Question:
Christians, is your God either All-Knowing (and thus responsible) or not All-Knowing?
Cineva
2013-01-22 04:18:31 UTC
If your God is All-knowing, He knew in advance that when He created Satan, Satan would rebel, create a Hell, do evil, and let souls burn forever. If God is All-knowing, He's obviously responsible for the existence of evil&hell.

If Satan merely used his free will, and believers claim (like I see constantly in this R&S section) that because of Satan's rebellion God can't be held accountable for evil&hell, then He's not All-knowing.

Which one is it?
Twelve answers:
?
2013-01-22 06:30:58 UTC
This is the sort of thing that made me turn away from Christianity, among other things. I believe in a concept of the devil **"in a manner of speaking"**. I believe God is all knowing in a manner of speaking. I don't believe it makes God responsible for the "devil" or evil, though. Knowing about something doesn't make one responsible. From what you wrote, I could almost infer that you think evil has a purpose, if you were a theist. My personal belief is something like this (as a description): God is like an ocean and we are drops of water. There is no ocean/God without the sum of us all. God is the spark and the life breathed into the world and the collective part of us and the sum of all knowledge and experience, etc.. There is the spark in all of us that connects us to a larger mass. I know of crimes, tragedies, etc.. it doesn't make me responsible. 
The Lightning Strikes
2013-01-22 06:42:53 UTC
This is a two-part question. The first part is “Did God know Satan would rebel and Adam and Eve would sin?” The answer lies in what the Bible teaches about God’s knowledge. We know from Scripture that God is omniscient, which literally means “all-knowing.” Job 37:16; Psalm 139:2-4, 147:5; Proverbs 5:21; Isaiah 46:9-10; and 1 John 3:19-20 leave no doubt that God’s knowledge is infinite and that He knows everything that has happened in the past, is happening now, and will happen in the future.



Looking at some of the superlatives in these verses—“perfect in knowledge”; “his understanding has no limit”; “he knows everything”—it is clear that God’s knowledge is not merely greater than our own, but it is infinitely greater. He knows all things in totality. Isaiah 46:10 declares He not only knows everything, but He controls everything as well. How else could He “make known” to us what would happen in the future and state unequivocally that His plans will come to pass? So, did God know that Adam and Eve were going to sin? Did He know Lucifer would rebel against Him and become Satan? Yes! Absolutely! Were they out of His control at any time? Absolutely not. If God’s knowledge is not perfect, then there is a deficiency in His nature. Any deficiency in God’s nature means He cannot be God, for God’s very essence requires the perfection of all His attributes. Therefore, the answer to the first question must, by necessity, be “yes.”



Read the rest here

http://www.gotquestions.org/if-God-knew.html
Angela
2013-01-22 05:39:05 UTC
Oh it's you...Supa's mentor. The answer is yes and He is responsible, He created Satan/evil did He not? You pretend intellect but fail miserably. Jesus was crucified as an innocent offering. Blood offerings were important apriori to the crucifixion (lambs). Jesus came as Savior, Redeemer and the blood offering negating Mosaic law. Read a book, you're embarrassing yourself.
Steel Rain
2013-01-22 04:28:29 UTC
John 1:3-4 (New Living Translation)

3 He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn't make. 4 Life itself was in him, and this life gives light to everyone.

You are correct.
Tiger
2013-01-22 04:38:10 UTC
God has no problems with taking responsibility for all the killings He have done, does and will do. To even question this with our limited ability to understand is kind of fatal. He not only knew what Satan would do, He will it so. God does not look forward to who is going to be saved or not, and changes His plan accordingly. He decides who is going to live eternal and who is never called. If we ever want to call God omnipotent-omniscient-omnipresent this is the only logical conclusion, and it is supported strongly in the Bible.



I could give you a bunch of Bible verses supporting this, but I guess you would never look it up. Feel free to mail me if you are truly interested.



MIMI
?
2013-01-22 04:54:21 UTC
God commanded Adam and Eve to leave one tree alone and they disobeyed. This shows three things. 1) that obedience to God is voluntary, 2) that disobedience brings consequences, and 3) God loves us enough to pay the penalty for our disobedience if we'll let Him.



If God wanted to prevent sin, then He would have either destroyed Satan before Adam and Eve ever came along or not given them the power of choice. His goal was never to prevent it, but to show His love for us by redeeming us from it.



When Satan sinned, God had a rebellion on His hands. It wasn’t a surprise to Him when it happened, but it did raise two questions that had to be answered. Was He righteous and just in condemning Satan (and by extension all who would follow him), and was His condemnation a sign that he really didn’t have a true sense of love and mercy for His creation?



To answer these questions God created man, a being similar to angels in that both have intellect, agency (free will) and eternal life. Then He gave man a set of laws to live by. If man kept God’s laws he would dwell with God forever, but if he broke even one he would be condemned forever. There would be no loopholes, no favoritism, no exceptions. Righteous laws, perfect justice.



Knowing that man could never keep His laws and would be condemned to eternal punishment, God became a man Himself and bore the penalty for all of man’s sins saying that whoever agreed to accept this substitution would be regarded as though he had never sinned and would have eternal life. Unconditional love, unquestioned mercy.



All of God’s righteous requirements were met by this, there’s no contradiction between His word and His deed. His justice, His righteousness, His mercy, and His love were displayed simultaneously, and because He left the decision to man to accept or reject His act of unconditional love, He did so without violating man’s free will.



At the End of the Age when God gathers all of His creation for judgment, both those who want Him out of their lives and those who want Him in their lives will receive exactly what they asked for forever. It’s absolutely fair and the questions about God’s motives and His integrity will be resolved.
?
2013-01-22 04:22:49 UTC
God is most certainly omniscient. So in a causal sense, He is responsible for the existence of evil. Nonetheless, He is not morally responsible for evil. Only the agents who commit evil are.
disciple4christ43
2013-01-22 04:32:36 UTC
I would say God is all knowing and even though i with my finite mind and not understand all He does and as His creation i try not to question all He does, no one can have all the answers but one day i will know. But just because we do not understand what He is doing does not make it wrong after all He is the creator and has the right to do with His creation as he wants.
?
2013-01-22 04:31:53 UTC
Yes. God is All-knowing and All-powerful. And He knows what He is doing. It's just that man in his ignorance and lack of experience is as yet not capable of understanding His true nature and His divine plan.



So to His young innocent or ignorant children, He speaks in riddles. But to those who are ready now to grow up and learn more, He teaches more.



http://www.innerquest.org.ph/
2013-01-22 04:19:24 UTC
Christian Logic -

"God Knows all, therefore, he is responsible for Nothing".

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@Macadamia Daze - Due respect to you, what a load of crap. At least

@Steel Rain is honest.

@disciple - yup. That's what all whipped slaves say about their masters.
Mende J.
2013-01-22 04:49:12 UTC
He's responsible for the existence of evil and hell, also don't forget that he's responsible for good and heaven.

He made evil and good, and he gave you free will to choose and the strength to fight. So, he knows everything but he's not responsible of our actions because we have the power to change.



So, he knew that Satan will rebel and do evil, that why he created hell & heaven before the creation of satan him self;

Please notice that "satan" means "iblis" in this quote:



[Allah] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you to?" He [Iblis] replied, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and You created him from clay."



He [Allah] said, "Descend from Heaven. It is not for you to be arrogant in it. So get out! You are one of the abased."



He [Iblis] said, "Grant me a reprieve until the day they are raised up."



He [Allah] said, "You are one of the reprieved."



He [Iblis] said, "By Your misguidance of me, I will lie in ambush for them on your straight path."



[Iblis said,] "Then I will come at them, from in front of them and behind them, from their right and from their left. You will not find most of them thankful."



He [Allah] said, "Get out of it, reviled and driven out. As for those of them who follow you, I will fill up Hell with every one of you." (Surat al-A`raf, 11-18).



You can see that Allah said that he will fill up hell to Iblis without telling him what does "hell" means. Hence, Allah created the hell and the heaven before the rebelion of Satan.



I don't know about Christianity or what would christians say, I'm talking about Islam here.
2013-01-22 19:26:41 UTC
I was pointed here by this xian...

https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20130122190850AAE56zB



And they wonder why we point and larf at them ;)

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