Question:
Atheists, please do explain HOW the big bang makes any sense at all?
2019-05-28 13:40:07 UTC
Atheists, please do explain HOW the big bang makes any sense at all?
54 answers:
2019-05-29 09:17:03 UTC
Peter Gore Seer,

The Big Bang Is Science Fiction, It's Science Taking Control Of A Idea, It Gives Science Credidibility, A Know It All Mentality. We Know Much Of The Past And Still * Up The Future.
2019-05-29 08:40:22 UTC
as you can see, they can't
Clive
2019-05-28 22:11:20 UTC
Theists, please do explain HOW your god theory makes any sense at all?
Ronald 7
2019-05-28 21:17:05 UTC
It was Nature
Jeffrey K
2019-05-28 16:46:08 UTC
A tiny region of spacetime inflated due to repulsive gravity of a higher energy vacuum state. It makes perfect sense and obeys the laws of physics.



The Big Bang theory does NOT say how the initial tiny space came into existence. That is unknown. But scientists think it will be explained by a new Quantum Gravity theory.
Raymond
2019-05-28 16:30:23 UTC
The Big Bang theory was built from the mathematical model and ideas of a priest (Father Lemaitre) who happened to be a decent astronomer AND a fantastic mathematician.

When the theory came out in 1948, a famous astrophysicist (Fred Hoyle) was very much AGAINST it. Fred was a proud atheist - claimed it made him a better scientist. In 1949, he came up with his own theory (Steady State); it is during a radio interview in 1949 that he made up the nickname "Big Bang" for the other theory. As far as Fred was concerned, the Big Bang was just a ploy, by the priest, to give his God a role to play in the "creation" of the universe.



This awful nickname is too bad: it gives the false impression that the theory describes an explosion (it does not). The theory "simply" describes the effect of the expansion of space on the energy content of the universe:



Same amount of total energy + more space to spread it out =

the energy density goes down (= the universe cools as time goes on).



Steady State proposed that the expansion of space did NOT cause a lowering of the energy density, because new energy was constantly created, making the universe eternally the same.



Back then (in the early 1950s), most scientists - and most atheists as well - went for Steady State simply because the mathematics were a lot easier. The mathematics in Father Lemaitre's model were so complicated (tensors) that even Einstein had a hard time with the model (he finally accepted it).



We had to wait until 1964 for sufficiently advanced instruments (radiotelescopes) to tell the difference between the two. Steady State was dropped and Big Bang appears to be, for now, very useful (it is not 100% perfect).



In the past, the universe was hotter (this is now an observed fact). The energy density was higher and that allows for things to happen in "young" galaxies (billions of years ago) that are no longer going on in older galaxies.



The Big Bang theory (the real one) can only go back for a limited time (13.8 billion years). At that point, the energy density was so high that we no longer understand how things work. The theory is silent about whatever could have existed "before". Some people use the phrase "the Big Bang" to mean that moment (which we call the Planck Time or Planck Moment).

Father Lemaitre simply assumed that this initial moment is the moment of creation by [his] God.
2019-05-28 14:30:05 UTC
Here is the answer atheism provides: "We see no compelling evidence that there are any gods".



If this answer does not satisfy the question, then the question is unrelated to atheism.
Cowboy
2019-05-28 14:21:36 UTC
One can lead a Christian to knowledge but can't make them think (much less understand).



Redshift......
daniel g
2019-05-28 14:02:29 UTC
Well, I am no atheist but the big bang makes perfect sense to me.
Acetek
2019-05-28 13:52:56 UTC
the Universe is under no obligation to be understood by you - Dr Neil Degrasse-Tyson
D g
2019-06-01 02:06:38 UTC
Its a waste of time explaing the operation of something complex to someone so gullible that they believe some imaginary invisible being said piof and then the sun appeared
JASON
2019-05-31 19:36:04 UTC
Sorry, you're right. It was an old man with a beard all along.
?
2019-05-31 16:27:49 UTC
I am not an Atheist, but the motion of the universe and it's elements strongly suggest an EXPLOSION of sorts from a central location.---Makes perfect sense. The Bible might say that "God created it all", but it dies NOT say HOW he did it and what forces were involved.. It's up to US Scientists to discover THAT.
2019-05-31 15:08:38 UTC
not believing god exist,, has nothing to do with big bag concept

any more than ice cubes in my freeze have anything to do with frozen ammonia on moons of other planets



a Faith based religion seeks to define beginning and end of life



atheist do not believe there need to be/or are facts proving existence of those explanations



Atheist accept what is - is and look at facts but see no end to learning

Theist (people believe god exist) create a story and tell everyone to accept it and look no more
?
2019-05-31 13:01:01 UTC
The Big Bang probably did happen. However, something had to have started that first spark because according to the Law of Conservation of Energy, matter can not be created nor destroyed. That being said, something OUTSIDE of time, space, and matter had to have created that first spark because something can not be created out of nothing. Whether that be God of the Bible, a deity, a divine creator, or a spiritual force, something like that definitely existed and is the only answer to the universe being created. Science and religion coexist. More than 50% of scientists believe in a higher power and the more scientists study and research, the more they believe in a creator because it is really the only logical explanation. Don’t think that you only have to pick either science or religion. You can pick both because they go together. Like Albert Einstein once said, “Science without religion is blind, and religion without science is lame”.
2019-05-30 00:50:11 UTC
Idiots a catholic monk founded this idea
?
2019-05-29 17:39:38 UTC
If you would like to learn about the Big Bang try taking a few semesters of cosmology or physics at your local University and not from a church.
?
2019-05-29 15:30:18 UTC
(No longer an atheist, but...) In the final analysis, the Big Bang Theory is no more than Divine Creation without the Divine part. Creating order de novo is not something anybody really understands - though many pretend to. To paraphrase Milton Friedman. "We are all creationists now."
2019-05-29 12:54:42 UTC
Friend, it is written that God has 'given them over to a strong delusion'.



Although seeing, they CAN'T see.

The truth is a foreign language to them.



Please read and obey the divine, supernatural instuctions in Psalm 37 for peace about this.

(Or you become a catalyst for more evil.)
Doubting Like Thomas
2019-05-29 12:52:39 UTC
Once upon a time (except that there was no time), nothing existed.

And then, something which ALWAYS existed said "Let there be light."

Which caused light ( and time and space) to begin to exist.

And then this Something continued to make other things out of nothing.

And then this Something made a mudpie in the shape of an ape, and POOF!, created a human.



How many OTHER stories of the origin of the planet did any of you study, before publicly proclaiming that the ancient Hebrew one deserves to be honoured as the "Least Silly" of the lot?
A Nonny Mouse
2019-05-29 08:16:53 UTC
How could I? My disbelief in deities doesn't automatically give me a doctorate in astro-physics, does it?



It may be hard for you to follow this, but please try and concentrate: only theists and religionists are so arrogant that they think they have the answer to everything in their god - non-believers are happy to admit that we don't know everything (but we are willing to learn). If it's easier for you to think some intergalactic sky pixie poofed everything into existence than it is to try and follow the complex science-based explanations, then that's your choice. But just remember - if your god DID create everything (because EVERYTHING must have a creator) then who or what created your god?



I'll leave that one there....
?
2019-05-29 01:30:23 UTC
And how, praytell, would you describe a finite, unbounded, expanding hyperspatial manifold using a geometry that *doesn't* originate with a singularity at its temporal origin point?



What's the alternative? An initial state with a nonzero spatial volume and a peculiar material distribution? How? Why that particular distribution? Why that particular volume? And how can a spatial geometry with a size of X constitute a temporal state where X>0 with future state Y where Y>X without a correlating past state Z where Z0?



There's a reason that running the timeline backwards leads to its logical conclusion rather than it arbitrarily not. The Big Bang Theory is the only explanation that *does* make any sense, which is a good thing, since it is so thoroughly and extensively corroborated by the evidence that it can be considered proven beyond any plausible refute.
Tom S
2019-05-28 15:53:57 UTC
There are many observations which show that space is expanding. The BB theory addresses that observed fact.
Donut Tim
2019-05-28 15:36:25 UTC
The big bang is not related to atheism.



The big bang is the expansion of the universe and is still visibly in progress. Sometimes the phrase big bang is used to mean the “start” of the expansion.



(One should not confuse the big bang with a possible origin of the universe. There is no evidence for or against the universe having an infinitely long past.)
quantumclaustrophobe
2019-05-28 15:22:09 UTC
I'm not an atheist, but the Big Bang simply describes the motion seen when looking at clusters of galaxies in the universe. In every direction, they seem to be moving away from us. In his description of what he found, Edwin Hubble mentioned that these clusters were like "fragments of a bomb".

It's simply an observation; it's repeatable, and verified. What "sense" it makes comes from these observations, and the 'Big Bang' is simply the best fit for the evidence.



But, it's just a theory... if you have a better explanation for the observations... please present it.
Vulcan
2019-05-28 14:44:32 UTC
it had to start some how
2019-05-28 14:38:01 UTC
Compared to simply ,"God created the universe "



Gee that's tough .
2019-05-28 13:47:52 UTC
You want a university education from Y!A? Good luck with that one kid.
the internet
2019-05-28 13:47:23 UTC
No.



The big bang as an explanation for how (not why!) the world started might be totally wrong, and it would still not mean that the story about your god or any other story about any other god might be true.



Not knowing something, in this case not knowing why the universe expands or how it started or why it started, does not mean that magic is real or that stories about gods are true. It just means that there are things we don't know yet.



Your problem is that you never learned how to clearly tell fantasy and reality apart.
megalomaniac
2019-05-28 13:43:02 UTC
This isn't a question for atheists. It's not even about religion at all, it's a science question. The only thing that atheists have a position on is that there isn't enough evidence to believe in any gods.



I'm not even convinced that your question is honest and you actually want to learn about the big bang, but just in case here you go:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
Luke
2019-05-31 14:40:38 UTC
The galaxies are moving away from each other. From that we can infer they used to be much closer together.



But if you're really determined not to understand it I'm sure you will succeed.
Vincent
2019-05-30 16:54:53 UTC
I don’t believe in the big bang, nor do I believe in god. I don’t know what to believe in
?
2019-05-29 21:43:00 UTC
I'm a God-fearing Catholic and the "Big Bang" falls well within the bounds of plausibility.
David
2019-05-29 21:02:50 UTC
As opposed to the flying spaghetti monster?
?
2019-05-29 19:40:39 UTC
How can I explain "colour" to a blind man?



as for you - why should I? - if you think it dont make sense then be my guest



as for me

I got 2 options

1) the big bang

2) the universe (and everything) was created by a supernatural entity existing nowhere from nothing using magic



To me 1) makes a hellova lot more sense than 2)

you gotta be nuts if you think 2) makes more sense
wombatfreaks
2019-05-29 16:37:44 UTC
As I am sure you must know, no reason to address this question just to atheists, there are more people of faith who accept and understand the basic premise of the Big Bang than the total number of atheists alive.



Do not assume all people of faith are anti education and anti science
Jackolantern
2019-05-29 14:20:44 UTC
The Big Bang was not invented by atheists. They know no more about where the cosmos started than theist.
?
2019-05-29 12:59:57 UTC
Since the speed of light is finite, as we look out in distance we are looking out in time. Looking out billions of lightyears, we see the Big Bang unfolding. The Big Bang theory is OBSERVED TO BE TRUE.
wobafetty
2019-05-29 07:53:29 UTC
Like a christian can't prove god created everything, an atheist can only theorise on the big bang. It's the most accepted possibility, it's not the only one. The difference is the big bang is literally called a theory, Christians believe god creating everything is an absolute fact. While at the same time only bringing their faith in god to the table. This alone defies logic. Faith is not fact, it's basically ignorantly following a single possibility like a sheep, minus any real proof. I agree in a lot of ways pure atheists can be very ignorant in their standing. Like many Christians do with their gods, many atheists believe theories are absolute facts. My view on the matter is that if you can't prove that god exists, you likely lack the tools to disprove that god exists at the same time. That's logic. Lesser in fact, it's common sense. This rarely seen in both atheists and Christians/religious people in general.
Special EPhex
2019-05-29 01:11:28 UTC
The big bang is not an atheist concept, but is widely accepted by the scientific community because it has been revealed to be the earliest signature of anything tangible, in our universe, our material instruments and equations can calculate. The general idea is that it is as far back as our observations can detect, but it doesn't suggest that there wasn't anything before the big bang. The evidence is repeatedly demonstrable, but the big bang remain a theory, only because we cannot physically detect a 'source'.



Science does not include God as a valid explanation of things, because science is intended to investigate the linear domain of material form and 'content' (component, specifics details), and cannot register the nonlinear essence of formless 'context' (meaning, significance, implications). This is how materialist examine the "origins of existence" through the big bang, using the same exact science that tells them that the nature of our cosmos is to 'conserve itself, by 'Universal Law'.



'To exist' is fundamentally a nonlinear expression, as energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, only made to change form; which would imply that our existence is 'eternal' and 'uncaused', and not unlike an 'Omnipresent God' without "beginning" and "end". The opening passages of the Book of Genesis suggest that the presence of God would mean that existence, 'already exists'. The Bible explains the 'origins of from', as it says God made the "heavens and earth" from the 'formlessness' of "darkness and void", before saying, "Let there be light".



This is why I accept the Steady State Theory of the universe, which hypothesizes an endless cycle of expansions and contractions. The Big Bang Theory, likely explains the transition between phases between the previous universe and the present one. God has left us clues to the discovery of a 'Divine Existence'. Science allows us to follow the "trail of bread crumbs" but doesn't tell us what we're looking at, once we get to the end. Atheists and secularists misinterpret the absence of God in science as 'lack of existence', which leads theists to wrongfully reject science.
robin_lionheart
2019-05-28 21:19:13 UTC
If you really wish to understand the Big Bang, there are many books on the subject. Simon Singh’s _Big Bang: The most important scientific discovery of all time and why you need to know about it_ might be a good starting place for you.



Incidentally, atheism has nothing to do with cosmology. "Atheists" isn't a synonym for "scientists".
ReductioAdAstronomicus
2019-05-28 21:15:20 UTC
Theist, it is not obliged to make sense. Some theists and some atheists make the mistake of believing that everything revolves around one of the millions of species on Earth known as Homo sapien. This distorted way of thinking is called anthropocentricism. The universe will not even start to make sense until you break out of it.



Astronomers (both theist ones and atheist ones) have been observing the universe for hundreds of years, and during this time they have collected a lot of data. The big bang theory is the only theory that is quantitatively consistent with all known data.



Don't let yourself get confused by uninformed people. The big bang theory says nothing about what caused the big bang (if indeed it had a cause), and says nothing about what was before it.
?
2019-05-28 20:32:00 UTC
Why are you asking Atheists a Science Question?

Why are you asking a Science Question in the Religious section?

The Big Bang is a theory on how the Universe was formed. Just a Theory. There are plenty of Scientific Theories that don't make any sense.
sparrow
2019-05-28 16:11:59 UTC
God said, "Let there be light", and BOOM ! , there was light !

Actually, the reason they believe there was a big bang is because they

discovered that the stars and other celestial bodies are moving rapidly away from us.

So they imagined playing that tape backwards, and realized that at some point

in the past, the Universe must have been much more compressed.

I see no reason why the Big bang should contradict God.

I believe in God and the big bang
Zeccheus
2019-05-28 16:00:34 UTC
Not sure how they are related
?
2019-05-28 14:27:06 UTC
Atheists don't believe in God or the devil.

Their are a lot of good atheists on here.

Lets be kind, lets show love for God is love.
2019-05-28 13:50:14 UTC
Sure. It matches up with the observational evidence.such as cosmological red shift and the cosmic microwave background.
2019-05-28 13:49:29 UTC
.What does this question have to do with atheism? Seeing as how the BB was first postulated by a Christians why not ask them?
Should've been you
2019-05-28 13:49:16 UTC
The Big Bang is just a series of observations we have made about the conditions of the universe for a time. It doesn't address origins or first causes.
Mandrake
2019-05-28 13:47:17 UTC
We can observe the universe expanding over time, with galaxies moving away from each other at speeds which dwarf even the speed of light.



That means that, if you hit the reverse button on time, you get a contracting universe, with galaxies moving toward each other.



Also means that, at a point in the past, you have an incredibly compressed universe.



Pretty straightforward.
?
2019-05-29 14:36:26 UTC
1-universe = 1-universe.

the buddhist teachings believe the universe has always existed for an infinite time, and continues to live in a cycle of birth, aging, decline, and death. this cycle continues lifetime-after-lifetime.

while the human life cycle is short, the life of the universe is eternal, without being or end.

the things we have in our current universe are the effects of the causes made by the universe in its previous lives.
drake
2019-05-29 04:52:44 UTC
The cosmic microwave background radiation is a clear baby picture of the universe. Looking carefully at the cmbr, expanding the matter from that period in the universe to the size of the current observable universe, it would look like our universe does today. Now I beg you to understand, this is not proof of the Big Bang but just proof that the cmbr is a baby picture of the universe. Scientists say the cmbr is a picture of the universe 375,000 years after the Big Bang. Plus the universe is expanding. And most of the matter in the universe is hydrogen.
PhotonX
2019-05-28 23:27:37 UTC
As I'm sure you've been told countless times before, it isn't up to atheists to explain science to willfully ignorant dullards. Ask a scientist, not an atheist. The problem with your reasoning, if it can be called that, is that even if you could prove without a shred of doubt that both the Big Bang and biological evolution were impossible, you still wouldn't be one millimeter closer to demonstrating that invisible supernatural beings exist, never mind the utterly absurd claims of a young Earth and global flood.

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Rabia
2019-05-28 20:53:20 UTC
and please watch cosmos too xD


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