Question:
If Catholocism is not Pagan Sun Worship then why do Priest have sunbursts sewn into their vestment?
Femminist Krusher
2009-06-06 12:14:23 UTC
The sun is depctited all through the church of rome from Statues carved out of gold to st peters bassilica with falic symbol!

Check out this link www.aloha.net/mikesch/monstr.htm
Twenty answers:
avomatic
2009-06-06 12:20:20 UTC
the Catholic adopted many of the simbols of earlier pagan religions, sun worship in its simbolism represents the ligth that Jesus brougth to the world. The simbolism of the phallus represents both the strength of the church and the ability to create anew, the phallus also being an ancient pagan symbol.
harpertara
2009-06-06 12:27:11 UTC
As the oldest Christian religion, and the one closest, in many ways to paganism, because the first Christians were either converted Jews or pagans, many of the symbols and rituals of the Catholic church have their roots in paganism. However, the Catholics do not worship the symbols, but use them as guides to the worship of Jesus. The sun, in Catholic or other Christian sects, represents the Light of the World, Jesus. There are No statues carved out of pure gold (gold can't be done that way); but there are many gold gilded ones. The phallic symbols seen are again pagan symbols but represent the ability to create anew, which is the male function in procreation.
Charles & Willa
2009-06-06 12:27:57 UTC
For decoration or symbology?

No where in Catholic literature has sun worship ever been mentioned. Worship is a conscious act. No one can unknowingly worship the sun or anything else. Does wearing a cross make one a Christian? If it does ,then I guess wearing a picture of the sun makes one a sun worshipper.

I am wearing a shirt with a dog on it . Glory be to Dog in the highest ,and p*ss on Earth, and doo doo on the ground ,Aw Man.
TRUTH QUEST
2009-06-08 07:28:40 UTC
The most profound thing about one who is deceived is they themselves do not know it.



Satan has used the Catholic Church as an instrument to counter that which is the Truth.



The Catholic Church (The Harlot) and her daughters (Protestantism) are actually "counterfeit Christianity".



The "Small Flock" as described by Jesus are those described here.



Revelation 12:17

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
lyn1136
2009-06-06 15:34:04 UTC
No True Catholic Traditional priest would allow Freemasonic/pagan symbols in his chapel. His vestments, chasuble, and alb, must be identified with traditional Christian chi-rho letters or the Crucifix of Christ.



Freemasonry was just being tried out on the people in the 1960's. They were duped into thinking it was the "ecumenical" thing to do. By 1970 almost all the True Catholics had left this false church and its papal freemasonry symbols. With valid priests, Mass and sacraments were administered in small private chapels, or hotels, banks, and the "back of the police station." There was good reason to get away from the Conciliar Church by that time!



These new monstrances and vestments reproduce Freemasonic symbols, obelisks, etc., replicated in their writings and speeches. They are the symbols of Satan, and of the Counterfeit Church about which I have been writing on yahoo. Gerry Matatics writes about it on his biblicalfoundations.org website.



A "sea change" took place in 1958 with the election of the first false pope. The whole world was against Roncalli, even those who did not know he was a Freemason. Membership is forbidden. . A pope is excommunicated by automatic speciallisimo modo, (self accused by the doctrine).



Those who knew didn't speak up. A "new control" was being created. If they could last through one generation, and get to our children, then we would be out of the way and their "freemason" would work. A lot of brainwashing was needed, hence Opus Dei and Cursillo took charge. In spite of the newbies here and everywhere who deny it now, remember, they weren't there at the time! Yves Marsaudon, a bishop at Vatican 2 brags about his freemasonry.



You are talking about "catholics" using the Catholic name. It means nothing. It is no longer the Catholic Church. It is the Counterfeit Robber Church, the one rich with masonic symbolism.



I guarantee no traditional Catholic priest would use any of these symbols, not on the vessels or chasubles, or even be in the same room with JPII, let along with his satanic monstrance and host!



There is more, but the "catholics" are going to give the opposition and the Catholic here a good going over. "catholics" are daily brainwashed still, surrounded now by EWTN, by the "community" of ecumenism which ties the knot of obedience now to "the pope" rather than to the doctrine, and by "one of their own" on FOX NEWS, defending the scandals and crimes, and reinforcing any strays from taking off.



True Catholicism survives --its valid priests and members knew their doctrine. They dared to call the Counterfeit Church Treasonous. The plan was to create a generation gap of teaching the catechism. Let the old one disappear, teach vague beliefs, after 20 years publish the replacement. It works. Writers who support the True Catechism had no podium before the internet, so the names are not known to the "catholics" under 50: Patrick Henry Omlor, Hutton Gibson, Gerry Matatics, Fr. Dr. Coomaraswamy, Fr. Malachi Martin, Bill Strojie, Fr. Kevin Vaillancourt, Paul McCabe, Fr. Egregyi, John Daly, John Lane, Fr. James Wathen, Fr. Cekada, Fr. Sanborn, Mary Ball Martinez, Br. R. Ibryani, Bshp. Lefebvre, and Paul Fisher, etc. Each has done battle and been brutally treated by the Conciliarist Counterfeits.



All of them ask, Why Are You Not Catholic?



For those who never knew true Catholic Doctrine, it is about time you did, in spite of the daily brainwash you are going to get when your "priest" is confronted by you and calls us the “heretics.” Then you say, “No, Father, a heretic is one who denies doctrine; which doctrine do traditionalist Catholics deny?” He can’t name one. If he tries to lead you into the obedience discussion tell him vatican 2 popes and council must obey previous popes. If he tries to say traditional priests are not valid, you say, "Father, the men were ordained under the rite of Trent by a valid Trent bishop; they are valid." Welcome to the True Catholic Church of Christ.

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Stella
2009-06-06 12:40:22 UTC
While there is a lot of Solar imagery in certain Catholic holidays (Christmas leaps immediately to mind), I think that's more from the co-opting of the date, and trying to make Christmas "make sense" as a "replacement" for Pagan Solstice festivals, than any connection of their god or Jesus to a solar deity. The symbolism in the actual church buildings comes from much of the same process.



As a Pagan myself, Apollo definitely isn't the first god I'd associate with the Abrahamic god or Jesus.
Mrs. C
2009-06-06 12:38:45 UTC
I assume you yourself are christian. I would also then, admonish you to soften your heart towards catholics. There is pagan doctrines and practices and false doctrines in every denomination and no believer is free from deception, including you (and me).



At this time, christians have 1.4 children per family. Islam has 8 children per family. Being that America is a democracy - where majority of votes make laws ... Islam could one day occupy enough seats in our government to change laws. Catholics and Mormons are the only ones bringing children into the world. Children that will someday vote. Catholics may some day save all of our @ss's. So be grateful for them, because they are your family in Christ, and that damn sun means nothing in reality when another religion who is growing in size would rather chop your head off.



Its time for Christians to come together as family, and revive our spiritual life (with our without a stupid emblem of a sun) for a battle that is not too far away.
Rodeo Clown
2009-06-06 12:40:17 UTC
everything in the sky, everything under the sun and moon is a pagan god or symbol; cross, fish, eagle, wreaths, olive branch, trees, mountains. Since you chose an avatar with an star or eagle (I presume) or the healing snake on your cadeus (medical symbol) do you worship a pagan god through it or is it your god? What about some of the pagan symbols on the money the pagan god blessed you with?
ʄaçade
2009-06-06 12:35:50 UTC
I do not worship washing machines. Yet my jeans have washing instructions sewn into them. The sun is good for us overall (wear block). One can use the sun sign without making it a worship sign.
palaver
2009-06-06 12:23:43 UTC
Get a life and go at look at a vestment catalogue!



I presume you mean 'phallic' symbol. It's an Egyptian obelisk, which wasn't in its present position till the 16th century.



Sun worship? Blow the dust off your Bible and find out from which direction Jesus said He would return at the end of the world. Hint: think resurrection symbols from the earliest times.
☥ Kirra Blackhart ☥
2009-06-07 03:10:18 UTC
The whole "born of a virgin/died on a cross/rise after three days" is sun worship. Of course they have suns sown on their dresses.
Lone Ranger,Christian Israelite
2009-06-06 13:11:08 UTC
For a better understanding where the RCC got it's beliefs and symbolism study this site:



http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/default.htm
2009-06-06 12:21:14 UTC
The Sun is symbolizing God.



That's what I think.
PaulCyp
2009-06-06 12:23:57 UTC
What you probably ignorantly refer to as the "sun" is the Eucharist, the host, with the light of Christ emanating from it.
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2009-06-06 12:34:23 UTC
why ?did you know that sun worship actually came from out of those ancient false religions abominably practice way back in the ancient land that was known as babylon?? during the first powerful kingdom that ruled the world under king nebuchadnezzar?ancient babylonia!!now in modern iraq!!this is where all these catholic beliefs yes which are pagan that are now mixed in with false legalistic christian practices (they)do mix with a (false concept) of biblical christianity!!this iwhy in the book of revelation god forewarns about the catholic church as an religious apostate!! she is the woman who sits on seven mountains!!she has a name written on her!! you want to know what it is??? babylon the great!!!!!

pagan all the way my friend!!!!my suggestion read up on babylonian ancient religions from the ancient babylonian empire!!!study their practices and compare them to that of the catholic church practices!!you will see similarities!!did you even know the concept of setting up the virgin mary as a diety actually came from the false practice from ancient babylonian false religious worship of a woman they worshipped in like manner?!!!named i believe seramis??you might find this also mentioned in their religious practices of those ancient babylonian religions why do you think the pope stargazes?astrology was even a false religious practice of ancient babylon!!well, hope you see the dangers connected with accepting the false teachings of the catholic church in studying this out for yourself!!sincerely rick andrew!!
Moondoggy
2009-06-06 12:19:57 UTC
Wow - absolutely hopeless. It is rare to encounter people who have no capacity to reason - I have to admit, it is kind of a strange experience for me. Maybe I need to get out more.
2009-06-10 05:34:23 UTC
U guessed it.
richard feldman
2009-06-06 12:22:26 UTC
catholics are full of pagan rituals hell the bronze statue that everyone kisses is actually jupiter false god from the pantheon matter fact the pantheon which was a temple of all the gods was change to a church wow........also hell greek mythology burning forever yea dont exist .............mary you wanna know why they worship her lol well lets just say they added a pagan name to her as well sadly to say events are about to take place heed to your bible and believe in God FOLLOW HIS ORGINAL 10 COMMANMENTS AND EXCEPT GRACE!
Athєist's Nightmarє
2009-06-06 12:19:22 UTC
Something tells me that you didn't think up that argument all by yourself.
2009-06-06 12:18:54 UTC
GOOD QUESTION!


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