Question:
What do you think of Hitler's secret plot to steal the Shroud of Turin during WW2 for satanic means?
The Holy Shroud of Turin
2013-08-13 12:58:27 UTC
Hitler was obsessed with the occult - the Nazi swastika has long been considered a black magic symbol while he was also devoted to German composer Richard Wagner who was said to be a Satanist.



Adolf Hitler wanted to steal the Turin Shroud during World War II, an Italian monk has claimed.
But the Vatican helped hide the cloth relic, on which is scorched the image of Christ's face, in a rural monastery to keep it out of the clutches of the Fuhrer.

To protect the Shroud from Hitler, Vatican officials and the Italian royal family ordered that it be locked away in a southern Italian Benedictine monastery.

He thought that be unlocking the 'codes' of the symbols carved into it he would obtain great powers and would be able to 'read the minds of his enemies'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264150/Hitler-plot-steal-Turin-Shroud-thwarted-Vatican.html
Eleven answers:
?
2013-08-14 04:10:37 UTC
As you can see by statements made by atheists like the trooth hurts, he is giving his opinion on how he thinks God should reveal himself to us, another idiot trying to make teleological statements that he can't explain or back up.



Yea hitler did want the shroud because he was into the occult, but if his scientists could unlock the advanced technology of how that image was made it might have been dangerous .

But since even 21st century science can't even come close to replicating the shroud image it's pretty safe to assume hitlers scientists would have been baffled by it. The technology that caused that image is way beyond our capabilities, and the evidence all points to it being the shroud of the historic Jesus and the amazing qualities of the shroud image all point to one reasonable conclusion, that it was caused as Christ went through the resurrection process.



There are so many amazing evidences on the shroud it would take years to study them all. I have been studying it for 5 years, and most shroud researchers overlook one of the most subtle evidences on the shroud that have very little to do with the shroud image itself, and its the blood clots.

When the sturp team studied the blood clots they found that they were undisturbed and unsmeared.

What's amazing about this?

Well , ask yourself how the body that was on the shroud got off the shroud , or was taken off the shroud without even disturbing the blood clots or the shroud areas surrounding the clots even on a microscopic level. This is naturally impossible , which leads us to believe that the man on the shroud had to leave the shroud in an unnatural way, probably becoming transparent and phasing dimensionally right through the shroud. Other evidences that support this are that whatever caused the shroud image wasnt a body to cloth contact, as evidences by the 3d spatial information incoded into the image which faded away at more than a few inches .



The trooth hurts , because you presume to be the objective judge of how God should reveal himself to us that makes you the stupid one, not God.

You also fail to consider free will in the equation, but then again atheism is an emotional worldview and not a rational one.
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2013-08-13 13:08:52 UTC
Seriously the backwards sun wheel aka the Nazi Swastika has never been a black magic symbol and never been considered a black magic symbol by anyone with a brain, the Shroud of Turin isn't scorched and whatever magic Hitler was interested in it wasn't Satanic. At most it would have been some made up ritual tied to the refurbishing of the Aryan myth with Germanic nationalism and Christian overtones.
?
2013-08-13 13:03:26 UTC
There's no reason to think this was for "satanic means" other than mere speculation. Hitler was obsessed with the occult though, that is documented. He also sent teams to try to recover other similar artifacts. Like the supposed Spear of Destiny which he did recover. He wanted these things because he thought they would give his army special powers and make them invincible. That's one reason why it's funny that some christians claim that Hitler was an atheist. No atheist would think that a spear that pierced the side of Jesus would have any special powers...... Hitler may not have been a traditional "christian", but he most definitely was not an atheist either.
Mint Julep
2013-08-13 12:59:36 UTC
It's kind of like how the Red Skull was trying to steal the Tesseract in WW2.

Thankfully Captain America stopped him.
John
2013-08-13 13:30:59 UTC
A lot of books were written after WW2 and Most, if not all, are a work of fiction. Non of what you quoted there is in the realm of reality .We have to be careful where we get our information from, because there are people who will take advantage of your ignorance.





This site offers a list of books & articles that present real History .



http://www.biblestudysite.com/



http://www.theseason.org/
?
2013-08-13 18:39:39 UTC
Satanists are not evil like people think, and they are elite atheists. All you need to know is in the Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey who is the founder of Satanism. They love kids and animals and the law. They do not pray or plead they demand their WILL and command their desires from the forces of darkness. Also read "Satanic Rites and Ceremony's" by Rev. Yaj Nomolos



Quote from famous musician, High ranking Church of Satan member and very close friend to Anton LaVey - King Diamond "Satanism is about the Powers of the Unknown. I have had hundreds of strange supernatural experinces with the occult, the other side, the beyond, whatever you want to call it that proves there is a spiritual world that can cross over into our world. Satanism is a life philosophy so within it you can have your own religion, any religion you want, within the Satanic Philosophy you can even be a Christian. And Satan on a spiritual mystical level stands for the Powers of Darkness, the Powers of the Unknown which are always all around us at all times. This is the best way to talk about these Spirits and Powers.



Some people like to call "Them" God or the Devil or whatever, but I do not believe there is all one good power and one all bad power. I believe there are many, many different Spirits and Powers that exist and that they are not good or evil, like humans they have both inside of them and I always treat them with the highest amount of respect and feel that respect returned by Them. I believe we are one and the same me and these Unknown Forces. I believe they come to those who they feel can handle it and who will be faithful believers." In the song "Welcome Princess of Hell" you hear me singing to these spirits and powers and they sing back to me. They came to me to let me know they are here for me on my journey and that they are behind me and that they wish me good luck! We all live several lives so that our souls can grow in order to reach a higher plane. 99 percent of the population live by the Satanic Philosophy whether they know it or not. As Anton LaVey even told me that Satanism is simply a life philosophy and NOT a religion. People who see Satanism from the Christian view point are not treating these powers with respect and that is very dangerous.



Within the Satanic Philosophy a person can still be a Christian if that fulfills their spiritual needs.



LaVey Church of Satan Rev. Thomas Thorn - " There is a spiritual dimension that communicates with us and there are powers and deities in this spiritual world. We use Satanic Rituals to summon, communicate with and make pacts with Demons that are real beings as well as other spirits"



Church of Satan member Joe Netherworld recently called Americas Favorite Satanist has a site talking about how he uses his ability to communicate with the spirit world to help solve cases and give accurate info to people during divination's that he does



This is why the Books The Satanic Bible and the Satanic Rituals by Anton LaVey stress to treat these entities with respect as friends and companions and to be in league with these Powers and not use protective circles and pentagrams which insult these forces. Anton LaVey spent his life researching the occult, magic and the supernatural and was a ghost hunter. He said he created a glowing pentagram to attract these forces and did essays on the trapezoid which opens gateways to supernatural forces. As Anton LaVey himmself said in books and video interviews he tried calling up spirits and demons using circles and names of God and Jesus for protection and it did not work so he knew he needed to then be on the side of the demons instead of using protection in order to call up Demons and gain magical powers and have things go his way. LaVey also said how Satanists thrive in the darkness surrounded by the Dark ones and the Infernal spirits.



Church of Satan video documentary "Satanis" many Satanic Church members were asked if they believe in a God or Powers and they said "Yes they do"



Satanic Priest Peter Gilmore - "Everyone behaves in a Satanic fashion and it is high time people recognize that"
2013-08-13 13:00:18 UTC
Hitler was an idiot.

He chased after tons of occult artifacts and nothing came out of it. He's still dead, he still lost the war and magic STILL doesn't exist.
2013-08-13 13:07:46 UTC
I guess we can add one more to Hitler's very long list of epic failures.
2013-08-13 12:59:14 UTC
I think if that's true its a pretty bad secret...



And if god thinks the best way to prove his existence is putting his face on a cloth that hardly anyone knows about, then your god is pretty stupid...
Brigalow Bloke
2013-08-13 14:23:31 UTC
if it's in the Daily Mail it has to be 100% true.



http://www.eclectech.co.uk/dailymailpicnic.php
Dee Nyle
2013-08-13 12:59:29 UTC
He was quite the prankster!


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