read the entire book and understand the mind of Jesus. The law of Moses had its natural death when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD. Now it is enough if you follow the law of the land you live in
?
2017-03-31 07:42:25 UTC
There was no Bible existed in Jesus era.
?
2017-03-31 06:51:25 UTC
It is because you don't understand what 'law' means and you, just like the pharisees would have been on the forefront in accusing Jesus of breaking the same laws that you suppose He endorsed.

Take a moment and ask yourself, why did Jesus seem to break all the laws if He meant the laws were to be upheld?
Sara
2017-03-31 06:38:01 UTC
Because that way, they can justify ignoring the laws they don't like.
2017-04-03 04:19:07 UTC
Read the book of Galatians please.

This will give you better understanding on the subject.



The law justifies nobody. (Galatians 2:16)



Christians are dead to the law. (Galatians 2:19)



The law frustrates grace. (Galatians 2:21)



To go back to the law after embracing faith is “stupid”. (Galatians 3:1)



The law curses all who practice it and fail to do it perfectly. (Galatians 3:10)



The law has nothing to do with faith. (Galatians 3:11-12)



The law was a curse that Christ redeemed us from. (Galatians 3:13)



The law functioned in God’s purpose as a temporary covenant from Moses till John the Baptist announced Christ. (Galatians 3:16 & 19, also see… Matthew 11:12-13, Luke 16:16)



If the law worked God would have used it to save us. (Galatians 3:21)



The law was our prison. (Galatians 3:23)



The law makes you a slave like Hagar. (Galatians 4:24)
Gaia’s Garden
2017-04-01 06:53:19 UTC
Jesus wasn't a Christian, He was Jewish.
?
2017-03-31 23:48:01 UTC
shoulodnt gossip
2017-03-31 15:41:33 UTC
CUZ WE DONT AND WHY WOULD U CARE ANYWAY IF U DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD?? DUH....LEGALISM DIED AT THE CROSS...NEW COVENANT NOW....WE TRY TO KEEP NINE COMMANDS BUT SABBATH IS NOT EVEN REQUIRED NOW....DISCIPLES EVEN WENT TO CHURCH SUNDAY AFTER JESUS DIED ON SUN AM..
Mortal Dimunitive
2017-03-31 15:06:28 UTC
You are right!

That being said let me clarify for you and whomever else.

If you work somewhere there is a set of laws posted for all to see.

Ex: don't steal

Don't bully

Don't be late

Do good work

Do your job assignment

Etc.

These are basic laws of fundamental ethics.



If one is honest and Just he will follow these laws never even looking at them.



The LAW in the beginning was to point out to make Step by step instructions on how to be a decent human being, what you should already know on the inside but they were wicked within.

Also, key to note when someone has to tell you that you HAVE to be decent, then we know there's rebelliousness in the individual or groups heart.



So, yes technically we HAVE to follow the law but if I have the fulfillment or fullness of the law which is truth & love aka mercy then I will inadvertently follow it anyways.



Those who struggle with following the Law, which is everyone, are failing because it's not about the letter of the Law but the purity of heart.
Jonathan
2017-03-31 12:51:12 UTC
True, Jesus did say: “Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Matthew 5:17) But what does the expression “to fulfill” mean? To illustrate: A builder fulfills a contract to complete a building, not by ripping up the contract, but by finishing the structure. However, once the work has been completed to the client’s satisfaction, the contract is fulfilled and the builder is no longer under obligation to it. Likewise, Jesus did not break, or rip up, the Law; rather, he fulfilled it by keeping it perfectly. Once fulfilled, that Law “contract” was no longer binding on God’s people.
Ethan
2017-03-31 10:06:07 UTC
Don't be daft. jesus was speaking to the jews of his time and they did follow the old testament. he told them he came to abolish that. christians were not called chirstians until later.
Olive Garden
2017-03-31 09:53:40 UTC
99.99% of the 2.4bil Christians believe in the Bible; and off course the canoniZed bible is made of OT n NT - no exception.
brother trucker
2017-03-31 07:44:47 UTC
We dont have to follow any fulfilled law. A law is a legal contract only binding while in force. Jesus fulfilled the OT laws. They are no longer in force as the text you quote indicates.



No one has to sacrifice and torture innocent animals anymore to pay for mans sins. That never did pay for sin as their own prophets said many times.



Many of the scribes and law makers were dishonest asJesus pointed out many times. Jeremiah 8:8. You dont quote these texts. Why is that?
Lucifer
2017-03-31 06:28:04 UTC
Exactly. Jesus confirmed his fathers word.



What's even more ridiculous is that, in order to not look like a pack of imbeciles, they claim Genesis is "myth or allegory" once again calling their Jesus a liar.


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