Question:
My Son-in law is upset because I told my grandson about God?
2015-04-14 11:08:38 UTC
I'm a 50 year old father of four.
My oldest daughter as a 7 year old son.
I absolutely adore my grandson, I see him as like my own son, in some ways.

Anyway about two weeks ago, my grandson went through a very scary experience, his best-friend was hit by a car.
Thankfully the kid is alright!
Anyway my grandson was pretty scared about what happened, and so I told him a bit about how God must've been looking out for his friend, hence why he survived.
And I also told him that if he was good, that God would look after him too.
My grandson began to feel better afterward.

Anyway when my grandson told his dad, his dad came straight over to my house and asked me in a very upset way: Why I would tell him about a fairytale like that?
I told him that because God is a real person to me.

Over the course of the conversation, he got very rude with me, and told me that if I ever talk about God to the boy again, that I would no longer be able to see my grandson.
Of course he'd have to deal with my daughter first.
Because of his rudeness, both to me and my wife when she came to my support, I threw him out of my house!

But the thing is, I don't see what I did was wrong.
My grandson was scared, and what I told him comforted him.
So how am I wrong for expressing my beliefs, and striving to comfort my grandson, who was pretty shaken up over what happened to his friend?
192 answers:
Radical for freedom
2015-04-15 07:46:17 UTC
I think you were wrong. Here's why. You didn't tell him something that would necessarily comfort him , you told him something that would comfort YOU.

I think that's rather selfish and disrespectful to your grandson's actual parents. Imagine when your kids were young and they've been through some disturbing experience

and somebody tells them ' Allah, in his gracious glory, was watching your friend. If you're good , Allah will bless and watch over you too.' Then your child comes home

tells you that a relative was teaching them Islam is true. I'm fairly certain you as a Christian would NOT be exactly happy about that. Your grandson is NOT your child and

just as I'm sure you believe that parents should have the right to raise their own children how they see fit then shouldn't you respect that universally , even if other

peoples' children are not learning about what YOU believe. I'm sure you knew his father was a non believer and that he came to a decision with his wife not to teach their kids

to hold religious beliefs. You disrespected that and your son in law is angry because you still do not realize how disrespectful that was.



If you felt the need to bring up God to your impressionable grandson then you could've done so in a better way than saying ' If you're good , God would look after you too.'

Why not tell him Allah , Buddha, Shiva , etc? All those gods including yours have no objective evidence for their existence so why the picking and chosing? I would've told him

'Some people like grandpa believe god was watching over your friend while others like your father think that scary accidents just happen sometimes.

Either way, let's just be happy your friend is safe.' That would be much more respectful and objective rather than preaching to vulnerable and impressionable children.
Hiya
2015-04-14 11:24:35 UTC
The problem is that you introduced religion to your grandson in order to comfort him. God might be real to you, but not to everyone around you. I suppose your actions can be seen as "projecting your beliefs onto someone else."



Comforting people isn't a bad thing, but it isn't always a good thing either. I think your son-in-law sees it as "giving false hope" or bending the truth.





Also, you did say something about "I also told him that if he was good, that God would look after him too." I think this part is the real issue, the real reason why your son-in-law is so furious. You are telling your grandson that he will get a reward from something that may or may not exist if he acts a certain way. Your statement may seem more like a bribe instead of actual advice.



In this case, I would say that you had good intentions, but used the wrong method. You could have told your grandson that his friend was fine, without having to use the god explanation.



UPDATE:



You say that your daughter does not mind if you teach her child about god. The real issue is still with your son-in-law.



I advise that you let your grandson discover god on his own, because pushing something like this too far is too risky. If your son-in-law does not want you to teach his son about god, then you are better off respecting that decision. At this rate, if you keep it up or keep pressing to teach god, you can potentially drive a wedge into your grandson's family.



Your grandson will eventually hear of god one way or another anyway. Whether it is from a friend, at school, etc....
Alex
2015-04-16 05:53:37 UTC
It's because you're teaching him about God as being factual. If you'd started by saying that SOME people believe in God and you're one and think that maybe that was what protected his friend, then explained that it's up to every person to decide for themselves if they believe in him. I assume anyway



I'm not only atheist, I'm pretty anti-religion - I won't start throwing opinions at you like I know any better, but if I were in your son in law's position i'd (although maybe not as rudely) take offence as well. Some people just don't want their kids being told "God is real" if they don't believe it themselves.



Best course of action is to call him, apologise, say you meant no offence and didnt mean to intrude on his stance as a parent, you thought it would be of comfort to your grandson and didn't consider that a non-christian might be offended by what you said. Tell him you'll leave God out of any discussion with your grandson until he's old enough to understand the debate and that if the kid asks you anything baout it in future you'll be clear with him that it's only your opinion and no one knows for sure.
Think Different
2015-04-16 00:29:08 UTC
If you insisted on such crap and I was the father I would Not allow you to be with the grandchildren alone and if you brought it up again I would Not allow visitation. I notice how you stated "I am a Christian" for a good reason. If you stated you were Muslim or Hindu or something less acceptable not a Christian would agree it was the right thing to do. God is always acceptable when it's YOUR god. You are brainwashing your grandson. You THINK you know the right god but you can't prove it. All you can prove are old stories that have little if any historical credibility to back them up. Why don't you just tell your grand children what they should choose for schools, occupations and pick out their spouse while your at it. You think god is so important yet you would stake your grandsons eternity on your bet. The god you think is the true god.

edit: Furthermore if god was looking out for your grandson's friend he shouldn't had been hit by the car to begin with. The whole thing is just non sense. Keep your religion to yourself or share it with those who identify with it. Why don't you tell your grandson how god was looking after Giordano Bruno, Italian philosopher and scientist, who had his tongue nailed to a stake and was burned alive by Christians. All because he was teaching the sun is the center of the solar system. Something your grandson should already know.
Jeancommunicates
2015-04-15 17:11:49 UTC
Every time you see your grandson keep telling him about Jesus. You are his grandfather and the elder in the family even if you are the father of the mom and not the dad.



It would have been nice if your daughter had listened to the Lord when He said, "Not be yoked to an unbeliever." If your son-in-law did not believe in God surely a pastor did not marry them. The pastor should have known God's word. They were probably married by a Justice of the Peace.



You may not be the child's father, but you are his grandfather and your son-in-law is to respect you also. Stand firm because these are the latter days and your grandson's soul is of great importance. Your daughter will need to deal with her husband, but you have done no wrong. You loved your grandson enough to tell him about Jesus.
Nowpower
2015-04-15 12:49:54 UTC
I'm an atheist who has no problem with what you did. Had the child been younger than 7 I would not be comfortable, but as it stands, you are a beloved family member expressing himself to his grandson.



And you didn't mention hell. I don't think it's at all healthy for anyone of any age to be told that they will be tortured eternally by a so-called loving being who watches them constantly.for mistakes. It's also pretty inaccurate to state they'll get special protection from this being for certain behavior. You are aware that statistically speaking misfortune occurs at the same rate to everyone, religion notwithstanding. figuring in other contributing factors.



You want to be careful to say nothing but truth to this child. He's counting on you.



Differences between beliefs is okay and love is love. I think his father's behavior made it very likely your grandson will retain clear memories of this.



I think it's very important that everyone should become comfortable as soon as possible in life that everyone sees out of their own two eyes and no two people see the same thing.



Our grandfather being treated with love and respect for his intentions is more important than deities. Dad may really appreciate having taught his son that when he is older.
NameNotRequired
2015-04-16 01:52:12 UTC
Sounds like you are leaving out vital information ... but assuming that this story is exactly as what was displayed, then your son in law sounds like an asshat. If your story is true, it sounds like your son in law is anti learning.



To learn about everything is a good thing, but to restrict a person into thinking a certain way is to brainwash them. If your grandson is being raised in an environment where he is being told that religion is a fairy tale and that there is no god, it is just as much brainwashing as if you had to say to the child that there is a god and all other gods are fairy tales. Brainwashing is not restricted to the religious.



If you comforted your grandchild with the thought that God was looking out for his friend, this is not bad unless you were given express instructions not to talk about God/gods. It is not your fault if you spoke of these things if these instructions were not given. They are part of your core beliefs and it is something that is intrinsically part of you and something you want to share with your grandson (I would support this thought if the roles were reversed as well or if you were Hindu, Asatru, etc).



There is no reason for your son in law to be an asshat ... but that solely depends on whether or not your story is fully truthful. Omitting vital information might leave the truth behind, but half a truth is still as bad as a lie.
Tamara
2015-04-15 11:56:28 UTC
I personally think that your son-in-law didn't have a right to be confrontational about it or call it a fairy-tale as that was rude to your beliefs. The child might not know what God is so if his friends told him or something he'd learn it from them and be just as believing towards what they tell him as he is to what you've said. So really he should be told about religions and get to make his own mind up as he grows and not be persuaded to be Christian or atheist.

His dad needed to realize that this is something that would comfort his son when he is worried about death. It is a kindness to tell kids God and heaven exists even if he doesnt to stop them being scared. Just like the belief in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy, etc. makes children happy too. I bet his dad said santa exists to him though, right? And that's a proven thing that he doesnt. So how can he argue that God doesnt exist.

His dad needed to be more respectful to your beliefs and to you for comforting the grandson. Obviously he won't be happy as he doesn't believe and wanted his son to follow in his footsteps.

I would just tell your daughter about this and then keeps out of it. If your grandson comes asking questions about religion then he has a right to know still. But if not don't tell him about it since it's the parents job to raise him. Good luck
❀✿☺Flowerchild☺✿❀
2015-04-15 06:48:39 UTC
your Son-in law sounds like a bitter, negative anti-theist. You didn't do anything wrong; you told the truth to your grandson and you did your job. Perhaps one day you and your son in law will talk about this again with your grandson listening, and he will see how his father is rude, and how you are not being rude. It will have a lasting impression on him as he goes through life, and may be just the thing he needs to recall to save his life.



The real fairy tale is those insisting there is no God. God is very real, and God does provide comfort, direction and peace.
2015-04-17 16:29:38 UTC
What you did was absolutely wrong.



It isn't your decision about what your grandchildren are taught. That's for the child's parents. If I was in your son-in-law's place I'd have done the same thing.



I believe that your being disingenuous. You probably already knew your son-in-law's position on this matter and you thought I'm teaching my grandson about god despite what his father wants. Your wife shouldn't have come to your defence. You were wrong and she shouldn't have tried defending the indefensible.



If your going to play your daughter off with your son-in-law you're creating problems which with your beliefs you shouldn't be doing. You're not being a good Christian. If your daughter and son-in-law don't agree on this matter it's for them to resolve and not for you to wade in and make things worse.



Teaching children about one religion and raising them in that religion is child abuse. Children should choose a religion, if they want to do so, when they're adults and can make their own choices. Teaching about religions (not one, all) is good but not effectively forcing a child into a religion.



I think you know you're out of order and came here in the vain hope you'd be told otherwise.
?
2015-04-16 02:29:18 UTC
Granted it may not comfort him at least you tried. Coming from an atheist all I can say is as long as you don't try and force religion on him and let him make a decision for himself I see no problem. Your son in law may have got upset because he thought you were forcing it upon him. Religion should be followed only if the follower wishes to believe it but not forced as then it will have a negative effect rather than a positive. I hope you sort it all out :)
glcang
2015-04-16 04:24:06 UTC
I think you should have kept your big mouth shut. Especially about using that subtle 'religious" blackmail" " God will watch over you if you are good too" nonsense. I have nothing against Christians but you over stepped the line. You took advantage of a boy in a scared state to instill in hm , your belief. All of which may be false, by the way. Threr is no truth in beliefs. I also think that if you were in your Son in laws shoes and someone told your son that there was no God, you would also have a fit. You could look at your son in laws reaction as a measure of his concern for the well being of his son . It was not your job to impose your beliefs on this boy.
2016-01-30 16:58:40 UTC
Also, you did say something about "I also told him that if he was good, that God would look after him too." I think this part is the real issue, the real reason why your son-in-law is so furious. You are telling your grandson that he will get a reward from something that may or may not exist if he acts a certain way. Your statement may seem more like a bribe instead of actual advice.
?
2015-04-15 11:51:48 UTC
Clearly, you said the right thing in talking about God to your grandson & your son - in - law needs to know the Lord! But to say that if he's good God will take care of him is not accurate. After all, none of us is really 'good'. Only God is good. James 3:2 says we all fail in many ways. To say, 'if you trust God, He will be with you when you die & throughout life' may have been better to say. God has great plans for your whole family. Pray for your grandson, daughter & son-in-law as prayer is a mighty weapon against spiritual battles.
True Blue Brit
2015-04-18 01:55:52 UTC
I take issue with the fact that many children, even Christians, are killed. Was God not looking out for them? Just this week nine Christians were thrown overboard and killed by Muslims, in an attempt to reach Italy by boat. It might comfort you, and your grandson, but really, isn't it a lie? We teach children to be good, and God will look after them? But it's not true, is it? It's not a guarantee. Wouldn't it have been better to say: " Sometimes we make mistakes and the punishment is really bad. That is why we have road safety rules." rather than getting a child to believe that an angel will save them. God isn't always there for us. And I speak as one who has had a miracle in my life.
Kent
2015-04-14 11:14:25 UTC
In-laws are tricky to begin with, but throw in different religious views and things can turn quite nasty. Here is my personal opinion. Eventually it will be up to your grandson to decide for himself what he thinks about the existence of God. Whether someone is a believer or not, I think we should all be able to agree that believing or not believing is a matter of personal choice. Your son-in-law has the right not to believe and you also have the right to believe. Your grandson also has the right not to be caught between the two of you. He has the right to develop and decide for himself. I hope the adults can learn to get along so that the grandson isn't torn between the two of you! I trust you can both make things work and keep things civil.
nate
2015-04-16 19:36:13 UTC
You know, you did the right thing. The son-in-law was hiding his kid from religion so that the son would believe what he did. That's not right at all, he is only seven but he needs to know about these kind of things. As long as you don't try to convince the grandson what you say is right, it's fine. You need to tell that son-in-law that even though it's his kid, he has no right to say what that kid can and can't believe in.
?
2015-04-18 14:17:27 UTC
Honestly your forcing your beliefs on a child that doesn't know any better. His Parents haven't told him about God for a reason. A don't believe you should teach a child about God , because they will believe anything that adults tell them. You should wait to introduce a child to religion and not teach them about religion according to your beliefs , but an un-biased view of all religions. Instead of saying God was looking out for his friend , you should have just said "The Universe was there for your friend" or something. If he chooses to be a Christian when he's older , that's fine , but for now , let him develop without religion. A child being raised without religion is more empathetic to all different kinds of people and is less of a judgemental person. Stay Faithful. If it is meant to be , he will become a Christian.
Misty Blue
2015-04-15 16:26:06 UTC
I suspect your son-in-law is annoyed ,not so much about telling his son about God, but that you disrespected his beliefs and his right to choose how his son is brought up. I suspect there's more to this than you are letting on and your comment that you think of him as like your own son is very telling and the truth is you are concerned that your grandson is not being brought up Christian. You need to understand that your meddling could be extremely harmful for all concerned in the long run and if you love your grandson you need to know your place and that is not as this child's father.He has a father who is entitled to bring his child up as he sees fit.

Perhaps you are a controlling type of person? Live your own life and let others live theirs.
DosCentavos
2015-04-14 11:22:53 UTC
I understand and believe your son-in-law overreacted. Just because he is an atheist doesn't mean he should be disrespectful or rude. Your approach may need to be more reasoned and logical. (E.g. The child was small and he was not seriously hurt because of principles of the conservation of momentum -- and kids heal fast.)



But in all honesty if a god were watching out for the child, there would never have been an accident and you would probably not have gotten into an argument with your in-law in the first place.
Jimbo
2015-04-17 05:21:38 UTC
Unfortunately for you, your son-in-law is a complete jackass. That said, as a Christian, you should have known by now that your son-in-law was intolerant of his child being exposed to anything outside of his dad's world and his opinions on God. If you didn't, then your committed a faux pas and you should have apologized to him and accept the fact that he is intolerant of different thoughts and beliefs. Leave the religious matters to your grandson's parents until he is old enough to make decisions about such things on his own.
Kristine
2015-04-15 22:07:15 UTC
Your theology is wrong. The Bible does not teach that God will protect and take care of those who are good. In fact it teaches the opposite: that God causes the rain to fall on the righteous and the unrighteous (or rather that there's no marked difference between what happens to believers and unbelievers). I'm an ex-Christian myself, and part of the reason for that is having spent years being told that if I was good God would bless my life. I was good and did all I could to honour and follow God but my life has been one awful nightmare after another.. Some people just have shitty circumstances happen to them and there's no evidence that supernatural forces have anything to do with that one way or another.
Space Wasp
2015-04-15 00:24:27 UTC
I suspect that you are leaving something out of this story, it seems very likely that you have previously been asked directly not to try and 'teach' your grandson about your belief in a god.



When religious people finally realise that they have no right to indoctrinate other peoples children (and yes, that does include your own grandchildren) with their unsupported beliefs, the world will have become a much better place.



Your son in law is right to be upset, your actions do not make you a good person.





Edit:

It seems pretty clear that you are only really looking for confirmation that you have 'done good' from people who think the same way that you do.

No matter how many other interfering god believers butter you up the way you want, your behaviour is wrong. You do not have the right to force fairytales on your grandson, against your son in laws wishes.



If your beliefs have any genuine basis then your grandson would accept them after being taught about them at an age acceptable to both of his parents. The problem is that, deep down, both you and those who share your religious views, know that you are far less likely to indoctrinate your grandson if you don't start why he is too young to understand the lies.
Steve B
2015-04-15 09:02:15 UTC
I really have a hard time believing this.

But, assuming it is true.



I find it unlikely that your grandson will remember much about the discussion.



My wife is Jewish. One son is a bit more Jewish than the other.

My nephew decided that they both needed to know about Christ.

I told him that it was not necessary. THey both would be OK.



The child will encounter many people with differing ideas on religion.

A parent can't insulate your child from them.

A parent needs to guide their child though this as they see fit.



There is no reason to threaten each other.
?
2015-04-15 08:01:33 UTC
Your son in law is a fool, and you can't reason with a fool. He is the father, and you're the grandfather of that little boy, and you've rights just as much as he does.



And if he doesn't want you to teach your grandson about the Lord, then I would ask him and say to him:

"Do you rather me talking to him about the Devil instead of God? and see what he would have said.



He is an idiot and a pompous prick.
Michael Jackson
2015-04-15 02:10:58 UTC
The reason he snapped probably goes deeper... He probably feels like you are encroaching on his son too much and to be honest you said it yourself when you said " I see him as my own son, in some ways" The boy is not your son he is your grandson which gives you rights to love but not rear. Saying that though your son in law will probably live to regret the way he has handled it and it's not how i would have because messing with the wifes father opens up all kinds of doors to nasty places. He will probably apologise now after getting some weight off his chest.



Anyway good luck!
2015-04-15 21:24:49 UTC
Saying the God watched out for his friend, fine. But to tell your grandson that God would look out for him if he was good, not an intelligent thing to say to a child. That's scaring the child into thinking he has to behave good otherwise God will kill him or let someone else kill him.



If a child is being raised in lack of your faith by their parents, that's up to the parents. And you shouldn't bring up your beliefs with the grandchild unless you also tell them what other religions teach. But ask the parents if that's ok. Maybe they are teaching them world religions and letting their child believe what he wants as he grows up, to think for himself. You raised your children and let the grandson be raised by his parents. If your grandson asks you questions about God, churches, heaven, you can tell him what YOU believe but make sure he knows that's what YOU believe in that that he doesn't have to believe in it. And then tell his parents the questions he asked you so it can be discussed at home.



I was raised by Catholic, strict Catholic, parents and forced into Catholic school. I rebelled. I raised my son as a Catholic after I returned to the church myself after 15 yrs of leaving it. But I didn't force my son into. I taught him world religions. And why I believed what I believed. My son is agnostic adult now and I'm a non practicing Catholic CHristian that studies the bible. I still am looking for the answers that I had when I was a child and my parents couldn't answer.
Power
2015-04-16 13:16:50 UTC
You lied to your grandson. God does not keep us safe from things cause we are good. I know you meant well. Your s-I-l may have experienced something you are not thinking about such as a sibling that died that doesn't talk about or being molested. It's horrible to think that you have been a good person & something bad happens anyway. You count on God & feel like an idiot. I hope you understand your s-I-'s view of this.



He is actually thinking clearer than you are. It's like you gave your grandson a pill & said drugs are good just take this & you will feel better. There are explanations for things that happen but they take a lot of wisdom to understand. Your son in law knows this & wants his so to think & understand life better than you understand it.
lostnsavd
2015-04-14 22:00:45 UTC
Dear Friend,



I am so sorry about your situation with your son. Sadly, there are many people for whatever reason these days, agree with your son's beliefs.



You may have been told by your son not to talk about God to your grandson, but that doesn't mean that you have to stop loving your grandson as Christ loves him. In other words, allow your 'lifestyle' to be your witness for Christ. After all, it wasn't Jesus' words that attracted the multitude as much as it was His ...lifestyle.



Pray for your son. Pray that the Lord remove his blinders and that he will one day be able to see spiritual 'truth' with his spiritual eyes and ears. Pray for your grandson as well. You have planted a seed dear one, now allow the Lord God to water it.



Tender blessings,
?
2015-04-14 18:32:52 UTC
You don't need to award best answer, because this is obviously not. But just look at the other answers, and then share the song "Children will listen" by Barbra Streisand. It is a really good song, but it is literally telling them what they will know for the rest of their life. In my opinion, you did the right thing. But to your grandson, you put a rubber band on both of his fingers, and you put a rubber band on yours and your son in laws finger, because no matter what, 2 people will be snapped as the other lets go. Because if your grandson is christian, then that will literally be you letting go of the rubber band, hurting your son in law, and your grandson, because his dad will not be proud of it. It is also the other way around. He chooses to be atheist, then your son in law would be letting go, and your grandson will be snapped, because you helped him through a rough time, so of course he will look up to you. If your son in law is upset about his son finding a meaning to life, thats fine with him apparently, But you can always count on your daughter. If she grew up with you, then she is probably a christian. She will most likely side with her husband with this kind of stuff, because You have done your part with her, and you willingly let her go. If she is a christian, she WILL side with you. I didn't even know about god in depth until I was like 6, so I think he should know about him, to at least know. After that, he can decide. Yes, he is only 7 years old, but to believe, or to not, is up to them. If your son in law chooses to not believe in him, he can go to hell.
2015-04-15 05:49:19 UTC
Since this is your daughter's son and she was okay with it, I don't see why your son in law is so upset. At seven years old, your grandson should start to be introduced to various beliefs in an age appropriate manner.
Mackenzie
2015-04-15 15:20:36 UTC
When your daughter was young, would you have been okay with someone randomly telling her that the Hindu Goddesses were there from her taking care of her?



If so... then you can understand why it bothered your Son-in-Law. God might be real to you but is apparently not real to the child's father, so telling his boy about your God is equivalent to telling him to rely Hindu Goddesses or fairies or big foot for help.



This makes no sense though-- does your family ever talk? How could you not know your SIL is atheist? How could you not know that the child's parents don't want you talking about God? If they didn't want you talking about God, why did they not tell you?



I respect people's right to make those decisions for their kids. If you know about those decisions you should respect them. if you didn't know, they should not expect you to be a mind reader. But you've been told now, so you should just accept it.
?
2015-04-16 01:03:16 UTC
Bad things happen to good people. What about babies that die less than a day after they are born? Were they "bad"? We will all have trials and some tribulation in life. Some times are prayers are not answered, even if we are good. You have to respect your son-in-law's wishes for your grandson.
malcolmx
2015-04-14 18:20:17 UTC
YOU DIDNT SAY ANYTHING WRONG. You did exactly what Jesus would have expected you to do. You publicly and lovingly shared the existence and love of God. And if he can't handle that that is too bad. As a grandparent you also have rights so he'd better not come with you wont see your grandkid anymore.

the best thing to do is just pray about it. Okay? You dont need our approval to talk about OUR creator but I am behind you one hundred percent. Jesus said if you deny me before men I shall deny him before my father. He also says to raise your children up in the admonition of the Lord. Tell your son to get his act together and accept Christ because he is returning very soon. I know. I have been to heaven. Spend your time with your son and keep on talking about the love of God. Everything you said was absolute truth. God bless you and your wife. Fear no man who can hurt you. Fear God who has power over the body and the soul. Your grandson will remember and respect you.
sara
2015-04-15 14:34:12 UTC
Dear sir,



although there may be different people with different views suggesting you were wrong, I can assure you that you were not. simply because you were trying to comfort your grandson. it is a human instinct to comfort those we love. you did what you thought what right.



I am a 21 year old girl with a hindu background. my father has spoken to me about god looking after me etc, but i am agnostic and lack belief. i was not angered by his words and i do not feel your son should have been, after all you were just trying to comfort your grandson. perhaps your son just thought you were being imposing and wanted his son to make his own decision when he is old enough.



I'm sure he regrets speaking to you with disrespect.
Daymellow
2015-04-15 22:41:25 UTC
first I think you should ask God how to deal with this very delicate situation.. then you should prepare yourself to respond to your son in law.. remember as a Christian.. you will be rejected and persecuted for your faith.. but God does not leave us alone to handle these situations...

If I were in your situation.. I would ask God to help me find a way to come to a peaceful agreement with your Son-in-law. After all the eternal life of your grandson and daughter are at stake... learn to give a reason for your faith... here are some suggestions to learn more on how someday you may be able to talk peacefully to your son-in-law about your position and concern... but meanwhile ask God for guidance and pray for your family and Son-in-law...

books to read for how to talk to atheists...

-a case for Christ- by Lee Strobel-ex-atheist

-who moved the stone-Frank Morison

-the unshakeable truth- Josh Mcdowell (ex-agnostic)

-I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.(Norman L. Geisler, Frank Turek)



who knows maybe this is the door that God is opening for the salvation of your family...
2015-04-16 14:46:05 UTC
It is not safe or sensible these days to assume that "everyone" believes in God or that "this is a Christian country". and therefore it is acceptable to express Christian views or beliefs. Many people are hostile to Christianity/religion in general. Not just uninterested, actively opposed and hostile.



It's generally accepted in our society that parents have a right to bring up their children according to their own beliefs and conscience (within legal bounds of course) Clearly your son in law has chosen that his son will not be taught belief in God and I think that you have to honour this while he is a child and subject to his parent's authority. Okay when he is older he might be completely indifferent or hostile as his father but I think you have to leave the "God" talk until he is an adult. Apart from anything else you are putting your daughter in a bad position between your and your views and her husband as his. She can't please both of you, can she? You may expect her loyalty on this issue and her husband will expect her loyalty to him and his point of view. She can't win.



I don't think you have the right to ignore your son in law's wishes and talk to your son about God. Not now that you know he is completely opposed to "the opiate of religion". Show your grandson by example what it is to live a Christian life. Actions speak louder than words anyway.
thegreatone
2015-04-15 18:13:02 UTC
By law, and by custom, the parent decides whether the child hears about God.



But, it was ok for you to tell your grandson about God. Your grandson is just as much your descendant as he is your son-in-law's.
Luke
2015-04-15 04:53:06 UTC
If God was looking out for your grandson's friend, why did he get hit by a car in the first place? Sometimes kids get killed by getting hit by cars. Does that mean God doesn't love those kids? He doesn't think those kids are worth the trouble to look out for?



You have every right to throw your son in law out of your house but one day you may get thrown out of his house. Your daughter may take your side.



If you want to drive a wedge between your grandson's parents, this is the way to do it. Get them to disagree on something, keep bring it up around them and eventually it may drive them to divorce.



Then your grandson will get screwed up by being raised by a single parent. I should know because I was raised by a single mother and it screwed me up. Kids need two parents. Don't drive them to get divorced or your grandson will grow up to be just like me.
?
2015-04-17 16:18:50 UTC
I think it is natural (and sweet) that you wanted to reassure your grandson like this. However, if your son-in-law is atheistic and does not want his son to be exposed to something he does not believe in, you should respect that. The fact that he was disrespectful to you is inexcusable, but if someone told one of your children when they were young that God WAS a fairytale, not real, etc., you would be angry as well. It is contradictory to his belief system and somewhat undermining if he has raised his child in a certain way.
2015-04-17 08:41:17 UTC
"But the thing is, I don't see what I did was wrong." - You are supposed to be "as cautious as a snake and as innocent as a dove", in telling the Truth. The child would never grasp the concept Yeshua said to His Disciples: "You think it is easy for anyone to snap the life of any of you from the Father's Hands?" I would rather have used "...unpredicted happens to any one of us", as Ecclesiastes stated.



"And I also told him that if he was good, that God would look after him too." - this is not true. He has already accepted a Price for our behaviour: the Christ. He paid it ALL. All your grandson has to do, is Love ("I AM the Truth, the Way, and the LOVE... ") God; He will take care of Him. He cannot be like Yeshua. No one can. He IS perfect, not a blemish.



Just love your child; if God wants, He will call Him, if his heart is receptive. You cannot "make" someone love God. No one can. btw, I'm a follower of Yeshua as well, a 'brother' of you.
az
2015-04-16 02:03:18 UTC
A Muslim is not permitted to marry a atheist(among other things), it's not a marriage, you might as well be fornicating, in fact if they later on turn out to be a disbeliever, then he/she's not legal to them though you can be kind to them and the marriage becomes null. So your daughter's mistake was in marring her husband and your mistake was in not advising her against it. She can rectify it by separating from him (even though it could be that a believer might die as a disbeliever and a disbeliever might die as a believer) because what's more important, the belief of God over anything else. For the prophets of the past there was nothing more important than this, Yacoub/Jacob on his death asked his sons what will they believe after him, even though they were all prophets and were from prophets there was nothing more concerning for him than this.
Barbara Doll to you
2015-04-16 04:07:23 UTC
I don't know if there is a God or not, but I do understand that just because I don't believe, understand or can comprehend something has anything to do with whether it exists or not.



I also believe that whether there is a God or not is irrelevant to the fact that it does comfort people and is a crutch for their mental health. A lot of people now have mental health issues and take drugs, where in the past they would have comfort from their God. I think people need to believe in God, for their mental healths sake, whether he exist or not.
2015-04-15 14:36:52 UTC
Your son-in-law is very protective and also quite bitter. It's human nature for your son-in-law to react that way. Some people do not like being told things they reject and if especially it's being told to their own offspring. He's just being protective. However, I have great respect for what you did because the important thing was his happiness. Even you told him fairy tale things and you comforted him and made him happy that is NO PROBLEM. It's like the same way that Santa Clause will give you good presents if you do good.



You did a good job to comfort him :) Kudos to yah.

I'd like you to be my grandpa.
?
2015-04-15 14:10:03 UTC
From what I understand of the situation, you didn't really say anything wrong to your grandson. Your son-in-law should be able to talk to his son candidly about people's religions and beliefs without feeling the need to sway him one way or another. You are talking to your grandson about how your own beliefs and values, and as long as he understands his freedom to believe as he chooses there's nothing wrong with what you did I think.
?
2015-04-16 22:00:48 UTC
Hi there! I'm SO proud of you! You did the right thing. I don't want you to pay attention to how Hiya answered your question. She said that you made the grandson feel like he'd get a reward if he were good. That is actually in the Bible, so you did no wrong! Behold, I come quickly, and my reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. Revelation 22:12



Now that you know that you did everything right by God, be at peace. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding. Proverbs 3:5



God is going to do something incredible in your family. If it takes time, keep trusting. He is faithful, and He has never told a lie!



As for the son-in-law, keep a good relationship with him. You have thrown him out of the house. Is there any way you think you can mend that relationship? And then, once he's back around, just be friendly. Also, it is so important that your grandson know about God. I am confident that God will open up doors for you to talk about God with him.



We are going to pray: We need You Lord. This situation is too messy for us, but You turn the mess into a masterpiece. It's some kind of situation because it happened so quick, but LORD you are BIGGER than any situation. Lord , You said ask and we shall receive. We are asking for Your help, and we believe we have it in Jesus name. Amen



God loves you, and He is going to help you get through this!
2015-04-14 20:55:00 UTC
Continue to teach your grandson about God. It's super important for children to know God,
2015-04-16 02:41:33 UTC
I would not be "upset" about this myself, but as a grandfather,

I would wish to find out just what the parents of a particular

child have already told the child and what their personal life

philosophy is all about, before I said anything at all.



You could approach the issue from a "this is what I believe"

about life etc., but personally I would simply try to comfort

the child in other reassuring ways without bringing God into

the equation.
2015-04-14 13:01:23 UTC
I will say what MANY atheists have said to Christians. If atheism is such a weak position that one person suggesting something else may be true will destroy it, then perhaps no atheists should be an atheist.



Your son-in-law is being an idiot.



And to all the hypocritical atheists (not al atheists just the ones bashing this guy) here... If the roles were reversed and the grandfather suggested that there may be no god, you would be saying the exact opposite thing, you hypocrites.
2015-04-14 16:04:39 UTC
Were you aware that you son-in-law was an atheist? If so then you are going against his wishes, if not then I can understand that you felt flabbergasted by his reactions.



Did you do something wrong? Only if you were aware of his non beliefs, otherwise no you did the right thing comforting the child and teaching him about God



Its sad when people hate God so much that they can't even bear the mention of his name or God being taught to Children. However, I think your grandson must be a good kid who may possibly even become a Christian in his later years? But only time will tell, he just needs to be taught correctly
Zach
2015-04-16 08:32:11 UTC
Everyone has the first amendment right to say what they want about anything. Your son in law should get his panties out of their not and realize atheism is not the only religion on Earth and that you has his wife's father and raiser have ever right to tell your grandson what ever you want. If it is about evolution. Ok. If it is about God. Ok. You still have the right to o either or both. I am tired of atheist thinking the first amendment means freedom "from" religion rather than freedom "OF" religion.
?
2015-04-15 07:19:14 UTC
It appears to me that your son-in-law did overreact somewhat, although of course we cannot know the whole context of your family relationships from your brief description.



The fact of the matter is, 7-year-olds are much more canny than people think, and they can absorb different points of view and eventually make their own decisions on what they want to believe in. So you did nothing wrong in presenting to him your point of view, especially since that seemed to comfort him. The important thing is to show the boy what you really feel about the matter in a heartfelt way: he will gain something from this. His father may present the issue in a different light: he may gain something from that too. Then, when he gets older, it will be up to him to decide which doctrine to follow, yours or his father's; or maybe he will choose another path...
☯≈♥∞☼
2015-04-14 21:42:35 UTC
religion being taught to the child should be 100% the parents decision when they are children and then as adults it can be their choice. but it should not have been your decision to bring up god without talking to your daughter and son-in-law about this. i am very surprised that since you've known this guy at least 7 years that y'all wouldn't already know where each others stands as far as religion goes. i am surprised that if he is so mad he didnt say something to you over the last 7 years asking you to not bring up god to his son.

i dont think what you did was right but i dont think you did it maliciously. i put some of the blame on your son in law because if it is that important to him he should have talked to and your wife about it already.
chick b
2015-04-15 09:58:50 UTC
There are secret talks going on in europe at this moment to change the law and make it illegal to indoctrinate children with religious teachings under the age of 16 years of age,it is considered by the worlds top interlects that religion invented by man is the most evil thing that has ever come from a human mind,it causes war murder crime,and the sooner this evil indoctrination of people is abolished the better the world will be,and the sooner the better ok.
2015-04-16 08:43:53 UTC
You acted like a grandfather should. And it seems to me that your son-in-law is slightly hotheaded.

Yet he is your grandson's father wether you like it or not. Throwing him out the door is NOT very wise : what will your grandson think of an that action like that than???
?
2015-04-15 22:44:11 UTC
My son and I do not see eye to eye on spiritual matters so even when my grand daughter showed an interest in what I do I was unable to include her because honor thy father and mother extends to your grand child's father and mother. When she turned 18 it changed and she may sit up in church with me this weekend. Also, it is one thing to say God must have been watching out for his friend which is on one level and might be all right but telling him if he were good God would look out for him too is not something you can tell another person's child without first knowing it is something acceptable to them no matter how righteous your intentions.
By Faith
2015-04-14 18:01:56 UTC
I believe we are in the last days prior to Christ’s return for the true believers in Him, and the following verse kind of fits your son in law.



2Pe 3:3, Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,





The following verses show me that you did the right thing and your son in law is just a lost soul. You have nothing to be sorry for.



2Ti 4:2, Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.



Pro 22:6, Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
?
2015-04-16 10:35:12 UTC
It's like making up a new Santa Clause or Easter bunny except saying but this time IT IS true. Even if you DO believe it, giving an impressionable child unrealistic expectations about life and death is setting them up and that's why he is pissed. I think he could have been a bit more understanding about how he handled it with you. but I do get where he's coming from.
?
2015-04-15 10:44:01 UTC
Hello.



First, your son-in-law's actions and statements say a lot about who he is. Maybe it would help to remember back when he married your daughter. Did they have a church wedding? Did you and your son-in-law ever talk about yours and his religious beliefs? Did he ever go with you as a family to church when he was dating your daughter? Did he ever say anything about not believing in God?



It may help to understand where he is now in his religious beliefs. Depending on what he seemed to believe in the past compared to what he believes now, perhaps he is angrier at God than he is at you. But you represent God to him at the moment so he thinks he can block out God if he keeps God out of his life. Of course, we know that God has a way of working Himself into peoples lives if He chooses to do so, whether or not they want this to happen.



Trust God for your son-in-law. And be Jesus to your son-in-law. Keep calm, be above the fray, choose to not engage in or start religious arguments with him. Shower your son-in-law with the love of Jesus and do the same as you have always done for your grandson. What attracts people to Jesus Christ many times is not what we preach about Jesus but how we love them like Jesus. And when people see us being patient and kind, generous and loving to all those around us, they want what we have. And that means they want Jesus. Pray that your son-in-law finds the Light that he does not know he is looking for. And pray that one day he will reflect the Light of Christ to others as well.



And know that I will pray for you and your family as well.

-you are loved by the Creator of all-
Lavender
2015-04-16 08:58:49 UTC
I think that it is the parents choice to teach them about religion. Or in this case, to not teach them. Which is what I plan on doing with my children, and then when they are old enough to make an educated decision they can learn about different religions.

However, the way your son-in-law went about it was very rude and unnecessary, I think he just wants you to respect the fact that he doesn't want his child to be told about religion in such a manner.
david
2015-04-15 02:16:55 UTC
we say that quite recently Christ spoke to us via His current disciple about such things and said that No child under say age of ten would ever be taught religion, This is the factor in our lives that must change.

Children are just that and they have their own fantasies to work through.

As and when they are old enough to make up their own minds they can choose religion or not and parents should soon enough abide by these great teachings.. why teach a child adult themes they are confused enough by current educations etc. let them live with their peers and not to force feed them adult themes. Om Shantih.
?
2015-04-17 00:27:53 UTC
You did the right thing. Your son in law is obviously an idiot and he doesn't think about his own son if he plans on stopping you both from seeing each other.

You should be proud for putting your foot down and kicking him out of the house.
UFOs
2015-04-15 14:09:57 UTC
You are looking out for the soul of your grandson. Pray that God will soften the heart of your son in law.
?
2015-04-15 14:21:43 UTC
I don't think you are wrong for talking about something that you believe in, but I think you were wrong for imposing it like it is a fact. Saying things like 'God must have been' or 'God will do this' etc. I know people can make up their own minds on things, but you shouldn't make it seem like it is a fact. Just because it's your belief (and that's fine everyone is entitled to their own beliefs), it doesn't mean it's true in his eyes.

That being said it was a bit drastic for him to threaten to not let you see him.
John
2015-04-14 13:03:24 UTC
Your arrogance is insufferable! What gives you the right to start foisting your religious beliefs on someone else's child? If you had young children, how would you feel if an atheist or a Muslim took it upon themselves to give your children the "truth"? I have to say that I fully understand your son-in-law's reaction, and despite not being an atheist I think he was fully justified in his reaction. If he and his wife do indeed cut you off you have only yourselves to blame.
Ken
2015-04-16 09:59:16 UTC
Do you actually not know, and is this why you are asking atheists, catholics, and strangers? What does the Bible say, bro? That is the question. The media, soft, liberal version of Jesus who is Santa claus and wants to bring peace on earth, without Him, and He loves all gays and all sin, the real Jesus is much different.



I said all that to prepare you for what the real Jesus Christ of the Bible said. He said I came not to bring peace but a sword. For I am come to set father against daughter, husband against wife, etc... You love God and do what He wants 1st, and let the rest be as it will. There's your answer. May God give you the strength to serve and love Him with all your heart, and serve and love your family and others 2nd.
☦ICXCNIKA ☦
2015-04-14 11:44:21 UTC
Faith has an important role in keeping us sane and able to continue. my good friend Angel for truth- lost her best friend at a young age and was going through years angry over it.

He soul and mind started to find peace when she saw the following verse from the duterocononical books which is in the Catholic and Orthodox cannon of scripture.Wisdom 4:7-14 The just man, though he die early, shall be at rest. For the age that is honorable comes not with the passing of time, nor can it be measured in terms of years. Rather, understanding is the aged crown of men and an unsullied life the attainment of old age. He who pleased God was loved, he who lived among sinners was transported, snatched away lest wickedness pervert his mind or deceit beguile his soul. For the witchery of paltry things obscures what is right and the whirl of desire transforms the innocent mind. Having been made perfect in a short while he reached the fullness of a long career. For his soul was pleasing to the Lord, therefore He sped him out of the midst of wickedness. She started to rebuild her faith and lose her anger. So you did the right thing. If you like this answer please give her best answer...as it is her life.
yazz
2015-04-15 12:23:09 UTC
You did absolutely nothing wrong. Your son in law needs to learn some manners Not to be rude to you again. His dad can tell the kid that god doesnt exist...you can tell him that god does exist and the kid will go with his Heart. Your son in law wants to bring the kid up not knowing anything about god...but thats not fair coz hes not giving him a choice in what to believe. Hes injecting his own athiesm into his son. Your son in law needs a punch in the face....from me.
LeBlanc
2015-04-16 18:19:43 UTC
You are part of your grandson' "discovery process."

It is not unreasonable for him to know the perspectives and practices which comfort his living ancestors.



He learned from you the practice of compassion and dialogue. He learned the practice of close mindedness intolerance from his father.



There are many different opinions and perspectives from different people. Regardless of what he chooses to believe, he still must encounter Humans who perceive things different than he. You and his father have prepared him for that journey. It would be nice if you daughter's husband and you could have a stating points of view in the grandson's presence. He would benefit from a mature discussion on the matter.
?
2015-04-19 14:26:14 UTC
I'd think it was because it wasn't your place to tell. Your son-in law has his views, and by telling his son, you views, you are going against his wishes. It may seem wrong to you how your son-in law reacted, but in the end, you were in the wrong. I am sorry, and I hope for the best in your family matters.
nightcrawler 0_2
2015-04-15 15:45:16 UTC
God is a very real to me, but what you said was out of order and disrespectful to God and the father of your grandchild and also scripturally incorrect to boot, please try not to claim titles which your actions show to be debatable, that's exactly why so many point fingers.



My advise is to apologise to your son in law, stop using your daughter as leverage “Of course he'd have to deal with my daughter first”, and use your time to study scripture properly to realise why what you did was so wrong on so many levels.
2015-04-16 06:56:49 UTC
If there is a God though he obviously isn't looking out for any of us.



I believe in these beings and believe they put us all here. But c'mon, they're obviously evil and don't care about any of us. I mean, c'mon.



If there was a good God that made this place and he was looking out for kids wouldn't they not get hit by cars? How can you say to a kid that got hit by a car that anyone was watching out for him? He got hit by a car, so no one was watching out for him.
banana
2015-04-15 14:01:16 UTC
I also am not allowed to speak with my grandchildren about my faith or God. How do you handle such a situation? You respect the right of the parents to make that choice and you obey it. However, you show your grandchildren love and kindness and if they ask questions (which they will by the way) you tell them honestly that you are not allowed to share your beliefs with them. But you continue to conduct yourselfl in a fine Christian way.



Being a Christian does not give you the right to teach another child your beliefs if the parents have instructed otherwise. Since we believe we are sharing truth with them we don't understand their parent's reasoning but again it is up to the parents to teach them such things - ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE - unless at some point your become a guardian. The parents with be held accountable - by God - for the decisions they make with their children and they will have to live with those decisions.



SAD EXPERIENCE: My best friend has been a Christian for about 30 years but her husband never shared her faith. Not only that but he continually persecuted her and would not allow her to teach her children what she believed nor would he allow her to take them to her religious meetings. His reason: He wanted his kids to be like all the other kids, and be involved in the same things they were. Now, 30 years later all three of their children are alcoholics. Neither one of THEM ever drank. Their daughter - the oldest - has been in jail for DUI's and injured a person whe she was driving drunk. She is now facing prison for extorting money from her employer because of her addictions. Their youngest son has never been able to hold down a job because of his drinking and their middle son also has problems due to alcohol abuse.



Now the husband has decided he was wrong!! He began going to meetings with his wife, studying the Bible and recently got baptized. How does he feel about how he prevented his children from learning a better way of life? He suffers immensely! He has serious heart problems and suffers from bouts of depression.



This may not sound too encouraging but it helps me to see how different these kids lives COULD have been if he had just been reasonable and allowed his wife to teach them about God and not interfered. They would eventually have to make their own decisions about the matter but at least they would have had something to choose from.



The Bible says you can win a person over "without a word through our conduct". That will have to be the way for you. I pray that you will continue to show respect and love to the parents of these kids, not bad mouthing them etc. Continue to show by your way of life (if your beliefs are truly Bible based) what kind of a person you are as a result of having a relation ship with God. Remember, your grandchildren will be adults a lot longer than they will be kids and maybe once they've grown they will make different choices than their parents. jw.org
?
2015-04-16 13:22:08 UTC
Many atheist are just that way, they say they do not believe in God but in reality hate God, and it looks like your son-in-law falls into that group. Those that hate God get all worked up and emotional about the issue.
Ron
2015-04-14 15:20:48 UTC
Son in-law needs to learn respect for his elders and parents of his wife. Sounds like a bully and this is a way to separate his wife from parental influence. Grandpa should have already discussed this stuff with both his daughter and son-in-law. People need to communicate.
PedroJesus
2015-04-15 12:51:18 UTC
Your son-in-law sounds a little over the top, and may have handled the situation poorly, however, I can relate my own experience to you from my family:



I'm an atheist and so is my brother. Both of us used to be Christians like our parents. When my brother told my mom he was an atheist in his late 20s (he's 10 years older than me, BTW), she was freaked out at first... then she realized (probably) who controlled access to her grandchildren.



That shut her up fast! We never heard a word more of god-talk from her! In fact by the time she died she'd lost her faith herself I suspect. She did not want her god believing friends around her much (they annoyed her) and she did not ask for a priest to be present at her deathbed (she's stopped going to church LONG before). She faced her death bravely with all of her family around her till her last breath, and not a word of god-talk (we would have respected her faith, if she'd had any, but she just never brought it up ever again).



My Dad is still alive and is still a Christian. He never had an incident like that though and respected my brother's decision about how to raise his children (who turned out to be two beautiful kids, now adults, and neither of them are believers). In turn, we respect his beliefs. When we eat Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner with him and his wife, and they bow their heads in prayer and want us all to hold hands around the table, my brother and I and his kids hold hands with everyone else and bow our heads as well out of respect. He doesn't saturate us with god talk and so we don't feel like we're being proselytized to, and thus there's no problem. Hell, I even go with him to his church on Christmas Eve and sing carols with him!



My standard advice to teens on here who are worried about telling their parents they're an atheist is that the power dynamics will shift dramatically once they're out on their own with the prospect of having their own kids. That's how it worked in my family, and it worked beautifully. I think my mom realized that the life she had and could experience in the here and now was far more important than vague promises of something better to come in the hereafter. She went with what was real and demonstrable. I think all Christians know this deep down and would make a similar choice. I've had zero Christians take me up on my challenge:

http://stuffconcerningstuff.blogspot.com/p/lacsaps-wager.html



I think part of the reason is because deep down Christians realize that their lives in the here and now are what's really important. This is fortunate, because when people stop believing that they start flying planes into buildings based on the lies that some sociopathic huckster tells them (their extremist religious leaders). You won't find the sociopaths flying planes into buildings (those cynics don't believe their own lies)... that's what the chumps are for that fall for their BS about paradise. The chumps are just as dangerous as the sociopaths that tell them what to do, IMO.
2015-04-15 11:01:03 UTC
I asked the father if he intended his kids to be raised Catholic. When he said yes I provided samples of children's activity books--I believe they were Magnifikids ( http://www.catholiccompany.com/magnifikid-one-year-subscription-i31378/?aid=117 ) . I offered to subscribe when he thought the child ready.



I will now intervene when it is time to take her to Catechism classes and perhaps take her to to Church with me and answer her questions.



If I was told he did not intend to raise the children Catholic then I would have worked on him and his wife directly and not approached the child. In the old country I would have authority over him and would not need to ask. The USA is not the old country; some adaptations are required.



Whether, when and how to teach children about reality is the duty and privilege of the parents in the USA. I offer to help in his doing that; I don't, as I would in other cultures, barrel ahead assuming he wants to do things my way.
Ok!
2015-04-14 11:43:36 UTC
Nothing's wrong about telling fairy tales to kids, to comfort them. He obviously overreacted. The reason is that he either has something against God, maybe he experienced something in past and now blames God for it and hates him. Or he simply wants his kid to think the same way as he does when the kid grows up. That's very common between many people. Due to their ego they want to shape their children the same way they are and when somebody goes against it they feel threatened, because you are essentially threatening to kill them in a way. Like a small part of them they may fail to crate for it to live on in their children.



The whole bunch of fancy psychology in it. Did you do something wrong? Well, kinda. You should not present your beliefs as facts to the kid. Neither his father tho. They should be presented as a options.
Yoda
2015-04-16 02:39:59 UTC
Lol, was bound to happen.

As long as you attempt to brainwash your grandson, so long as you'll get into aggravations with your son in law.
Isabel
2015-04-16 02:58:23 UTC
Children will believe all kinds of ****** up **** like the tooth fairy, santa claus, ******* anything and you just used that to make him believe that if he was good, there would be some kind of giant living on a cloud watching him his entire ******* life and judging him. You should have just told him that santa claus thought he was a cool kid so didn't want him to die. At least you wouldn't have to invent a whole other story.
?
2015-04-16 01:58:48 UTC
Everything is right about believing in God and Jesus, and that he died for us. This life is a battlle of good and evil. Don't let anyone tell you different, but don't force it on anyone either. Hopefully, everyone, at some point will realize that Satan is real, and he really does want to take your soul to Hell; and you must fight the good fight of faith and stay strong in order to make it to Heaven
2015-04-15 09:13:16 UTC
Your son-in-law probably over reacted, but I'm not surprised he was angry. I have two kids of a similar age and I would be livid if one of their (much loved) grandparents started trying to explain the world using Christian stories and beliefs. Kids are very impressionable. We've made it extremely clear to our family - some of whom are strongly religious - that we will take a very dim view of them trying to convert our kids. In return, obviously, I would never dream of trying to undermine their kids Christian beliefs. Those are conversations for much much later on when the kids can make their own minds up.



You are entitled to your beliefs, but not to place them on other peoples kids. You had the opportunity to introduce religion to kids when you had your own. Having said that, if you son-in-law was being obnoxious, it's not unreasonable to throw him out of your house. That bit I do agree with :)
Dani
2015-04-15 18:13:24 UTC
I'm going to just forget the main question and focus on one sentence you said which is "I see him as like my own son, in some ways."



That's very sweet, but you need to remember that he is not your child. You need to follow the parents wishes. I know you said your daughter doesn't mind, but her husband does. This means that you shouldn't teach him anything about god.



My advice is to keep your family strong. Don't create tension and conflict where one isn't needed. You are not the parent of your grandchild. Spoil him. Love him. But don't teach him about things if one of the parents doesn't like it.



It seems to me as if you have already decided that you are going to teach your grandchild about god and you just want support that your son-in-law was wrong and you are right. Minus the god thing, why the hell are you trying to shame your son-in-law? Why the hell are you trying to be the correct person? He is the father. Not you. What he says goes.



You need to have a long talk with yourself and teach yourself to be humble and some humility. You were wrong. Case closed. You weren't wrong because of the god issue. You're wrong because you're not supposed to do ANYTHING that even one parent doesn't want you to do. If your daughter wants him to know about god, then she should teach him about god. Or she should have a conversation with her husband before she gives you permission, to see if it's okay with him. You are not apart of their immediate family. You are not the parent.



Case closed.





___



On another note, I'm an atheist but my brother is Christian. I have seen him raise two beautiful kids and not ONE TIME did I ever say that they shouldn't be raised to be Christian. Never did I tell them anything about non-belief or say anything against their religion. It's because I love and respect my brother's decision even if I disagree with them.
James O
2015-04-16 15:32:37 UTC
Your son in law has 'issues' that should have been ironed out with his future wife long before marriage and how to raise children is just one, obviously

Since your grandchild seems to love you and your wife, your son in law seems unable or unwilling to put the child's welfare front and center if he is willing to isolate him from people who really care for him and he really cares for

You did not try to 'indoctrinate' the child in your religion and the reaction of the SiL is way over the top
Psychology
2015-04-15 00:50:55 UTC
There are consequences when you don't obey God's words. If your daughter is a Christian then she shouldn't of married someone that does not belong to the LORD. A narcissistic *** hole militant Atheist. If your daughter is not a Christian then YOU have failed your duty as a father! You did not raise your daughter in the way of the LORD and you failed as the leader of your household.



And no DO NOT back down, do NOT be ashamed of your actions! Jesus told you,"whoever is ashamed of my name, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him." As a Christian you shouldn't even be doubting yourself, you should know that rejection and threats is a natural reaction of the "fools".
2015-04-14 21:15:31 UTC
how about teaching your kids HOW to think and not WHAT to think? ever thought about that, you dumb@$$?



of course not. you've most likely been indoctrinated since a very early age to believe in something that has very little to no evidence whatsoever... and now you want the next generation to buy into that bullshet as well? god is "real" to you so you sneakily influence him to do the same? wow.



and btw, telling a kid about god "looking after" them isn't the only way to comfort them. in fact, it's one of the worst ways to do so. idiot.



the scary part about all this is that you're 50 friggin years old. at that point in your life, i expect someone to be wise enough to figure out how other people would think something is wrong. you know, seeing things from their perspective? thinking in other peoples' shoes?



but apparently, you STILL don't know how to do that so you came here to ask what you did wrong. incredible.
paulathome
2015-04-14 14:58:55 UTC
You know that you have done nothing wrong, But I have to tell you that Not Only are we in the last days! But All Hell is being released upon mankind, and by that I mean all whom reject Almighty God at this time give automatic licence for the worst kind of Demon Possesions and interfearances in their lives, your Son in law has a wrong Spirit! which is his Guide quite regardless of whether or not he knows it! Everyone alive is guided by Spirit and there are Only two kinds! Evil and Good and nothing in between, the scoffers can scoff and the deniers shall deny, but whenever you find someone who becomes angry at any suggestion of an Almighty God you have come across a very Dark and Evil Spirit working within that person, it is the manifestation of the emotions of the War between Good and Evil which is exceedingly Old and their end is about to become reality, and they want to take every Human with them into the lake of fire! by causing all whom will heed them to deny Almighty God, this has become the Mandatory job of all of the spawn of and the Fallen Angels themselves under their ruler Satan who's ways they did willingly follow in corrupting mankind, it is a war and you must keep your end Righteous for you and your Children, Not that you can force them against their will, it is real and it is ON, all the best.
capitalgentleman
2015-04-14 14:12:10 UTC
I am a devout Christian, and approve of you talking about God. But, you may have gotten the Theology all wrong. Did God actually protect the boy, of, was his surviving just chance? Telling someone that God is looking after them may not be the best advice to give! Yes, God sees what we are doing, but, does He really affect our lives directly as you suggest? All the time? You may end up giving your grandson a false sense of security.



Discussing Theology with children is difficult, especially in an atheist home. There is so much to learn about God, and, kids can understand only so much. You have to be very careful what you say to them! They understand a lot more than many think, but, they also take things at face value, and do not question what they here in a critical way.
LindaLou
2015-04-14 15:09:06 UTC
Nonbelievers have a real problem when what they view as nonsense is introduced to their children as Reality. He's the parent so I suppose that's his right (sadly)...but for him to lash out like that is just ridiculous. Does he think his son will go his WHOLE life and not hear about God for goodness sake? Certainly He knows that you are a believer I'd imagine - has he ever told you not to share your beliefs with his son? If not then he is out of line. You're the grandparent - and he was a jerk! I would share my faith with my grandchildren (and plan to) every chance I get - especially since he won't hear it in his own home.
?
2015-04-14 14:24:05 UTC
I can understand that your intentions were good. I think your son in law saw it as interfering and it was his place to discuss the issue of religion if and when the time arose. He has overreacted somewhat and it's not worth upset in the family.
?
2015-04-14 19:48:19 UTC
No, you did not do wrong. While we need to respect others' wishes, even family members’, no one can stop anyone from speaking about God. It is no secret God exists and that millions belief in Him, and sooner or later your grandson will hear it from others. Isn’t better that he heard it from his grand-dad?



You reminded me of Timothy’s grandmother in the Bible who was the one that taught Timothy to get to know God. Timothy’s Dad is not mentioned by name in the Bible, and the reason is unknown, but maybe it's because he was not God fearing. Yet, Timothy grew up with God in his heart because of his grandmother.



I think this is what you did:

“Stir up like a fire the gift of God which is in you through the laying of my hands upon you. For God gave us not a spirit of cowardice, but that of power and of love and of soundness of mind. Therefore do not become ashamed of the witness about our Lord, neither of me a prisoner for his sake, but take your part in suffering evil for the good news according to the power of God.”— (2 Timothy 1: 6-8)



God bless.
2015-04-14 19:55:14 UTC
I would be upset too.



You have no business pushing your preferred deity on innocent children.



Have a little self-control and some respect for your son-in-law's convictions; just like you want us all to respect yours.
2015-04-14 17:31:34 UTC
You said nothing wrong! You comforted your young grandson in the best way you knew how!

Your son in law is bang out of order with you! Is he a satanist or something??? Why is he so anti God?

Faced with the same situation as you, I would have said similar things to my grandchild about God to comfort him! I dont like the "anti" spirit that is taking hold of this world! Dont let anyone threaten you about your beliefs! Stand firm! God bless you!
?
2015-04-16 09:03:38 UTC
That is just the ememy trying to stop you FROM DOING GOD'S WILL! You need to take spiritual authority over your son-in-law and over that situation.
PEACE
2015-04-15 09:31:38 UTC
I sure hope you made up that story. What you did was very wrong.



What if, when you were a young parent, your in-laws told your daughter that there is no God and that her parents are crazy. Would you have been grateful for that?
?
2015-04-14 20:37:57 UTC
It's great to talk to others about God. But God doesn't look after those who are "good". The truth is that none of us are good, we're all rebels. God has chosen to have mercy on some of us. But God shows His goodness to all men through common grace. He causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. God is amazing, patient, and so so good.
Lorna
2015-04-15 22:37:08 UTC
Clearly, your son in law is trying to discourage your grand son from hearing other view points on life and over reacted. It is your grand son's right to know that you are a Christian and what that means so that he gets exposed to other ideas other than his father's.......shame on him!
2015-04-14 17:15:55 UTC
Oh my, how rude is he. He must really don't like his creator to threaten his father in law like that. That's terrible!!! You did nothing wrong at all. You dd a very good thing by telling him about the Lord God. But you know people don't want to hear about God. It's very sad, but they don't. He should respect you as if you were his own dad and to say,m he would not allow that little boy.be able to see his own grandfather is terrible!!! People don't know what they are doing by not allowing their kids growing up around their grandparents. They are so important to us no matter what age. That's their grandparents. My grand parents are very precious to me. He was so wrong . He should apologize to you. I would not mention God to his son anymore. He wasn't to keep his own son away from God, that's his business. It really is a shame. Imagine keeping your child from hearing about God as if God is a disease.

God forbid, if something happened to his son, he would run and pray to God. Don't feel guilty at all. Never feel guilty for mentioning God. I know God would expect you to not mention God to him anymore, because his father requested it. If your grandson mention the Lord again, I would give him a smile and touch his head and get on another subject..

Wow! God bless mankind with a family, kids a good home and job and they don't even want heir kids to hear about him.
?
2015-04-14 23:44:10 UTC
What you did was take one of the biggest parenting decisions there is out of the hands of the kid's parents. Religion is a chicken hawk. It can only get ahold of people if it's drilled into their minds as impressionable children. I know Christianity very well, having been indoctrinated into it myself as a young child. I know your cult commands you to conform your children as well, but your grandchild's parents don't want him in a cult.
2015-04-14 11:20:03 UTC
Indoctrinating the children of other people is an outrage. You wouldn't have been open to anyone filling the impressionable minds of your own children with hogwash that differed from your own so you should refrain from it yourself. There are many ways to soothe a child's fear other than filling their heads with ridiculous fairy tales about imaginary friends who will protect them no matter what.
Bruno
2015-04-15 16:10:52 UTC
2 points
Bow Before Zardoz!
2015-04-15 11:40:48 UTC
I dont necessarily agree with what you said, but nothing about it seems to warrant an overreaction like that. Something like that deserves to be discussed in an open manner, you are part of the family too. You cant just cast out family members who don't agree with you.
Grace
2015-04-15 15:27:15 UTC
I don t believe you did anything wrong, I think you comforted him in the way you know best. And for the person who said why didn t she say Allah, Buddha etc is because its her belief and she is a Christian. I do think your Son-In law overreacted, but he just may not believe the same way you do. In my opinion I would have done the same, but everyone has their own opinion of course.
?
2015-04-15 10:04:54 UTC
You did what you felt would cheer your grandson up. There is nothing wrong. You are a great granddad for wanting to make his feel better in his time in need.
?
2015-04-17 04:52:53 UTC
You aren't wrong its just that your son-in-law does not want you to speak about God so you have to respect your son-in-laws wishes.
Smartassawhip
2015-04-15 08:05:58 UTC
The Grandfather should see a lawyer to find out exactly what his legal rights are. Then after that the grandfather, the Father, and the Mother should sit down and make out a plan that everyone can agree with but everyone must realize that compromises will be necessary.
?
2015-04-15 10:32:38 UTC
1) who cares what you think or what religion YOU are? - he wasnt your child so you had no rght to push what you believe on him



2) if I was the father I would have said EXACTLY what he said



3) so its ok with you that YOU come between husband and wife cos the wife dont disagree with you?

If i were the father then you would not be allowed in the house EVER,

Cos YOU are interfering in that family and it AINT yours.



4) Bearing that in mind I would tell the wife outright that if she EVER lets you get near the child again then its divorce

Cos SHE has to choose - ME or her mother.

She cannot have it both ways when she is willing to give into you against my wishes.



5) YOU are free to believe what you like but that does not give you ANY right to impose what you beleive on others
Jan C
2015-04-16 16:19:11 UTC
This (YA) was a poor choice for posting something like that. This site used to be for honesty, learning and sharing but the Atheist have taken over. I am sorry you were confronted by anyone but that is what some people do. We Christians must pass the truth to our grandchildren.
pugjw9896
2015-04-15 15:11:38 UTC
Not very honest...or accurate...

In this system, its how the scripture says...

(Ecclesiastes 9:11) I have seen something further under the sun, that the swift do not always win the race, nor do the mighty win the battle, nor do the wise always have the food, nor do the intelligent always have the riches, nor do those with knowledge always have success, because time and unexpected events overtake them all.



I can add nothing to this explanation
Daniel
2015-04-17 05:27:50 UTC
It’s your right to teach your grandson about God. If your son in law can’t get off his ‘progressive liberal’ high horse, then tough let him be mad. You did the right thing.
The Other John
2015-04-16 03:06:38 UTC
Perhaps it would have been better to explain some road rules to keep him safe rather than lead him to think he'll be ok because some entity is watching out for him.
John S
2015-04-14 11:33:22 UTC
None of us have all the details. -- How are we going to give meaningful advise or answers to this question?



- Did you KNOW that your son-in-law was an atheist and anti-religion? - it would be hard for you to NOT know this about him. Sounds like he's pretty emotional about it.



- Have you discussed this with your daughter? Has she shared her faith with her son? Sounds like if he is 7 and hasn't heard about God - then it is likely that your daughter is raising him atheist as well.



- Did you consider their thoughts or feelings when you talked to your grandson about God OR were you selfishly trying to teach him about your faith, knowing they don't share those beliefs? OR was it done without thinking, and perhaps rashly?



- Does easing someone's emotional pain always justify one's actions? Perhaps emotional pain is part of life and helping him to get through it a BETTER lesson, then using it as a way to teach him about God.



- Why haven't you taught him about God BEFORE he's 7? Why wait 'til now? - Same question to your daughter.



- Perhaps this issue should have been worked out prior to this. Perhaps his lack of religious upbringing should have been a topic of discussion when he was 4 or 5 or 6yrs. old.



Questions into the intricacies of a family conflict could go on and on... but as it usual, the issue most likely started a while ago and hasn't been correctly addressed, which is WHY it sorta blew up.

_____________



You ARE part of the family.. so you have a limited stake in HOW the child is being raised. - which includes his religious upbringing.



BUT, your role is secondary to that of the parents. Faith and religious education starts at HOME with the parents. Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Cousins all have secondary roles in raising a child.

So you need to recognize your place. RIGHT?



I think that you SHOULD admit that you perhaps acted rashly and moved too quickly to soothe your grandsons feelings without giving thought to the larger issue (his parent's intentions and obvious lack of religious upbringing.)



I think you SHOULD apologize for acting without thinking and without consulting with them, first. For NOT respecting their PRIMARY role as educators and leaders within their family.

This doesn't mean that you harmed him or 'taught him a fairytale' - what you said may be absolutely correct - but the WAY you went about it may have been wrong.



I think you are also DUE some apologies from your son-in-law for how HE acted and the things he said in the 'heat of the moment' If he insulted your wife (his mother-in-law) then he should apologize to her, as well.



I think you COULD use this as a larger discussion with your daughter and son-in-law regarding their beliefs and how they intend to raise your grandson and to spell out your role in his upbringing. This could be actually a mistake turned into a wonderful opportunity to clarify and get on the same page. Every conflict has a positive side, if you take advantage of it.



This is also an opportunity for you to re-evaluate YOUR role and how YOU are relating to your grandson.

Are you over-reactive in trying to 'fix' his every bump n bruise, his every negative feeling?

Are you 'helicoptering in' as they say - always to the rescue, always being the hero and robbing your son-in-law and daughter their proper role in being the actual parent?



Could SOME of their hurt feelings be about HOW you always try and fix things, in general?
?
2015-04-14 14:02:57 UTC
those who KNOW the truth have to teach the younger generation so they to will know the TRUTH ( did YOU teach your daughter those facts ?) and if not why not ? and if you did what is her problem now ?



this generation and society has denied all truth and have been embracing lies, makes NO DIFFERENCE who likes it or does not, the TRUTH must be TAUGHT to the young ones and they need a chance to make a conscience decision for themselves.....



this guy needs to see that and be told that...YOUR Daughters Child and YOU as a Grandparent have that right and command to do so....if they guy does not like it, I suggest he grow up, it will NOT be the first or last time something will be told to his son, he will not like !!!
?
2015-04-15 07:49:17 UTC
Its not up to you to introduce religion in his life. Maybe your son in law doesn't want to raise him with the idea of your god
2015-04-14 11:15:53 UTC
It's up to parents to decide what their children learn about religion. This is a very delicate and difficult topic, and you should always err on the side of caution. It's really not your place or privilege to do otherwise.
gillie
2015-04-14 12:36:01 UTC
Would you have welcomed someone teaching your children about some other religion when they were growing up? Consider that this person would have assumed they were doing your child a huge favor by exposing him to the "correct" religion. Would you have been glad for the interference with your parental rights?
Naguru
2015-04-15 05:13:58 UTC
Update your knowledge and expertise periodically and give double promotion to your son-in-law and single promotion to your grandson.
Blistering Barnacles!
2015-04-15 05:37:47 UTC
Your son-in-law is right to be angry, you shouldn't preach to fragile minds like that, but he shouldn't have been rude or threatened to cut ties over a relatively minor mistake on your part.
ankur g
2015-04-15 04:58:42 UTC
You have a belief that god is a real person .... your son in law has a belief that there is no god ..... it is not a question of right and wrong .... its simple clash of belief ... i see it everywhere in human society.

Its part of the human nature to think that "what i do .. is right"



Om Tat Sat
Ford_Craney
2015-04-15 19:11:45 UTC
sorry your son in law is such a butt.You may just have to wait til your grandson gets older.
Scott J
2015-04-14 12:30:12 UTC
Because it's not your place to indoctrinate other people's children with religion. That's his parents' duty. If they prefer to raise him in a non-religious home you must respect their wishes. It was wrong of him to be so rude and accusatory with you, especially in your home, but you were wrong also.
?
2015-04-15 13:57:24 UTC
Your son-in-law sounds like a total jerk and he has no power to not let you see your grandchild for such a silly reason of saying God will protect him.
Your worst nightmare
2015-04-15 12:16:06 UTC
Maybe the son-in law wanted to be the one to tell his son about God in any fashion that he chose.
candace b
2015-04-15 16:42:24 UTC
Your son-in-law is a rude jerk, who clearly has some (underlying?) issues. He was right to express his feelings, but there was a much better way to deliver his feelings. I can only imagine what your daughter endures behind closed doors.
2015-04-14 13:51:49 UTC
some believe and some don't believe.

You planted a seed that will grow

so he has a free will now to pick

the world an what it has or

pick God and what he has.

God bless you and all in Jesus name Amen.
?
2015-04-15 14:43:31 UTC
"And also, my daughter has no problem with me teaching my grandson about God."



No, your daughter doesn't want to confront you about it. You don't know whether or not she has a problem with it. You were out of line.
Alan H
2015-04-14 13:32:56 UTC
What sort of a witness to the God you claim to believe in to throw your son-in-law out?

That could easily confirm his anti-God bias.

Apologise for that.

Your grandson will one day want to ask questions...then you will have your opportunity. We live with exactly that situation with two granddaughters. I have faith to believe that the day will come.
ChildoftheKing
2015-04-14 21:46:34 UTC
The most important thing is you pleased God.

If your daughter is a believer, it shows partly of what the bible means

when it says that a believer should not be unequally yoked with an

unbeliever.
2015-04-14 21:58:26 UTC
Don't talk to him about God. Respect his parents' wishes. Wait until he's older to talk about God, there's no sin in waiting.
?
2015-04-15 21:14:22 UTC
Understandable that you wanted to comfort your grandson.
JORGE N
2015-04-15 22:21:34 UTC
If the kid wants to know about God he will just have to go to you and ask when he is of an age where his dad or anyone can't stop him.
?
2015-04-14 12:24:52 UTC
don't listen to everyone on here, I applaud you for talking about god to your grandson. please do not deny your grandson the opportunity to know about god. you did the right thing. I hope that your grandson develops a thirst for his Christian roots.
2015-04-14 18:55:29 UTC
Would you rather be lied to in order to feel comforted, or be told the truth and deal with life's lessons? That's where the problem comes in.
2015-04-16 10:00:48 UTC
You did nothing wrong. This dude needs to be acceptant of the multicultural society we live in today, and that he cannot control his son's beliefs.
?
2015-04-16 16:18:25 UTC
What you did was wrong. It's because of adults indoctrinating impressionable children that religion is still alive today.
2015-04-16 04:39:58 UTC
Reminds me of my Granddad Arthur... I think that's a way out there thing.



What a total nonbeliever though. Your Daughter has already had children with him so... In the Bible it says s.t about not yoking with a non believer. . Blessing, but also avoiding bad company. The Bible also says that if one in a marriage etc is a believer / is of God, then that person shall cover the person who does not believe in God. You are faced with a test. You can show your mercy, all of what God has taught you in whatever functions, voices, visions, dreams, Angel arriving at 7your bedside etc etc.



The Bible later says, if someone demands something from you, , but give them your tunic also. Believer meets non believer, that standard pink/white meets black. The Bible then says cling on to what is good. Thinking about non believers is not good. The Bible says "I am The Lord, never shall I leave <7>you, never shall I forsake <7>you" <7> Your daughter is covering that guy. Sometimes what happens is, a God test of God's own, a non believer & a believer. God wants to see again that the person shall believe in God whether there is a non believer there or not. It's very places of Jobe to be honest. But Angels what.



It might just be a complex lie, which somehow is some communication strand of tongue of angels because girls of God don't actually screw up, so you're faced with part two of the test; do you believe in God yourself in yourself, or that God can be somewhere else without you telling? Evangelise. Be not broken by unbelievers. my dad is very evil, he would have me never even call on God's name, silencing the place into a chaos then a strike zone, kill zone and a planet burnt to the spacey ground. Sometimes even your own daughter, shrewder nd perfect in everyway that this guy isn't even The Father of the child, & she's well and truly secret service girl natural yanking his chain to **** him up with cancer needle later on. Who cares? God is perfect.



In the Bible it says s.t about loving God first, leave your family if you have to, that their non belief way shall put them deeper down into the hells. The Bible doesn't say . One inch punch Jesus much?



I would'nt be upset being told about God. God is perfect. I got a <> complex powers. Persecution from what. God isn't specifically a nice person , but God is perfect. Thanks be to God.
Breakthrough
2015-04-14 11:10:47 UTC
Your son is being unreasonable and abusive as teaching atheism to children is one of the most severe forms of child abuse - punishable by hell fire for and ever. Tell him if he wants to cut you out of his life he will not be allowed to speak to his wife or his daughter either.
2015-04-17 11:25:01 UTC
He should be as it's NOT your job to feed your grandson fables instead of the truth!
2015-04-14 11:12:19 UTC
I know you were trying to comfort him, but it's not your right to be telling him these things.



Put it this way, how would you have felt if someone said to your young son the opposites of your beliefs?



Try not to do it again, and respect other people's beliefs, or disbeliefs in this case!
?
2015-04-14 11:17:12 UTC
You shouldn't introduce your superstitious ideas to your grandson, especially if his rational parents don't want it- you forceful person!
Patrick4024
2015-04-14 11:10:20 UTC
You have to respect you son-in-laws wishes in respect to his child. Maybe later the child will get curious and find religion on his own,
?
2015-04-16 09:56:35 UTC
Most parents tell their kids about Father Christmas, or the tooth fairy, or some other mythical being. Why not add another to the mix. After all kids love fairy stories.
#AllforWhatsRight
2015-04-15 21:22:01 UTC
We are obligated to God to tell others about him. You should have said Jehovah is God's name.
great knight
2015-04-14 13:30:23 UTC
You didn't do anything wrong. Wants grandson to be hopeless and lost as he is. " Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."- The Word of God.

He wants to teach grandson that there is no hope and his true father is an ape. But that doesn't mean you will get along even though you are doing right.
starterman
2015-04-18 11:59:43 UTC
Hmmm, well, I would have, and have done the same thing. Guess that we are suppose to teach our children the way they should go, like, NOT to be unequally yoked. I didn't get that one done either, paying for it now.
?
2015-04-14 20:57:30 UTC
Certainly if my parent did that to one of my kids he would not see them again until they were no longer living in my home. It is not your place to interfere with the parents right to raise their child as they see fit. I would find such a betrayal unforgivable.
amy
2015-04-15 04:37:04 UTC
Honestly this is why i keep my nose out of religion. doesnt mean i dont believe it i just dont believe what i believed shouldnt be put on anyone else. your son in laws beliefs are obviously different then yours. like one person sees something one way he sees it another. he may of wanted his kid to think for himself and make his own decisions. your daughter may have your beliefs and her and him have to sort that out to compromise on what they want their son to know about. thats something they need to do, not u
yamnnjr
2015-04-15 22:04:57 UTC
He s what you call a rational objective fact-based Atheist.



The sad thing is that such blind faith in his religion is what puts him at odds with you.



In preaching antitheist blind rhetoric Atheists can be very cruel to those who disagree with their views.
John
2015-04-15 10:24:50 UTC
You should not stop telling him about God: it is your duty and right to express your opinions and your son-in-law should not hinder you.
2015-04-14 11:16:03 UTC
Since when has god looked out for anyone? How many thousands of kids die every day, believers among them?
Daver
2015-04-16 10:28:42 UTC
<< My Son-in year old son.>>



And the seven year-old is the grand son of which you speak, right?





< why he survived.>>



Or, it could be the friend's injuries simply weren't 'that' bad. . . ?

Don't get me wrong. I'm a believer, but it takes 'a lot (more) for me to jump on the "miracle train" if you know what I mean. I would have said said something a little more generic like "God was watching over him." and left it at that - especially and assuming I am aware the son-in-law is an anti-God jerk-***.





< fairytale like that?>>



At which point I would have kicked his disrespectful arce out of the house. Whatever his thoughts on religion are, he doesn't come into my house, the house of a believer, and disrespect said beliefs!

I told him that because God is a real person to me.

Therefore, I hope you didn't dignify him with an answer.





< rude with me,>>



DAMN IT!

No! He was already "very rude" from the get go!



Forgive me for asking but what did your daughter see in this creep?





< my daughter first.>>



Exactly! He's an idiot; going to you directly with these moronic threats about breaking up the family when he hasn't even put it passed his own wife yet!





< of my house!>>



Thank God it happened eventually.

Like I said, throwing him out of the house would have happened shortly after he began disrespecting me in my own home.





< did was wrong.>>



Morally, nothing.

You did nothing wrong.





< him comforted him.>>



And the proof is in the pudding .





< to his friend?>>



Like I said, you're not wrong.

Oh, people uncomfortable with their own lack of Faith, will not appreciate your openness and willingness to share your Faith, but that's more about them working through their own issues with themselves.





<>



Amen. So am I





< my actual son.>>



Yeah, you were clear on that. You did say son-in-law.







And also, my daughter has no problem with me teaching my grandson about God.
?
2015-04-14 20:38:36 UTC
You as a grandparent were sowing the seeds of god belief in the young mind, taking the accident as an opportunity, keep your beliefs to yourself.
☦Angel 4 Truth☦
2015-04-14 11:12:05 UTC
you are not, the guy is a jerk, my niece's fiancé treats my grandmother the same way and the whole family dislikes him for his attitude



You have EVERY right to take an interest in your grandson's wellbeing
the big man
2015-04-15 07:26:02 UTC
what would you have told your grandson if his friend had died?

naturally i wouldnt want that to happen,but where would god be then?just curious
2015-04-14 13:43:07 UTC
He is not your son and you had no right to do that before asking for pemrission from his real father.
Corey
2015-04-14 13:51:56 UTC
He reacted appropriately. It's not your place to indoctrinate his child. And exploiting his son's distressed state is despicable. Especially since you're teaching him to hate. You told him that when bad things happen to people, they deserve it. Like when a person is hit by a car and dies, then your god wants them to die. And that if he didn't adhere to your religion, your god would kill him.



You overstepped your bounds, in a damaging way. And now you're whining that a father is being rude for calling you out on it. Heroine also would have comforted his son, but you'd be wrong for giving that to him too.
antonius
2015-04-16 00:48:27 UTC
I truly see holes in your story and do not believe that anything as you described actually took place. The manner in which you wrote it sound made up.
2015-04-16 12:45:19 UTC
What your son in law did is not okay, but what is the question?
Wellll... hello then!
2015-04-15 13:14:10 UTC
He's going to learn here or in the spiritual world when he goes to hell,which is the better way to learn?
numlock
2015-04-14 17:49:38 UTC
religious delusions are a kind of mental illness.......you should apologize and promise not to talk about your imaginary friends around your grandson.....
Khakidoodle
2015-04-15 08:57:50 UTC
your son-in-law needs to realize that, no matter what he says, his sone we'll learn about God and decide for himself. the question is, who does he need to hear.
JASON
2015-04-15 00:49:05 UTC
PURE LOVE IS THE COHESIVE POWER OF THE COSMOS. IF YOU HAVE MISTAKES, LEARN FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE A GIFT OF GOD. IF YOU WANT TO SEE, OPEN YOUR HEART AND CLOSE YOUR EYES. EVEN IF WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CREATOR OUR HOPE DOES NOT DIE. VENTING OFF IS VERY HEALTHY; KEEPING IT ALL IN IS POISONING.
2015-04-14 11:10:34 UTC
Perhaps you should consulted with the parents before telling your grandson about a god you have no proof exists.
Gregory
2015-04-14 11:15:38 UTC
you were not wrong your son in law was wrong

you can tell your grandson any stories you want
?
2015-04-14 14:55:34 UTC
Did you tell him he gets 72 virgins if he marytrs' himself.
military supporter
2015-04-14 14:25:26 UTC
I would do the same thing as he did. That is child abuse. Telling him some mythical super duper sky wizard is protecting him is stupid. Lying to the kid is all the reason needed to ban you and your wife from ever seeing the kid again.
Native American
2015-04-14 19:06:05 UTC
well, next time tell your grandson about the deaf mute invisible man.
?
2015-04-14 11:13:16 UTC
You are not the parent of that child. You can't talk to him about things his actual parents disapprove of. Get over it.
Chen Shen
2015-04-17 12:55:42 UTC
OMG, how dare u spreading ur evil cult theory to a yong child that is civil disability?! U re DeviL!!!
Roger
2015-04-15 10:03:48 UTC
Its because he doesnt know god, do your best to tell him hes real
2015-04-17 00:37:34 UTC
the child will think for himself when he grows up

in the mean time parents and grandparents should set a good example.
Stuart R
2015-04-15 03:32:49 UTC
Obvious troll is obvious
Godsproblemchild
2015-04-15 03:10:12 UTC
Tell him anyway but make sure you tell him the truth. The deap hidden truth of the gospel...

it goes like this...

Jesus loves me this i know,

for the bible tells me so.

Little ones to him belong,

they are weak but he is strong...



YES JESUS LOVES ME!

YES JESUS LOVES ME!

YES JESUS LOVES ME!

THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO!!!



Jesus loves me loves me still,

and i know he always will.

If i love him, when i die,

He will take me home on high.



YES JESUS LOVES ME!

YES JESUS LOVES ME!

YES JESUS LOVES ME!

THE BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBLE TEEEEEEEEELLS MEEEEEEEEEEEEE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



Send him back to his "daddy" (who probably wont be around long) with a song in his heart.
?
2015-04-15 20:07:36 UTC
"Incidentally, I'm a Christian."



I'm amazed you felt you needed to add that.

~
2015-04-16 14:39:16 UTC
If you tried to brainwash my kid like that I'd kill you.
Ed Harley
2015-04-14 19:15:06 UTC
Religion should always take a backseat to family.
?
2015-04-14 11:09:47 UTC
Lying to children is frowned upon, it's child abuse to teach things to them that have zero evidence. Mind your own business, grandpa.
Patrick
2015-04-17 16:27:38 UTC
take it to God
2015-04-14 11:13:08 UTC
Ask for forgiveness.
James
2015-04-16 13:24:49 UTC
It is never wrong to tell someone about Jesus.
2015-04-14 11:12:45 UTC
You were wrong to give him false hope like that.
Greedo.....
2015-04-14 15:19:04 UTC
not everyone believes in god.
2015-04-15 16:07:23 UTC
Would you want your kid preaches to about islam? no? There you go.
2015-04-16 18:30:49 UTC
That is your fault for telling him
2015-04-14 11:09:41 UTC
Keep your nose out of their family business you twisted harridan.
Demon
2015-04-15 03:41:21 UTC
atheists
tictic
2015-04-15 00:11:35 UTC
religion is bias
Hey you
2015-04-14 17:11:38 UTC
sorry to hear about your idiot daughter
?
2015-04-14 21:37:54 UTC
The child will thank you.
?
2015-04-15 14:11:21 UTC
comfort him
?
2015-04-15 14:10:38 UTC
i undestand
2015-04-14 13:44:36 UTC
DEGENERATE.


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