What is the proof that Jesus is not one of the many pagan Gods the ancient Romans used to worship?

Question

They could have made everything up, couldn't they?

Answer 1

If you look at Judaism, the base faith of both Christianity and Islam, the differences are striking. The early Christian church would have been surrounded by not just Hellenic deities, but other Mediterranean peoples' deities - and Jesus has more in common with those than with the Judaic concept of the divine and Meshiac (messiah).



Almost every self-respecting deity from that region worthy of honoring as a major deity by the Pagans either came to earth in human form or fathered a child with a mortal woman to create a powerful demi-god that would teach and lead people. This demi-god/god in flesh (as the case may be) typically gained followers, performed miracles, sacrificed itself for its followers and then resurrected itself. Even the Christian and Islamic concepts of eternal torment has its roots in the Hellenic concept of Tartarus as it does not exist in Judaism either. As a matter of fact, the way Christians describe Jesus he absolutely could NOT have been Meshiac as he was (allegedly) not married, did not have children, was a god made flesh, did not gather the exiles, did not rebuild the temple at Jerusalem, etc etc. The only prophecy from the Tanakh he fulfilled was being a Jew (and male, of course). This leads me to believe that either the concept of Meshiac/messiah was corrupted by the Christians to bring it more in line with the common Pagan beliefs and practices at the time in that region to make it more palatable to early converts or that Jesus as a single entity simply did not exist and is indeed an amalgamation of various regional deities.



It's hard to say for sure which is the case but I do think it is pretty clear that both Christianity and Islam are really just Judeo-Pagan faiths as they both tend to teach as absolute truth things that directly contradict the Judaic understanding of the god of Abraham. So it may not be that Jesus himself was a single Pagan deity, but it is absolutely obvious to those familiar with all three faith systems and the surrounding regional faith systems that the two later faiths themselves are Pagan in nature.



I do believe that the bible writers were "divinely inspired". In the Pagan and Heathen faith paths we call this "unverified/unverifiable personal gnosis" or UPG. The thing is, it will be different for everyone, just as everyone's spiritual walk is different. Somehow this early UPG, this personal knowledge and understanding of the divine, became dogma to a large number of people and is now spread as absolute truth. That doesn't mean it is NOT true for those that base their spiritual walk on that UPG put on papyrus, it just means it shouldn't be mistaken for an actual physical truth as it clearly is not and clearly contradicts earlier doctrines.



I'm still studying various aspects of this for what was going to be a paper but now looks like it will turn into a book. It is fascinating, that's for sure.

Answer 2

Jesus faced those same questions while he walked this earth.



He said that if you REALLY want to know if His teachings were that of a mere man, or from God (implying the existence of said God), then "OBEY THESE COMMANDS, and you SHALL know (one way OR the other)" (Referring to the Sermon on the Mount, beginning in the 5th chapter of the gospel according to Matthew)



This is a "litmus" test that Jesus gave, and He said nothing at all about having faith or believing. If you want to know if Jesus really IS the Son of God (the God who is there), (er – DO you really want to know?) then read and obey the Sermon on the Mount as found in the gospel according to Matthew, starting in the 5th chapter.



If Jesus never existed, then nothing will happen.



If Jesus was a liar, then nothing will happen.



If Jesus was a lunatic, then nothing will happen.



If the Bible is nothing more than the writings of some crazy bronze-aged, goat-herding cave men as the atheist mockers keep insisting, then nothing at all will happen.



If you flat out reject this test, then I have to remind you of some other words Jesus said. He said that the reason people reject God is “because they are evil (their deeds are evil), and they love darkness (i.e. they love their sins and immorality), and they hate the light (i.e. they hate Truth)!” I can only conclude that you're just one more in an ever increasing line of hypocrites who talk a good talk, but don't really mean a thing they say, and that the only reason you don't believe in God is because you don't WANT to believe in God, and for no other reason; and your theme song is "Don't confuse me with Truth; my mind's already made up!"

Answer 3

every time someone believes some thing it is distinctive than yet somebody else's theory, he considers the different person's theory to be fake and his to be real. If someone replaced into stated as a Christian he/she will have the capacity to have confidence that each and every person different religions are actually not real. the reality of the difficulty (so a techniques as i understand) is not any rely what teachings you have, no person knows any further than the subsequent person. merely stay life and luxuriate in and by no ability be afraid to declare you do no longer understand. i think of admitting you have no longer have been given any thought how life began is a lot extra perfect than picking a faith at random or merely because of the fact your mothers and fathers have been advised it particularly is real. maximum non secular human beings understand little or no approximately the place the writings of their bible got here from or perhaps what the unique writings have been. Believing some thing merely out of the phobia of dying or eternal hell is the incorrect reason to have confidence. someone might desire to have confidence in keeping with what he/she knows. it fairly is merely my opinion.

Answer 4

Of the half dozen claimants to be the Messiah in first century Judaism, why is it always Jesus that atheists settle on as being the one who never existed, whereas all the others get a free ticket?



Or is that a silly question?

Answer 5

Probably the fact that Jesus was Jewish and started with followers who were Jewish. Not Roman. Or how about Roman emperors like Nero hunting Christians down for arrest and execution? He sure wasn't hunting down followers of Neptune.

Answer 6

Jesus rose from the dead.There is an empty grave. The year 2011 is reflected to the time Christ was born. People also use Jesus Christ as a swear word. People never use pagan gods as swear words.The bible says not to take the name of God in vain.

Answer 7

Nothing was made up. Everything Jesus did was before witnesses, sometimes thousands at a time.

Answer 8

Pagan gods have images man made themself, where is the image of the God of the bible? not any.

Image of christ is a Roman Catholic priest, not Christ.

Answer 9

If he was then the Jews wouldn't be upset with "the Jews killed Jesus" and neither would they say "the Romans did it".

Answer 10

Um...because they crucified Him. Also, pegan gods do not rise from the dead.

Answer 11

There is no proof. Jesus was probably based upon paganism.

Answer 12

Jesus isn't a pagan god, he's my lawn worker.

Answer 13

noob of the day? we've had this disussion on R&S before.