Question:
Atheist arguments shot down. What are your thoughts?
2007-10-27 00:25:35 UTC
If Christianity is not true, then how do you explain all the Biblical prophecies that were predicted HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of years before they happened?

If it is not true, then how do you explain the Book of Revelations and the dangerous (through nuclear weapons in North Korea and possibly Iran) situation we are in?

If it is not true, how do you explain out of body experiences?

If it is not true, how do you explain the feeling of the Holy Spirit?

If it is not true, how do you explain ghost sightings?

Please answer EVERY SINGLE QUESTION IN DETAIL. Do not dodge this. I care about you. I want you to examine your beliefs. I do not do this out of hate, but out of concern. I hope you find Jesus and he touches your heart.

We all deserve Hell. We are all sinners, but God so loved the world that He gave His only Son so that if we accept His sacrifice we might be washed clean and saved from Hell. Jesus is the only way.

God bless.
37 answers:
Liesel
2007-10-28 22:27:24 UTC
If the stuff that you mentioned never happened, I'm sure you would just find some way to apply the "prophecies" to some other event in history. The Book of Revelations is kind of flexible that way.



Liesel.
2007-10-27 01:16:25 UTC
Oh, for Pete's sake!



How do we explain the biblical prophecies? The same way skeptics explain away the alleged accuracy of an astrological reading or a tarot fortune teller's predictions for love and career. If you want it to fit your beliefs, you'll make them fit even if you have to use a crow bar.



Out off body experiences? Hell, I can have an OOBE from taking cough medicine! Any number of reasons can cause it without blaming it on god! A vivid imagination is a good excuse for floating around in your sleep!



"Feeling" the Holy Spirit? I "feel" my favourite hockey team's spirit every playoffs but it doesn't make them divine! If I took the five year old next door out for a walk in the lakeshore park and asked her if she stood real still, could she "feel" Mother Nature making the Autumn come, she'd say yes in a snap. It's all the power of suggestion and desire.



And ghost sightings? What does that have to do with Christianity? I've never seen a ghost except on Friday night TV. Nobody else has really solid proof of ghosts either although I do believe int them because I like the creepy aspect of the idea.



I DO NOT deserve hell! I am NOT a SINNER and I'm getting fed up with Christians telling me I am! Sin is a crock! I don't do ANYTHING sinful! I'm a really great woman with a big heart and hardly ever a harsh thought for most people.



I don't need saving, and if you continue to think that way about me, (a person you don't even know) you're going to bring bad luck down on me.



STOP THINKING ABOUT SAVING ME! BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING!



Thank you.

.
Joshua C
2007-10-27 00:35:05 UTC
Prophecies: They're things written in a book, things that I will never experience because they supposedly happened centuries before I was born. Believing the Bible isn't believing in God, it's trusting the choices of the council of Nicaea, the council which decided what scripture would go into the Bible and what would not. Imagine these 12 men (flawed, fallible humans) deciding what was "divine truth" and what was not. If you think you can trust people who were called to council to resolve conflicts for the Roman Empire, then good on you. I don't.



Out of Body Experiences: I don't remember these being mentioned in the Bible, in fact you are the first Christian I've heard of who doesn't denounce them as absolute heresy.



I explain the feeling of the Holy Spirit as a feeling, nothing more. If you feel it, it's easy to believe. If you don't, then you will never, ever know. It's subjective, and thus is incapable of proving or disproving anything.



Ghosts: Again, you're the first Christian I've ever seen who doesn't think ghosts are the devil's work. I can't explain ghosts, and having never seen one myself I can safely say I'm still waiting for the proof on that one.





Hopefully that sufficiently answered your questions.
rowlfe
2007-10-27 00:54:31 UTC
I do not have to explain ANYTHING. YOU do. Show me some proof that God exists which will stand up in a court of law. Do NOT quote the bible as that is what is called hearsay in the courts. No one can prove authenticity of the accounts in the bible. There are inconsistencies in the bible which blatantly contradict each other. The bible was written from oral history handed down from one generation to the next, and could have very well been embellished along the way, or even more likely, misremembered. You have no concrete proof. I have no concrete proof otherwise. Until you can SHOW ME, you have no claim on anything. And besides, even if there is a GOD, then this deity MADE me as I am, doubts and all, and therefore, I will be saved in spite of myself because God made me this way! How could God doom me if he made me this way? It's NOT my fault! Can God make a rock so big he could not move it? How can such a kind and benevolent deity do such cruel and evil things as apparently your God has done? How about wiping out everything except for Noah and the Ark? Were there NO other good people on the Earth? How could God even MAKE such a mistake? What about the Tsunami and Hurricane Katrina? If these events were in God's plan, I want no part of a God who could inflict such suffering on innocents, or are you saying the victims of these catastrophic events were not innocents? What about the events of 9/11? Was the bringing down of the twin towers in God's plan? When you come up to a stoplight and it turns green when you get there, you thank God for a miracle , but what did you do on 9/11 when the towers fell? You bible thumpers make me tired... All you have to do is one simple thing, show me proof which will hold up in a court and I will become a true believer... Faith is simply NOT good enough. Faith is unreasoned belief... Your God causes untold pain and suffering and all you have to fall back on is "It's God's Plan" and for me, that is just not good enough. If God is so good, why do SO many bad things keep on happening? Still, I WANT to believe. I just find it SO hard...
oketak
2007-10-27 01:05:21 UTC
Actually prophecies are just a selective perception of ours. U select some facts that u want to believe. For example: If u go to see a fortune teller and they tell u a vague message like "u'll have a visitor with very bright aura this month". after a month several things happened :

1. u really have a visit from an old friend.

2. u hit a lottery jackpot.

3. u dreamt of an angel

4. u met a new girlfriend / boyfriend

5. u escaped from a terrible accident

6. MTV people came to u and offered to pimp your ride.

u can use any of the above example to match the prophecy of the fortune teller. The problem with prophecy is vagueness. If u can show me one prophecy that tell the exact time, exact event with disambiguation, then that prophecy will be valid, if it is open to interpretation then it is no prophecy.....
2007-10-27 00:34:49 UTC
A: Prophecies are so generalized you could fit many different events to the prophecies. It proves nothing, and I could debate you on whether ANY of them have been fulfilled.

B:What? I have read Revelations many times and there is NOTHING in there about N.Korea or Iran furthermore as to the "Dangerous" situation we are in it is again so generalized that you could fit it to nearly ANY dangerous situation.

C:OBE's are NOT a christian phenomenon and cannot be proved at all whatsoever. They should be VERY EASY to prove however to date it has not been possible.

D:I get similar feelings from music, movies,reading a book, or even a good poop. A feeling is proof of NOTHING.

E:Ghost sightings go against biblical interpretations of the here after and also as of yet have no proof behind them. More than likely they are caused by natural phenomenon as similar results have been obtained by proximity to power lines strong electromagnetic fields etc.





Anyhow... youre an idiot.
2007-10-27 00:35:51 UTC
1) I just recently asked a Christian on here to point me to some of these alleged "fulfilled prophecies", and she kindly provided me with a website where I found a nice long list, which I've looked through. Sorry, but they're no more convincing than Nostradamus or Edgar Casey.



2) What does Revelations have to do with North Korea or Iran? I've read Revelations a few times, and I honestly don't remember any mention of nucs, or, for that matter, either of those countries, explicitly or, as far as I could tell, implicitly.



3) Out of body experiences? You've got to be kidding me. They're, um, not real. I've yet to see a scientific study of any kind demonstrate that there's anything to them other than delusions on the part of the subject.



4) The feeling of the Holy Spirit? You said not to "dodge" any question, but this seems just utterly ridiculous. To my knowledge, the presence of the "Holy Spirit" hasn't been scientifically supported.



5) Ghost sitings? As with the last two questions, there is virtually no credible scientific evidence to support the existence of ghosts. The "ghost" phenomenon seems to consist entirely of amusing anecdotes, mistaken identification, wishful thinking, delusions, and deliberate hoaxes.



Feel free to email me if you see that I'm mistaken in any of my details. Perhaps I've missed a new ground-breaking study that strongly supports the existence of the Holy Spirit.
2007-10-27 00:30:28 UTC
Okay first of all, i can tell that u are deeply convinced of this. I am not trying to start an arguement here, im only answering your question; which is to examine all the details and point out opposing view. 1)biblical prophesies are vague and can be interpreted in many ways, it does not specifically state dates or events; because of this it is hard to pinpoint if prophesies have actually come true or not. 2) like in #1, the book of prophesies does not specifically state The North Korea and Iran deal. It could be interpretted differently. 3) Obe or Out of body experiances were scientifically proven a few months back to be a misfire of electical impulses in your brain. It happens when the mind tries to locate its whereabouts using abstract senses, in otherwords when we're in a state of isolation from senses. Nothing supernatural about it. Actually makes sense. 3) The feeling of the Holy spirit is something that u have individually, no one else can feel it like u, therefore it may not actually be the holy spirit. Just a strong sense of faith. 4) ghostly sightings are condemmened in the bible, it states that souls cannot return from the etherworld and that sightings are all demons. No one can be sure of this, because we are still unsure if ghosts exist or not. i hope this helps, remember im not trying to argue against u, just try to see it from the skeptics point of view ok?
2007-10-27 00:32:22 UTC
"Biblical prophecies that were predicted HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of years before they happened?"



Such as? I'd like a few examples.



"how do you explain the Book of Revelations and the dangerous (through nuclear weapons in North Korea and possibly Iran) situation we are in?"



I don't believe Revelations has any content with North Korea or any knowledge of nuclear weaponry.



"If it is not true, how do you explain out of body experiences?"

Easy. Science. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience)



"If it is not true, how do you explain the feeling of the Holy Spirit?"

What 'feeling' of the Holy Spirit? I've never had anything like that, nor know anyone who did.



"If it is not true, how do you explain ghost sightings?"



Perceptions can be easily mistaken, or maybe ghosts do exist.. :P
kwxilvr
2007-10-27 00:38:43 UTC
Dreamstuff, you get a gold star in my book. Excellent response!



I'll add some amunition: the question is packaged in fallacy. To state, "If X is not true, then Y must of course be true" does not lend any credibility to position Y (in the absense of sufficient evidence). And there is no evidence given to support the claims above. For example, the Book of Revelation is about as useful as the prophecies of Nostradamous: useless.



The good thing about studying skepticism is that it becomes easier to recognize fallacies and the nonsense they often attempt to dress up as rational argument. Dude, you ain't got no clothes on!



It's times like this when I'm proud to be an atheist and not have to cart around a bunch of nonsense junk in my head. I just have to carry a good knife to cut away the fallacies I come across.
Trickster
2007-10-27 00:33:11 UTC
Some of them were propehsized by pagans and were stolen by the people who wrote the bible.

History repeats itself. There have been many times that humans have been in danger of aniliating them selves.

A paranormal experience or really good shrooms

Spirits that have things they must do on this plane before going to the summerland.....or if they died violently, their imprint is left on this plane.

The Holy Spirit, for me anyway, can be explained by saying it is my Goddess. According to the priest that used to teach me, the holy spirit is a female entity. So, the Lady Bast is also female.

And don't tell me I do not know what I am talking about. I was studying to be a nun before I married and became a wiccan.

Blessed Be
NO Labels
2007-10-27 00:55:06 UTC
the bible is compiled and written from prophecy just as Nostradamus wrote prophecy... but the bible was written specifically to hide prophecy... the man called Jesus didn't even come the first time yet... but the prophecy reports it as if it were done 2000 years ago... the message he is supose to deliver is to destroy religions... the human collecting these prophecies inspires and controls the catholic church... there is two sides to the story but only the religious side ever gets told... the church used these prophecies to find those who prophecy and set out to dicredit the church... that is what the burning of heretics, the crusades, and inquisitions are about...(I've read parts of the catholic bible.. they are full of violent take over plans, not prophecies but plans) eventually came other men as evil as the one of the catholic church... these created the christian churches very much in the same pattern of the catholics... that's when the battle begins to heat up... back to the man refered to as jesus... he is prophecied to come and give the human race the missing information.. which would destroy religions... the crusifixion isn't a prophecy his coming is... the crusifixion is a plan of murder... meaning a false prophecy.. he won't get executed... for by now he knows who he is... but the christian world is already polarized to hate, demean, and destroy him if they can... this is how the devil has been able to enslave the world... by murdering one true prophet at a time and instilling his plans..refered to as false prophecies.... Today I heard someone ask what is the signs of the beast's reign on the earth... out of body experiences,how do you explain the feeling of the Holy Spirit,how do you explain ghost sightings, the Bermuda triangle is also another one.. for they all denote damage done to nature.. "and Satan will be called god of the earth" and everyone promoting religion is one who defends him... and the damage is enormous... in the prophecies there is also "the woman of the wilderness" she will posess the knowlege that would heal nature itself.. and we just began that part of the prophecy... she is the woman condemned through out the bible.. for the devil sought to discredit her before she came .... she grew up persecuted.. even by her familly... the original black sheep.. so by the time she's an adult she's good at surviving the devil's persecution... and her work saved the man that would bring us information that would destroy religion... and god..(or the illusion of god) forever... now as these two combine effort and information.. nature will begin to heal... and he has a lot more information to give us...



why is it christians are quick to condemn information comming out not of the church... because their all knowing god is a fraud... and that non religious people do better at everything proves he's a fraud so he's quick to send christians to discredit all information until he could destroy it or take credit for it...
2007-10-27 00:44:23 UTC
Did you also read in the revelation of the one untrue religion created by the beast, Well your US bibles have been revised and edited in 1992, removing all the true Christian values. To create a hateful and racist towards all other Christian beliefs by being harshly opinionated to unbelievers and homophobic to all who wont bare children to join the new Christian religion that will destroy the planet by ignorance. This new Christian religion is white anting and becoming very strong in the United States. By fear of spreading the message of the end of the world to have more join this religion.
Tea
2007-10-27 00:45:08 UTC
I answered all of these questions one of the other times you asked them. I really don't think you even read people's answers. If you have read my answer just now, please comment and say so in your added details. If you don't comment, then it will show everyone who answers that you're only preaching and not even willing to hear what they have to say.



I really think your heart and mind are completely closed and you are stuck in the arrogant idea that only you could be right about the creator. I feel sorry for folks like you.



Edit: Well, since it has been over a day and you have not confirmed that you did indeed read my comment, it has become very obvious that you are what I suspected you to be: a "Preacher Man". You don't want answers, you just want people to listen to your spiel. Sorry, but it's not Sunday and since your sermon is not even mediocre, don't bother passing the offering plate.
2007-10-27 00:34:01 UTC
1. Book of revelation is a very vague book which can twisted to anything. BTW, we do not need that book to know we are in dangerous situation. The book of revelation did not prophecies any of those.



2. There is no true out of body experiences, just hallucinations due to shortage of blood.



3. That is call placebo effect, just like praying.



4. Hallucination, if there are concrete evidences, it would be big news now.



You deserve hell to believe in imaginary creature that created this hell for people who believe it.
2007-10-27 00:36:35 UTC
1.Those prophecies are extremely vague, they could have meant anything and it would still seem to add up.

2.Aren't there always going to be dangerous situations all the time?

3.This was disproven, out of body experience is nothing but an illusion; scientists simulated the same effect on a test subject by stimulating a certain region in his brain. However, its natural occurence is usually a brain's response to crisis. Are you even aware of all the emotion and and sensation chemicals going off in your brain in time of fear or near death??? It makes you see and feel all sorts of crazy stuff, like LSD.

4.Holy Spirit- your powerful belief in the "holy spirit" induces emotions (for example, if I told you a lie that your mother died, would you not feel bad even though it's not true? your belief causes your emotions)

5.ghost sightings- brain's irrational response to fear of the unknown, causing fright induced hallucinations; or perhaps mental illness



End conclusion; IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD, HUMANS ARE SLAVES TO THEIR OWN IMAGINATIONS.



How was that?
just curious (A.A.A.A.)
2007-10-27 00:37:50 UTC
on biblical prophecies being fulfilled... give me one account of said prophecies being fulfilled by a contemporary of jesus outside of the bible and i'll accept them as fact.



out of body experiences... are you referring to near death experiences? in any case, i consider it hallucinations. you are familiar with the term, aren't you?



on the feeling of the holy spirit... i think the last explanation pretty much sums that up as well...



ghost sightings... the mind sees what it wants to see. look at the clouds. do you see shapes of things you are familiar with? it's human nature. perhaps a curtain blowing in the wind might look like a ghost in dim lighting... who's to say?



does that answer all your questions?



and furthermore, no crime or sin for that matter merits a person a lifetime of torture. anyone who believes this is sick?
Johnny M
2007-10-27 00:31:43 UTC
i can see you are asking this question with an open mind (sarcasm) i could talk to the wall and it would have more reasoning ability than you on this question.





And i'm not Atheist.



atheists call the holy ghost feeling...karma



what do ghost sighting have to do with religon? many atheist belive we all share the same spirit.



the 'biblical' prophecies are very vague and can be applied conviently anytime the power figures in a religon feel they need to tighten down their control over the congregations



Iran is George Bush 1, 2, and ronald reagan's mess you leave God and the Bible out of that mess
punch
2007-10-28 09:22:05 UTC
I don't. Prophesies are BS. And the other stuff may be explained be science. I may not have all the answers, but I do know that saying god did it sure isn't going to answer them. Any real proof of god? no, I didn't think so.
Ben
2007-10-27 00:33:37 UTC
Sorry, I don't have the time or patience to answer your bullsh*t questions. Out of body experiences? Ghosts? You actually believe such hogwash? Go ahead. Tell me you believe in ET and Bigfoot too.



Here's an idea: Go to a library and read! If you just pick up some real books and you'll find the answers.
chilicooker_mkb
2007-10-27 00:49:49 UTC
As a rule I don't usuallaly answer questions from idiots like you. However some of your questions intrigued me. Exactly what biblical phrophecies are you referring to? next..Out of body experiences are from people that think they are dying. If I think I'm dying I'll probably conjure up old memories too..I've never felt "the holy spirit"..and as far as ghosts..I've never seen one and if I ever do..I'll introduce myself and hope they reciprocate. I'm chilicooker_mkb.
duffolson
2007-10-27 00:54:45 UTC
10The disciples came to Jesus and asked him, `Why do you tell the people these stories?'



11Jesus answered them, `You can learn the secret things about the kingdom of heaven. But they cannot learn them.



12Anyone who already has something will get more, and he will have plenty. But he who does not have anything, even the little that he has will be taken away from him.



13That is why I tell them stories. They look, but they do not see. They listen, but they do not hear or understand.



14They make what Isaiah the prophet said long ago, come true. `Isaiah said: "You will listen and listen, but you will not understand. You will look and look, but you will not see.



15The hearts of these people have no feeling. They do not hear well with their ears. And they have shut their eyes. They do not want to see with their eyes. They do not want to hear with their ears. They do not want to understand in their hearts. They do not want to turn to me. If they did turn, I would heal them."



matthew 13.10-15
2007-10-27 00:39:53 UTC
I do not feel like explaining once more where my beliefs lie. I would however ask you for proof of your assertations. I do not believe that i deserve an eternity of suffering, thank you very much. Please tell me what i (or anyone for that matter) have done to deserve such a thing.
Loosid
2007-10-27 00:36:24 UTC
The bible says in the end times Russia and Iran will combine forces and try to annhiliate Israel which will start the Gog Magog war. Its crystal in the Word about this. I too wish more eyes would open to this glaring revelation. Gods peace to you :)
2007-10-27 00:29:47 UTC
Sigh...



Question 1: Give me an example

Question 2: Revelations mentioned nukes?

Question 3: Prove it

Question 4: Prove it

Question 5: Grow up.
Daisy Indigo
2007-10-27 00:30:43 UTC
Where in the Bible does it say that North Korea will have nuclear weapons?
Dethklok
2007-10-27 00:30:04 UTC
My first attempt would be that those prophecies meant for the world to end about 2 thousand years ago.... yet here we are.
ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT••
2007-10-27 00:35:28 UTC
1) Vague "prophecies" are easy to fulfill.

2) Ditto.

3)-5) Our nervous system and our imperfect interpretations



God doesn't exist.



Good evening to you.
2007-10-27 00:30:03 UTC
You can find coherent logical explanations to all of these age old tired and meaningless questions if you would bother to read a book on atheism before you aproach atheists.



Don't waste our time.
2007-10-27 00:30:21 UTC
Amen
2007-10-27 00:29:30 UTC
How do you explain a virgin having a child?

How do you explain walking on water?

How do you explain any of the fictional out-of-whack bible stories?
9_ladydi
2007-10-27 00:31:32 UTC
Those are some hard hitting questions. You are asking non-believers to do some really deep soul searching. I hope you get some decent answers back without all the name calling. Good Luck.
2007-10-27 00:29:16 UTC
I'm sure they'll explain away the NDE's and feeling of the Holy Spirit as delusions or lies, but they can't do that with the prophecies.
sundertheshadows
2007-10-29 15:55:51 UTC
Yes well not every prophecy is in Revelations. First the Rapture shall occur and the true followers of Jesus shall meet in heaven too receive their crowns for their Christian services. The Antichrist aka abomination that makes desolation. The 7 year tribulation shall commence once Israel signs a peace treaty for 7 years. Once that happens the judgments shall commence. The first is the seven seals of the scroll opened by Jesus. By order of the treaty of the Antichrist the Jews are now allowed to build their Temple. During this time because God has such bountiful grace and mercy he dispatched 144,000 Jewish evangelicals out of the 12 tribes of Israel 12,000 each Tribe to proclaim the gospel AND MANY shall be saved. God shall also dispatch the 2 witnesses to preach their testimony for 1,260 or 3 ½ years, these witnesses are indestructible during this time they will command fire to come from the sky as well as shut the sky to inhibit rain from falling and execute as many plagues and torments as often as they wish. Some speculate that it shall be Moses and Elijah, we know it shall be Elijah as written in Malachi 4:5. Then the seven trumpets of Judgment shall commence which are worse than the 7 seal of the scroll. During this time while Israel is in their false sense of Security Rogue nations that harbor hatred towards them shall do a sneak attack on them this is prophesied in Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 know as the Prophecy Against Gog. It is when Russia, Ethiopia, Libya, Iran, Turkey and other nations try to wipe Israel of the map but to no avail for God obliterates them in his wrath and hot anger. During the first half of tribulations the false world religion controls everything even the Beast of the Sea. Also some of the Jews heeding the warning of the Jewish Evangelicals shall be suspicious and disillusioned by the antichrist (world Leader) and flee to the ancient Ruins of Petra/Bozrah there they shall be supernaturally protected by God. While the raptured followers of Jesus are given their crown they are pestered by the Devil accusing them they are not worthy to be saved but his accusation (Satan) are in Vain. God having enough of his dribble and comments from the peanut gallery expels Satan out of the atmospheric heaven. When the midpoint of the tribulation comes about the antichrist shall slay the two witnesses and the whole world is so morally bankrupt that they shall rejoice over their death and even give gifts to each other. After 3 ½ days they shall come back to life and a voice from heaven shall say “come” and a cloud ascend them both to heaven while their enemies look below a tenth of Jerusalem is destroyed by an earthquake and 7,000 people are killed via earthquake worldwide. Then the antichrist shall sit himself on the throne and proclaim himself to be “god” and demand worship. The beast out of the Earth (False Prophet) shall make sure everyone accepts the mark of the beast failure to accept it means you cannot buy or sell and you shall be beheaded. This will separate the true Christians from the pseudo-Christians. During this time God in his mercy shall do something that has never been done before!!! He shall dispatch 3 powerful angels in the guise of humans to preach the everlasting gospel. They will adamantly stress and warn that those who accept the mark of the beast shall partake the winepress of God’s wrath. This means accepting the mark of the beast is THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN!!!!!!!! Once the Antichrist sit on the throne and declares himself as “god” then the wrath of Sovereign Lord will reach its zenith and his boiling anger shall commence the 7 bowls of his wrath which is worse than the seven seals of the scroll and the 7 trumpets of Judgment. Babylon shall be rebuilt and all commerce shall be transferred to there as in total opposition of God. Babylon is finally destroyed. The heavens rejoiced at its destruction. Jerusalem shall be taken over and then the nations meet at the valley of Megiddo or known as Armageddon. After Israel recognized its national sin the rejection of Jesus they pray for 2 days and the Lord hears their prayers and Jesus comes back by landing his feat on the Mount of Olives Zechariah 14:3-5. Jesus shall defeat the antichrist and his forces by uttering the word of God and for 1,600 stadias or 2,000 miles up to the horses’ bridle the whole valley of Megiddo shall be a sea of blood thus written in the book of Isaiah 63:1-6. Everyone but the antichrist and false prophet have been turned into fodder by Jesus. The antichrist and false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire tormented day and night. Blessed are those who make it to 1,335 gays what does that mean Daniel 12:11-12. It means that a saved Christian or Jew that accepted Jesus as their savior are invited to the millennium. From the period of the abomination that makes (midpoint of the tribulations) desolation of the temple to the end of that shall be 1,260 days plus 45 days to purify the Earth from the grievous damage and filth and plus 75 days to judge the nations treatment towards Israel the parting of the sheep and goats the sheep are allowed to enter the millennial kingdom governed by Jesus that equals 1,335 days!! This is the kingdom that was in Daniel 2:44-45 that is the millennial kingdom!! At this time Satan shall be bound in the bottomless pit so he may not tempt for the next 1,000 years. Creation shall be radically changed as the Adamic curse shall be partially lifted there shall be new healthy bodies at that time disease is no more. People can live for 1,000 years!! Nature shall be transformed and wild animals shall be tamed and we all shall be pretty much vegetarians as written in the book Isaiah 65:17-25 However great that is people are still going to rebel as written in Isaiah 65:20 !! Even under utopia conditions via Jesus people shall go against Jesus. Satan shall be released and the rebels will be destroyed by fire from God. Those who are at the Great white Throne are not saved and are not written in The book of life they are thrown in the lake of fire forever and the ones who are saved are in bliss with God and Jesus in the new heaven and Earth. Praise the Lord Jesus!!



P.S. Rowlfe you who does not believe in God it is written:



Psalm 14:1



1 The fool [a] says in his heart,

"There is no God."

They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;

there is no one who does good.



And Jesus said in Matthew 12:38-39



38Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." (Sounds like Rowlfe the very smart scoffing skeptic who thinks he is so smart)

3

9He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
2007-10-27 00:29:10 UTC
It's "Revelation", so you're already wrong and don't know what you're talking about.



Declare victory, leave and be smug.



*Shaking head*
2007-10-27 00:29:19 UTC
hold on, I'll go check Nostradamus's predictions, he did the same thing, does that make him god?
2007-10-27 00:29:16 UTC
Lame... just very, very lame.


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