Question:
Do you know that Jesus could have failed? He could have sinned?
t a m i l
2007-06-02 08:08:23 UTC
Jesus was born without sin nature, like the 1st Adam. Jesus was tempted like the 1st Adam. Jesus could have sinned in His humanity. Then He wouldn't have been the Lamb of God without blemish. Then He wouldn't have raised from the dead. Because the wages of sin is death.

The first Adam failed & we all die. The last Adam (Jesus) won & we all may receive everlasting life.
Ten answers:
Kacey
2007-06-02 08:28:08 UTC
In response to the post about Christians not being objective: I personally have proof by the way God has worked in my life. No grand miracles, just the peace that I feel. I do not have to be anxious about anything because I know He has my back in all things. I am amazed by his showing me little proofs everyday in answered prayers. Just this month I received a random check for $245 I was not expecting which was the exact amount I had to pay for my brakes. He provides.
Frank
2007-06-02 15:27:29 UTC
Your question is nebulous, if indeed a question exists. Jesus was not a deity and the mythological origins are in dispute by historical fact. His Resurrection is even disputed. He was supposedly a carpenter when he was a descendant of kings, he supposedly was chaste when it appears that he married and perhaps sired children. He was a rabbi, of substantial wealth and of great influence, and even his Crucifixion is debated as being staged. Do some homework about the gospels before asking or pondering a question. The lamb of God signifies an animal for slaughter....??? According to the customs of the Middle East at the time, the three kings, at the time of his birth, brought frankincense and myrrh, they were used to prevent the odor of a dead body...hardly a gift to a baby.
2007-06-02 15:14:27 UTC
Interesting point. How do you know that Jesus didn't fail? What proof is there that his life wasn't marred by one tiny little indiscretion, like when he was 13 years old and saw his little neighbor Mary Bodacious peeing in the alley? What if he had an impure thought?



You're all doomed to hell!!!!!!!



Then again, if you take the alternative view that many Christians have, that Jesus was God and therefore it was not in his nature to sin, what is the big friggin' deal? If it was impossible for Jesus to sin then there is absolutely no importance to the fact that he was without sin.
Antares
2007-06-02 15:12:20 UTC
The last Adam, would technicaly be the last person who was born without a mother or a father.



Since such a thing has not happened, your premise is faulty.



Also, I can find more faults in this thought pattern of yours, that Jesus (God in flesh) had to come down to erase the sin of a single man.



Does that make sense to you?
Pops
2007-06-02 15:12:39 UTC
Jesus could not have failed and sinned. Jesus was God in human flesh. God is without sin. Pops
eldad9
2007-06-02 15:11:19 UTC
No, I didn't, and I still don't, because it's not true.



Did you know that there is a difference between your beliefs and the objective truth?



Did you know that not knowing this makes christians seem incredibly unintelligent and narrow minded?



Did you know that your jesus is just a rehash of earlier, cooler gods?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen



http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/jesus.html

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/



Did you know that the bible is a pretty horrible book?

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

http://www.evilbible.com/
vodavolk
2007-06-02 15:20:17 UTC
Pfft, yeah, I knew that! Like, who doesn't, seriously. Ask me a hard one next time...
2007-06-02 15:18:54 UTC
Do you know Pooh Bear loves you? Reject Heffalumps and Woozles and let Him into your honey pot!
2007-06-02 15:10:36 UTC
Yipee!!
The Skeptic
2007-06-02 15:27:51 UTC
Are you sure Jesus did not sin? Whats the Christians definition of sin?

Christian theology holds that a sinless Jesus was part of the heavenly Father's plan from the outset, to redeem mankind. After all, the act of disobedience by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, the Fall of Man, placed the stain of sin on humanity, one that cannot be removed through a person's own actions. Jesus, the perfect sacrificial offering of the future, was born through the impregnation by the Holy Spirit of a virgin, Mary, who remained a virgin throughout the term of her pregnancy. Mary gave birth to a child that was not blemished by the stain of Original Sin, since he was conceived of G-d and not through the customary act of copulation by two sinful humans. Jesus allegedly remained without sin throughout his entire life, since he is said to have perfectly kept all the commandments and, therefore, fulfilled the entirety of the Torah's precepts:



Matthew 5:17-19(KJV) – (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



With this passage as a backdrop, several accounts in the Gospel of Matthew are examined to test whether Jesus actually lived up to his proclamation.



Going on the premise that the historical Jesus existed, it should not come as a surprise that many statements attributed to him throughout the Four Gospels are consistent with Jewish teachings. After all, it is likely that Jesus, coming from a family of Pharisees and being exposed to this tradition, held to it and practiced Pharisaic (i.e., Rabbinic) Judaism. In fact, according to the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus acknowledged the authority of Sages and Rabbinic Judaism of his day:



Matthew 23:1-3(KJV) – (1) Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, (2) Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. [See also Mk 10:17-19, Lk 16:16-17, Jn 14:21.]



Although Jesus viewed them as hypocrites, he nevertheless acknowledged that the Biblical authority rests in the hands of the Rabbis who, in his day, were the Pharisees. The Four Gospels appear to indicate that Jesus instruct his followers to stop obeying the (written and oral) commandments. While he may have had some issues with various aspects of the Law (Torah), it is understood that Jesus did not advocate doing away with it. On the other hand, a close look at the Four Gospels reveals conduct and teachings ascribed to Jesus, which are at odds with Jewish Law.



Did Jesus Act in Accordance with Torah?

Bearing in mind the fact that anyone who transgresses even a single precept of Torah becomes a sinner, a sample of Torah commands are contrasted against the respective narrative found in the Gospel of Matthew to determine whether the conduct and teachings of Jesus were consistent with what the Torah requires.

1. Marriage and Procreation (Having Children)

The first of the 613 precepts appears early in the Book of Genesis:

Genesis 1:28 - And God blessed them [Adam and Eve], and God said to them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over every living thing that treads upon the earth."

Accordingly, human beings are commanded to marry and have children.

The New Testament is silent on whether Jesus obeyed this command. There is no evidence in the New Testament that Jesus ever married and fathered any children. Christian theology completely rejects this notion.

Conclusion: Jesus did not fulfill the command to marry and procreate.



2. Honor and Respect of Parents

According to the Fifth Commandment in the Decalogue, children must honor their parents:



Exodus 20:12 - Honor your father and your mother; in order that your days may be prolonged upon the land which the L-rd, your G-d, gives you. [See also Deut 5:16.]



The reward for keeping this commandment is long life – this is the only Commandment in the Decalogue that mentions such a reward!



Leviticus 19:3 – Every man shall revere his mother and his father, and keep My Sabbaths; I am the L-rd, your God.



The Gospel of Matthew contains the following account:

Matthew 12:46-50(KJV) – (46) While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. (47) Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. (48) But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? (49) And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! (50) For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. [See also Lk 2:42-50; Jn 2:3-4.]



Perhaps because Jesus did not honor his parents, he did not enjoy the reward of a long life on earth as promised in the Fifth Commandment!



This is what Jesus taught concerning the place of one's parents:

Matthew 10:34-37(KJV) – (34) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (35) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. (36) And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. (37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. [See also Lk 14:26.]



Conclusion: Jesus violated the commands to honor and respect parents!



The Jewish Law of Burial is based on commands in this passage:

Deuteronomy 21:23 –His body shall not remain all night upon the gallows, rather you shall surely bury him on that day, for he who is hanged is accursed by G-d, and you shall not defile your land, which the L-rd your G-d gives you for an inheritance.



Burial within 24 hours of death is commanded for an executed criminal. The Sages argued that, if this is to be done for an executed criminal, it certainly is the proper way to do it for an innocent person.



The Gospel of Matthew describes the way Jesus tested one of his disciples:



Matthew 8:21-22(KJV) - And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. (22) But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. [See also Lk 9:59-60.]



Jesus insisted that, rather than properly bury his own father, a person should follow him. This behavior also falls into the previous category concerning the honoring and respecting of parents.



Conclusion: Jesus violated the Jewish Law of Burial.



Did Jesus SIN in the above instances? I leave it to ALL Christians to answer that. But as usual, although Christians often refer to the Old Testament in evidence for their own belief, when they are confronted with Old Testament texts which conflict with their doctrines, they often point out that the Old Testament is done away with, nailed to the cross, and superceded by the Gospel.



Basically, No Standard when it comes to fair Arguments !


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