is there a way to explain what and where this rapture thingi is without sounding like a silly person?

Question

I mean all the god people speak as if 'the rapture' is something real like a planet or an ice cream; who first thought of it? stuff like that, or did it just appear like an urban legand

Answer 1

Is that like the Earth is Flat Theory?



Rev MacOg of the Asatru

Answer 2

I don't think anyone has mentioned yet what Jesus said in Matthew 24:36-42. In talking about his future return he says:

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."

"In the twinkling of an eye," some are left and some are taken to be with the Lord. This is what most Christians define as the Rapture. When does it happen? No one knows. All the debates regarding "pre-Tribulation," "mid-Tribulation" are just debates. Jesus said, "No man knows, not even the Son." But he does warn his disciples to keep watch and be ready.

Answer 3

In Christian eschatology, the Rapture is the name given to a future event in which Jesus Christ will descend from Heaven, accompanied by the spirits of all the saints of God, both from the pre-incarnation period and after, who have passed on prior to this event, and then the bodily remains of these saints are transported from the Earth to meet the Lord and be rejoined with their corresponding spirits in the air. Immediately after this, all Christians alive on the earth are simultaneously transported to meet the Lord and those who have preceded them in the air. All are transformed into immortal bodies like Jesus' body, often referred to as the "resurrection body". This doctrine gained popularity in the 1830s, and more recently in the 1970s, with proponents of the premillenialist, and in particular the dispensationalist, interpretations of scripture. However, proponents of the doctrine have argued that it can be found in the early Church fathers and the New Testament.



There is much disagreement amongst rapture proponents over when the rapture will occur in relation to the Tribulation, a seven-year period preceding the second coming of Christ to the earth, or indeed, if the duration of the Tribulation will be seven years or only a 3 1/2 year period. Some understand the tribulation of Matthew 24 as having already taken place in 70 AD at the destruction of Jerusalem. (see Preterism). Three different views predominate. The first is that it will take place sometime prior to the Tribulation. The second is that it will take place mid-way through the Tribulation. The third is that it will take place after the Tribulation, when Christ comes to earth to establish his kingdom, the Kingdom of God, taking over rulership of the world for 1,000 years. (see Millennialism). A fourth view has recently developed, called the Pre-Wrath view.

Answer 4

It's a Biblical term. Although the Bible does not use the word "Rapture" - the doctrine is largly based on the Lord's Second Coming and passages like 1 Thessalonians 4:15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.

...and...

1 Corinthians 15: 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed - 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

Answer 5

It's in the Bible. Known as the second coming of the Lord. This is when Jesus will rapture (or take to heaven) all the believers on the earth. No one know when this will occur. There are signs though. However, anyone who claims to know when Jesus will return is lying because the Bible specifically says that no none knows the day nor the hour. Read the Bible to get all the info you will ever need. Especially the book of Revelations. I have no idea where other people are getting their info, but I can promise you they are WRONG. I am a christian and all of this is in the BIBLE. I hope you know the Lord my friend. If you drop dead right now where will go? and trust me, it's not just into the ground.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

Urban legend? Nah. Better than that, it was in a dream. A vision really. From God to Daniel. Many of the prophets in Old Testament times warned people of the coming judgment of Assyria or Babylon or other oppressors against the nation of Israel due to their sin. But many of those prophesies are thought to have a double meaning, warning of the coming judgment of God against man kind.

But the rapture is for the believers in Christ so that they won't have to undergo any of this judgment. When this happens (and no one will be able to say when it will be, only God knows) all the world will see that their is something that they can not explain.

Answer 8

John, a disciple of Jesus, was given a vision/dream from God that describes "The Rapture" as the time when Jesus is to return to Earth to bring back those who have already repented of their sins and served Him with all their hearts. At that time, their bodies will be immediately changed into an immortal body and they will return to Heaven with Jesus.



When Jesus was here on Earth, His disciples wanted to know when the particular time this event would take place. Jesus told them that no one knows the day or the hour but the Father (God).



Christianity is based on faith. We believe that the Bible is the Word of God and that we must have faith in what the Bible says is true. So as a Christian, I base my faith completely on what the Word of God says. Others may not share my beliefs. But for me and my household we will serve the Lord.

Answer 9

No. There isn't. The term "Rapture" first became popular in the United States toward the end of the 19th century through the teachings on premillennialism and dipensationalism by John Nelson Darby, an Irish evangelist. The rapture theory continued to grow in popularity among evangelicals largely due to a preacher named William Eugene Blackstone (1841-1935). His book, Jesus is Coming, sold more than one million copies.

Answer 10

no longer in effortless words does it sound stupid, even the Catholic Church admits it isn't a training of the early church fathers. the recent Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formula ‘one God in 3 persons’ changed into no longer solidly universal, actually no longer completely assimilated into Christian lifestyles and its career of religion, earlier to the suitable of the 4th century. even though it is exactly this formula that has first declare to the identify the Trinitarian dogma. between the Apostolic Fathers, there have been no longer something even remotely drawing close the kind of mentality or attitude.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299. a number of the "Church's" teachings stem from pagan religions, no longer the Bible. yet another situation it truly is stupid is repetitious prayers. are you able to imagine the way you'll experience if a chum of yours got here and advised you an identical tale a number of situations an afternoon. would not you imagine they'd some style of psychological sickness? And take this from the point of view of the only which prays. Does he imagine God is an imbecil and likes to take heed to an identical situation repeatedly? (Matthew 6:7, 8) yet at the same time as praying, do no longer say an identical issues over and yet back, in basic terms because the human beings of the international locations do, for they imagine they receives a listening to for his or her use of many words.  So, do no longer make yourselves like them, for God YOUR Father is conventional with what belongings you're wanting earlier ever YOU ask him.

Answer 11

Who first thought it up this modern version of "the rapture" was a 14 year old girl in Scotland in the 1850's during a bout with scarlett fever, some sort of high fever and she had a "vision".



A travelling preacher who had been kicked out his Church migrated to Canada and ran with the idea.



The modern concept of pre or mid tribulation has no basis in historical interpretation of the bible or history of belief until the late 1800's.



No there is no way to talk about without sounding stupid because well, it is stupid.



Historical interpretation is AFTER the world has ended all followers will go to heaven, and a second interpretation is an individual rapture when we die.

Answer 12

Ha no. Its in the bible. And don't tell me that you don't beleive in it or you won't be taken when the rapture comes. And that would be a sad thing.

The rapture is when God takes his people (the ones living for him) with him to heaven. And all of the other people (that live for anyother god. The devil) stay on this earth while its burning and all of these ugly things start to happen such as turmuls and things happen that i don't want to see because they are going to be so ugly. Such as the sun will be so hot that it will give you harsh coils. And hail the size of footballs will rain down. The moon will turn into blood. Its somthing that you will see out of an ugly movie becuase the people that make the movies get it out of the bible and turn it into a movie. But it will be worse because if your not saved you will be in it you won't be watching it you will be in it.

Answer 13

No man, it was told to one of the followers, that It would come like a thief in the night and you would not know it.People would disappear and their clothes and such would just be laying there. Some would go and some would not. If you were left behind, then you were to help every one left to be saved, when the end comes. It is written. Good night.

Answer 14

the rapture is an event told about in the bible. basically the bible tells of the time when jesus will come back, and all those who believe in him, and have accepted him as their lord and savior will return with him to heaven. The rapture refers to the event of those "saved" leaving with jesus. the bible says that it will happen very quickly. a common misconception is that people think that the bible says that the second coming of jesus is going to be soon, but what the scripture actually says is that jesus will come back swiftly. if you have any more questions about this or anything relating to it, or if i didn't answer your questions completely, you can email me. i will try my best to answer any questions that you have. i don't know if my email address is displayed, but it is [e-mail]

Answer 15

OMG! Great question! You know what...I'm in the same boat as you are my friend! I can't believe where people really get that from, but I might be proven wrong...I'm not a very religious person..but at the same time ...my common sense and logic works..and such a belief doesn't quite add up!!! Why would god want to make it hell for us..? Doesn't you want to save all human beings...and even teach them..even if they are not fully believing in him!?! That's my opinion! Good luck find your answer and I hope this helped you some! :))

Answer 16

If you read the Revelations chapter in the Bible it speaks of the messiah "Jesus" coming back but before that all the true believers of him go to heaven in the rapture, basically they just disappear no death or pain. then after seven years of pain and tribulation Jesus returns and defeats the anti-Christ. Read the chapter it is hard to understand but really cool. Also the left behind books are really good interpretations of it!

Answer 17

Nope

Answer 18

Nah it's a real thing that's gonna happen someday...SOMEDAY. It speaks of it in the Bible, in Revelations? But NO ONE knows when or how it's gonna happen, NO ONE at all.

Answer 19

Read thre Bible. Laugh if you must. You would not be alone. At least, not now.

Answer 20

Take a look and see



http://www.theisraelofgod.com/iograpture.htm

Answer 21

its a man from mars hes got a gun and he will shoot you dead and then your going to go out at night and eat up cars and then when there is no more cars you will go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet

Answer 22

i KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. I'm sure others will do their best

Answer 23

It would be alike wearisome and useless to enumerate even the more prominent applications made of the Apocalypse. Racial hatred and religious rancour have at all times found in its vision much suitable and gratifying matter. Such persons as Mohammed, the Pope, Napoleon, etc., have in turn been identified with the beast and the harlot. To the "reformers" particularly the Apocalypse was an inexhaustible quarry where to dig for invectives that they might hurl then against the Roman hierarchy. The seven hills of Rome, the scarlet robes of the cardinals, and the unfortunate abuses of the papal court made the application easy and tempting. Owing to the patient and strenuous research of scholars, the interpretation of the Apocalypse has been transferred to a field free from the odium theologicum. But then the meaning of the Seer is determined by the rules of common exegesis. Apart from the resurrection, the millennium, and the plagues preceding the final consummation, they see in his visions references to the leading events of his time. Their method of interpretation may be called historic as compared with the theological and political application of former ages. The key to the mysteries of the book they find in 17:8-14. For thus says the Seer: "Let here the mind that hath understanding give heed".



The beast from the sea that had received plenitude of power from the dragon, or Satan, is the Roman Empire, or rather, Caesar, its supreme representative. The token of the beast with which its servants are marked is the image of the emperor on the coins of the realm. This seems to be the obvious meaning of the passage, that all business transactions, all buying and selling were impossible to them that had not the mark of the beast (Apocalypse 13:17). Against this interpretation it is objected that the Jews at the time of Christ had no scruple in handling money on which the image of Caesar was stamped (Matthew 22:15-22). But it should be borne in mind that the horror of the Jews for the imperial images was principally due to the policy of Caligula. He confiscated several of their synagogues, changing them into heathen temples by placing his statue in them. He even sought to erect an image of himself in the Temple of Jerusalem .

The seven heads of the beast are seven emperors. Five of them the Seer says are fallen. They are Augustus Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, and Nero. The year of Nero's death is A.D. 68. The Seer goes on to say "One is", namely Vespasian, A.D. 70-79. He is the sixth emperor. The seventh, we are told by the Seer, "is not yet come. But when he comes his reign will be short". Titus is meant, who reigned but two years (79-81). The eighth emperor is Domitian (81-96). Of him the Seer has something very peculiar to say. He is identified with the beast. He is described as the one that "was and is not and shall come up out of the bottomless pit" (17:8). In verse 11 it is added: "And the beast which was and is not: the same also is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into destruction".



All this sounds like oracular language. But the clue to its solution is furnished by a popular belief largely spread at the time. The death of Nero had been witnessed by few. Chiefly in the East a notion had taken hold of the mind of the people that Nero was still alive. Gentiles, Jews, and Christians were under the illusion that he was hiding himself, and as was commonly thought, he had gone over to the Parthians, the most troublesome foes of the empire. From there they expected him to return at the head of a mighty army to avenge himself on his enemies. The existence of this fanciful belief is a well-attested historic fact. Tacitus speaks of it: "Achaia atque Asia falso exterrit velut Nero adventaret, vario super ejus exitu rumore eoque pluribus vivere eum fingentibus credentibusque" . So also Dio Chrysostomus: kai nyn (about A.D. 100) eti pantes epithymousi zen oi de pleistoi kai oiontai . Thus the contemporaries of the Seer believed Nero to be alive and expected his return. The Seer either shared their belief or utilized it for his own purpose.



Nero had made a name for himself by his cruelty and licentiousness. The Christians in particular had reason to dread him. Under him the first persecution took place. The second occurred under Domitian. But unlike the previous one, it was not confined to Italy, but spread throughout the provinces. Many Christians were put to death, many were banished . In this way the Seer was led to regard Domitian as a second Nero, "Nero redivivus". Hence he described him as "the one that was, that is not, and that is to return". Hence also he counts him as the eighth and at the same time makes him one of the preceding seven, the fifth, Nero. The identification of the two emperors suggested itself all the more readily since even pagan authors called Domitian a second Nero . The popular belief concerning Nero's death and return seems to be referred to also in the passage (13:3): "And I saw one of its heads as it were slain to death: and its death's wound was healed".



The ten horns are commonly explained as the vassal rulers under the supremacy of Rome. They are described as kings (basileis), here to be taken in a wider sense, that they are not real kings, but received power to rule with the beast. Their power, moreover, is but for one hour, signifying its short duration and instability (17:17). The Seer has marked the beast with the number 666. His purpose was that by this number people may know it. He that has understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and his number is six hundred and sixty-six. A human number, intelligible by the common rules of investigation. We have here an instance of Jewish gematria. Its object is to conceal a name by substituting for it a cipher of equal numerical value to the letters composing it. For a long time interpreters tried to decipher the number 666 by means of the Greek alphabet. Their efforts have yielded no satisfactory result. Better success has been obtained by using the Hebrew alphabet. Many scholars have come to the conclusion that Nero is meant. For when the name "Nero Caesar" is spelled with Hebrew letters, it yields the cipher 666.



The second beast, that from the land, the pseudoprophet whose office was to assist the beast from the sea, probably signifies the work of seduction carried on by apostate Christians. They endeavoured to make their fellow Christians adopt the heathen practices and submit themselves to the cultus of the Caesar. They are not unlikely the Nicolaitans of the seven Epistles. For they are there compared to Balaam and Jezabel seducing the Israelites to idolatry and fornication. The woman in travail is a personification of the synagogue or the church. Her first-born is Christ, her other seed is the community of the faithful.



In this interpretation, of which we have given a summary, there are two difficulties:





In the enumeration of the emperors three are passed over, Galba, Otho, and Vitellius. But this omission may be explained by the shortness of their reigns. Each one of the three reigned but a few months.

Tradition assigns the Apocalypse to the reign of Domitian. But according to the computation given above, the Seer himself assigns his work to the reign of Vespasian. For if this computation be correct, Vespasian is the emperor whom he designates as "the one that is". To this objection, however, it may be answered that it was the custom of apocalyptic writers, of Daniel, Enoch, and the Sibylline books, to cast their visions into the form of prophecies and give them the appearance of being the work of an earlier date. No literary fraud was thereby intended. It was merely a peculiar style of writing adopted as suiting their subject. The Seer of the Apocalypse follows this practice. Though actually banished to Patmos in the reign of Domitian, after the destruction of Jerusalem, he wrote as if he had been there and seen his visions in the reign of Vespasian when the temple perhaps yet existed.

We cannot conclude without mentioning the theory advanced by the German scholar Vischer. He holds the Apocalypse to have been originally a purely Jewish composition, and to have been changed into a Christian work by the insertion of those sections that deal with Christian subjects. From a doctrinal point of view, we think, it cannot be objected to. There are other instances where inspired writers have availed themselves of non-canonical literature. Intrinsically considered it is not improbable. The Apocalypse abounds in passages which bear no specific Christian character but, on the contrary, show a decidedly Jewish complexion. Yet on the whole the theory is but a conjecture.

Answer 24

Hmmmm..... How to discuss silly stuff without seeming silly.......

Answer 25

U needto get youself right with God. Do it now. Don't delay.



Scriptural basis

Supporters of the doctrine of the rapture generally cite the following primary sources[14] in the New Testament (the following are quoted from the NKJV):



"In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

(John 14:2–3)

"For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself."

(Philippians 3:20-21)

"And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?""

(1 Corinthians 15:49–55)

"For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord."

(1 Thessalonians 4:15–17)

"Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way."

(2 Thessalonians 2:1-7)



[edit] Views on the timing of the rapture

One of the tenets of the dispensationalist interpretation of Bible prophecy is that in the prophecy of 70 weeks from the book of Daniel (Daniel 9:27), between the 69th and 70th weeks there is a break, lasting an unspecified period of time. Thus, the 70th week of seven years has not yet occurred. This seven-year period will mark the end of the current dispensation, and is referred to as the Tribulation. There is considerable debate among Christians who believe in the rapture in regard to the timing of the rapture relative to the Tribulation. Most views hold that Christian believers will be either removed from, or protected from the judgment of God's wrath.





Comparison of Christian millennial interpretations

Pre-Tribulation

The Pre-Tribulation rapture is the view that the rapture will occur before the beginning of the Tribulation period. According to this view, the Christian Church that existed prior to that seven-year period has no vital role during the seven years of Tribulation, and will therefore be removed. Those people who accept Christ after the rapture will be martyred for their faith during the Tribulation.[citation needed] Saint John the Divine, which some believe is the apostle John, is seen in Revelation 4:1 as representing the Church caught up to Heaven. John hears the Trumpet and a voice that says, "Come up hither", and he is translated in the Spirit to Heaven and then sees what will happen for those left on earth. The Pre-Tribulation rapture is the most widely held position among American evangelical Christians.[documentation needed] It has become popular in recent years around the world and through the work of dispensational preachers such as Dr. J. Dwight Pentecost, Tim LaHaye, Dr. J. Vernon McGee, Chuck Smith, Dr. Chuck Missler, Jack Van Impe, and Dr. Grant Jeffrey. [15]





Imminent or not imminent?

Some who believe in a Pre-Tribulation rapture warn that the rapture is imminent, saying that all of the prophecies concerning the latter days have been fulfilled to the extent that the rapture could take place at any moment. Others suggest that certain requirements must first be met before a rapture can occur, such as these:



The nations of the world must unify their currency onto a universal standard.

There will be peace in Israel (Ezekiel 38).

There will be a one-world government, to correspond to the 7th beast of Revelation, prior to the Antichrist's 8th beast government.

The Jewish temple in Jerusalem must be rebuilt in its original place.

Observance of Old Testament commandments concerning animal sacrifices must be reinstated.

There will be a great falling away and the AntiChrist will be revealed. Thessalonians 2

Others state these events will happen after the rapture.





Mid-Tribulation

A minority view, with few proponents[citation needed] today, is that the rapture happens half-way through the seven-year Tribulation. This view is supported by the 7th chapter of Daniel, where it says the saints will be given over to tribulation for "time, times, and half a time" which is interpreted to mean 3.5 years. That is, half way through the seven years of the tribulation. At this juncture, the Antichrist commits the "abomination of desolation" by desecrating the Jerusalem temple (to be built on what is now called The Temple Mount.) [16]





Prewrath rapture

Main article: Prewrath

The prewrath rapture view is that the tribulation of the church begins toward the latter part of the seven-year period, being Daniel's 70th week, when the Antichrist is revealed in the temple. The great Tribulation, according to this view, is of the Antichrist against the church at this time. The duration of this tribulation is unknown, except that it begins and ends during the second half of Daniel's 70th week. References from Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 are used as evidence that this tribulation will be cut short by the coming of Christ to deliver the righteous by means of rapture, which will occur after the sixth seal is opened and the Sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood.[17] However, by this point many Christians will have been slaughtered as martyrs by the Antichrist. After the rapture comes God's seventh-seal wrath of trumpets and bowls (a.k.a. "the Day of the Lord"). [18] The Day of the Lord's wrath against the ungodly will follow for the remainder of the seven years. [19]





[edit] Post-Tribulation

The Post-Tribulation rapture (or "Post-Trib") view places the rapture at the end of the Tribulation period, based on passages such as 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, seen as quoting the words of "the Lord" as indicated in Matthew 24:29-31 (see table below). From this perspective, Christian believers will be on the earth as witnesses to Christ during the entire seven years, until the last day of the tribulation period.



Post-Tribulation advocates find no scriptural support for the so-called "Yo-Yo Theory", which they describe as the first-Second Coming of Christ in the clouds for the rapture and then coming back again for a second-Second Coming (sometimes called the Second Coming in two parts or the Second and Third Coming).[20]



The Post-Tribulation view brings Christ's "appearing" and his "coming" together in one all-encompassing, grand event. Matthew 24:29–31; "Immediately after the tribulation of those days…they shall gather together his elect…", is cited as a foundational scripture for this view. Pat Robertson describes the end times this way in his 1995 novel The End of the Age. Another supporting scripture is John 17:15-16, where Jesus prays that the Father not take his (Jesus') disciples from the earth, but that he (the Father) would nevertheless "keep them from the evil one." This is taken to preclude a Pre-Trib or a Mid-Trib rapture to heaven at any time. [21] Prominent authors supporting this view are Walter Ralston Martin, John Piper, George Eldon Ladd, Robert H. Gundry, and Douglas Moo.



Matthew 24:29-31 ASV 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 ASV

Matthew 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; 17 then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.