Question:
What happens to a dinosaur when it dies? Were all the fossils in The Morrison formation covered with mud?
wolsk
2010-12-12 06:15:36 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dinosaurs/formations

Some people would have you believe that dinosaur fossils are rare but the ref list shows that there are dinosaur fossil formations on every continent all over the world; North America – 30, South America – 11, Europe – 11, Asia – 24, Africa – 8, Australia – 3 and Antartica – 2. I have spent a great time researching The Morrison Formation and have found that it covers an area which is 600,000 square miles that extends over 10 states in The United States and over 2 Canadian provinces. The dinosaurs fossils are all found on one level just below the surface of the ground and include a wide variety; trilobytes, Allosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, etc.
Nine answers:
Matthew
2010-12-12 06:18:17 UTC
The dinosaurs were wiped out by the global flood.
The Canadian Atheist
2010-12-12 14:22:51 UTC
"I have spent a great time researching The Morrison Formation and have found that it covers an area which is 600,000 square miles that extends over 10 states in The United States and over 2 Canadian provinces. The dinosaurs fossils are all found on one level just below the surface of the ground and include a wide variety"



You claim to have spent a "great time" I'm assuming you meant a 'great deal of time' researching, yet you totally missed even the basics, and for some bizarre reason, think that these fossils are found on "one level just below the surface". Nothing and I say NOTHING could be further from the truth.

If your only source for information is Wikipedia, then I guess that explains it.

Do some REAL research, then come back and apologize for your ignorance. Deal?
skeptik
2010-12-12 14:25:13 UTC
I doubt you have spent a "great time" researching anything if you think "trilobytes" were dinosaurs.



Also, if you had actually researched the Morrison formation at all, you would know that it contains only fossils from the late Jurassic. And that most of it is nowhere close to "just below the surface."



It also doesn't contain any trilobite fossils.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleobiota_of_the_Morrison_Formation
2010-12-12 14:21:16 UTC
Actually, dinosaur fossils are quite rare, considering the millions upon millions of dinosaurs that have existed, compared to the few amount of fossils recovered. Conditions have to be just right at the death of the dino before fossilization can take place. The majority of dinos that died were eaten or simply decomposed and never given a chance to fossilize.





And "all the dinos were killed in the global flood" is beyond ignorant. Where are the millions upon millions of dino AND human fossils TOGETHER that would have perished TOGETHER under one layer of mud TOGETHER? Nowhere. Why? Because it didn't happen.
Lighting the Way to Reality
2010-12-12 21:08:40 UTC
Your time spent researching the Morrison Formation must not have amounted to diddly squat.



Here is a description of the Morrison Formation.



"The Morrison Formation is a distinctive sequence of Late Jurassic sedimentary rock that is found in the western United States..."



"It covers an area of 1.5 million square km (600,000 square miles), although only a tiny fraction is exposed and accessible to geologists and paleontologists. Over 75% is still buried under the prairie to the east and much of the rest was destroyed by erosion as the Rocky Mountains rose to the west."



"According to radiometric dating, the Morrison Formation dates from 156.3 ± 2 million years old (Ma) at its base,[2] to 146.8 ± 1 million years old at the top.."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison_Formation



Trilobites disappeared in the mass extinction at the end of the Permian about 250 million years ago, so they were extinct for about 100 million years when the Morrison Formation was laid down.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobite



And the only dinosaur fossil that you mentioned that was found in the Morrison Formation is that of the allosaurus. All of the tyrannosaurus genera lived near the end of the Cretaceous Period several tens of millions of years after the Morrison Formation was laid down.



So your research didn't amount to diddly squat.



Only about one thousandth of one percent of the dinosaurs that ever lived were buried sufficiently soon after their death to be preserved as fossils. But since there were billions of dinosaurs that lived over a period of 150 million years, that still comes out to quite a few fossils.



In the first place, if it had occurred, the biblical flood would not have left all of the different kinds of layered strata, many of which are interwoven with entirely different methods of deposition, not all of them water related.



Furthermore, if the biblical flood had occurred, you would find fossils of the approximately 5,000 present-day species of mammals, including humans, and of the approximately 10,000 present-day species of birds, mixed in with the fossils of, for example, dinosaurs. You do not and will never find such a mixture. That is because they are separated in time by more than 60 million years and the fossil record reflects that fact. The only fossils of mammals and birds that are found in the same strata as dinosaurs are early types quite unlike anything that exists today (even if you consider the "kinds" that creationists refer to as the source of present-day mammals and birds). And you will also not find those fossils of present-day mammals and birds in the same strata with trilobites, or of numerous other early types of animals.



In the Cambrian strata, which was laid down long before the time of the dinosaurs, you will find the initial appearance of most of the phyla, but they will be only very primitive species--none of which exist today--belonging to those phyla. You will not find one single amphibian, reptile, dinosaur, bird, mammal, or teleost fish.



And that scenario even continues after the demise of the dinosaurs. As you progress through the strata you will find new forms, but still nothing like what you would find today until you get to relatively young strata. There are numerous strata which show that mammals became predominate for several tens of millions of years on up to today. But the strata that was laid down during the first half of that time contains a large number of fossils of mammals quite unlike anything that exists today, and again, none of the fossils are of present-day mammals, including humans, and present-day birds. As those strata get progressively younger, you begin to see more and more fossils of mammals and birds that are similar to the present-day species. That includes hominid fossils, which are present only in the strata laid down in the past few million years. Hominid fossils are totally absent in the vast number of earlier fossil-containing strata.



Note the appearance of types of organisms over time in these tables:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_time_scale#Table_of_geologic_time



Thus, if you look at the geological strata, you will find a changing representation of species through the oldest to the youngest strata, and those changes reflect an evolutionary process. That is not what you would find if the fossil record had been laid down by a flood such as that described in the Bible. But it is what would be expected in an evolutionary scenario.



Added:

And @Bloodhound presents a bunch of statements that have absolutely no basis whatsoever in reality.
Bloodhound
2010-12-12 14:21:43 UTC
I agree with Matthew.



Noah and his wife and their three sons and their wives are the ancestors of everyone who is alive today. Everyone on the earth was wiped out except for those 8 people and they spread out all over the earth after the Tower of Babel incident. All the people of this earth contain the genes from Noah and his wife and about 250 cultures tell the story of the flood. For example, when missionaries went to China the Chinese already knew the story.



It sounds like you don't believe this and that was foretold, that people would be willfully ignorant of The Flood in the last days.



2 Peter 3:5-6 (King James Version)



5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:



6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:





But look at the proof;



First, all the layers in the earth below us have been formed in layers of sediment which were lain down in one event.



Second, when they Carbon date the fossils in these layers (even the dinosaurs) they find that they lived in the past 6,000 years and not 65 million years ago.



Third, if you check out RAO (Recent African Origin) on Yahoo you will see that scientists have concluded that all humans who are alive today can trace their ancestry back to one man and one woman who lived in an area where we believe the ark landed.



Fourth, it's the only way to explain how all the fossils became fossils. If you examine The Morrison formation on Yahoo you will find that there are 600,000 square miles of dinosaurs that were drowned and buried there and we have these types of areas on every continent all over the world.
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2010-12-12 14:25:54 UTC
Very nice. Now please present your Religion and Spirituality question. Or any question at all, really.



What is it with you people that makes you think studying someone else's research which they've simplified and put on the internet means you're the one doing the research? Research =/= reading wikipedia. It doesn't even mean reading peer reviewed papers.
2010-12-12 14:20:02 UTC
Matthew, I seriously cannot believe that your parents let you access the Internet. You could get raped out here. Then again, you get raped in church on a weekly basis.



It's a well-known fact that when a person or animal dies, its body decomposes. Dinosaurs are no exception.
Adam
2010-12-12 14:25:23 UTC
Honestly , I dont care about it


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