Question:
Why doesnt the catholic church move more in this direction?
Andy
2012-09-01 08:45:37 UTC
I was raised catholic but a friend of mine and I went to his church which is a large non denominational church that use to be baptist (Lakewood) i think. I noticed thta the members at this church all seemed to enjoy more going to church. During the sermons all the members had bibles and following and taking notes. During the music, a lot of the members were lifting their hands in praise. The pastors sermons are in more of a sense of stressing following jesus in all that you do in your life and stresses having to follow jesus to get to heaven. The sermons were thought provoking and exciting and the music was more upbeat.

Why doesnt the catholic church move more in this direction in all fronts.
Nine answers:
Mediator
2012-09-01 20:10:22 UTC
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You can take your Bible to Mass. Lots of Catholics do. You can raise your hands when you sing if you want. No one is stopping you. Happens all the time in some cultures. Who do you think those Baptists are mimicking? Very common in Caribbean Catholic services or in Africa to "raise the roof." Has been for longer than most of those ad hoc nondenominational denominations have been around. Thank goodness they are using our Bible!



If you follow the Catholic Church, you already are following Jesus Christ in all that you do in your life. It's a given. Those preachers have to say it because they don't have anywhere near the comprehensive theology and expression of faith that you'll find in the Catholic Church. If you follow Jesus Christ, you'll end up in the Catholic Church. Now why do you suppose they haven't gotten that far? Maybe they need your company so they keep things all happy and endorphin-generating.



They don't have an ordained ministry, and Church militant, the influence of pedigree of the Catholic Church and most of all



THEY DON'T HAVE THE EUCHARIST



Get the hell outta there boy, and come home.



Don't you realize they are practicing ad hoc Christianity and trying to figure out what the Catholic Church has known for two millenium? Do you not know that? We are talking about ignorance and revelation here people. Revelation didn't pop up 500 years ago. It's been with us for more than 2,000 years in the Catholic Church. But instead of FOLLOWING some people want to lead themselves and they CHOOSE ad hoc religion. Ad hoc means a group of people decide on something and go with it. That's how the Catholic Church started right? NO. It started by the direct hands-on intervention of Jesus Christ in the lives of 12 men. Eleven of them and one mother stayed with Christ until the end. One of them wanted to choose his own way. Now what are you going to do? Follow some idiot ad hocking their way with whatever intentions they have or follow those whom Jesus Christ entrusted and invested FOR us? If you believe as those cluckyclucks do that Jesus is going to leap off the page of a book into their hearts, then you certainly can believe Jesus Christ can appoint a priesthood, arm them with the ability of changing bread and wine into his body and blood and fulfill a New Covenant. So please help us fulfill the New Covenant. Come home.

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2012-09-01 16:05:55 UTC
My opinion...



The Roman Catholic Church "Mass" is hidebound by tradition. This can be seen particularly well in the "Hosanna" (I"m not sure of the real name). In the Bible, the people were excitedly and happily shouting "Hosanna in the highest" while Jesus triumphantly entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday. In the Catholic Mass, it sounds like people are reciting some funerary prayer, mournful and sad.



This I noticed when a teen - probably on a Palm Sunday when that passage is read from the Bible.



Make no mistake: the "traditional" Catholic Mass is beloved by many Catholics and also very attractive even to many non-Catholics. But it's not the sort of ceremony that is attractive to me, and you are obviously also not attracted by it.



Before you "jump ship" and convert to another sect, I recommend that you explore options - hopefully with your Catholic pastor or some other advice. For example: most larger cities have at least one Catholic church that holds "charismatic" religious services, and those are very much more like what you experienced in the Non-denominational church.



In my experience (I've attended Sunday services repeatedly in about 20 different churches), non-denominational, United Pentecostal and Assemblies of God all put on a sort of "show" for the audience. Modern, loud music (much too loud for my tastes), lively sermons and other activities that keep the audience riveted and interested. This is not necessarily a bad thing!!! But realize that it *is* show, and that there is far more to a church than how entertaining or interesting or personally-involving the Sunday service is.



So: explore your options carefully. Don't make any sudden, ill-informed decisions about switching churches. On the other hand, I highly recommend that you explore religious services in as many local churches as possible. Don't neglect your Catholic obligation while doing so, though! If you call it quits with the Catholic Church, do so knowing - not hoping - that you are making the right decision, a decision that allows you to better serve God.



- Jim, Fundamentalist Christian, http://www.bible-reviews.com/
Darth Eowyn Loves Plinkett
2012-09-01 21:30:15 UTC
Because the Eucharistic liturgy in the Catholic Church has not changed since the day Christ instituted it at the Last Supper and when the Apostles carried out the divine liturgy throughout the ancient world.



If you don't know what that means or why I say that, then you need to study more of your Catholic theology and history before deciding to leave the Church that Christ instituted.
?
2012-09-01 16:57:14 UTC
Because Catholicism isn't about emotional outbursts and modern music. Our Mass is supposed to be solemn and contemplative as it always was. We are trying to focus on the glories of God and the next life, not jumping and rolling on the floor claiming it is the Holy Spirit.



I am also confused at your comments on the Protestants having Bibles, Catholics have Bibles at Mass, too. The missal provided to you lists all of the readings that will be read during that Mass. During a three year period, we read the entire Bible, while most Protestant churches just pick and choose which verses support their theology while skipping many passages.



About the music. "Upbeat" isn't what we are going for. We are trying to glorify God, not have a party. Sacred music has meaningful lyrics and calming, simple, tunes in order to give us peace and come into communion with God.
XAndrewX United-Year of Faith
2012-09-01 16:01:58 UTC
Just show were Jesus put on a show to deliver his message?



St. Paul says not to deliver the Gospel with "clever" speech.



You should have been taught as a Catholic that mass is a celebration, not a bible study.



You are being mislead by entertainment and not being lead be the spirit.



"There are not more than 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church. ....As a matter of fact, if we Catholics believed all of the untruths and lies which were said against the Church, we probably would hate the Church a thousand times more than they do."



-----Archbishop Sheen



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs6qZd_xP1w



Peace be with your spirit



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http://catholicmyths.blogspot.com/
Michael
2012-09-01 16:20:28 UTC
The Holy Mass is in essence, taking part in Christ's sacrifice on the altar. Jesus is sacrificed (not in a cannibalistic, physical kind of way), but that He, at the moment the priest says the exact words, Christ Himself said, "Take this and eat of it... for this is my body... which will be given up for you", the bread and wine becomes to body and blood of Christ. So in essence, the songs, and psalms, in general are more solemn, to express Christ's loving sacrifice.



But there are also songs, that are joyful, and triumphant as well.



In essence, the reason why we should go to Church every Sunday, is not to experience enthusiasm and emotion constantly, but to know Him more better, to come closer to Him by means of Holy Communion, and to spend time with Him like going to Mass every Sunday.



God Bless!
2012-09-01 18:02:34 UTC
lol God is not here to entertain you. What happens in the mass is considered holy, and so we try and teat it with the utmost reverence. Your relationship with Christ is personal, if you don't get anything out of it, its not on the church, but on your shoulders.



Also there is something called Catholic Charismatic Renewal, it is like a service you described but Roman Catholic. Please look into it.



God bless.
Tolstoyevsky
2012-09-01 20:52:26 UTC
Lakewood is a dog n pony show, and the ringmaster is ashamed of Jesus. Pass.
Daver
2012-09-01 20:53:59 UTC
So, in other words, you bought into the Baptist "dog and pony" show. . HA HA!


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