Question:
creationists, can you see the error in my logic?
just curious (A.A.A.A.)
2008-11-18 10:54:27 UTC
i will not deny the existence of the flying spagetti monster until he speaks to me and tells me that he does not exist.
Thirteen answers:
anonymous
2008-11-18 10:58:08 UTC
I think a lot of people can relate to that logic
Old Timer Too
2008-11-18 19:00:58 UTC
Yup. First you are talking about some sort of beginning. The earth and solar system is only about 4.5 (or so, depending upon the findings and conclusions of various scientific minds) billion years old.



What brought it into existence?



Something did, whether is was a god using the forces of nature, or nature, all by its little old lonesome, or some cataclysmic event.



I happen to be a creationist, that is to say that I happen to believe that somewhere in time, probably about 4.5 (or so) billion years ago, some event took place that resulted in the solar system.



As to the flying spaghetti monster, well, I know its origin a lot better than I know the origin of the earth. It is real . . . in its purpose. But physically? Uh-uh.



The earth exists. Fact -- we live on it. It got started somewhere and the universe surrounding us is a lot older, based upon a number of factors.
raisemeup
2008-11-20 21:07:54 UTC
The error in your logic is that God has already spoken to people and so we know He exists. Your belief in the fsm is equivalent to your belief in evolution – both are religiously held beliefs based upon zero evidence. If you pray to God with a repentant and sincere heart, He will reveal himself to you. I doubt you’ll get the same response from the fsm or the god of nature on which evolution is based.
cooky54
2008-11-18 20:53:56 UTC
Straw man



The term is derived from the practice in ages past of using human-shaped straw dummies in combat training. In such training, a scarecrow is made in the image of the enemy, sometimes dressed in an enemy uniform or decorated in some way to vaguely resemble them. A trainee then attacks the dummy with a weapon such as a sword, club, bow or musket. Such a target is, naturally, immobile and does not fight back, and is therefore not a realistic test of skill compared to a live and armed opponent. It is occasionally called a straw dog fallacy, scarecrow argument, or wooden dummy argument.[citation needed] In the UK, it is sometimes called Aunt Sally, with reference to a traditional fairground game.
interested1208
2008-11-18 19:06:53 UTC
Your logic is great, but sounds vaguely familiar....





8^}



Traveler: So you saying that if it can be shown in writing that the FSM sent his pasta to save you, you'll believe?
anonymous
2008-11-18 19:03:54 UTC
Flying Spaghetti Monster is my co-pilot.
Traveler
2008-11-18 19:00:11 UTC
When a man comes and claims that he is a son of FSM and dies on the cross for it and because of his message and sacrifice, a thousands of followers also dies for the message, then I'll consider his existence to be plausible. Until then, don't make this straw man again.



Of course, your stupid fatally flawed logic with FSM.
dewcoons
2008-11-18 18:57:39 UTC
Yes I do. Good thing there is no creationist arguement based around such an idea.
WAKMOM
2008-11-18 18:59:54 UTC
He exists, and we see his Handy work everyday. When I put my little girl into bed at night, or look at the stars, I thank God for all that he has given me.

God bless.
anonymous
2008-11-18 19:00:15 UTC
Nope. your logic seams ironclad to me.



RAmen
Amber
2008-11-18 18:57:26 UTC
Creationist and logic do not belong together in the same sentence unless "do not have" is in-between them.
Maxi T
2008-11-18 18:57:15 UTC
the flying spaghetti monster is a false deity

God is real
anonymous
2008-11-18 18:58:05 UTC
yes cuz hes fake.....the Trinity isnt...seek to find Him...it takes effort...how many hrs have you spent praying???


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