Question:
Do you believe their is truly separation of church and state in the U.S.?
daisymay
2010-09-29 05:52:56 UTC
Do you believe their is truly separation of church and state in the U.S.? If so, when it comes to the issue of gay marraige why do the majority of individuals who oppose it refer to the bible?
Nineteen answers:
Tigg
2010-09-29 06:11:36 UTC
"In God We Trust"

"One Nation Under God"

Gays can't get married because of the overwhelming Christian majority.

We've had a President (Bush) who claimed he's spoken to God. He made this statement at a press conference.

No.
?
2010-09-29 12:55:43 UTC
For the most part.



You do need to realize that doesn't mean your personal opinions can't be religious based.
jtrusnik
2010-09-29 13:05:57 UTC
For the most part, yes, there truly is separation.



As for the Bible references to citizens, that's a different issue. People have the freedom to base their politics on whatever grounds they wish...the state can only intervene on peoples actions, not on their opinions (Reynolds v. the United States (1878)). Those people's biblical quotes are politically irrelevant. We don't argue about biblical interpretations when we make our laws.



As the Prop 8 court case showed, the U.S. only focuses on whether or not there is a national interest served in permitting only heterosexual marriages. As the court ruled, there is no such interest, no matter what supporters say. As such, the judge down the ban in California as unconstitutional and the parties have requested that the federal courts examine the issue. I'm sure that, no matter what they decide, it will be appealed again. This will no doubt eventually be a Supreme Court case.



If there was no separation in the first place, there would be no judicial procedure; lawmakers could whip out their bibles, argue what it says, and write the laws accordingly. That isn't what's happening.



Culturally, there isn't always separation, but, legally, it's there.
Robin
2010-09-29 12:56:17 UTC
For the most part yes. The Government does not make laws concerning religious belief or worship.



You forget... the gay marriage thing was given AS A VOTE. The Gov't, though they pushed it thru, did not actually make it a law... the people who voted did. Which is why they are doing everything they can to overturn it as it is against the Constitution. So yes, for the most part, there is.



Don't expect perfection - you'll be sorely disappointed.



ROFL @ the people saying no because it's in society. That's because the people in society have beliefs. The only way to change this sort of thing is wipe out the society (which I've seen a few in R&S claim they would do if they could).... or VOTE.... or move to an island and make your own laws. For all the crying in here over what's in our society, I don't see it in the news that anyone is actually trying to do anything about it.
anonymous
2010-09-29 13:16:38 UTC
The answer will vary according to which part of the country a person lives.

As a whole the separation of Church and state is not complete, in some areas it is and others (such as the Bible Belt) it is not separate.
anonymous
2010-09-29 12:59:10 UTC
This absurd question gets asked every second day.



The constitution does not sanction separation of church and state, but merely opposes the state setting up a church. The separation is a straw man for people to throw hissy fits for and against.



Gay marriage, again, is a straw man for people to judge and get all puffed up with emotion.



Don't worry about it. All that can be done has been done. When gay marriage is supposed to happen, it will happen.



Peace.
Nox
2010-09-29 13:06:32 UTC
For the most part, I believe so, but the very fact that people were allowed to vote on civil rights shows that it's not completely, since politicians lack integrity. People can be against gay marriage all they want but they shouldn't be allowed to dictate whether it is prohibited by law.
anonymous
2010-09-29 13:00:56 UTC
On paper yes there is a separation of church in state.

Slightly more difficult in practice but the government usually does a fair job at attempting to maintain this divide.
Golden Brown
2010-09-29 12:54:56 UTC
I think that is technically impossible in a democratic society.



As long as the church is telling people what values they should follow, there will never be seperation of church and state.
?
2010-09-29 12:54:51 UTC
"Do you believe their is truly separation of church and state in the U.S.? "

no

why?

becuz alotof our rules are somehow involved with religion

and this kitty doesnt like it D:<
Avery
2010-09-29 13:06:18 UTC
No.



One has to simply step into a public school in the Bible belt (or below) to see this.
I'm a nice person
2010-09-29 13:32:56 UTC
We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Think about it. If you don't believe there is a Creator to endow us with these rights; then where do you think the concept came from? Without this concept; we would be just like Iran, etc.
Bed Tundy
2010-09-29 12:54:11 UTC
For the most part yes.
?
2010-09-29 13:00:07 UTC
i think all of it ... everything .. all the bs that people are fed .. the country itself .. being 'modern .. ALL of it, is designed to stamp out classic religious thought period .. it is BY design ..gays whatever ..being gay and seeking rights is just caught up in the middle of the battle and clueless kindof sad actually ..
gutbucket
2010-09-29 12:55:19 UTC
No, I don't. Religious nonsense pervades our schools, society, laws, and government.
Mac_Dre3
2010-09-29 13:08:36 UTC
No unfortunately it interferes with way more than it should.
?
2010-09-29 12:57:38 UTC
yes..... we are in the end times.....
anonymous
2010-09-29 12:54:51 UTC
Christian values as Jesus preached them are not evil... and american citizens who have christian values should be allowed to practice them and to voice their opinions in government.
Five Led
2010-09-29 12:54:46 UTC
if there was we would have no Morals, but the left wants to take away all morals and make up their own just for controlling purposes


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