Question:
Christians, isn't it about time that your book get updated to today living instead of being reworded?
2010-09-02 11:47:51 UTC
Let's be honest. How many bibles are out there with different wordings and different meaning to fit into our culture? Now, tell me, and be honest, how long ago has it been since the bible has been updated? You know, new stuff being added and the old stuff being removed.

For example. We have no reason to read or teach where Paul states that he doesn't ursurp woman to teach. Fourteen years ago, God proved that piece of scripture to be wrong when he used a woman preacher to minister to me. So let's update the bible, just like it was updated thousands of years ago.
Fifteen answers:
2010-09-02 11:50:45 UTC
When you pedaled your trike into a wall five years ago it hurt



When you pedaled into a wall yesterday , it hurt



When you will pedal it into a wall 5 years from now...it will hurt



Truth doesn't change to fit culture
paulathome
2010-09-03 19:07:29 UTC
No Gods Word is a Living thing Spiritually it never goes out of date Ever, But Satan Attacks it Furiously through willing partakers of his Will removing Truths and injecting Lies in order that people do not find Salvation but instead seal their own Fallen and terrible fate as he and the other Fallen Angels did so long ago. you can be sure that if it is Not attacked and systematically altered watered down or even changed then it was Not Holy in the First place but its author already has included Satan or One of his Camp, and the Old and New testament Books are One full composite Not one with an Update but a fulfillment and One harmonic Book despite what some Fallen Ministers and Deceived Shepherds teach.
Warrholm
2010-09-02 18:57:47 UTC
Perhaps you need to understand the origins of the bible a little better. It was written (by divine inspiration or by man) in ancient Greek and Hebrew. Hebrew, in particular, is hard to translate because they convey ideas in their words. Translations over the years have attempted to understand the concepts conveyed, rather than the words themselves. Also, like all language, it is rooted in Contemporary cultural references.



Example : Spare the rod, spoil the child. Often is mistaken to support corporal punishment. But if you look at the culture of the day, most people were, or at least understood, sheparding. The Rod was used to guide the sheep back to the flock. So, the interpretation should be about the parents responsibility to guide their children. At the most basic level, it could even be meant that children need to learn how to use the rod (that is, work and take responsibility for their lives) or they will not be ready for the world.
dewcoons
2010-09-02 19:06:14 UTC
Neither the nature of God nor the nature of man have changed in all that time. Right is still right and wrong is still wrong. Morality has not changed - society has in that it is often challenging morality. But morality has not changed.



There is no need to update the Bible as the conditions it talks about have not changed.



As for Paul saying that a woman should not usurp authority over a man, hopefully you realized that is not stated anywhere in his writing. Paul does talk about the requirements of a person seeking to be a leader (bishop) in the church. And he states that such a man should not have a wife who rules over him or teaching him. This is wife should be a person who learns from him. Not because women are forbidden from having authority, but because if the man is ruled by his wife, he probably lacks leadership skills, and if he has to be taught by his wife, he lacks the knowledge to be a bishop. Nothing in Paul's writings forbidden women from being leaders. Rather right after he list the requirements for a man to be a leader, he list a modified version for women. Why would he do that if women were not to be leaders?



The Bible does not need to be updated. Often our prejudices by which we interpret it do.
Kissthepilot
2010-09-02 18:52:14 UTC
I love atheist logic. Your example doesn't even fit your statement. Women are not supposed to teach,except other women. Are you a woman? Then her teaching you is fine. And, even if you are not a woman, you say her teaching ministered to you, but that's not proof that a woman should teach anyone. Nobody had to change the Word of God for her to teach you, she just had to break it.



The wordings are different because of translations, not interpretations. When you understand the difference, it will make more sense to you.
2010-09-02 20:41:15 UTC
so your opinion is to rewrite what is established truth?...Ok, by that rationale we can go ahead and say the sky is not blue but is now to be considered lemon yellow...oceans aren't filled with water they're filled with pudding and pudding is now called slop. People are now fig trees and countries are pie.



The Bible is what the Bible is, and it's meaning has not changed through translation into different languages nor the use of more modern dialect/jargon/slang. A different translation, if you are willing to cross reference, does not change the meaning it offers an expanded view of the specific words used in the Hebrew and Greek, along with the context. The words in Greek and Hebrew have multiple meanings that different translations allow us to compare and expand our understanding.



If a translation does change the meaning of the Biblical word, or conflicts with what is well established truth such as the doctrines of Jehovah's Witness & Mormonism, then it is not Biblical to begin with and is to be rejected as a false doctrine.





The core beliefs of the Christian faith are unchanging for Christians, and in every Bible I have cross referenced are the same, and there are secondary issues that are items for "debate and personal reflection and the personal practice of our faith," but do not diqualify a person from being a re-born Christian, a follower of Christ, but even so are still unchanged in meaning within the Bibles I have cross referenced.



That God is One, the only God, with a Triune nature, i.e. the Trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Godhead is a core issue.



Christ is the Messiah, Christ coming in the flesh, Christ being sinless, Christ suffering then dying on the cross for our sins, Christ resurrected, Christ's Ascension, Christ being given all authority in heaven and on earth , Christ having a dual nature both fully God and fully Man, Christ being the "only" way to the Father, the Way the Truth and the LIfe, Christ being the Savior of the world, of all who believe in Him, that we can never earn or deserve our salvation, that it is a Gift of Grace from God in Christ Jesus, that any who reject Christ will be condemned for eternity for their sins against God, that we are not to "practice sin," which is described in detail for our benefit throughout the Bible, that when we believe in/accept Christ, the Holy Spirit of God indwells us and sanctifies us, that we are to share the Gospel (Good News of Christ) with the world, that we are to forgive others or we will not be forgiven, that we are to love one another, etc. These are core issues.



Secondary & tertiary issues, etc, would have to do with teaching methods, learning, hair length, clothing styles, foods we eat, disciplines, personal freedoms in Christ that do not conflict or reject any of the teachings of Christ and His apostles and disciples, etc etc.



If any translation or teaching conflicts with the well eastablished teaching of Christ, especially what it considered core doctrine, then we will avoid it, reject it, etc, but, I have never been to a chruch where the doctrine was anything but Biblical.



You do realize that Paul was the Apostle who was given the task to bring the word of God to the Gentiles? If you wish to eradicate or pick and choose sections of the Bible to be removed, i.e. what you personally wish to remove or include within the Bible then you are making your own religion.



I am not sure what verse you speak of regarding Paul, but Timothy said something very similar:



1 Timothy 2:

11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.



If you notice, it is not a command. The verse says, " "I" do not permit."



In any case, this is not a core issue.



So no, the Bible does not need to be updated as God knew exactly what He was doing, and His Word remains the same as it was over 3500 years ago. Those who believe it should be "updated," simply need to read God's Word more often and pray to Him for guidance while they do.



And the Bible wasn't updated thousands of years ago. The New Testament records the fulfillment of God's Law through His Christ. It doesn't change what was established from the beginning. Abraham, Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, etc, all knew the Christ would come and they had faith that God would fulfill His promise, the Holy Prophets of old said it would be so, and it happened just as God said it would.
Mythos
2010-09-02 18:56:07 UTC
The Bible wasn't written to "keep up" with the times as though God is somehow desperately trying to "keep up" as well.



That's exactly what lies behind these "questions".



As for what we have no reason to believe concerning what Paul said, who are you?



That's what I thought.
Watch Dawg
2010-09-02 19:25:30 UTC
Nope
?
2010-09-02 18:52:56 UTC
Or become a Catholic and watch for the old Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur and date.
2010-09-02 18:53:18 UTC
that would be conforming to today's times which the bible takes about not conforming just because it's a society thing. plus it is history.
2010-09-02 18:53:09 UTC
Nope... The Word is complete in Jesus The Christ
?
2010-09-02 18:58:45 UTC
WHY DON'T YOU CHANGE AND LIVE TO GODS STANDARDS ? LOOK AT WHATS HAPPENING TO THE WORLD, PEOPLE ARE MORE HATEFUL, CRUEL AND DONT CARE OF WHATS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD
Liam
2010-09-02 18:56:05 UTC
I know this proves man created God i mean if he was real you cant just "

re-write " the words of God ...
?
2010-09-02 19:02:25 UTC
God is perfect, His words are perfect how do you propose to perfect perfection?
Meeprawr=)
2010-09-02 18:50:40 UTC
Yes!!!! It really does! Its so outdated it needs to be corrected so people don't take it so literally


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