Question:
Offended by Kathy Griffin's remark about Jesus?
bellesnail
2007-09-13 13:55:14 UTC
Were you offended by Kathy Griffin's remark at the VMA's? "A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus."
C'mon! Not only is that funny, but don't you think it is true? All kinds of people who obviously aren't Christ-like thank God every time they win award. At least she was honest in saying that God "Jesus" had nothing to do with it right? Granted, she should'nt have followed it with "Suck it Jesus!" But thats all relative.
57 answers:
2007-09-13 13:59:15 UTC
She didn't offend me at all. She has the right to believe whatever she wants to.



Why do so many Christians find it offensive if someone says their god did nothing for them yet are outraged at the idea of not being able to spew Jesus at everyone else?
River
2007-09-13 14:24:24 UTC
Not at all. If someone had done this to any other Deity or Religion, the Christians would all be cheering. (Example: No one said a word when Bush stated Wicca is not a real religion and he didn't view them nor Atheists as True Citizens because of their lack of Christian Faith)



Below is a site with some of her remarks afterwards. One being "Am I the only Catholic left with a sense of humor?" In here today I have seen so many call her an Atheist and here she is stating she's Catholic. Later in the same article it states by another person that she is a self-described militant atheist. So which is it?



The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences reacted responsibly to our criticism of Kathy Griffin's verbal assault on 85 percent of the U.S. population," Donohue said in a statement on the group's Website. "The ball is now in Griffin's court. The self-described 'complete militant atheist' needs to make a swift and unequivocal apology to Christians. If she does, she will get this issue behind her.



The second site is hers... if you go to the bottom you find that her father recently passed and she asks for prayers for her family. Would a Militant Atheist ask for prayers? Do people even look into this stuff before they start ranting?



I don't think she needs to apologize. I think people need to lighten up.
DrMichael
2007-09-13 14:15:00 UTC
Ever since I was a kid and would go to school sporting advents I always thought it was strange for people to pray "Lord help me win"



I asked myself:



1. With so many other things going on in the world why would the outcome of a sporting advent really matter?



2. If their were two Christians competing against each other Why would God play favorites?



And if God truly cared who won the VMA's surly Kathy Griffin and others who don't believe in God would never win.



The Bible says:

"Render unto Caesar therefore what is Caesars'; render unto God what is Gods'."



I think that if there had been a Hollywood, TV, Movies, and Big time sports like Nascar and the NFL when Jesus was on earth, then the passage above would include these things along with Caesar!
endpov
2007-09-13 14:32:09 UTC
It usually takes a lot to offend me, and I think Kathy Griffin is a very funny comedian (I'm not sure if she's funny or just outrageous) and has been through a lot in her personal life too, so I can't say that I personally was very offended by her comments. It did "raise my eyebrows" though - I couldn't believe she said it. I thought to myself, "man, if I was one of her PR people she has on her show, I'd be calling damage control right now!!!!!! I MEAN D*M* KATHY G!!!!!!!!



However, I know a lot of people (who I also admire) who are closer to Jesus than me and for very good reasons and were very offended by her comments (And btw, they aren't religious fundamentalist loonies or anything, just average folks who don't like hearing JC crucified again. So, in that respect, I'd have to side with the JC people and not the KG people.



I understand it's all just words, which is why I must confess that I too thought it was funny, unfortunately, I also have found out that their are a very few shall we say "not so nice folks" out there who consider it more than just words and consider it a major opportunity to continue going about their plan to ruin things for the rest of us. And we all know it only takes a few to ruin it for the rest of us. So this has to be taken into consideration too.



You do have a good point about the opposite happening, non-religious people thanking a god they know nothing about. Another reason I'm not too concerned about this.



Just don't do it again Kathy (yea, right, like we can count of that happening) LOL, but really you're right in a way, bellesnail, at some point we really have to lighten up, people.



Oh and just one more thing, er, uh, Kathy, I know you were really excited to win an Emmy (does this mean you move up to the C list?). but, I really hope you don't go around worshipping a golden statue as your god, like you said (historically, it's just a really bad thing to do, leads to utter chaos and stuff like that, don't ya know.). Of course you know!!! You're a Catholic!!!
liddabet
2007-09-13 14:05:56 UTC
People can thank whoever they want. If she didn't want to thank Jesus - she didn't have to do it. Still - I find it a little odd. I mean - a lot of people thank their parents too. So - why didn't she get up there and say - "the parents of the other musical artists didn't have anything to do with me winning this award - so I'm not thanking them!" I'll tell you why - because she was trying to make a point. I don't think awards are the place to make points about religion or politics.



I'm not a Christian - and I wasn't offended - but I don't really support that kind of behavior.



Namaste!
imacatholic2
2007-09-13 22:10:32 UTC
Yes, I was offended.



In her speech, Kathy Griffin said "A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus," an exultant Griffin said, holding up her statuette. "Suck it, Jesus. This award is my god now."



Ms. Griffin has the freedom of speech to say very horrible things to insult many millions of people. But those millions of people also have the freedom of speech to tell Ms. Griffin that her speech was insensitive and offensive.



Freedom of speech goes both ways.



The Catholic League, an anti-defamation group, called on the TV academy to "denounce Griffin's obscene and blasphemous comment."



The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences agreed and said in a statement, "Kathy Griffin's offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast."



Can you imagine the uproar if Ms. Griffin had said Allah or Muhammed instead of Christ?



http://www.comcast.net/tv/index.jsp?cat=TELEVISION&fn=/2007/09/11/760303.html&cvqh=itn_griffin



With love in Christ.
allure45connie
2007-09-13 14:11:45 UTC
I am not a fan of Kathy Griffin .But I think her remark was right on . I am sick of people thanking the rosary beads on their rear view mirrors , Atheletes praying on the sideline for Jesus to kep them from injury , Jockeys thanking Jesus for winning big races , Rap artists thanking God that their Racist , Anti women , Anti societal CD won an award , and so on . And when things turn out bad and the swinging rosary beads distract them and they drive into a tree they say " God must have a bigger plan for me" Yeah , he want's to make you an even bigger idiot !
2007-09-13 14:04:55 UTC
Why should her remarks offend me? She's entitled to her opinion. Stupid remarks happen on award shows all the time. Plus mediocre talent is awarded and applauded. That's why I never watch them.



God Bless.
Mrs M
2007-09-13 14:07:11 UTC
Yes I am offended.

First and foremost Kathy Griffin needs to get saved. What she doesn't realize or understand is that Jesus had everything to do with her getting that award. He is her Creator and gave her the very breath that she is breathing. The sad part is that she refuses to acknowledge Him and she will suffer in eternity for it.

Do I appreciate her honesty? Well, yes in a way I do. I'm glad she's not sauntering up there thanking Jesus like most other self deceived people. They will be among the one's that say "Lord, Lord" and He will say "depart from me, you who practic iniquity. I never knew you."

I think her last remark was completely unnecessary. However, I understand that she is lost in her sin, and therefore can do nothing else but sin.
Flyingprincez
2007-09-13 14:20:33 UTC
Well she is going to regret every word that she said out of her mouth. Yes. I am offended by the remark that Kathy Griffin said. Celebrities are wordly and full of sin anyways. They are whorshipping the image of the Oscar, Emmy, and Grammy as a "God." In the Ten Commandments God says:



Exodus 20:3-4 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.



She said something to the fact the the award was her God now. Like Kathy and many other celebrities their souls are lost. If she is not careful God's wrath will fall upon her and it will not be nice. God does not like wicked and will cast those who want to sin and speak wickedness into the LAKE OF FIRE.
sugarbabe
2007-09-13 14:04:24 UTC
That is not the only thing about Kathy Griffin that offends me. She has a far too good opinion of herself, so she's not really interested in mine. Suffice it to say, that I won't be buying a ticket for any of her performances, nor will I miss her when she finally dries up and blows away.If she really was avant-garde, why didn't she say Allah had nothing to do with it? Oh, yeah, it's less deadly to offend Christians, that's it.
beattyb
2007-09-13 14:04:07 UTC
It was neither funny nor offensive to me. If those are her feelings, so be it. I think some people may be offended by it but we have to realize that this is America, and in America we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion so people are going to say and do what they want to say and do.
Chimichanga to go please!!
2007-09-13 14:07:39 UTC
I was greatly offended by her remark. If one wants to thank Jesus for something, that is their prerogative. If they don't want to thank Jesus, then why mention Him at all? Why not just say whatever they want to say? Why was it necessary for her to make such an offensive comment and then act as if it was perfectly fine to say so? If she had made a comment about Muslim or Judaism or some other religion, there would have been a huge public outcry, but people seem to have it in their heads that it's perfectly okay to say hateful or nasty things about Jesus Christ and/or Christians and we are just supposed to not be bothered by it. Treat others how you want to be treated is MY motto and there is something I don't believe in, then I'm certainly not going to make such an incredibly rude and inappropriate comment which could offend many who DO believe. I used to find her humor funny at times, but now I will not listen to anything she has to say. She has lost any respect as a comedienne in my book.
XX
2007-09-13 14:26:56 UTC
I am offended that people think freedom of speech is good when they are spouting off love of jesus, but bad when others do not share their opinion.
dickenerfelheimer
2007-09-13 14:02:44 UTC
I don't think anyone is understanding the double meaning behind her message. Yes she meant that she doesn't have to thank Jesus because she doesn't believe, but the really funny part is that for those who do believe Jesus wouldn't have helped her win the award - 'cause she doesn't believe.



You Go Kathy!!!
Torrid
2007-09-13 14:04:08 UTC
"What...what...I can't believe it....thank you all so much for this reward, I just couldn't have done it without you or your support. Bust most of all, I have to thank God for all that he has done."



I've gotten used to hearing that at all the reward shows, I don't pay attention anymore. It's just like hearing Paris Hilton or Micheal Vick from jail saying that they has found Christ, it is just something to say to make themselves look good.



As for her other comment, it was uncalled for and I do take offense to that, but it's no different then hearing people using God's name in vain everyday. I just tune it out.
bryanccfshr
2007-09-14 15:21:05 UTC
I thought it was funny, especialy after she probably had to snore through all the other thank Jesus acceptance speeches.

I love this woman!
Bobbie
2007-09-13 14:07:02 UTC
I missed it, don't keep up with that any more but people say worse stuff on here.

And I'm sure Jesus is used to it and it doesn't bother Him because He knows the outcome of it all.

He was spit on and crucified for stuff He didn't do So a little talk like that won't offend Him in the Least.



So why should I be offended?

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Who do you think gave them the talent???

+He lets us Live.+ SHHH.... God is in Control.
Sunshine
2007-09-13 14:07:21 UTC
I was not offended and I don't think Jesus has anything to do with any awards people get. Also, I think someone has to be pretty arrogant to think that Jesus would do for them what He would not do for everyone.
Allison P
2007-09-13 14:02:40 UTC
Really, people? Do you think he cares whether you win a beauty contest or a popularity contest? If He existed, you woudl ahve to agree that with all the other crap going on in the world, He doesn't care how good you look, what kind of car you drive, none of it. Why do you give him credit?
Augustine
2007-09-13 14:05:40 UTC
Personally..... it should be treated the same as if she insulted Jews or Muslims. They would be calling for her head on a platter.



I guess because of the lack of screaming people and burning streets this shows which religion is truly the religion of peace.
FrancoAmerican!
2007-09-13 14:03:24 UTC
Just because someone is a let's say Rapper, doesn't mean they are not God Fearing ppl!



Kathy Griffin needs to watch out for lightening bolts!
samans442
2007-09-13 14:03:37 UTC
As a Christian, I thought her remarks were funny. Take things with a grain of salt, people. If you watch her show, you know she's Catholic like the rest of her Irish family.



She's a satirist. That's what she does, make fun of people, including herself.
shadowgirl777
2007-09-13 14:06:04 UTC
Indeed, I'm tired of these people thanking god every time they win! God will know in their hearts if they're thankful, won't he? I don't know who said this, but: "If God is so omnipotent, why does He need your puny, insignificant worship?" Go Kathy! :)
2007-09-13 14:04:31 UTC
No i wasn't, it appears that people are coming out and speaking what or where the heart is. At least they are honest about what they think and feel about God, it's better then dealing with a lier that call themselves christain.
2007-09-14 08:24:14 UTC
As the book of Kermit says,

"She is an empty shell"

She will surly burn in the lake of fire for that,along with the rest of the people in her industry.
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2007-09-13 14:13:28 UTC
She showed her true colors, it was ugly. Ive never heard of her nor do i watch the awards shows, but i heard what she said.
Rossonero NorCal SFECU
2007-09-13 14:08:18 UTC
Dense, but not really offensive. She better be glad people weren't thanking A*lah, because if she made this crack about islam there'd be riots.
gopher646
2007-09-13 13:59:31 UTC
I think it's hilarious. I applaud her for her honesty.



We have so many people thanking God during speeches and I never complain that it's offending me, why should it offend someone when Kathy goes out of her way to not thank someone?



Go Kathy!
nottashygirl
2007-09-13 13:59:45 UTC
I am not at all - it's part of her usual humor. They gave her an award for her humourous show, but then she isn't allowed to use that humor on their show? Doesn't make sense to me. Once again, political correctness rears it's ugly head. Some people are just too damn sensitive to unimportant stuff. It was a joke people - she is a comedian! Chill out!
barefoot_yank
2007-09-13 14:02:27 UTC
Why is it perfectly acceptable for someone to say, "I thank Jesus for this award" but it's NOT acceptable for someone to say, "Jesus had nothing to do with this award"? It's her opinion, as is the first statement. THAT, my friend, is hypocrisy.
Dharma Nature
2007-09-13 13:58:55 UTC
Yes, it's always a shame when people ruin good points by acting like idiots. If the delivery is bad, the delivery becomes the message.
Carlos C
2007-09-13 14:01:40 UTC
What would be worse.....saying what she said, and I am not saying I agree with it, or saying thank you to a God figure you really don't believe in anyways? Who would be the real hypocrite?
2007-09-13 14:02:16 UTC
First thing she said that was in any way amusing.

After reading her comments, I learned to dislike her a little bit less.

If she keeps up the good work, I may someday laugh at one of her jokes.
2007-09-13 21:17:46 UTC
People who believe need to now go off on them...



Otherwise, no fear..they'll do it again.
Bill K Atheist Goodfella
2007-09-13 14:02:58 UTC
Her comments seemed more like an attempt to gain attention. IMO, she's not all that funny; and what better way to make headlines, than to say something controversial?
laverew
2007-09-13 14:13:16 UTC
No I do not think it is funny, it is blaspheme against God.



Peace be with you
TLH
2007-09-13 14:01:56 UTC
What I want to know is, where can I buy a "Suck it, Jesus" t-shirt.



What I think she was really doing in this acceptance speech was making a satirical comment about celebrity acceptance speeches, where rappers who sing about bitches and hos give their thanks to Jesus as soon as they accept their award.
2007-09-13 13:59:19 UTC
People get offended WAYYYY too easily. If Jesus was offended, let him email her. Who the hell are we to think we could or should defend Him.
♥[[Thesweetestgurl]]B®i♥
2007-09-13 13:59:19 UTC
it wasnt on the VMAS,but no

its funny.. =D
lonepinesusan
2007-09-13 14:04:21 UTC
No I was not offended. I do think it was funny.
That Guy
2007-09-13 14:00:44 UTC
That is awesome. I didn't know that, and I have no idea who she is, honestly, but I am now a fan!
super Bobo
2007-09-13 14:02:00 UTC
It may add another 30 minutes to her fame.



Poor girl isn't so talented. Surprised she won anything.
2007-09-13 13:58:31 UTC
Her remark does not offend me at all. I just choose not to look at her, or listen to her anymore.
2007-09-13 14:04:12 UTC
Oh boo hoo
FridaY
2007-09-13 13:57:51 UTC
I don't know, but Kathy Lee Gifford offends me.
2007-09-13 14:03:53 UTC
well she's right.. lol get over it she a professional comedian
Monkey Man
2007-09-13 14:00:50 UTC
three words flying spaghetti monster

http://www.venganza.org/
2007-09-13 14:00:32 UTC
That was brilliant. Jesus should be willing to be mocked for his beliefs, as should all Christians, or are all of you *******?
Gorgeoustxwoman2013
2007-09-13 14:05:27 UTC
Bravo Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-09-13 13:59:20 UTC
That is a atheist for you.
2007-09-13 13:58:32 UTC
its like a "have to" when you win an award. everyone does it
2007-09-13 13:58:58 UTC
I thought her comments were very funny...
~Heathen Princess~
2007-09-13 13:58:29 UTC
Ahahahahah that is freaking GREAT
2007-09-13 13:59:06 UTC
i find it rather nasty and stupid....this isnt celebs here...she sounds full of herself
2007-09-13 13:58:41 UTC
it makes me mad, and if she made fun of a jew of muslim all hell would break loose, but let her have her fun, and God shall punish her in the end
I give you the Glory Father !
2007-09-13 13:58:16 UTC
she will have to answer just like we all do....


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