Question:
Why did a Christian tell me to burn my Book of Mormom?
2007-07-06 22:37:10 UTC
He keep on saying how its fake and false that it comes from scriptures. These Mormon guys(missionaries) have been coming to my house and they left me the book, so far i had two lessons with them, they are coming tomorrow, they are really nice people, and i enjoy learning about it. I just read the chapter about faith from Alma, they left me that chapter to read. It is awesome, i felt so good and relief after i read it, since i'm gay..... Anywho i won't burn the book, i will continue to learn and i still haven't told them i'm gay. I'll ignore you if you talk smack.
32 answers:
MumOf5
2007-07-08 20:03:28 UTC
Hi Erik. Thanks for inviting me to answer your question. :-)



It is sad that people take a good thing (like faith in Jesus Christ) and turn it into a reason to close their minds to everything else. A common belief in modern Christians is that there is no truth other than what is in the Bible. It's seems silly to me that on the one hand a Christian can say, "All you have to do accept Jesus as your Saviour and then you're saved," and then condemn all members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.



The Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus Christ... it is what led me to have faith in Him. It is what led me to believe that Jesus could save me from my sins. There is no logical consistency in the idea that a heartfelt, sincere Mormon/LDS is an exception to the saving grace of Jesus Christ.



I have an idea that many people do not want to accept the Book of Mormon because in so doing they may have to accept some faults within themselves, and will feel the need to make an effort towards personal change.



I, too, absolutely love the book of Alma. My favourite chapters in the BOM are Alma 5 and Alma 32 (and my favourite verse is 1 Nephi 3:7). They have inspired me to keep faith in Jesus Christ for many years, when times got tough. A good seed will always bring forth good fruit (if you don't forget to nourish it) and that good seed certainly has brought forth abundant good fruit in my life.



God bless you, bro. Thanks once again for inviting me to respond.



Love MumOf4
odd duck
2007-07-07 08:49:05 UTC
A lot of Christians think that if it didn't come from the bible, it can't be the word of God. They use the scripture in Revelation that says you can't add to the book. They say that we have added to the bible, but as you have read, it isn't even the same book!



They say we aren't Christians because of our beliefs, but yet, they won't take time to learn about what we really believe. They decide to pick and choose what they hear, and use it to make us look bad instead of seeing what is good in not just our religion, but any other that isn't exactly the same as theirs.



I'm sure most of them have been told that our church is the work of the devil because we don't believe "X" doctrine. We can't possibly be true if we don't teach this one thing! Or that our doctrines aren't biblical. Yet, they refuse to learn anything about it to see if it's really biblical.



I'm not bashing them, or trying to make other religions mad, but the truth is that most of us are very closed minded to other religions. I'm like that sometimes, but I try not to be.



You do what you feel right about, and don't let others tell you what is right and what is wrong. You have to figure that out for yourself! Any religion you pick will be the one that you find the most truth in. That's what is most important. Enjoy the journey, and learn all you can along the way!!
Brother G
2007-07-07 12:59:30 UTC
Ignore The wackos...they are just bigots.

Yes you should tell the missionaries that you are gay..

Since like some other posters said here Most religions including the Mormons don't believe Homosexuality can be reconciled with our Heavenly Father's plan.

Muslim would stone you, Jews in the old testament times would have stoned you too and christianity has forbidden homosexuals in the church. So if you do want to be a mormon, you would have to have a complete change of lifestyle...not just tobacco, alcohol and hot drinks...if you ever used any of those but your sexuality as well.
2007-07-08 15:24:25 UTC
Dont forget to tell them you are gay. Mormons are the kindest , most accepting and loving people of all the religions. I am sure the mishies will want gi give you a great big hug. The President of the Twelve apostles , Boyd Packer, just gave an inspiring talk on the many wonderful gay people throughout Mormondom, and the mighty impact they have had in his life.
christie
2007-07-06 22:44:55 UTC
what I wish everyone understood is that we are all trying to figure life out. I don't care what kind of wisdom you say you have - even believers are trying to figure life out. If the book of Mormon helps you have a better understanding of God -fine. I think we'll all be suprised when we die about what goes on in the afterlife. The fact is - even mormons don't agree with homosexuality and will try to talk you out of it. I don't have a stand on it as a personal issue although I believe it is a sin. If you continue to seek to understand and know God then you will and that's the simplicity of it. It has nothing to do with the greatest of human rational - it is a personal walk that each individual must take. Trust though - that even the person telling you all the hooplah about mormons or any other denomination of faith is probably acting out of concern based on their limited understanding.
moonman
2007-07-07 22:56:21 UTC
He is probably afraid because it is different. Most people fear the unknown and assume the opinion of those around them or the opinion they expect people to hold. After reading the Book of Mormon several times, I have no clue why anyone would suggest to burn it. It teaches nothing more than the gospel of Christ. It teaches charity, hard work, faith, repentance, baptism as well as all other Christ like attributes. Furthermore, I have prayed and received a witness of its truth.



To skeptics it may be offensive, because it boldly declares the gospel of Christ and teaches that you must put forth work before you will receive a knowledge. This faith is how God works; however, those who are skeptics who are unwilling to put forth effort before receiving a witness are offended by such a concept. Yet anyone who is willing to put forth the small bit of effort will receive a witness of the gospel of Christ and the Book of Mormon through the happiness and peace that comes as they pray about it.
Yoda's Duck
2007-07-07 16:58:39 UTC
Matthew 5:10-- Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.



So many religions have been "bashed" through the ages... If you think about it,...



Why did the Jewish leaders want Jesus dead?... His teachings threatened their status and power base.



Why did the Missouri mobs kill Joseph Smith and his brother?... His teachings threatened the status quo.



Why did the Romans try to kill off all the Christians?... Their beliefs and lifestyle were threatening their gods' status and the whole Roman way of life.



Why did the Spanish Inquisition even happen?... The king was afraid the Jewish converts weren't sincere... It was about controlling people's thoughts.... again.









Fear and doubt are pretty powerful motivators to destroy that which frightens us...



Yes, Mormonism teaches against homosexuality, I won't argue that. At the same time, burning one copy of the Book of Mormon won't change a whole lot of anything. God is the source of all truth... Ask Him what to do with the book.







One last thought... A story from my mission--



We were teaching a man who was a self-proclaimed doubter. He wasn't a naturally faith-filled person. He was well-read, having read the Bible, as well as writings from many bible scholars, archaeological findings, etc.



At one point in one of our discussions, he was bothered by the fact that we were so very confident in our beliefs, which he felt were contradicting what scholars had "found"... He asked my companion, "What- do you think you're smarter than all the bible scholars?"...



Her response was so wonderful!... "Yes, I do, because I have the gift of the Holy Ghost. He is with me 24/7, to guide me and teach me truth, straight from God- the source of all truth."



Moral- Learn how the Holy Ghost "speaks" to you, and follow it. As I've said before, when God speaks and man obeys, that man is NEVER wrong!
rndyh77
2007-07-06 22:43:07 UTC
I think you need to pray about it and not listen to what somebody else thinks. Why do they think they are so smart or are more capable of discering good from evil than you are?



The answer is they aren't and we all have to make our own choices in this life. Instead of your friend telling you what's wrong with the Mormon Church, he should be telling you what's right about his. He probably can't, but you should give him the chance.



You should always go to the source of what you want to learn about though. Don't get it from a second hand source. If you want to learn about Mormonism, talk to Mormon missionaries. If you want to learn about Catholicism, talk to a Catholic.
Liesel
2007-07-06 23:19:59 UTC
First off, be honest, tell them you're gay. Second of all, don't burn the Book of Mormon. I have read it many times, and although I fell for it at first, I saw through it, but only you can make up your mind on weather or not you believe in something; not those telling you to burn it.
Carolyn T
2007-07-06 22:43:46 UTC
Many Christians haven't read the Book of Mormon but insist on telling the rest of us what's in there! Don't worry about what men tell you to do. Ask God what he would have you do. And I'm fairly certain you will get the same answer I did! Read on Brother!

Read on!!!
Jesus Is My Hero
2007-07-07 00:13:11 UTC
Jesus said it best when He was suffering on the Cross of Calvary..."forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."



It's pretty simple, really. People are quicker to judge than they are to breath. Burn the Book Of Mormon? Why? What would that solve? I think most would believe that The Bible is the inspired word of God...a compilation of books put together through the inspiration of God to His prophets. All books were written through the divine power of the Holy Ghost.



It looks like the REAL question here is this - was the Book Of Mormon written through the divine power of God through the Holy Ghost? Was Joseph Smith REALLY chosen as a prophet of God who was directed by numerous Heavenly messengers to locate and translate the plates of extra Scripture?



Well, many will say "no"...some will say "I'm not sure" and a few will say "yes." Keep in mind that people are quick to judge and find fault in other people's beliefs. I say, do as Joseph Smith did...ask God yourself. I think James 1:5-6 gives the best advice..."if any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed."



Do those things and your Father In Heaven will give you opportunities for your questions to be answered.
2007-07-06 22:43:42 UTC
Who cares if you are gay? The whole thing about being gay is that you don't act on those urges. Unless you are legally married under the laws of God (man and woman) then sex is forbidden.



Continue to read the Book of Mormon. There are wonderful stories in there of how people's faith helped them through very difficult times. And also how people's lack of faith helped to destroy them. Keep reading and praying for guidance. Your Heavenly Father loves you regardless of who or what you are. He hears and answers ALL sincere prayers.
Ender
2007-07-07 11:29:35 UTC
You mention that you "felt so good". that is how the Spirit of the Lord manifests his truth to us. Keep watching for those feelings.



There are a lot of Mormon haters on here. Pay attention to what you think, what you feel, and the answers that the Lord reveals to you.



You will face resistance as you move forward down this path. There are powers that don't want you to find the truth.
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2016-09-05 21:44:27 UTC
Minor correction for your time line. It used to be approximately the tip of the 4th century, as soon as christianity grew to become the "legitimate" faith of the Roman Empire that the guide-burning orgy occurred. The "christians" felt that every one knowledge used to be within the bible and all different writings had been evil. The Nazis believed in Aryan purity and that every one books by means of non-Aryan writers had been as a result evil. Same precept, burn any guide that doesn't accept as true with your ideology. They each additionally destroyed plenty of artwork and tune as good for the equal explanations. As recounted, guide-burning remains to be performed within the US, the Middle East, and frequently different areas we do not listen approximately. Blessings to your Journey!
scorn66713
2007-07-06 22:50:26 UTC
The same reason they burned the Gnostic texts, Greek Philosopy and anything else that might make them think for themselves and go to God directly without permision, intersession or the blessing of somone who controls your view of God to proffit themselves and their class is not a very good way to feel about your place in Nature.



Some people like to be sheep others rams.
MissWong
2007-07-06 22:51:15 UTC
Christians live in constant fear of the devil. They are told that EVERYTHING they don't see in the bible or hear about in church is evil and the work of satan. Sad isn't it?



Frankly I think Mormons are even more whack than christians but hey if it works for you . . . . who am I to say anything!
jehu_messenjah
2007-07-06 22:41:53 UTC
Some people do not learn that the Journey is what fosters the Relationship with god. many want to intercede and tell you what to interpret and how to interpret...but God uses everything to communicate. If you want to keep the book keep it, and tell you friend that you unconditionally love them and keep in mind that just because people are nice that they can tell you how you are to manage your journey.



It is your journey, and only you can make it!





ORDO ab CHAO
melissa m
2007-07-06 22:42:42 UTC
mormans rock!!!! Im a christian and i think you finding a religion that sutes you is great! Everyone should have a faith and if this track works for you then dont listen to the crazy christian. Do i think the morman book is right...not really but i dont have a problem with the people or their belifes. Ussualy morman teenagers are the best friends to have cause they dont party...well the dont do drugs or drink (if they are true mormans)
mormon_4_jesus
2007-07-07 04:21:21 UTC
They want you to burn it because they are afraid you will believe it. There is nothing about the devil in it. It's the Church of JESUS CHRIST.



BTW, although there are gays in our church, anyone who isn't married to someone of the opposite sex is expected to remain celebate. Just thought I'd throw that out.
doppler
2007-07-06 22:43:46 UTC
Jesus warned that in the end times people will forgo sound doctrine in favor of teaching that tickles their ears and pleases them.



The truth is in the bible. Mormons are not Christians and you cannot be saved by following their teachings. If you're concerned for your soul, read the bible. If you just want to feel better about yourself, well that's your right.



I'm not trying to talk smack. I sincerely believe Joseph Smith was a false prophet, and that your eternal destiny is in danger.



Repent of your sins and place your trust in Jesus Christ as the only source of righteousness. Pray for forgiveness in his name. That's the only way to be saved. Mormons teach salvation through works... that is you EARN it, but the bible says that's impossible. The bible is God's word. The Book of Mormon is all lies dressed up to look like Christianity.
Odindmar
2007-07-06 22:42:02 UTC
Fanaticism.



Some people are so prideful of their own religion that they are sure it must be the only way. Everything else is " Satan's work"



If you like the book, then read it. Just understand how salvation works. Practice it. and you'll be fine.



best wishes.
Julius C
2007-07-06 22:41:48 UTC
The various cult sects of Christianity are damn territorial, the Christian sees money that should go into his tax exempt church heading toward the Mormon cults coffers, have the cult members duke it out, and then join the survivor, make it a Mad Max thing, you know, throw in chain saws and **** like that.
2007-07-06 22:43:53 UTC
Ask them if their God creates spirit babies the same way that we create babies, and there is a baby born every second, how does God find time to do anything else. If you are joining because you think Christians are anti-gay, ask them why they think black people are cursed. Why if they accept black blood, they will not go to heaven. Why God sends his spirit babies into little black babies, if they are destined to hell. Jesus loves black people and gay people, he just doesnt like that gay people are sinning. You need to change your ways and accept Jesus, not find a religion that accepts your way of life.
speedy
2007-07-06 22:40:55 UTC
Really what you should do is follow your heart. If you feel good when, and after you read it then continue. Good comes from good, not from something that is false. Paper on its own can't make you feel good, but Heavenly truths can.
Gary S
2007-07-06 22:53:23 UTC
I have read the book of mormon, I am a Christian. I say keep the book, study it, and you will find more contradictions than you can count.
Straighttalk
2007-07-06 22:41:41 UTC
Just try Quran too has all the answers for Jesus peace be upon him. If you want to read.
dbzgalaxy
2007-07-06 22:43:55 UTC
false prophet comes to mind.



Leaders of THAT church taking other peoples wives as THEIR own "secret " wives...

J.S found the "tablet" in a hole in the woods, and NO ONE else saw it in tact...



J.S. was arrested as a youth for thievery and trickery, etc...



Once you cross the line and attend a spirit filled church, your heart will PREPARE for the WORD of God and His promises. This is the point where it all starts to make sense. THEN the opposition will step up his plan and try to keep you from "knowing" God... he does this by re-introducing doubt... but as we pray for "truth" and Gods wisdom, our hearts "KNOW" what to do.



I hope this helps you to understand "us" more.

!!!!!!Plus remember, all of the Christians here at topix and around the world come from different backgrounds , incomes, and enviornments...YET! WE ALL AGREE THIS INFO IS TRUE! WOW!

How often do diverse groups AGREE on AnYtHinG??? Proof dear one. THIS is YOUR proof.~~~~ Love, Deb~
2007-07-06 22:40:40 UTC
Just ignore the Christian guy, he can't accept that other people have different beliefs. If he keeps telling you that tell him to shove it up his ***...
Your Highness
2007-07-06 22:39:46 UTC
He told you to burn it because he's close minded and ignorant.
2007-07-06 22:39:45 UTC
Because it is not the Bible.
Prophet John of the Omega
2007-07-06 22:50:19 UTC
The Mormons like Protestant, Catholics, Anglican, etc belong to the one Christian faith and one body. Thus, as a CHRISTIAN I BELONG NOT TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH NOR THE BAPTIST NOR TO THE MORMON NOR TO THE PROTESTANT, ETC because I belong to all of them as I AM A CHRISTIAN IN THE SPIRIT where there is a unity of the faith with ONE GOD, ONE LORD, ONE BAPTISM, ONE SPIRIT, ONE BODY OF CHRISTIANITY. But these churches can be by one's heart act as an administrative churches for baptism, wedding, burial ceremonies, socializations, church services, etc. Evenso, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST said The time is now that you will worship GOD in the spirit and in truth. Why is it so? Pls read on and see how the Mormon church fit into the one body of Christainity - thus, each religion/ churches claim that they are the true church. Thus, in embracing Chrisitanity, Satan;s strategy is divide and conquer. Remember that Satan is the real ruler of this word and rules the world by deceptions. Evenso, the churches are deeply divided and each claim to be the true church against the others. But everyone of these churches are a part of the true church as all belong to the one body of Christianity or the Christian religion. In Rev 1:10 and Rev 1:20 THE LORD GOD is holding the seven churches.They were the seven churches in Asia MInor (now Turkey) put up by the apostles of the LORD JESUS CHRIST after 4BC that is after HE ascended to heaven. The seven churches being in the hand of GOD show that all these seven churches are united and are one in the hand of GOD. 1ST is the Ephesus Church, now the hebrew oriented churches under the laws, tithes, sabbaths, etc. These churches are the Jehovah witnesses, Sabbatistas, 7th day adventists and they worship GOD as FATHER- ABBA. This relationship is between the FATHER AND THE PRODIGAL CHILDREN as they put themselves under the law yet cannot follow the laws. They are the right hand and the legs of the christian body. They declare that GOD is the TREE OF LIFE which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. This churches are imperfect as they are loveless as their faith is based on laws and not in their hearts. The 2nd is the Smyrna church now the Mormons. They worship GOD as THE LAMB OF GOD. They are the life of the body. This relationship is between the MEEK GOD called THE LAMB OF GOD and the meek men called the Saints. They declare that GOD is the CROWN OF LIFE which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. GOD'S comment is that this church is NOT COURAGEOUS and as such is imperfect church. It is so as they are cowering in fear in the Cities and as Saints they should look for martyrdom so that their blood spilled to the ground will give birth to christian churches. This church is under the LAW. The 3rd is pergamus church now the born again and fundamentalist. They are the mouth of the christian body. They worship GOD as the MAN-GOD -LORD JESUS CHRIST. This relationship is between the MAN-GOD AND MEN to prove that THE LORD JESUS CHRIST was a historical man. GOD' S comment is that these churches are imperfect as they are backsliders as they say and they do not do. They declare that GOD is THE TRUE BREAD FROM HEAVEN AND THE ROCK OF SALVATION which is the title of THELORD JESUS CHRIST. These churches are under the dispensation of GRACE. The 4th is the thyatira church now the Protestant and anglican churches. They are the eyes and feet of the Christian body. They worship GOD as THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS which is one of the titles of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. This relationship is between the POWERFUL GOD and the powerful men. They are the eyes and feet of the christian body. GOD'S comment is that these churches are imperfect as they are corrupt.

They declare that GOD is the SOLE ONE WITH POWER AND GLORY which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. These churches are under the dispensation of GRACE not under the LAW. The 5th is the Sardis church now the scholars, scientology, science churches.'They are the head and mind of the Christian body. They worship GOD who is the ALFA AND THE OMEGA which is one of the titles of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. This relationship is between the HIGHEST AMONG THE PROPHETS and the prophets. GOD'S comment is that this church is dead and thus, is imperfect. It is so as they claimed that their wisdom are from themselves though GOD is the ONE that gives them that wisdom and knowledge and thus, they are dead to GOD. They declare that GOD is THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK OF LIFE which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. These churches are under the dispensation of GRACE not under the law. The 6th is the Philadelphia now the miracle workers-MIRACLE CRUSADERS. They are the heart of the body. They worship GOD as the BRIDEGROOM which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST; and HIS relationship is loving faithfully HIS wife as a bride eternally. This church is perfect as the love of GOD makes them perfect. They declare that GOD is the AUTHOR OF OUR FAITH IN GOD which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. These churches are under the dispensation of GRACE not under the LAW. The 7th is the laodicia now the Catholics, Ecumenical Church and the Eastern othodox church. They worship GOD IN THE SPIRIT called EMMANUEL which is one of the titles of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, as they are also the majority parts of the Christian body and thus, are everywhere. GOD's comment is that these churches are lukewarm and thus, is imperfect. This is so as the majority parts of the human body is lukewarm in temperature and at 37 degrees centigrade a body has a fever and lower than that a body is dead. They declare that GOD is the HOST OF THE LORD'S SUPPER which is a title of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. All these seven churches are imperfect churches except the Philadelphia church made perfect by THE LOVE OF GOD. Today, they are divisive because of Satan's deception of divide and conquer. Physically today, they are the seven churches on Earth. In 4BC, they were the seven churches in Asia. But In the HAND OF GOD thus, being perfect, they are the seven churches in the spirit. In the coming reign of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, they will be called THE SEVEN CHURCHES OF GOD AND OF CHRIST in the universal church. Additionally, the GOD worshipped by these seven churches are all the titles of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST such as ABBA-EVERLASTING FATHER; THE LAMB OF GOD; THE WORD OF GOD; THE KING OF KINGS; THE ALFA AND THE OMEGA; THE BRIDEGROOM AND EMMANUEL. Thus, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST wears many crowns. Moreover, these seven churches in the spirit held by THE HAND OF THE LORD is the symbol of the UNITY OF THE FAITH. And at John 17:23 THE LORD JESUS CHRIST prayed for the UNITY OF THE FAITH saying FATHER whom YOU have given ME that they maybe made perfect as WE ARE ONE. Likewise, one of the hidden titles of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST is HE breaches the walls of division and walls of hostility among the deceived believers. St John's SEVEN CHURCHES IN ASIA has passed the baton of earthly leadership to these SEVEN CHURCHES ON EARTH (the imperfect churches-except Phila church) and that St John has passed the baton of spiritual leadership to your humble service-PROPHET JOHN THE SEVEN CHURCHES IN THE SPIRIT which I am the Chief Pastor . In connection with these UNITY OF THE FAITH AND THE ONENESS OF THE FATHER; ONENESS OF LORD; ONENESS OF THE SPIRIT; ONENESS OF FAITH; ONENESS OF BAPTISM AND ONENESS OF BODY-THUS ONE BECOMES PERFECT IN THE SPIRIT. Pls visit my website-THEGOODNEWSOFTHEKINGDOM@yahoogroups.com
2007-07-06 22:41:23 UTC
Mormonism

Christian* or Cult?#

Mormonism, known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (with headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah -- a state that is now 70% Mormon), was officially founded in 1830 by Joseph Smith Jr. (1805-1844). Smith claimed to have had a personal visit from God the Father at the age of 15, who introduced him to Christ.1 Jesus then supposedly told him not to join any church because they were all wrong and all the Christian church's doctrines "were an abomination" (Joseph Smith -- History 19, Pearl of Great Price). After Smith's murder in 1844, Brigham Young took the cult to Utah, where there is now a major University named after him, and the number of Mormons exceed one million. The Mormon Church currently claims about 11 million baptized members worldwide (5.2 million U.S., ranking it 5th among the largest 25 U.S. denominations), up from about 2.5 million in 1970. 1970. Over the last decade, nearly 300,000 individuals over the age of eight have joined the Mormon Church every year. Membership is expected to grow to over 23 million over the next two decades. It is growing fastest in Latin America and Asia. Official publications include Church News, a weekly 16-page newspaper, and the Ensign, a monthly magazine.



The Mormon Church collects at least $6 billion a year from its members, and generates at least another $5 billion in sales from its various business enterprises; total church assets exceed $30 billion. (At least 100 companies are controlled by the Mormon Church, and some estimate its total annual revenues in excess of $20 billion! The church also owns 18 radio stations in the U.S.) Part of the Church's income goes to operate an elaborate internal welfare system so its members avoid any governmental assistance. The Mormon Church also has a 58,000-plus missionary force working in more than 160 nations in 102 languages. The Church's Provo, Utah, 26-acre Missionary Training Center receives 500 new missionaries a week into its 3-9 week intensive missionary training program. (All boys, once they turn 19, are expected to dedicate two years of their lives to missionary service.) Fielding missionaries is a $500 million per year effort and currently reaps more than 300,000 new converts each year. Nevertheless, only about 46% of Mormons attend a church meeting at least once a month. (The clean-cut image that Mormons have attained has been a major factor in the attractiveness of the Mormon Church to outsiders. They are forbidden to drink coffee, tea, and alcoholic beverages, and use tobacco products.)



The Mormon church (LDS) is organized so that one prophet leads the church. Beneath the prophet in authority is the Council of the Twelve Apostles. A third group of men are called the First and Second Councils of the Seventy. All of these men together are called the General Authorities. Local churches are called Wards or Stake Centers and meet for worship in what the Mormons call "meetinghouses." The Temples are not for worship, but are used for ceremonies for the living and the dead. Less than ten percent of all LDS members are allowed to enter these structures.



As of year-end 2002, there were 114 operating temples of Mormondom worldwide, with another 14 under construction or approved (albeit less elaborate than the 50 temples in existence at the end of 1997). (Approximately 65,000 members must be in an immediate area to qualify for a temple.) Temples are required for Mormon marriages and for proxy baptisms of ancestors. Most people assume Mormon temples are places of worship. This is not true. Only secret, occult rituals for the living and the dead are performed there, and Mormons think they must perform them to have eternal life. It is tragic that over eleven million Mormons think they need secret handshakes, oaths, incantations, and rituals, which originated in occultic Scottish Rite Freemasonry, in order to be with God in heaven! (In the final years of Joseph Smith Jr.'s life, he became a "worshipful master" in the Masonic Lodge.)



Many today are under the false impression that Mormonism is merely another Christian denomination, when in actuality, Mormon beliefs are not only unbiblical, but anti-Christian. Below are the highlights of what Mormons believe concerning their source of authority, the Trinity, God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, sin, salvation, and heaven and hell:



1. Source of Authority. Mormonism teaches that the canon of Scripture was not closed when the Bible was completed. They have three sources in addition to the Bible, all of which they believe contain God's revelations -- the Book of Mormon 2 (changed in more than 4,000 places since 1830), Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. However, Mormons follow the teachings of these three books even when they contradict the Bible. For example, Mormonism teaches that the Bible is the Word of God "as far as it is translated correctly." Then whenever a Mormon belief contradicts Scripture, the Mormons say that particular part of Scripture is translated incorrectly, and that the correct translation is in one of the Mormon scriptures (The Maze of Mormonism, p. 131). Thereby, the Bible is rejected as the infallible Word of God. [e.g. "The Bible is considered usable, but suspect due to its many errors and missing parts" (Articles of Faith No. 8, Ensign, January 1989, pp. 25, 27).



2. Trinity. Mormonism teaches polytheism (versus monotheism taught in the Bible), believing that the universe is inhabited by many gods who produce spirit children. Joseph Smith declared, "I will preach on the plurality of Gods. I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370). Mormon Apostle Bruce R. McConkie spoke about the Godhead in this way, "Plurality of Gods: Three separate personages: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, comprise the Godhead. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists. To us, speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods" (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 576-577).



3. God. In Mormon theology, the god of our planet is believed to have once been a man on another planet, who through self-effort and the help of his own father-god, was appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth, and now has a physical, resurrected, glorified body. Mormonism teaches that through the atonement of Christ and by their good deeds and "holy" living, men can one day become gods, and with their multiplicity of "goddess wives," populate their own planets. (This is what the celestial marriage and the Mormon temple vows are all about.) Mormon theology, therefore, humanizes God and deifies man.3



4. Christ. Mormonism acknowledges the divinity of Christ, but as noted above, Mormon doctrine on what constitutes divinity falls seriously short of the Biblical standard. Mormonism teaches that Jesus, Lucifer, and all the demons, as well as all mankind, are actually all spirit brothers and sisters, born in the spirit world as spirit babies to our man-god Heavenly Father and his goddess wives. Mormon leaders have consistently taught that God the Father ("Adam-god") had sexual relations on earth with Mary (his own spirit daughter), to produce the physical body of Jesus. Early Mormon apostles also asserted that Christ was a polygamist, and that His wives included Mary and Martha (the sisters of Lazarus) and Mary Magdalene.4



5. Holy Spirit. In Mormonism, a distinction is drawn between the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit. As LDS Apostle Marion G. Romney stated: "The Holy Ghost is a person, a spirit, the third member of the Godhead" (Ensign, May 1977, pp. 43-44). The sixth LDS prophet, Joseph F. Smith, explains that the Holy Spirit is not a person but rather an impersonal force: "You may call it the Spirit of God, you may call it the influence of God's intelligence, you may call it the substance of his power; no matter what it is called, it is the spirit of intelligence that permeates the universe" (Mormon Doctrine, McConkie, pp. 752-753).



6. Sin. In Mormon theology, it is not quite clear how the first humans, Adam and Eve, came to live on this earth and received bodies, but somehow they did and began the process of human procreation, whereby bodies are produced for their spirit children. But at the very beginning of the process of human generation, sin entered necessarily. The earthly bodies of Adam and Eve were intended to be immortal tabernacles for their spirits, "but it was necessary for them to possess through mortality and be redeemed through the sacrifice made by Jesus Christ that the fullness of life might come." Therefore, they disobeyed God's commands. Since the fall of man was necessary, it became necessary for men to disobey God in order to do His will. Adam's fall, thereby, was a fall "upward."5 Concerning the transmission of sin to Adam's posterity, Mormons take a negative position -- they believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression. Having rejected the doctrine of the imputation of the guilt of sin, Latter-Day Saints likewise repudiate the transmission of inherent corruption or original sin.



7. Salvation. Mormon theology teaches that the atonement of Christ was essential to our salvation and eternal life with God, but that it is not sufficient. Christ's shed blood on the cross provides for universal resurrection of all people, but does not pay for personal sins; according to Mormonism, only Christ's blood shed in the Garden of Gethsemane atones for personal sin. Besides faith in Christ, complete and permanent repentance of all sin as well as many good works are required.6 Mormonism also teaches that one must be baptized in water to be saved (baptismal regeneration), and that salvation will also be available in the next world for those "missing-out" in this one. Therefore, Mormons avidly pursue genealogy and practice baptism for the dead.7



8. Heaven and Hell. Mormonism teaches that there are three degrees of glory: Celestial (for good Mormons able to cease sinning in this lifetime -- see endnote #6 below), Terrestrial (for good people who do not comply with all the teachings of Mormonism), and Telestial (for those who have lived unclean earthly lives). (See also Mormon Doctrines, p. 348.) Mormonism teaches that there is a hell, but only for the "sons of perdition," a very small number of souls that cannot be redeemed. According to Mormonism, then, the vast majority of mankind will be "saved," though it should be obvious that no one will make it to the Celestial Kingdom. [Blacks used to be totally out of the equation: "Black people are black because of their misdeeds in the pre-existence" (Three Degrees of Glory, LDS Apostle Melvin J. Ballard, p. 21); "The ***** is an unfortunate man. He has been given a black skin. But that is nothing compared with that greater handicap. He is not permitted to receive the priesthood and the ordinances of the temple, necessary to prepare men and women to enter into and enjoy a fullness of glory in the Celestial Kingdom" (Elder George E. Richards). In 1978, however, the Mormon Church announced that God had lifted his curse from the African race.]



9. Temple Rituals. A typical temple ceremony would take place as follows: "The ritual began in a small cubicle where we had to strip completely. We then put on 'the shield,' a poncho with a hole for the head, but open on the sides (similar to a hospital gown). We went through a series of 'washings and anointings,' as various parts of our bodies were touched by elderly temple workers who mumbled appropriate incantations over them. Our Mormon underwear, 'the garments,' are said to have powers to protect us from 'the evil one.' It had occult markings, which were so 'sacred' that we were instructed to burn them when the garments wore out. The endowment ceremony mocked all doctrines held to by Biblical Christianity, and Christian pastors were portrayed as servants of Satan. We had to swear many blood oaths, promising we would forfeit our lives if we weren't faithful, or if we revealed any of the secrets revealed to us in the temple ceremonies. We were made to pretend by grotesque gestures to cut our throats, chests, and abdomens, indicating how we would lose our lives. We were never told who would kill us! The inference was, and history testifies to, that it would be the Mormon priesthood." (Testimony of a former Mormon.) [Note: The blood oaths and portrayal of Christian pastors were removed in April of 1990, despite the fact that the ordinance was purported to have been given originally by a revelation and was never to be changed.]



10. More from the Mouths of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.



Joseph Smith



"God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the children of Israel, and He will make me to be God to you in His stead, and the elders to be mouth for me; and if you don't like it, you must lump it" (Documentary History of the Church, vol. 6, pp 319-320).



"I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I" (D.H C., vol. 6, p. 408-409).



"The whole Earth shall bear me witness that I, like the towering rock in the midst of the ocean, which has withstood the mighty surges of the warring waves for centuries, am impregnable ... I combat the errors of ages; I meet the violence of mobs; I cope with illegal proceedings from executive authority; I cut the gordian knot of powers, and I solve mathematical problems of universities, with truth -- diamond truth; and God is my right hand man." (D.H.C., Vol. 6, p. 78).



"And I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted and there will not be so much as a potsherd left, ..." (D.H C., vol. 5, p. 394). [This prophecy was made in May of 1843, and the United States government has not been overthrown and wasted.]



"Here then is eternal life -- to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you..." (Teachings of the Prophet, Joseph Smith, p. 346).



"In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it" (Ibid., p. 349).



"The greatest responsibility in this world that God has laid upon us is to seek after our dead" [Our God of the Bible has forbidden us to have anything to do with the dead (Deut. 18:10,11).



Brigham Young



"I have never yet preached a sertuon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call Scripture. Let me have the privilege of correcting a sermon, and it is as good a scripture" (Journa1 of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 95; also see vol. 13, p. 264).



"I say, rather than the apostates should flourish here, I will unsheath my Bowie knife, and conquer or die. [Great commotion in the congregation, and a simultaneous burst of feeling, assenting to the declaration.] Now, you nasty apostates, clear out, or judgment will be put on the line ... If you say it is right, raise your hands [All hands up], let us call upon the Lord to assist us in this, and every good work." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 83)



"I could refer you to plenty of instances where men have been righteously slain, in order to atone for their sins ... This is loving our neighbor as ourselves, if he needs help, help him, and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 220). [Many were killed under what is called the "Blood Atonement Doctrine" Leaving Mormonism was one of the sins that the blood of Jesus could not atone for, and a person's own blood must be shed by Mormon priests as an atonement for sin.]



"I intend to meet them on their own grounds. ... and if any miserable scoundrel comes here, cut their throats." [And they obeyed; a wagon train of innocent men, women, and children were massacred at Mountain Meadows under the orders of Brigham Young. They were passing through Utah, and Brigham thought they were from Illinois where Joseph Smith had been killed. Many more were "atoned."]



"Gold and silver grow, and so does every other kind of metal, the same as the hair upon my head or the wheat in the field; ..." (JOD., vol. 1, p. 219).



"Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the Moon? ... So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the Sun. Do you not think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No Question of it; it was not made in vain." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 219).



"Do you think we shall ever be admitted as a State into the Union without denying the principal of polygamy? If we are not admitted until then, we shall never be admitted." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 269). [The Edmunds Act was passed in 1882 forbidding polygamy in the territory, and only then was Utah allowed to enter the Union. At that point the LDS church officially gave up polygamy. Another false prophecy from the Mormon prophet!]



"I think these preliminaries will satisfy me, and I feel prepared to take my text. It is the words of Jesus Christ, but where they are in the Bible I cannot tell you now, for I have not taken pains to look at them. I have had so much to do, that I have not read the Bible for many years. I used to read and study it, but did not understand the spirit and meaning of it ..." (1854 Conference discourse, October 8). [Brigham Young obviously did not understand the Bible, and neither do any of the other Mormon prophets!]





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* In recent years, Mormon leaders, including the church's modern-day "Prophet," Gordon B. Hinckley, have sought to align the LDS' public teachings and practices with those of politically correct, global ecumenicism. But it is only until recently that Mormons wanted to be called "Christians," preferring not to be included with Christian denominations, which Joseph Smith Jr. said were, "all wrong ... all their creeds were an abomination in His sight, and that those professors (Christians) were all corrupt" (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith, 2:18-19); Mormons have preferred to be called "saints." However, in the recent years, the LDS church has spent millions of dollars in an intense "PR" campaign aimed at moving the Mormon church into the mainstream of Christianity. The political and economic benefits of Mormons being included in the mainstream of Christianity are obvious. Further, for Mormons to be accepted as traditional Christians would greatly aid in proselytizing the members of Christian denominations into the LDS church. This is why the LDS church is trying so hard to present itself as Christian and is trying to overcome the stigma of being a cult (9/16/96, FBIS, "Are Mormons Christians," by Cooper P. Abrams III). Moreover, Mormons let it be known in early-2001 that they no longer wanted to be referred to as "the Mormon Church," "the Latter-day Saints Church," or by "LDS Church." If the name must be shortened, "the Church of Jesus Christ," or "the Church" is acceptable, they said (3/19/01, USN&WR). [Back to Top]





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# This report has been excerpted and/or adapted from two sources: (1) "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," Rick Branch (Watchman Fellowship Profile, 1993); and (2) Examining & Exposing Cultic & Occultic Movements, Jack Sin, "What is Wrong with Mormonism," April 2000, pp. 21-25.





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Endnotes

1 The Bible lists six identifying marks of false prophets, any one of which is sufficient for identification: (1) through signs and wonders they lead astray after false gods (Dt. 13:1-4); (2) their prophecies don't come to pass (Dt. 18:20-22); (3) they contradict God's Word (Isa. 8:20); (4) they bear bad fruit (Mt. 7:18-20); (5) men speak well of them (Lk. 6:26); and (6) they deny that Jesus, the one and only Christ, has come once and for all in the flesh (1 Jn. 4:3), thereby denying His sufficiency in all matters of life and godliness (2 Pe. 1:3). Most cults are founded upon false prophecies, which, if pointed out, offer an effective way to open blind eyes and rescue cultists. Mormonism boasts of its prophets -- but they have all been false. In the course of 18 years, founding prophet Joseph Smith made 64 specific prophecies. Only six of them were fulfilled -- fewer than 10 percent. Many of his proclamations dealt with the future of his church. For example, in August of 1831 he stated that God had told him, "The faithful among you shall be preserved and rejoice together in the land of Missouri." In September of 1832, he stated that the city of Independence would become the "New Jerusalem ... even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in this generation." Six years later the Mormons were driven out of Independence. No temple was built there. Eventually they were driven from Missouri and settled in Utah. In 1833, Smith prophesied that the United States would suffer unparalleled multiple disasters ("pestilence, hail, famine, and earthquake") which would sweep the wicked (non-Mormons) off the land, leaving Mormons safe in their Zion haven in Missouri. Instead, they fled to Utah. Among Smith's many other false prophecies was the declaration in 1835 that Christ would return within 56 years and many living then would "not taste of death till Christ comes" (History of the Church [Vol. 2], p. 182; [Vol. 5], p. 336). Smith's successor, Brigham Young, prophesied that the Civil War would not free the slaves. [Back to Text]



2 The Book of Mormon, purported by Joseph Smith Jr. to be "inspired by God," is the most famous of specifically Mormon "scriptures." Smith concocted the preposterous yarn that an angel named Moroni (pronounced ma-roe-nee) appeared to him in 1827 and told him of some golden plates hidden in a hillside near Palmyra, New York. From these plates, Smith supposedly translated the Book of Mormon. [Published in 1830, this was to become the first of many scriptures for the Mormon Church. By this time, Smith had also officially organized the LDS Church and was gaining a following. Over the next ten years, the church headquarters would move to Kirtland, Ohio; Independence, Missouri, and Far West, Missouri. Finally it would find a resting place in Nauvoo, Illinois.] In actuality, the Book of Mormon is a fraud, having been plagiarized from the Bible, from Shakespeare, from the pope's Essays on Man, from the Westminster Confession of Faith, and from other leading authors of the last few hundred years prior to Smith's death. Despite its plagiarisms, the Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible in hundreds of places (9/95, Maranatha Baptist Watchman). [Back to Text]



3 Joseph Smith explained, "I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did" (LDS History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 305). "The Father has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the fullness of his kingdom. In other words we will have the privilege of becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and have jurisdiction over the world, and the world will be peopled by our own offspring. We will have an endless eternity for this" (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 2, p. 48). [Back to Text]



4 Brigham Young stated, "The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood, was begotten of his Father, as we were of our father" (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 115). Mormon Apostle McConkie explained, "And Christ was born into the world as a literal Son this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. He was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events (Mormon Doctrine, p. 742). Jesus, according to Milton Hunter of the LDS First Council of the Seventy, is the brother of Lucifer: "The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind" (The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15). [Back to Text]



5 On June 8, 1873, speaking from the Salt Lake City Tabernacle, Brigham Young said, "The Devil told the truth ... I do not blame Mother Eve. I would not have had her miss eating the forbidden fruit for anything. ..." Another Mormon president declared, "The fall of man came as a blessing in disguise... We can hardly look upon anything resulting in such benefits [i.e., godhood] as a sin." Incredibly, Mormonism is based upon the belief that Satan's central lie is the gospel truth! [Back to Text]



6 See: (1) Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 27:13-27; Moroni 10:32-33; Mosiah 15:26-27; Alma 12:14-28; 34:32-35; 1 Nephi 3:7; (2) Doctrine & Covenants: 14:7; 58:42-43; and (3) Miracle of Forgiveness (Kimball): pp. 206-210, 313-315, 321-322, 354-355. [Back to Text]



7 Mormons believe that everyone who lives and dies on this earth goes to a place called the Spirit Prison, except faithful Mormons, who go to Paradise. Mormon Spirit Missionaries go down from Paradise to the Spirit Prison and teach the Gospel of Joseph Smith to the lost Christians and others there. Those who accept Mormonism must remain in prison until a worthy Mormon performs certain essential rituals, called "Ordinances," for them in one of the Mormon Temples. Then they are released from Spirit Prison to join the Mormons in Paradise. Since these rituals or Ordinances require a physical body to be washed, anointed, baptized, etc., they can only be performed by a living person in the place and manner prescribed by Deity, acting under Universal (Mormon) cosmic laws. [Back to Text]





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The Other Mormon Church# (RLDS)

(Community of Christ)

We are often asked about the "other Mormon church" that is headquartered in Independence, Missouri. The questions vary from: "are they a cult?" to "what is the difference between them and the Utah Mormons?"



The answer to the first is easy. YES, they are a cult.



The answer to the second is a bit more complicated. The RLDS (Reorganized Latter Day Saints) actually had its start after the assassination of Joseph Smith Jr., the founder and prophet of all LDS churches. After his death in 1844, there were many men who rose up and declared themselves to be the true prophet to replace Smith. Many of these new "prophets" began their own version of the "only true church." In fact, there have been over 100 distinct groups claiming to be the church that would end all controversy about the "restored" gospel. The RLDS is the largest of these spin-off groups.



When Brigham Young led most of the "saints" to the Salt Lake Valley in Utah, several leaders, who did not accept Smith's revelation on polygamy, branched off and formed the RLDS church. One of these men, Jason Briggs, who had been an elder in the LDS church in Nauvoo, Illinois, had his own revelation that Joseph Smith III (Joseph Jr.'s son) was the one to rightfully assume the mantle of "prophet." He, along with about 300 others, followed Emma Smith (Joseph Jr.'s first and only non-polygamous wife), to Independence, Missouri. At first, Joseph Smith III refused to take on the job of prophet, but he later relented and became the official head of the RLDS church on April 6, 1860. Its official publications are the monthly magazine Saints Herald and the bimonthly Restoration Witness.



Similar to most other churches which claim Joseph Smith Jr. as their founder, the RLDS Church is led by a Prophet and his counselors. These men are known collectively as the First Presidency. In addition, the RLDS Church has a Council of Twelve Apostles. There are lesser offices in the RLDS Church such as Bishops, Elders, etc. An RLDS Fundamentalist or Restorationist is one who believes the Book of Mormon is historically and theologically accurate. They also believe the RLDS Church, as defined by Joseph Smith III, is the only true church.



Since its founding, each RLDS prophet had to be a descendent of Joseph Smith Jr. This was not a problem until Prophet Wallace B. Smith failed to produce a male heir. But, the god of the RLDS was not to be foiled by this unfortunate turn of events; he "revealed" to Wallace in 1984 that it was now acceptable for women to hold the Mormon priesthood. Since Wallace does have daughters, it seemed likely that the next prophet of the RLDS church would be a prophetess. However, Wallace B. Smith retired several years ago, and for the first time in the church's history, a person not in direct lineage of Joseph Smith was appointed to be president -- Grant McMurray.



Strange as it may seem, the RLDS church has built its doctrinal statement on points of disagreement with the doctrine of the Utah Mormons. Unlike the Utah Mormons, they do not accept polygamy, marriage for time and eternity, that men can become gods, and blood atonement as taught by Joseph Smith Jr. Rather, they blame all these errors on Brigham Young. Here they had to change history, because both Young and Smith practiced and taught those things, semi-secretly until Smith's death. Later, Young taught all this in public without blushing. But, the RLDSs have plenty of heresies of their own.



Historically, the RLDS has taught the following doctrines:



The RLDS versions of the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants are considered to be scripture. They also accept Joseph Smith's rewritten version of the Bible, the Inspired Version [I.V.], as scripture.

Complete apostasy of the early Christian church (Fundamentals, F. Henry Edwards, pp. 175-210).

Joseph Smith Jr. was a prophet who restored God's church (D&C 1:4a and 1:5d-e).

Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthoods were restored (History of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Vol. 1, pp. 34-35).

Baptism for the remission of sins (D&C 39:2a-b, 16:4e).

Zion will be established in, and Jesus will return to, Independence, Missouri (I.V. of Gen. 7:20-25, D&C 57, Times and Seasons, Vol. 3, p. 710).

Heaven has three levels (D&C 76:5-7).

Those who do not hear the RLDS gospel in this life will have another opportunity in the next (D&C 76:6c).

Of the Holy Spirit, Kurt Goedelman of Personal Freedom Outreach, writes, "While it is easy to find stated that the Father and Son are regarded as persons in RLDS literature, it is difficult to find references to the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) as a person. Rather, He is mainly regarded as 'the living power and presence of God'" (Quarterly Journal, Vol. 8, No. 1, p. 7).



Unlike the Mormon Church, most RLDS members view the Book of Mormon as a 19th century product (Position Papers, pp. 103-112). The RLDS version of the Doctrine and Covenants also contains additional and different revelations than will be found in the Mormon version. In addition, they do not use the Pearl of Great Price as do the Utah Mormons.



In recent years, the RLDS Church has avoided viewing the Restoration of the Church as an actual historical event. In a speech given at the First Presidency Meetings in 1979, it was stated, "When we are honest about our own personal and corporate history, we realize that the apostasy and the Restoration were not events that happened one time in history but rather are processes continually at work among us" (Presidential Papers, p. 28). Thus, by denying the Restoration was an actual historical event, the RLDS Church has undermined the very foundation upon which all of Joseph Smith Jr.'s later work depends and, thereby, undermining their own foundation.



Even these RLDS' doctrines that had been cast in stone are giving way to modern day liberalism and New Age thinking. Paul Edwards, the dean of the Park College Graduate School of Religion and Temple School Center director, has stated that each member must look to his or her own existential experience for a basis of truth. They should not base their beliefs on the Bible or even the Book of Mormon, for each individual must form his own belief founded on his experiences. The Bible is considered a springboard for each person to form his or her own theology without help from any authority. Here is a quote from Edwards: "One of the most important needs for RLDS people today is to look existentially at primary experiences as the starting point for their theological activity." (Emphasis ours.)



Simply stated, Edwards is advocating that each individual view theological truths from a personal, subjective perspective, rather than from an historical, objective perspective. Instead of beginning with the Bible, or even RLDS scripture, such as the Book of Mormon and/or Doctrine and Covenants, the RLDS dean of theology recommends that each believer looks to his or her own existential experience for a basis of truth. Based on this idea, it would be difficult for the RLDS hierarchy to adopt any single Statement of Faith; for each individual would interpret those beliefs in his own existential way.



Echoing Edwards' views, Anthony Chvala-Smith, who received his Ph.D. from Marquette University, "explained there can be no 'perennial theology, only a theology of wayfarers'" (Ibid., p. 9). Thus, each believer in the RLDS religion is left to stumble in darkness, making their own way through the maze, with no help from higher authorities.



Finally, Robert Mesle, professor of religion at Graceland, in speaking about the place of the Bible in RLDS theology, stated, "We need to be teaching our young people to be responsible, discriminating readers of scripture (who) use scripture as a springboard not a trap" (Ibid.). In RLDS theology, the Bible is simply a beginning point for the individual's personal theology. The important source for theological truth is not God's word, but rather that subjective, existential experience. It is felt by many cult researchers that this ambiguity of doctrine may be due, in part, to both the on-going controversy between Fundamentalists and Liberals within the RLDS Church and the church's tendency to reflect the latest social trends.



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#This article ("The Other Mormon Church -- RLDS") as been excerpted and/or adapted from an article in the January 1997 Mount Carmel Outreach newsletter; and from "Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints," Craig Branch (Watchman Fellowship Profile, 1996[?]). On April 7, 2000, members of the RLDS voted at its world conference to go by a new name: Community of Christ. The new name took effect April 6, 2001. [Back to Top of RLDS]





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