Question:
Is the Shroud of Turin authentic?
butterfly
2009-05-13 21:14:42 UTC
Is the Shroud of Turin really the burial cloth that was placed on Jesus in His tomb?
22 answers:
andrew (one of His sheep)
2009-05-17 18:07:23 UTC
I would like to share something about this, here is an excerpt from wikipedia describing the shroud of Turin; " The shroud is rectangular, measuring approximately 4.4 × 1.1 m (14.3 × 3.7 ft). The cloth is woven in a three-to-one herringbone twill composed of flax fibrils. Its most distinctive characteristic is the faint, yellowish image of a front and back view of a naked man with his hands folded across his groin. " Notice that it isn't only the face but it shows that the whole body was wrapped in this one shroud, even describing how " his hands are folded across his groin. "



This is what the Bible says about what Jesus was wrapped in.



John 20:4 So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.

5 And he stooping down, and looking in, saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in.

6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,

7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.



Notice the linen clothes that His body was wrapped in was not the same as the one His head was, that it was a different cloth that was wrapped around the Lord's head,. In the 7th verse the Bible shows us this, and when the disciples seen the tomb after the Lord's resurrection they also seen that these two were not in the same place, but they were both in different places and wrapped together in a place by itself.



I hope this helps, and thanks for asking this question.



sincerely,

andrew
Godspeed
2009-05-13 21:29:58 UTC
Some say yes and others no. On the pro side the image on the shroud can not be duplicated, the blood is real-AB positive, the blood stains match someone who was whipped and then laid down on his back, and the sweat matches the the kind of sweat the body gives off when whipped . The puncture wounds on the wrists are properly placed and the small dumb-bell marks on back of the body match what current historians know to be the methods used by Romans during the first century. During the Middle Ages the whip marks were painted as strips not dumb-bells and the punctures were always painted in the middle of Jesus' hands.



On the con side the carbon dating is to the 15th century, but some have explained this result is possible with certain aging creates a crust on fabric. Further, the back image appears shorter than the front.



Personally, I believe it is.



Godspeed.
Shinigami
2009-05-13 22:40:35 UTC
Carbon dating is a fairly accurate measure on things with carbon in them, because carbon decays at a certain rate.



The Shroud was in a fire and repaired during the 11th century. This may have skewed the reading....so there is still some doubt.



Although many here focus on the carbon dating evidence, the is no denying that how the image became a negative on the cloth is still a mystery that no one can explain.



Everything about the man depicted on the cloth is amazingly Christ-like. I don't think it takes much to believe that this relic was secretly preserved through the first 300 years of persecution handed down from believer to believer.



Significantly, the clincher for me is the people who have preserved this cloth. Does a person believe in the integrity of a fallible person? Is it possible for this thing to have survived?



and even so, if it was made in the 11th century, how? No one can say. The technology for creating negatives was not present.



Isn't it strange, yet wonderful, that a human invention (the camera) brought the cloth to life!!! And how, in this day and age we need that little bit of encouragement.
Maria
2015-05-06 06:47:08 UTC
Most accounts state that Jesus died at around the age of thirty-three. The image on the shroud depicts a much older man. Jesus suffered much, which could account for some aging, but I can't believe he aged as much as the depicted image shows. I want to believe that the shroud survived centuries and was left to humanity as a concrete reminder of the sacrifice Jesus made to save us sinners (past, present, and future). Based on the image of the shroud, the question of Jesus being wrapped in this shroud leaves food for thought.
2009-05-13 21:26:09 UTC
It is the image of a "dead man", wrapped for an extended length of time to be so well imprinted up the shroud. Jesus Christ was in the tomb not even a full 3 days and nights, which wouldn't have been long enough in my mind.
2009-05-13 23:45:26 UTC
Nope!! All the tests say it is a middle ages fake.



There have been some claims the tests were not accurate and calls for new testing but that has been refused - I wonder why?!!



The shroud is merely the flag of the doubters who seek some sort of proof for their god!!



If the shroud is tested again and proved yet again to be a fake it will loose all credibility and destroy the hopes of those who depend on it to shore up their weak faith!!
Jews 4 Yeshua.
2009-05-13 21:47:24 UTC
Well God's has left plenty of signs on earth for us to know if something it's true. The most two most important are His word will never pass and the other His Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit). In His word: Exodus 20. One of the 10 Commandments. You are not to make for yourselves a carved image or any kind of representation of anything in Heaven above, on earth beneath. According to This scripture. No is not real. Jesus followed the Ten commandments to perfection( People worship this shroud in the catholic religion. Now Holy Spirit will show you by teaching you the word of G-d. You want to know if G-d is real. Ask Him Yeshua (Jesus) to come in to your heart and He will let you know the truth through His word, Scriptures from the Complete jewish Bible. Ask Him as if you where talking to anyone in private. Well I hope I answer your question. The most important thing first is to receive salvation for etenal life through Jesus the Hebrew Messiah."Yeshua"!!
papatwitch
2009-05-13 21:24:48 UTC
The thing is fake just like religion!

Carbon dates back about 700 years.
pyrelight
2009-05-13 21:22:16 UTC
No, it is not the true burial cloth of Christ.



Researchers have findings about it.

Search if you want. ^_^





Try the link - http://theoldpath.tv/
2009-05-13 21:28:48 UTC
Of course it is. Just ask any slack jawed drool chinned special needs child of God otherwise known as a retarded Christian.
2009-05-13 21:20:02 UTC
An authentic fake.
Weise Ente
2009-05-13 21:18:00 UTC
No, it dates to the High Middle Ages.
Pastor Art (((SFECU)))
2009-05-13 21:23:29 UTC
No one living on earth today knows for sure.



I've seen it and there is much evidence that it is and much evidence that it is not.



I don't know.



See John 19:40 and John 20:5-7 and Luke 24:12
zaatheist
2009-05-13 21:19:59 UTC
No. It is a medieval forgery. Like the blood miracle.
2009-05-13 22:00:20 UTC
History says "no"

Science says "no"

The Bible says "no".



Three strikes, it's outta there!
Polly
2009-05-13 21:25:57 UTC
Nope, it's been shown to be a fake.
я℮ḋ αтℏ℮їṧṫ
2009-05-13 21:18:50 UTC
There's no reason to think so, and a few good reasons to be very skeptical.
I have my doubts
2009-05-13 21:17:03 UTC
As authentic as you want it to be.
?
2009-05-13 21:18:13 UTC
No. The myth has been falsified.
2009-05-13 21:17:48 UTC
Of course not.
Adam of the wired
2009-05-13 21:20:06 UTC
yes it is
mimjoy
2009-05-13 21:19:52 UTC
I do not think so.


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