Is it possible for me to be a Christian without believing in Trinity ?

Question

I still want to be a follower of Christ , but the concept of Trinity is confusing me and I don't want to believe in it anymore.

Answer 1

My personal response to that as a Christian is that I don't know how you would be able to avoid sin if you don't accept the Holy Spirit working within you, but I myself believe in an economic Trinity rather than an ontological one, i.e. it's a description of the history of the relationship between God and humanity and not a literal three-sided timeless God.

Answer 2

Your choices are limited.  The Mormons, the JW's, and the United Church of God don't accept the doctrine of the trinity.

Answer 3

All true Christians do not believe in the trinity, the trinity first was adapted in the Christian belief in the latter part of the fourth century BC. There were two warring beliefs in Rome, the pagan Roman belief and a group called "The Way" (Acts 9:2) ASV 2 and asked of him letters to Damascus unto the synagogues, that if he found any that were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

(Acts 19:9,23-24, ) 9 But when some were hardened and disobedient, speaking evil of the Way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Tyrannus. 23 And about that time there arose no small stir concerning the Way. 24 For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, who made silver shrines of {Diana*}, brought no little business unto the craftsmen;

(Acts 19:23) A Greek virgin goddess of hunting is known as Artemis; she was identified by the Romans with Diana. (Acts 19:27) The Ephesian Artemis was a fertility goddess: This goddess of fertility goddess in our modern times is none other than "Easter: In the book The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hislop, we read: “What means the term Easter itself? It is not a Christian name. It bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven, whose name as found by Layard on the Assyrian monuments, is Ishtar. Such is the history of Easter. But this is another pagan festival false Christendom's clergy has adapted into the Christian belief! 

Historian Will Durant observed: “Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it

Getting back to the trinity: 

In the preface to Edward Gibbon’s History of Christianity, we read: “If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. 

Here are a few more scriptures that show the followers of Christ were known as "The Way" This was who we know as the Apostle Paul, then known as Saul who persecuted the earlier followers of Christ before they were known as Christians which they were first called in Antioch!

(Acts 22:4-5) 4 and I persecuted this Way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. 5 As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and journeyed to Damascus to bring them also that were there unto Jerusalem in bonds to be punished. 

(Acts 24:14,22) 14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the Way which they call a sect, so serve I the God of our fathers, believing all things which are according to the law, and which are written in the prophets; 22 But Felix, having more exact knowledge concerning the Way, deferred them, saying, When Lysias the chief captain shall come down, I will determine your matter.

(Acts 28:22) 22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, it is known to us that everywhere it is spoken against.

Later on what we know today as the Roman Catholic church under the rule of Tertullian exiled sect know as the Way out of the Vatican!

Answer 4

just convert to judaism. they dont have a trinity concept for their god and their religion is very similair to christianity.

Answer 5

No.  The Trinity is fundamental to Christianity, and we have proof that the early Christians worshiped God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Answer 6

Not fully Christian. There are manmade churches that claim to be Christian while rejecting essential beliefs of Christianity like the Trinity. But the Trinity is one of the central beliefs of true and complete Christianity.

Answer 7

No.  All Christians believe in the Triune God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. These members constitute ONE GOD.   

 

"Jesus is the Powerful Presence of God gracing human life through the Holy Spirit."  >>He lives within. 

Answer 8

If you deny that Jesus is God you are worshiping a false God.

Answer 9

If you deny the Trinity, then you deny Jesus as God. You cannot be a Christian without supporting the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

Mind, Body, and Spirit, we are made in His image. Yet each of us is a single person. We ourselves are triune beings.

Answer 10

There's only one way to become a Christian, and the Bible explains it as repentantly trusting in what Jesus did to bear your punishment for your sins. When you put total trust (faith) in the only possible way to be pardoned by God, you become an adopted child of God, born again, as Jesus explained in John chapter 3. Until that miracle of grace happens to you, you won't have a clue as to what doctrines like the Trinity are about. That cannot possibly make sense to you because you have not yet become a Christian. You are putting the cart before the horse.



You have to grasp something of who this Jesus really is before you can have saving faith in Him. Here's the crux of the matter. If the Son of God is not God incarnate, then He could never have had the magnitude of deity needed to bear the punishment for all sin ever committed, before His time on Earth, during His time and after returning to Heaven. But there's no need for you to be able to explain every word, phrase and nuance of the official Trinity doctrine. You DO have to bend your knee in Jesus' name, in awe at just who it was dying for your sins.

Answer 11

You don't have believe the Trinity doctrine to be a Christian.  Just the opposite is true; the Trinity doctrine is not a true Bible teaching.  Anyone who honestly reads the Book of John in the Bible will clearly see that Jesus NEVER claimed to be God but always God's SON.

The trinity doctrine falsely teaches that all three members of the trinity are equal.  However, even after Jesus died as a man and was resurrected to heaven he was not equal to God as 1 Corinthians 15:28 shows.

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.Obviously the Father and the Son are not the same and are not equal as the trinity says.

Answer 12

Trinity is man made

Answer 13

If you check out the history of Christianity you'll find that Jesus was not considered divine until a Papal convention 1100 years after his death, so the idea of the Trinity is an earthbound concept not a God given doctrine. That said some Papal meetings have presented some good ideas, notably the elevation of Men and Women to sainthood.

Answer 14

There is no such thing as the Trinity, .... because it's brainwash...

Answer 15

Yes. The trinity concept is confusing because in some translations of the Bible, other word to promote that teaching were added. Those words did not connect with the other word written in the same chapter where the words were added. An example of is this John chapter one. 

King James Version

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The  same was in the beginning with God. This verse that Word was with God while verse one states the Word was God. 14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth. This verse states that the Word became flesh and had the glory of an only-gotten son from a FATHER. This is why you confuse. Notice what a more accurate translate states:

New World Translation

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in the beginning with God...14 The Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth. The Word is called a god with a lower case g. True Christians stick to what is written in an accurate translation of the Bible with nothing added to promote a false teaching. For more information go WWW.JW.ORG.

Answer 16

God has chosen to exist as three persons.

Answer 17

John 1:18 read it. What does the Bible say about Jesus, thousands of people saw Jesus throughout his lifetime. This scripture also said the Jesus was at his Fathers side. In order to be at someone’s side, it must be 2 distinct persons. 

The Trinity is hard and impossible to understand. Yet, the truth is simple. Trinity is false. Have anyone that believes in the Trinity explain it in a logical way, they will fail.

Answer 18

No it is not it is not.

Answer 19

Trinities are pagan god concepts and it stands to reason that Christendom adopted a pagan belief in God to garner converts just the same as they adopted pagans holiday customs to do the same. There is no trinity as Jesus Christ himself said that our God and Father is also his God and Father.

Answer 20

Why are mainstream Christianity considered Christian when many of their holidays and traditions are stolen from non-Christian religions

Answer 21

If you  try to keep the 10 commandments, and  treat others the way you would like to be treated, you will be following Christ. 

Answer 22

No. You not only have to believe but prove your belief through obedience and resultant good deeds, as it is written in Jam 2:19-20 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that —and shudder. You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless?"

Answer 23

THE TRINITY IS GOD HIMSELF IF YOU KNEW THE TRINITY COMPLETELY YOU WOULD BE GOD.

THE TRINITY IS INFINITE



IF YOU ARE A TRUE CHRISTIAN YOU WOULD NOT CALL JESUS A LIAR WHEN HE SAYS HE IS GOD. 



BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING YOUR BEST FOR JESUS, BY LOVING JESUS(GOD INCARNATE) FIRST AND THEN YOUR FELLOW MAN AS YOURSELF. YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE.



MAKE NO MISTAKE YOU MAY NOT THINK YOU BELIEVE IN THE HOLY TRINITY BUT OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN HAS SAID IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT TO BE BAPTIZED, YOU MUST BE BAPTIZED, 



WITH WATER IN THE NAME OF THE "FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT OR YOU ARE NOT BAPTIZED, THIS ALONE TELLS YOU THERE IS A TRINITY. SEE HERE WHERE JESUS SAYS HE IS GOD MANY TIMES AND DONT WORRY ABOUT HOW THE TRINITY EXISTS, JUST BELIEVE JESUS FOR HE DOES NOT LIE, EVER>>>



JESUS IS GOD, SEE HERE WHERE HE TELLS US MANY TIMES IN THE BIBLE FIRST WHERE HE TELLS PHILLIP HE IS GOD,>>>>



 Philip said, 'Lord, show us the Father and then we shall be satisfied.' Jesus said to him,



9 'Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? 'Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, so how can you say, "Show us the Father"?



10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? What I say to you I do not speak of my own accord: it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his works.



11 You must believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe it on the evidence of these works.



EXPLANATION OF JESUS SAYING ONLY THE FATHER IS GOOD>>>



I know at glance it seems like Jesus is questioning why they call Him good. However, He is agreeing that He is good, but bringing to their attention that this goodness is from the Father and the good they see in Him is because He is light from light, true God from true God.



He was saying that if people recognize that He is good then they should know that He is God. They should recognize that God is the source of goodness, not man. He was raising people's minds to recognize the Messiah.



ALSO, THIS IS PROOF GOD IS A BLESSED TRINITY IN GODS OWN WORDS JESUS TELLS YOU HE IS GOD MANY TIMES, ALSO THE TRINITY IS IN THE SAME BIBLE, GOD SAID, "LET US" MAKE MAN IN "OUR" IMAGE, AND WHEN GOD AT THE TOWER OF BABEL, GOD SAID, let "us" go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other! HENCE HIS TWO MESSAGES THAT GOD IS THE BLESSED TRINITY



BELOW ARE DIFFERENT TIMES JESUS SAYS HE IS "I AM" GOD.



JESUS TOLD THE PHARISEES WHEN THEY SAID TO JESUS, DO YOU PUT YOURSELF ABOVE ABRAHAM AND JESUS SAID, BEFORE ABRAHAM, "I AM" MEANING HE IS GOD



WHEN MOSES ASKED GOD HIS NAME, GOD SAID HIS NAME WAS "I AM"



OTHER TIMES JESUS SAID, "I AM" THE DOOR TO HEAVEN.



"I AM" THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE



"I AM THE VINE, YOU ARE THE BRANCH'S



JOHN 17:5 And now glorify thou me, O Father, with thyself, with the glory which I had, before the world was, with thee.





John 8:58

Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say to you, before Abraham was made, I am.



saias (Isaiah) 43:10

You are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know, and believe me, and understand that I myself am. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there shall be none.



https://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/incaa3.htm



I WILL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES THEN MORE IN MY LINK. FIRST THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD AND THE WORD BECAME FLESH(JESUS, GOD, MAN) AND DWELT AMONG US. SECOND, WHEN SATAN TEMPTED JESUS, JESUS SAID, YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST. 

Answer 24

Trinity is not a Bible teaching.





The early Christians did not believe or teach the Trinity, nor do true Christians today.

Answer 25

A follower of Christ follows his example. 1 Peter 2 vs 21 says Christ left a model for us to follow his steps closely.. One example Jesus set was that he always prayed to his Father in heaven. Jesus said at John 14 vs 28 ...the Father is greater than I am... He said at John 5 vs 30...I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative...I seek to do the will of him who sent me.... Jesus always prayed to and directed attention to his Father in heaven. John 3 vs 16 says...God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten son... Yes, Jesus is not God but the son of God. The holy spirit is God's active force, the same active force he used to create the universe. Please visit jw.org. where you may read and study the bible online. You may also request a free home bible study on a day and a time convenient for you.

Answer 26

Jesus, John, Peter and Paul DID NOT believe in the trinity.



And John, Peter and Paul are without doubt true Christians.



One pro trinitarian site states:



"The Trinity is a controversial doctrine; many Christians admit they don't understand it, while many more Christians don't understand it but think they do."



Why is so controversial?  Because it goes on to say:



"The New Testament of the Bible never explicitly refers to the Trinity as such,"



Meaning, God's word doesn't teach the trinity.



Further more it continues:



"The mystery of the Trinity: (1+1+1=1) = Nonsense!

This idea that three persons add up to one individual seems like nonsense. And logically, it is."



This site concludes with:



"And the churches themselves disagree about the content of the doctrine; the most common Western statement of the Trinity is not accepted by the Eastern churches."



Now what did Jesus teach us:



(John 14:28) “28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.”



(John 17:3) “3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”



(Revelation 3:2) “2 Become watchful, and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your works fully performed before my God.”





What did John teach?



(Revelation 1:6) “6 and he [Jesus] made us to be a kingdom, priests to [Jesus'] his God and Father. . .”



Peter?



(1 Peter 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,. . .”



Paul?



(Ephesians 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,. . .”



Paul goes on to say, 'if we want wisdom and accurate knowledge of God we must:



(Ephesians 1:17) “17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.”



Go to Jehovah, the only true God and ask him for wisdom and understanding.



Then go to jw.org and learn more about the wonderful God, who created all things.

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Sorry, No where does John say Jesus is God, John at John 1:1 says Jesus is a god, godlike or divine, even though many trinitarian bibles try to say otherwise.



According to John, who gave the Revelation to Jesus?

According to Jesus who is his God (Rev 3:2)?



Where does Paul say, Jesus is God?



Paul says only the Father is God. (1 Cor 8:6)



Jesus calls God's holy spirit God's finger, definitely making the holy spirit a part of God, but not a distinct and separate person.



With my hand / fingers I can speak, feel pain, direct and comfort people, but that doesn't make my hand a different person with its own will and thoughts.

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Edit to DL, Thank you.



Copying and pasting from God's word is what I do best.



The interesting thing is I don't have to make up stuff about the trinity, trinitarians do it so well for me.



All you have to do is read what they themselves say about it.



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Then according to your teaching, John, Peter and Paul aren't Christians either.



I guess I'm in good company, especially when you add Jesus to this group.

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Answer 27

Of course, but that's not a good reason to stop believing something

Answer 28

Sure, but the concept of the "Trinity" is scriptural... the revealed nature and aspects of God that we can understand. The living God is greater than we are able to fully comprehend.

Answer 29

Yes. Not all Christian Churches are trinitarian. Christians are not supposed to believe in THREE GODS anyway. People just don't understand the idea. I am ONE man. I am also a son (of my on father), A husband and a father (of MY son)---3 aspects of me--that does not mean I am THREE different people. THIS is what the trinity means--God has three ASPECTS. A father a son and power over physical matter. It don't mean he is THREE different entities. Those ASPECTS are simply "personified" Personification is an ancient literary and teaching tool not meant to be taken absolutely literally.----

Answer 30

Absolutely, it's the only way.



Jesus said he was God's son, Almighty God said that Jesus was his son.



Jesus plainly stated that he was more than a good man. He said: I am God’s Son. John 10:36 Of course, anyone could claim to be the Son of God. But if Jesus’ claim were false, what would that make him? Really, not a good man, but a great fraud!



The most reliable testimony came from God himself. He twice said concerning Jesus: This is my Son. Matthew 3:17; 17:5 Just think: The Scriptures report only a few occasions when God’s own voice was heard on earth yet on two of them he affirmed Jesus as his Son!



This is by far the best proof that Jesus was who he said he was. Jesus never claimed to be God, but he repeatedly spoke of himself as God’s Son. Even his enemies acknowledged this.



Jesus never even suggested that he was God or was equal to him. So to teach such a thing dishonors Jesus.



He is God’s Son. Whereas his father is Almighty God.

Answer 31

Is the Trinity Doctrine in the Bible?



Many religions teach that God is a Trinity. Is that what the Bible teaches?

Answer 32

No. One of the core essentials of the Christian faith is the recognition that God co-exists as a Tri-unity. The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit co-exist as one eternal God.

Answer 33

Yes its possible, we all were given the same measure of faith that we came into this world with. We were given enough faith first of all to accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, and much more. Of course its up to each and every individual to use their faith. We are spirit, we have a soul and we reside in a body of flesh, blood and bone. When we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we become born again new creations. Of course our body and soul remains the same as it was before we/spirit-man became born again new creatures. Then like a new born babe we must learn to walk and to talk as a born again child of God should walk and talk, To make a long story short, a baby Christ may not believe in the trinity. But you will come to believe the truth, the Holy Spirit will teach you.

Answer 34

It would be interesting to know how a person could claim faith in the Son of God, without believing in AT LEAST the Father and the Son.

And why would the Bible report that Jesus said ANYTHING about blaspheming the Holy Spirit, if the people who reported that as part of the Christian Bible did not WANT people to believe in the Holy Spirit?

Answer 35

Yes, Oneness Christians

Answer 36

Psalms 83:18;Matt 4:10; John 17:3 jw.org

Answer 37

Your statement is telling, "I don't want to believe in it anymore". Truth is not a variable that lets you pick and choose "your" truth. The answer is no, you cannot be a Christian if you fail to acknowledge that Jesus is God which truth demonstrates that God is manifested as more than one Person. Even the Old Testament reveals the Trinity so that you are without excuse. If you are interested in knowing the truth, I will expand this response.

Answer 38

Yes. The Bible at Matthew chapter 3 verse 17 states: “Look! Also, a voice from heaven said: “this is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved .” Clearly identifying Jesus and his Father as two separate spirit personages. Always base faith on scriptural support. 

Answer 39

Yes!! Regarding the Trinity, the Athanasian Creed (in English) says that its members are “incomprehensible.” Teachers of the doctrine often state that it is a “mystery.” Obviously such a Trinitarian God is not the one that Jesus had in mind when he said: “We worship what we know.” (John 4:22, RS) Do you really know the God you worship?

Answer 40

Why would you want to follow Christ if you don't believe that He is also God?  That would be idolatry.  You don't want to do that, either.



You know the Bible speaks of it many times, and that Jesus' death would be meaningless if he weren't God.  Let it be confusing, just know it's true.  You might come to understand, but you won't be "a Christian" if you deny it.

Answer 41

Yes. There are various variations of Christianity. And, not just of the church's, or main church's. 

Incidentally, around 2000 years ago there were about as many Christian denominations as now. 

Answer 42

Without the Trinity, you can't be Christian.



It's that simple.

Answer 43

If a person is a Christian it is because the Holy Spirit convicted them of their sins and need of a Savior who is Jesus Christ who gave His life to redeem all mankind of their sin debt if they only Repent of their sins and Trust Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. After Christ had finished His work He ascended back to Heaven to be at the right hand of the Father but He promised to send a comforter (Holy Spirit) to live within Christians. If you are a Christian you have been filled with the Holy Spirit.

Answer 44

You don't need to label yourself to 'be' present.  Be yourself, the person God made you to be and, be proud - just to be who You are.  That's enough, period.  No one should expect any more than this. 

Be Happy!   :D

Answer 45

The trinity is unscriptural nonsense.There's only God and Jesus in true Christianity. Casper the friendly ghost doesn't get a mention!The trinity is an attempt to bring back the bad old days of Rome's polytheism and idolatry.Falsely calling it Christianity.It is accurately described as Maryolatry and Popery.

Answer 46

Yes! Of course! Christians don't believe the trinity. For it is NOT a Biblical teaching.

Answer 47

It's possible to be a Christian and not accept the doctrine of the Trinity. It's just not possible to be a mainstream (or "orthodox") Christian.



I suspect a lot of people who reject the doctrine of the Trinity simply don't understand it in the first place. The concept arises because Christians, apparently from the first century, believed that

the Father (of whom Jesus spoke) is God;

the Son (as Jesus identified himself) is God; and

the Holy Spirit (of whom Jesus also spoke) is God.



It took about three centuries, and a lot of spreading of Christianity among people with Greek pagan backgrounds, before Christian leaders discovered some Christians thought that meant there were three separate Christian gods. So they clarified that mainstream Christianity believes in only one God--one divine Being. Each of the three divine Persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is a manifestation of that one divine Being, though the three Persons are distinct.



That doctrine, the doctrine of the Trinity, was spelled out to explain that Christianity had one God, not multiple gods.



This might sound less confusing if you realize that the one-person-per-being rule we're used to derives entirely from our experience with other human beings, and it's illogical to consider God subject to a purely human limit.



Anyhow, that doctrine defines the mainstream. But there are Christians who choose to believe otherwise.

Answer 48

The concept of the trinity did not appear for the first several hundred years of the Christian church and was never taught by Jesus or Paul. The term was defined to resolve different opinions on what the Roman Catholic church was to believe. Being a Christian never meant that one had to believe every little issue that was presented. For example, the Assumption of Mary did not enter the church's belief until 1850. Most of what Christians are supposed to believe came many years after Jesus died. Your beliefs still put you under the umbrella of Christianity.

Answer 49

A Unitarian church may be right for you.

Answer 50

The Godhead (Trinity) is true.



Jesus is God, and the Trinity is true.  You have to believe that Jesus is God as a part of being saved (John 8:24).



And "following Jesus" doesn't get you into heaven.  It is believing in Jesus for eternal life, without adding any of your own works, that gets a person into heaven (Romans 4:5).



Nobody can be good enough to avoid hell. The truth is that death leads to immediate heaven or hell, depending only on whether the person believed in Jesus for eternal life, or not.

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The truth is that Jesus loves you and wants to bless your life freely :) Most of all, Jesus wants you with Him forever, and not in hell. The truth is that every belief except one will lead to eternal torment in the lake of fire for every person. Because nothing pays for our sins except the death and blood of Jesus, the sacrifice of Jesus that is already accomplished by Him . Jesus loves you! The truth is that Jesus is God, and Jesus died on the cross to pay for all of our sins in full, and then Jesus resurrected from the dead. Nothing else pays for our sins, not works, not deeds, not religions. So the only way to heaven and to avoid hell, is by believing in Jesus for eternal life (John 6:47), without adding any of your own works (Romans 4:5). Believe in Jesus to take you to heaven, and you will be in heaven, no matter what, guaranteed. That easy, thanks to Jesus! Tell Jesus that you thank Him that you will be with Him in heaven when you die, because you believe in Jesus! It is too late to be saved, after death

Answer 51

Absolutely! Especially since the Trinity is not taught in the scriptures.  There is no scripture in the Bible that supports God Jesus and the holy spirit being one.

Answer 52

no. its a basic requirement to believe such bullshit to become one

Answer 53

The Trinity is the Catholics.  The other Christians do not put much into the Trinity.

Answer 54

You are part of a trinity when you open your door and answer peoples questions that are aimed for your father. Your father told you to tell Mr. Jones so and so and accept his money for payment. In that essence you were not only your father but you were also yourself and your father's emissary. Why is that so hard to understand?

Answer 55

Just  like you can continue to be christians without believing in trump and/or trinity. Not all Christians are trinitarian. 

Answer 56

Sure, why not?  I don't think God care whether you think He is a Trinity or not.  Before there was Christianity, the "Christ-Jew" followers in the first few centuries after Jesus' death, did not have a canonized religion to follow in, yet the were devout believers in Christ, without the concept of the Trinity, which did not become cannon to Christianity until the Council of Nicaea, in 325 A.D.  



Judaism, from which Christianity came, is one of the few ancient religions that does not recognize a Divine Trinity, of any kind, which is why we do not see the concept appear anywhere in the books of the Bible, which were written before the Council of Nicaea officially adopted it into Christian doctrine.  The concept of the Trinity has existed in religion, and predates Christianity by many thousands of years.



The ancient Sanskrit word 'trimurti', or "three forms of God", is found to be the earliest the Trinity appears as a concept.  The Trinity appears in ancient African faith as "Assur, Asset, and Heru", which the Greeks adopted as "Osiris, Isis, and Horace".  The Vedic/Hindu Trinity of the Indian faiths recognize the Trinity of Lords Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma.



I don't think it matters whether you accept the Trinity or not, so long as the same 'Almighty Lord' is worshipped.  People who don't understand the Trinity aren't any more or less advanced than those who do, they just have a different understanding of what is meant by 'Divinity', and assume it means a "different" and "separate" God, rather than a different way of 'seeing' and 'comprehending' God.  



The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are considered to be the 'different' not "separate" aspects of the same 'Supreme Infinite Godhead', out of which all things arise.  The forms of the Trinity signify the 'Divine Attribute' of 'Omnipresence', expressed as 'Creator', 'Created' and 'Creation', which are fundamental to all of existence.  Trinity-deniers accept God as 'everything at once, yet He cannot be "Three Persons", at the same time.



 

Answer 57

Interesting. But, I don't see anywhere that Christ said there was such a thing as Trinity.

Answer 58

Nothing wrong with just trying to believe in Jesus without worrying about all that other stuff.  Let Him worry about it if it is so important.  There are many things going on and not all of them have to be understood.  The Trinity is one of those things.  So what if you don't understand it.  No big deal.  I don't either.  But I do understand Jesus when He tells me to give being a nice guy a try.  It works.  It keeps me out of trouble.  And that is plenty good enough for me without having to study things so far over my head like the Trinity and stuff.  

Answer 59

Yes, the real Christian or the one who belief in Jesus al Maseeha the son of Holy Mary ,is the one who deny the believe in Trinity.  Christ in Greek means Masehah, the one who cure people by rubbing his hand on the patient and then being cured by the permission of GOD. So the word Christ has nothing to do with trinity, what so over.

Answer 60

No dear, those are cults like JWs

Answer 61

I don't believe you can be a Christian without believing in the Trinity.  I am not an expert but a believer and I can read the Bible.  My question is - why wouldn't you want to believe in the Trinity? - it is far more complex and divine and spiritual and powerful in nature than that boring single moon God the musloids worship Allah or whatever.  I believe you are in the company of a few cults as well that don't believe in the Trinity.  Check out what you are getting into and pray to Jesus to give you the right path to follow.  Study the scriptures on the topic - google it.  Make an informed decision - you might find out 20 years later you weren't following Jesus - just blowing around in the wind.  20 years gone like a flash!

Answer 62

You are not a Christian, otherwise, true Christians believe in the Deity of God!



If you want to remain in your confusion, write to the Watchtower Witnesses, so you will be happy with them when you go to hell!

Answer 63

Then be a follower of Christ and walk in peace with Him .....



also ask, seek and knock.



Isn't it sad all these people who say 



"BELIEVE WHAT I TELL YOU OR YOU WILL GO TO HELL! I GUARANTEE YOU!!"



Um ... supposing they are all wrong?

lol?



comments: 



Hello, Norine, it's me. Didn't you recognize me? It's your nemesis ....... the one who is here to stop you being an abusive muppet for personal gain and self gratification. You sure are looking like satan out there you utter creep. 



YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED ?NORINE? I PROMISE YOU!



You' re running out of time mate. What a shame ............. ?



.......... and you still haven't answered the wineskin question.



2 Peter 2:22



Incidentally, are you deliberately trying to get your account closed here because you have been exposed as a false teacher, a charlatan and a FRAUD?



1The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion.

Answer 64

It's simple: 1 X 1 x 1 = 1. Now, go and sin no more.

Answer 65

Believing in creationism and the Holy Trinity are fundamental for being a Christian, and not a TRAITOR

Answer 66

NO CUZ GOD HAS SAID HE IS 3 IN ONE AND WHY WOULD U WISH TO BELIEVE LIES INSTEAD OF OUR PRECIOUS LORD?? READ GENESIS WHERE HE SAID "WE" MAKE MAN IN "OUR" IMAGE! PRETTY CLEAR HUH?

Answer 67

No.



Ex 3:13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?” 14 God said to Moses, “I am who I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

Jn 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I AM [he], you will indeed die in your sins.” ... 58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I AM!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.Please note the "he" in Jn 8:24 is not in the original Greek.  Jesus was calling himself the Great I AM (i.e. God), and that's why his listeners wanted to stone him, for blasphemy.  Unless one believes Jesus is God (I AM), they will die in their sins.

Answer 68

The Trinity is a foundational truth in Christianity as revealed in the word of God in the Bible. If you reject and deny the Trinity, you are rejecting and deny the faith of Christianity.



However, that being said, God does not require you to have a perfect knowledge and understanding of the Trinity, as that is not a requirement of salvation and no one here on earth or in eternity to come will ever have a perfect understanding of God. But as I wrote above, if you deny the fundamental truth of the Trinity, you don't know God and you don't have eternal life.



Recommended reading, "The Forgotten Trinity" by James R. White.

Answer 69

No.



"Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son." (I John 2:22)



The Bible says that there is one God.



It says that the Father is God. (Matthew 6:8)



It says that Jesus is God. (John 8:58)



It says that the Holy Spirit is God. (Luke 1:35)



The Bible is clear. Even though the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, the Trinity is clearly taught by scriptures

Answer 70

Does any part of you truly believe anyone has the answer? Develop your own relationship with whatever/whomever you choose to believe in, live the way you feel is right for you, no one knows better than you do.

Answer 71

A true Christian who is a footstep follower of Christ will believe in the teachings of Christ.  So try to examine what he taught about God. Did he say he was God? Did he say he was equal to God? You can find answers to these questions at www.jw.org. check out this link when you go to this website 

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/

Answer 72

The Trinity is not difficult to understand, scripture verses make the mystery acceptable and unique.

A simple read of John 17:5 (this verse proves God & Jesus; together divine).

Next: read John 14:26, this verse is the Holy Spirit * divine *.

What does the word "trinity" mean?

Answer: (noun), the state of being three. 

Answer 73

Sure, why not. You can fight with other Christians about just this issue. Have fun. Also, you can go talk to a pastor or revvie that can explain the Trinity to you. Or not. You can also research it online. It takes about five seconds. Bye!

Answer 74

All who believe the trinity is calling Jesus a LIAR.

Jesus said: John 14:28...for the Father is greater than I am.Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

{If Jesus is god then why doesnt he know?}Matthew 20:23 He said to them: “You will indeed drink my cup, but to sit down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”

 {If he is part of trinity why isnt it his to give?)

lots more scriptures prove Jesus is not God Almighty



Trinity



Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three “Persons” are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. Not a Bible teaching.



What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?



The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.



The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.



In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.



According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.



John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.



Trinity is not a bible teaching.



Jesus did NOT pray to himself.

Matthew 6:9 “You must pray, then, this way:“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

Matt. 26:39, RS: “Going a little farther he [Jesus Christ] fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’”

(If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father’s will.)



Jesus himself said:

John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him.

Jesus Father said to Moses:

(Exodus 33:20) “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”(1 John 4:12) No one has seen God at any time. If we continue loving one another, God remains in us and his love is made perfect in us.



John 8:17, 18, RS: “[Jesus answered the Jewish Pharisees:] In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true; I bear witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me.”

(So, Jesus definitely spoke of himself as being an individual separate and distinct from the Father.)

Answer 75

"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, which giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him" (James 1:5, KJV).

Answer 76

No way not even

Answer 77

Yes, there have always (since the foundations of those religions that became Christianity) been a wide variety of ways to view God, Yeshua/Jesus, and the relationship of man and god. 

Answer 78

Why do people not understand such a simple concept and the way BAD Christian sects and cults are so against it?!



God the father - THE ONLY GOD!!!!!!!



The SON OF GOD - JESUS and NOT god.



The Holy Ghost - the SPIRIT of GOD - therefore it is of God not a different God!

Answer 79

Actually it is Quadnity. The father is pointing at your head. The son is pointing at yourself and holy spirits and bad spirits are pointing at your shoulders. So it is 4 not just 3 spirits.

Answer 80

The Trinity is not actually in the bible.

Answer 81

U do not have to believe in a trinity to be a christian.

Answer 82

Not to worry... the trinity is NOT what God the Father, His son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are about.

Many Christian churches do not believe the trinity theory.



In my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, there are 17 million members who do NOT believe the trinity.



Take a look at James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.



You're a follower of Christ already... you just needed a little course redirection.  



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly7c9scxB9I

Answer 83

I cannot give you the best possible answer (seeing as I'm still in high school), but in my understanding I would explain the Trinity similar to the government in the USA, with three parts, each is the government, but they are separate and the same all at once, such as when Jesus is baptized by John the Baptist (Luke 3:21-22). there, they all seem to act as separate entities, which they are and they aren't (I saw a meme with a similar phrase in it "well, yes and no"), but they all act towards the Trinity's (which is God's) collective purpose. an example my Bible Teacher frequently uses is a triangle, as removing any corner of the triangle means it is no longer a trinity, but together, they are all equal sections of a triangle. (a triskelion would probably work just as well as a triangle though)

Answer 84

In spite of what some Christians claim here, the concept of the Trinity is not a defining feature of Christianity as a whole.

Sure, the big established traditions (most notably the Orthodox Churches, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Protestant traditions) all are trinitarian but there still are nontrinitarian denominations out there.

One should also note that the now orthodox* trinitarian view has only emerged after quite some time. There were various rival doctrines in early Christianity, like Arianism or Modalism, that eventually lost out to the Trinitarians - and history is written by the victors.



I'm sure I'll get a good number of thumbs down but as an ex-Christian atheist I have no stake in the game about whether Trinitarianism or Nontrinitarianism is true since I don't believe in either, but I am sufficiently educated to know a bit about the historic facts.



But unlike many Christians I don't ask you to just trust me and won't try to convert (or in my case: de-convert) you; rather I encourage you to do your own research.

You can start by checking out the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism



There's also a fascinating lecture by New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman on the topic. I don't have the YouTube link handy but can look it up if you want. But you can also look for Ehrman's lectures and debates on YouTube, they are very interesting and informative.





* with a lower case "o"

Answer 85

all Christians believe in the trinity. *if they are Christian*





those who claim to be Christian and do not?

(are really lost and confused about GOD and JESUS role)





did GOD allow someone to be KING in HIS sted?

in HIS place?



NAY.....



JESUS is our KING.

 



Heb 7?

the spelling is slightly different due to the greek manuscripts.



(See Genesis chapter 14) for the Hebrew....

this is JESUS.

Answer 86

1) Is it possible for me to be a Christian without believing in Trinity ?



Yes. There are several Christian sects or denominations that are not Trinitarian.





2) I still want to be a follower of Christ , but the concept of Trinity is confusing me and I don't want to believe in it anymore.



That is a very poor reason for rejecting the doctrine.

I can understand that you are "sick and tired" of trying to understand it...

but that is no reason to reject it.



Consider something much more difficult to understand: Quantum Mechanics.

Do you reject Quantum Mechanics because it is so difficult to understand? That is: do you choose to believe that it is not true because you cannot understand it?



Or...do you accept that it is probably true even though it is beyond your comprehension?





Me: Bach Sci Physics, I got straight "A"s in Quantum at University and I understand the doctrine of trinity.

Answer 87

The Buble does not say "God in three persons." Not. One. Single. Time.  God is the Father.  God is the Eternal Holy Spirit.  God is not a physical person.  Read John 14:8-11 and Colossians 2:9-11.  It is really not complicated. 

Answer 88

The Bible teaches that Jehovah God is the Creator and that he created Jesus before all other things. (Colossians 1:15, 16) Jesus is not Almighty God. He never claimed that he was equal to God. In fact, he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28; 1 Corinthians 15:28) But some religions teach the Trinity, that God is three persons in one: the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit. The word “Trinity” is not in the Bible. This is a false teaching.



The holy spirit is God’s active force, his invisible power in action that he uses to do his will. It is not a person. For example, early Christians “became filled with holy spirit,” and Jehovah said: “I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh.”​—Acts 2:1-4, 17.

Answer 89

No.  I'm sorry, but you cannot be a Christian without believing that Jesus Christ is God Himself, incarnate in human flesh, and that He is one of the three Persons of the Triune God.  



The other two Persons are God, the Father and God, the Holy Spirit.  All three are 100% God, all omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.  None is superior to the other two.  All were present when the world was created (Genesis 1:26--"Let US make mankind in OUR image, in OUR likeness").  All have ALWAYS existed, uncreated by either or both of the other two.  All are eternal.



Jesus, as God, the Son, has always existed, BUT WAS NOT ALWAYS A MAN.  When Mary conceived Him in her womb, by God, the Holy Spirit, He added human nature to His God-nature.  During His  earthly lifetime, He chose--FREELY, WILLINGLY CHOSE--to submit Himself to God, His Father, but He always has been, is now and always will be God, the Son.  Check out Isaiah 9:6-7, and John 1:1-18.  There are many other passages which prove both Jesus's divinity and the Trinity, but those are two of the best.



As I said, you cannot be a Christian without believing Jesus to God incarnate and one Person of the Trinity.  But I certainly understand your confusion, because the Trinity IS confusing.  I used to struggle with it too, until I finally gave up and prayed, "Lord, I've tried to comprehend the Trinity, how one God can be three Persons, and I just can't.  But SINCE IT'S IN YOUR WORD IN THE BIBLE, I KNOW IT MUST BE TRUE.  So please help me JUST TO ACCEPT IT, even if I can never understand it."  God be praised, He not only did help me to accept the Trinity, but gently taught me that that is EXACTLY what we are supposed to do!   We're not meant to COMPREHEND the Trinity.  We only need to ACCEPT it ⛪👑🕊   



I've come to see that this is really a blessing, helping both to increase my trust in the Lord and deepening my faith.  After all, I am both limited and sinful.  A god whom I could fully comprehend would not be capable of saving me from my sins, nor would it be worthy of worship.



You can never fully comprehend the Trinity, but there are analogies which will at least keep your head from exploding 😁  The Trinity is like H2o.  It has three states, water, ice and vapor.  They are different, can be used in different ways, but all are H2o.



Also, the Trinity is like an enormous apple tree.  A thick trunk rises from the ground, but diverges into three huge, main branches.  They are distinctly separate from each other, nevertheless the three branches are still ONE tree.



I hope this has helped.  God bless and keep you, Me 🌹

Answer 90

Some Christians would say you cannot be a Christian if you do believe in the trinity. And of course there is the other way around of Unitarians being accused of blasphemy. If you pray, receive answers and base your belief off of that, how could a Christian really be mad at you?

Answer 91

Yes. As a  Christian, I  actually do not believe in the trinity for it is not a bible teaching. God is Almighty and Jesus is his son. The Holy Spirit is not a person, it is God’s  active force used to carry out his will. Jesus himself never spoke of this. He stated at John 14:28 that his Father was greater than he was. Several references also of God himself stating Jesus was his son. 

Answer 92

No, that constitutes calling God a liar. He attests to the Trinity (aka Godhead of Father, Son and Holy Spirit) throughout scripture. 



We don't have to understand or explain the Trinity on our judgment days - but we MUST believe it or we call him a liar. 



Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?



Pray:



Lord I do not always understand all of your word, but I believe every word of it with all my heart. And then pray for knowledge, wisdom and understanding .

Answer 93

fundamental of being a christian is the belief of Trinity God for over 2000 yrs from Jesus and our apostles handed down from generation to generation...

Answer 94

Of course you can be a christian without believing all of it. Being Christian means believing in Christ and folowing His teachings. Ignore the dogma espoused by fundamentalists.