JWs is it true that theWatchtower Owns Warfare Technology?

Question

JWs is it true that theWatchtower Owns Warfare Technology?

Answer 1

no.



According to the SEC report:



James McCann the inventor of the Rand Cam donated shares of his company "Rand CAM Engine, Inc." to the Watchtower.



It is the parent company "REGI US INC" that owns the U.S. rights to the Rand Cam (TM) technology who decided to sell it to such companies as Radion for military applications.



When that occured the Watchtower dumped the donated shares because of the military applications. They no longer own REGI U.S. Inc.



For example the 1999 SEC report shows the Watchtower donated shares:



http://www.secinfo.com/dVgzt.619z.htm



The 2003 SEC report does not:



http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/000106299303000725/form10ksb.htm#page_21

Answer 2

No. The information is WRONG!



The company does exist.



" Among their products is an engine used in smart bombs."



Not true. The engine is used for the following





"Smart War-fighter Array of Re-configurable Modules (SWARM) low cost unmanned aerial vehicle."



Also known as a Predator drone which is an unmanned, unarmed reconnaissance drone.



From one of many Yahoo groups where this has been posted and shown to be misleading.



""Rand Cam Engine Corp. is a privately held company whose stock is reportedly owned 50% by The Watchtower Society, a religious organization, 34% by James McCann and the balance by several other shareholders. Mr. McCann has indicated that he donated the shares held by The Watchtower Society to that organization but has

retained a voting proxy for those shares. Accordingly, in Notes (3) and (4) above, beneficial ownership of the 5,073,200 shares registered in the name of Rand Energy Group Inc. has been attributed to The

Watchtower Society and Mr. McCann. "



So what do you do with a stock you can't sell or even give away since you have no say in how it's proxy is voted?

Answer 3

An official letter from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, dated November 1, 2002 dealing with this issue:



"After looking into this matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the Governing Body in caring for Kingdom interests own stock in the Rand Cam Corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question. The facts are that two brothers originally involved in inventing and developing the engine made a private agreement years ago (of which we were not notified) to send a portion of any profits realized from the venture to the Watch Tower Society as a gift for its worldwide work. Subsequently, circumstances required that rights to ownership and developing the engine be transferred to a holding company not controlled by them. The Watch Tower Society was erroneously listed as a stockholder in information published by the holding company, and this error has now been corrected. Hence, the charge is totally false. Moreover, the Watch Tower Society has received no contributions as a result of the original private agreement made between the two brothers."



You are also quick to label this "Gilbert Taylor" as a brother in good standing with the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. But that is your weakest link.



Please produce the EVIDENCE showing conclusively that Gilbert Taylor was one of Jehovah's Witnesses in good standing throughout his entire career with the company when it was involved in the above manufacturing operations.



=Edit to Blessed=

Well from the looks of it Blessed, the only ones here who have proven themselves untrustworthy are the ones making these accusations against the WBTS. We had the official letter and response from them given in my question, and then we had the SEC reports to confirm everything that the society said happened.

And if the whole Rand Cam accusation has been debunked and proven to be a lie, then why on earth would we possibly trust the NGO allegations as well? The website below will examine that for you.

Answer 4

I'm sorry for you. I was raised to become a JW - obviously it didnt work... But my Mother and most of my family are still to this day. My Mom told me that if I told her I was an Atheist or a Satanist she could no longer talk to me and that it would be MY choice, not hers... JWs are not at all accepting of who people actually are. It's their way or the highway. But you also have to understand that they are very simple-close minded people who can not comprehend why anyone wouldn't want to be a JW. At first I just thought they were stupid, then I came to realize that when it comes to my dear Mother who was raised as a JW, they dont know any different. They are taught that everything bad is Satan, and everything good is Jehovah. I'm not sure if you were raised a Witness or ever attended a meeting, but you would know what I mean. It's all very sad - my Mother said that she wouldn't turn her back on Jehovah for anyone or anything. In front of me her and her new husband made an agreement that they would choose Jehovah over each other - in other words, they will obey and die for that stupid Society that doesn't make any sense or do anything but hurt and shelter people. My poor cousin is 14, JWs encourage homeschooling, so she still to this day can barely read and can not read clock unless it is digital. Again - sorry to hear about your loss, just try and accept them for who they are and you can be the bigger person by doing that. As I've always told my Mother - I will always love you no matter who you are, just because you are you. I hope that one day you feel the same way about me.

Answer 5

Do the Watchtower men of New York talk from both sides of their mouths. Well I say they just need an excuse of not going into war. If they can't walk the walk; don't talk the talk. No defending our Country but the money out of war is good enough for them. Shame, shame, shame. What would Jehovah do?

Answer 6

LOL- this apostie question is so last year..... If you believe that, I guess you'd believe anything.



Why not pick on something more dramatic- like the fact that since JWs never cheat on their taxes, they are the chief financial backers of the US war in Iraq!!!



The JWs are smart- they supply the cash for the war, then sit back safe at home, while the other "Christians" supply the cash for the war AND get into the army and get blown into a thousand bits of minced meat by the Iraqi Army.



Hmmmm... I'd rather be a JW



Answer to the Question: No, it is not true.

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Chuckie HAHAHA!!!!



Russia is Vot's home country???? Are you crazy???? Dude- once I get my final exam done, Vot is leaving this place on the earliest flight possible!!!



My degrees will follow me home via DHL!!!



No offense to the Russians, but Vot is the wrong colour to live here, sorry.

Answer 7

Ah, shucks, Oberon! I liked your first answer much better, only without the sarcasm:



"I hear that the JW's are involved with the Illuminati too....NWO related for sure. They're probably watching this question right now"



Might do you some good to investigate before you scoff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32z6Cw21OAk&feature=PlayList&p=04D50E621C1BAB1B&index=0&playnext=1



And why would we trust the "official" Watchtower position on anything? Documented evidence would be far more useful! ;) Such as with the United Nations disgrace.

Answer 8

There is a difference of definition with the words cults and occults.

Answer 9

Interesting. It will be interesting to know what they have to say. Thanks for sharing

Answer 10

Hmm, why does Vot's answer sound very anti- US Army and very pro- Iraqi Insurgent Army? Might it have anything to do with the US's involvement with getting Russia (Vot's home country) and its Army out of Georgia? Be careful, Vot! Patriotism and nationalism displeases Jehovah! You must remain neutral, remember?!



Blessed is right. This pales in comparison with the organization's NGO membership to the United Nations, whom they claim is the "wild beast" mentioned in Revelation;



"That “rod” will be member nations of the United Nations—an organization pictured in Revelation as a seven-headed, ten-horned, scarlet-colored wild beast.—Revelation 17:3, 15-17" Isaiah's Prophecy volume 1 chap. 26 p. 345 par. 7



Of course, as always, ANY excuse that the organization gives for why it was an NGO member of the UN until publicly exposed by a British reporter will be unquestioningly believed and accepted by the majority of JWs. Nevertheless, we press on in the hopes of reaching those JWs who do have a heart receptive to the REAL truth and who despise deception!