Question:
For Christians: If there's only one God, and Jesus is God, then who was Jesus speaking to?
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2007-02-21 05:46:12 UTC
If there's only ONE God, and Jesus is God, then who was Jesus speaking to when he was praying, and when he was at the Cross about to die?

As far as I know, he couldn't have been praying to himself (that would make no sense in any Christian doctrine), and while giving up his spirit at the cross, he spoke to the Father as a separate entity/person. Could this mean that there are two or more Christian Gods, and that the Ancient Text Translators made a few minor mistakes? At least this would explain many of the errors found in the Bible.

SERIOUS RESPONSES ONLY, PLEASE.
21 answers:
Perceptionzzz
2007-02-21 06:10:55 UTC
Trinity in christianity is a man made philosophy, every one knows except beginer orthodox or lay persons, this concept is propogated years after the death of Jesus (pbuh), and not all the sects of christians believe in this concept, not only confused one but also logically or rationally un-proved from there own sources of proves. But todays christians (mostly on the internet espessially, perhaps a teenager group or non thinkers) think this is there main concept, which is not true according to the Bible, at least.



There are recorded several evidences that after the introduction of Trinity concept in christianity, the later editions of bible was translated and changed gradually or instantly, to reflect the same concept in closer allegorical ways, by simple changing the whole sentence or by changing some of the words in it, more you see the older versions of bible, more you will be away from the trinity concept.



One may need no reference for the above, just ask some christian that he should prove this from bible, no need to argue with if he is not a thinker, just search the verse he has shown in older versions of Bible, you will gain the truth. In fact common persons dont have the ability of in depth researches, this is the problem of human as a whole, and not related to any particular religion.



Those who have corrupted or cheated, they have earned the power and rule, what common persons have earned by following them blindly, is the question one should ask to himself, no matter what religion he or she is practicing.
t2ensie
2007-02-21 05:58:44 UTC
No, there is only one God, Jesus has always been there, but God the father is God the father. Jesus chose to be born of a human mother and to die for the sins of God's people so that they can be forgiven. Jesus is the ere to the throne of heaven. He is the king of all who come to heaven through salvation. And being no person is without sin, he is King to all who go to heaven. See, God is an all knowing God, it is promised way back in the old testament that there would be a savior, so Jesus had to already be in existence. If you read the Bible this is all explained in there. Even if you aren't a christian, you can read the bible, just to learn about it. It is an awesome book. Careful though, there is life in God's word.
2007-02-21 06:16:36 UTC
You are seeing things in a way that says you have a humble and open attitude, which is a quality that is not present in this world that we live in.

You are right Jesus was talking to his creator and his God and Heavenly father. See (John 20:17) 17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’”



Colossians 1:15, Revelation 3:14, 1 Corinthians 11:3, Ephesians 1:17, Proverbs 8:21-31, Psalms 83:18,

To see that Jesus was in a position that was special with his father and was given a job to do and pass on to his followers. See Mathew 28:18,19

To understand the knowledge of God and to understand that man will never be able to rule this earth with any success is seen by what man has already accomplished in the last 6000 years, For this reason we need to search out God's plans for his earth and our part in them? If you would like to know then I can send you Scriptural thoughts as you wish.

Regards gemhandy@hotmail.com
Steven
2007-02-21 05:53:17 UTC
Jesus was created the almighty has always been here, these are the scriptures to prove it. Jesus is the first thing the Almighty ever created.





(Colossians 1:15-17) . . .5 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,



(Revelation 3:14) 14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce´a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,



(Acts 7:55) 55 But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand,



(Revelation 1:1) 1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,



(Revelation 7:10) 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Hannah J Paul
2007-02-21 05:56:19 UTC
If there is only one God and Jesus is God, then (1) either Jesus was talking to himself or (2) Jesus was talking to one-third of himself. Neither makes sense. Neither is taught in scripture.



Some people say "it is a mystery." It is certainly true that there are many deep things in the Bible that are difficult to understand, but they do not defy reason. That would violate 1 Corinthians 14:33 which clearly states, in the New American Bible, " . . .he is not the God of disorder but of peace." Christ himself closely linked everlasting life with taking in knowledge of God and the one whom God sent. John 17:3. Clearly, knowledge is necessary to worshiping God acceptably. How can anyone possibly do that if they are lacking fundamental knowledge as to exactly who God is?



No, there are not two or more Christian Gods. And there are no real errors found in the Bible. I have heard that many times but have never had an actual doctrinal error pointed out to me. Perhaps you have one in mind that you could share?



Hannah J Paul
2007-02-21 05:53:32 UTC
I think that the majority of Christians believe that these are not one in the same. There is God, and then there is Jesus his son. Jesus states in the bible, "I will be seated at the right hand of my father." Then there is the holy trinity...the father, son, & holy spirit......but thats a whole other question.
se-ke
2007-02-21 06:14:00 UTC
In all seriousness...



God created all. He is the father of all.

Jesus is God's spirit wrapped in flesh. He is God. The flesh is what separates the two. God sent Jesus to live among man and show us how to live in this world - controlled by Satan. Man were so caught up in their wicked ways (greed, envy, jealousy, and self-glorification) that they did not accept Jesus' words. They tortured him and hung him on the cross. During that time, Jesus was setting himself up to be the sacrifice for Man's disbelief in God. By doing this, Jesus bared the sins of all man (past present and future). Remember, during his 33 years on earth he has been sinless. By taking on the sins of man, he has never been this far from God's spirit, so the weight was tremendous and terrifying to him - hince his crying out to God. Jesus died then rose again, and ascended to heaven. afterwards the Holy Spirit (also a part of God) came to earth and dwelt within the believers.

So you have God (the father of all), Jesus (the son of God), and the Holy ghost (God's spirit that dwells inside believers). God in 3 person.
LineDancer
2007-02-21 07:24:19 UTC
Jesus is not God; he's the Son of God. John 10:36.
leissa
2016-11-25 02:50:12 UTC
Jesus isn't God, he's talking spectacular here to the 1st century Christian congregation of Philadelphia. he's clearly talking of his God, now no longer himself. it is going to grow to be even clearer on a similar time as examining on with the aid of means of verse 14: “And to the angel of the congregation in Laodicea write: those are the flaws that the Amen says, the uncomplicated and real witness, the beginning up of the creation with the aid of means of God... " As Colossians a million:15 additionally tells us, Jesus Christ replaced into the beginning up of the creation with the aid of means of God, God's firstborn Son. Jesus gave witness approximately his Father in heaven and not did he declare to be his Father, or Almighty God. He replaced into consistently subject to, in submission to, his Father.
Tree of Jesse
2007-02-21 05:53:14 UTC
Jesus as perfectly God and perfectly Man.

The Incarnation conversing with the Father.

Without the Trinity, the idea does become impossible to understand...hence the ridiculous points of view most Protestants come up with (most of them heretical to the last).



Jesus is the Father is the Holy Spirit is Jesus
Christian93
2007-02-21 05:52:17 UTC
Jesus is God the Son. The Creator is God the Father. God's Spirit is God the Holy Spirit.



One God--three separate beings.



Like you, your mother, and your father are one family, but three separate people.
2007-02-21 05:57:45 UTC
May the peace, blessings and mercy of God be upon you



Please read and understand what God has revealed to us



[005:072] Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "God is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary." But the Messiah Jesus said: "O Children of Israel! Worship God, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with God, then God has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong doers) there are no helpers.



[005:073] Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "God is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no god (none who has the right to be worshipped) but God alone. And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.



[005:074] Will they not turn with repentance to God and ask His forgiveness? For God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.



[005:075] The Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Mary] was a Siddîqah [i.e. she believed in the Words of God and His Books (see Verse 66:12)]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while God does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them; yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).



Peace Be With You
Sternchen
2007-02-21 06:28:01 UTC
Looking at Trinity in Creation:

As the Trinitarian doctrine maintains, each of the persons of the Godhead is distinct, yet they are all each, by nature, God.

With time, for example, the past is distinct from the present, which is distinct from the future. Each is simultaneous. Yet, they are not three 'times,' but one. That is, they all share the same nature: time

With space, height is distinct from width, which is distinct from depth, which is distinct from height. Yet, they are not three 'spaces,' but one. That is, they all share the same nature: space.

With matter, solid is not the same as liquid, which is not the same as gas, which is not the same as solid. Yet, they are not three 'matters,' but one. That is, they all share the same nature: matter.

Is the "past" plus the "present" plus the "future" a total of three times? Not at all. It simply is a representation of three distinct aspects of the nature of time: past, present, and future. Likewise, the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit are not three separate beings or entities, but three distinct persons in the one nature of the Godhead.



Objections are raised saying that Jesus could not be God, otherwise, He would be praying to Himself,.



Let's take 'present' and add to it human nature. Present, then, would have two natures: time and man. If 'present' were truly human then he would be able to communicate with us, tell us much, and we could see and touch him. But, because he is also 'time' by nature, he would be able to tell us both the past and the future as he manifested the 'time' nature within him. If 'present' then, communicated with the past and the future, it would not mean he was communicating with himself, but with the distinctions known as the past and the future.



The doctrine of the incarnation in Christian teaching is that Jesus, who is the second person of the Trinity, added to himself human nature and became a man.

The Bible says that Jesus is God in flesh, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.....and the word became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:1, 14); and, "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form" (Col. 2:9). Jesus, therefore, has two natures. He is both God and man.

Jesus is completely human, but He also has a divine nature.



The Bible does not speak of the word trinity but tells us there is a Father his Son and the Holy Spirit working together as one.



@Perceptionzzzz where do you find these changes you speak about I would be interested.
bettyboop
2007-02-21 05:53:36 UTC
You were right, God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit ARE the three-in -one.The TRINITY.

God is our Father in Heaven.



He has a son, Jesus Christ, Who died for our sins at Calvary. He arose the third day, and sits at the right hand of God.



Yet, when we ask Jesus into our heart, we are given the spirit of Jesus Christ.



God

Jesus

the Holy Spirit



There are NO MISTAKES in the Bible, though, NO MATTER how we tear it apart and scrutinize it, the Bible is GOD'S WORD.



I believe that when we die--if Christ is in our heart--then Heaven is where we are going--when Jesus Christ returns.



I believe the promises of the Bible, and God gives me ABSOLUTE joy, peacefulness, and contentment in my heart.



Just because I believe what I believe --I do NOT judge what YOU believe. I can ONLY tell you that Jesus Christ, through God, the Father--makes me so in love with Him AND people.

Jesus loved me first and died for me--so NOW I can accept people for who they are.

A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR ME--FROM CHRIST!!!!
shravanjps
2007-02-21 05:52:47 UTC
Often, while preaching, we were asked to state our position regarding Lord Jesus Christ. Had we accepted Jesus as the true Savior? they wanted to know. If the answer was no, then we were lumped in with all the other devil worshipers who were going to burn in the eternal hell. Of course we accepted Jesus, but not exactly in the way the Christians did. Previously I had come across a book entitled The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ, which de-scribed the activities of Jesus between his twelfth and thirtieth years, an important portion of his life noticeably omitted from the New Testament. Because the book described how Jesus had received the major part of his religious training in India, I thought it worthwhile to bring it to Çréla Prabhupäda's attention, and out of curiosity, Çréla Prabhupäda had me purchase a copy. For a number of afternoons during his last visit to Los Angeles, he would hear with interest as I read the narration of how Jesus learned the art of hearing from the yogés in Benares, traveled to various holy places, and even participated in the Ratha-yäträ festival in Jagannätha Puré. The author, however, stated that Jesus did not approve of Deity worship, considering Lord Jagannätha to be an idol. Though much of the book seemed to substantiate our Kåñëa consciousness tradition, this point made Prabhupäda skeptical. What was the author's paramparä? Prabhupäda challenged. I explained that the author supposedly obtained his information from the "akashic records." Prabhupäda was not satisfied. He also questioned why so much attention was given to Jesus' healing the physical illnesses of the people. A pure devotee is not very much concerned to treat the bodily diseases, but teaches his followers how to transcend the bodily condition altogether by practicing devotional service. Although a pure devotee is empowered by Kåñëa, and as such is the most powerful of yogés, he does not take advantage of this by performing miracles, but prefers to convince his disciples through instructions and by his personal example of devotional service. In the final analysis, Prabhupäda's conclusion was that since the book's authenticity could not be established, it was not therefore very important. Nevertheless, while giving his inauguration address at the Ratha-yäträ festival in San Francisco, he described how two thousand years earlier Lord Jesus Christ had also participated in a similar festival.

Since the issue of Jesus repeatedly came up when we preached, I requested Prabhupäda to clarify to what extent we should explain Jesus in the context of our philosophy. Prabhupäda's advice to me was that while accepting Jesus as a great devotee and a son of God, it was better that we avoid any detailed discussions about other religions. In a purport of the Caitanya-caritämåta, Çréla Prabhupäda described the teachings of these religions as yavana-çästra, the scriptures of the meat-eaters. Usually, the authority of their teachings was not clearly defined, and neither had enough care been exercised in preserving their "original" versions. As a result there was widespread confusion among the leaders of various religious disciplines about the best way to interpret the teachings they had respectively inherited. Fortunately, we had no such problems. Even after five thousand years, the Kåñëa conscious philosophy remained perfectly clear and intact due to the process of unbroken disciplic succession. The ^dos were the source of all knowledge, and Çrémad-Bhägavatam the postgraduate religious treatise. Therefore, our discussing in detail these other religious traditions had little value, as much as lighting a candle in broad daylight was of no use. Occasionally we might cite some stray extract, but just to support our own views, as Prabhupäda had done during his Ratha-yäträ speech.
2007-02-21 05:54:06 UTC
There is only One God.

Christ cannot be God. God cannot be killed, even for only one second. He is only a Messenger of God like Moses, Muhammad, Khrisna...Their bodies died, but Their Spirit lives eternally.
great gig in the sky
2007-02-21 05:53:03 UTC
I think that Mohammed did not understand completely the Trinity.

That is why you have to question.

See Matthew 3:16-17.

Matthew 28:19.

2 Corinthians 13:14.

John 14:16.

I think that he may have been too busy diddling Aisha while Gabriel was telling him things.
2007-02-21 05:57:37 UTC
Read post #1.
mikentammy76
2007-02-21 05:52:02 UTC
jesus is god in human form
Johnisrox
2007-02-21 05:52:05 UTC
He was speaking to yo momma!
primoa1970
2007-02-21 05:50:15 UTC
Again...the trinity is not easy to understand. We are not asked to understand it....we are asked to believe it to be true by faith alone.



There is God the Father...

God the Son....

God the Holy Spirit...



Take it or leave it.


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