Question:
any body who have an open mind plz ans this?
duwa
2006-10-19 04:14:16 UTC
u people are against the veil of muslim womens.now if u have an open mind then i a 100% sure u will agree with me.
in QURAN in SURAH NOOR(32,34) it is said that
"say to the muslim womens do keep their eyes downward.and protect themselves"
if this universe is the eye then the women is its sight similarly if women is the flower then women is its fragrance.if the flower will not protect it self then how much its fragrance will left?ALLAH is our creator and has HIKMAT in every thing he says or creats.
if a women covers her self she feels her self prtectedfrom all sides .if a women covers her self then nobody can even think bad of herself b/c by covering herself there occurs a great difference in her character.not only in islam see hazrat MARIYAM(A.S) in churces she is covered.if covering the body is such a bad thing in ur eyes then y there is a rule to cover her MUJASIMA.so its mean that not only in islam but in all religions veil is present there in some case.
28 answers:
2006-10-19 04:25:24 UTC
I'm not against the wearing of veils either.



I don't think your argument holds water though, even in the few places where it has some coherence. I suspect the problem might be that English is not your native language...is that correct? You might try separating your sentences more clearly, so that each statement in your argument stands out better. I also suspect you're going to need to define terms like "HIKMAT" and "MUJASIMA" if you're talking to people who are "against the veil of muslim womens".
Mavro S
2006-10-19 11:36:20 UTC
Don't listen to the people who call you retarded. It's not you. It's the books you read. It's your difficulty with the English language. Now my question is are you a man or a women? Most people in the world will always be against all forms of forced behavior especially when it is prejudice to one gender or another. Your theories about how a women will feel are all limited to people who have not grown up free of cults and religions. Even the cult of Christianity used to dictate what women wear several decades ago and in some dangerous fundaMENTAL Christian areas they still use dress codes. In fact all primitives use force to make people conditioned for power and for the eventual slaughter. That was a metaphor. Being slaughtered and losing your freedoms have the same meaning. Hope this helps but I really didn’t understand the question at all.
birdsflies
2006-10-19 11:42:18 UTC
I always have a open mind to someone's questions, But I also know when to close my mind from unbelieve. Now you really ask sevearal questions here, First of all the quran was wriitten way after the Bible, & no where in the Bible does it say a woman have to look downward, Now you bring up the topic about a woman being a flower, & said that flower has to protect itself, how much fragrance will be left. Did you know if a flower is completly cover up or even let's say 90% cover up, that flower will die, I know here in the USA, we have flowers that every morning open up their petals to welcome the sunlight, & close their petals at sunset. & we also have flowers that if it gets too hot will close their petals to protect themself from too much light that can kill them. Now onto your muslim women, We here in the USA don't treat our women this way, they are our help mate no not a slave, but a help mate & companion. A true Man will not down grade their women as you all do. Remember she is taken from Adam.
LeBlanc
2006-10-19 11:37:15 UTC
In surah Al -Noor it is also said that a man should cast his eyes downward and protect themselves from being sexually indecent. I am parapharsing, but it seems that what is sauce for goose is also sauce for gander.



There are Muslim men who wear veil among the Berber. Some of Moors of years in the past the men wore veils. Gaurding the individual chasity is internal and personal.



Wearing the physical veil of clothes covering guaruntees nothing. The "veil" being referred to as the protection is figurative and reprsents the control of our behaviour. Just because one is naked does not make one promiscious, as one who is fully clothe is not necessarily chaste. Guarding ones chasity is internal to the individual. Even the Chasity Belts of old were breached!



The verses are an appeal for self-control.
rebecca_sld
2006-10-19 11:27:50 UTC
I think the veils are fine if the women want to wear them. However, if they are forced to wear them, that is a different story. I don't want to hear about the fragrance of a flower, when the beauty of the flower must be veiled! It sounds as though you believe that when an unveiled woman is raped, it must be her fault for showing herself! If so, I must disagree! A man who would rape a woman knows what is under the veil, whether it is visible or not! And I know for fact that women with veils on HAVE been raped!
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2006-10-19 11:23:02 UTC
I understand the reason, i appreciate your right to do this if one chooses. however, i do not want to wear a veil. I did not grow up this way, do not choose to convert to this style or religion. however, i do not judge anyone who wishes to do so, i respect anyone and everyone decisions and choices as their right to choose. Live and let live, that is what makes this country such a wonderful place to be. If this works for you and you are happy with it, that is wonderful and OK i personally do not judge others by their choice of religious beliefs, style of dress, life style etc. If you like it i love it. I try very hard to respect everyone, i wish you the best, have a wonderful day and God or Allah bless you. My belief is everyone desires and deserves respect. Just my opinion. By the way, I am a christian woman and my best friend of 25 years follows Islam.
2006-10-19 11:44:03 UTC
The veil is by no means unique to Islam, as can be seen from the Bible.



"Then Rebekah and her servants mounted the camels and left with Abraham’s servant. Meanwhile, Isaac, whose home was in the Negev, had returned from Beer-lahairoi. One evening as he was taking a walk out in the fields, meditating, he looked up and saw the camels coming. When Rebekah looked up and saw Isaac, she quickly dismounted. “Who is that man walking through the fields to meet us?” she asked the servant.

And he replied, “It is my master.” So Rebekah covered her face with her veil" (Genesis 24:61- 65).



In the Song of Solomon the young woman is beaten as a whore for going out at night to search for her lover WITHOUT WEARING A VEIL.



This was not only an Old Testament injunction, but is also repeated in the New Testament. "But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered" (1 Corinthians 11:5f)



Some people take this to mean that .women should wear hats to go to church, but this is plain wrong. The covering referred to totally covered the hair as well as the nose and mouth. According to the customs of the time this was always worn in public and also in the presence of men who were not closely related.



I have no problems with women wearing veils today - it should be their choice based on what their individual consciences believe is right.
Mollywobbles
2006-10-19 15:53:57 UTC
There is nothing wrong with being modest or dressing to preserve modesty but a woman shouldn't have to cover themselves completely from head to toe or have downcast eyes for protection from men's lustful gazes. These types of men should practice self control over their desires instead of blaming women for tempting them.
punkin
2006-10-19 11:28:56 UTC
I have never heard any one say anything negative towards muslim women's dress. in fact most women I know or hear speaking on this subject feel kind of sorry for them in this heat in Florida.We as women respect muslim women as we women respect all women.It's the men we fear.We don't feel sorry in a negative way and maybe I am using rhe wrong word,but we have nothing bad to say to our muslim sisters.
2006-10-19 11:21:13 UTC
In Iran girls are wearing jeans and short mantos that are very fashionable with pretty thin coulerful scarves that let their hair fly out (I don't like that way of wearing scarves they should respect Islam).and they put on too much make up.How beautiful they are. what niqab?which country are you talking about?they are much more beautiful than American models and their beauty is natural.some tend to wear black because it's more formal than for example pink!In Iran some girls wear evey colur such as pink,purple,light green,yellow,orange but black is heavier than all of them.I like black colour too. veils cos women not to be looked at as sex-objects.
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2006-10-19 11:20:44 UTC
When you quote "say to the muslim womens do keep their eyes downward........" it really does not sound as if a law to wear a veil.

It does sound like a suggestion to keep your eyes from wandering towards evil things.
auld mom
2006-10-19 11:24:31 UTC
I have an open mind, but I don't think veiling oneself, in entirety, is a plus. It hides away what God himself created. To protect her? From what? A bunch of pigs who call themselves men that lack the ability to keep control over their bodies and emotions? Give me a break.



The only difference in her character is that she is hidden- physically, emotionally, and spiritually. What purpose, pray tell, does that serve? Covering ones head in church or wearing the hijab is a whole other subject from wearing the burqa.
Eureka!
2006-10-19 11:28:30 UTC
Well I have an open mind, yet I cant help thinkin that it's a bit sexist, why aren't the men permitted to protect themselves? Why does Allah want the men to be exposed and vulnerable?
saumitra s
2006-10-19 11:21:48 UTC
Your logic, pl.don't mind, is very loosely knotted. Covering of body is not synonymous with veil. Unnecessary covering cripples the mind and body as well. You think that women, by nature, are frail. This is the time to open your mind fast.
seraphim_pwns_u
2006-10-19 11:43:41 UTC
Hey, personally, I have no qualms about a Muslim woman who chooses to wear a scarf or modest, well-covering clothes (like, say, a long dress and a long-sleeved blouse). That's their choice, and wanting to not cause themselves or another to sin is good. My personal issue is with the burqa. In my opinion, covering yourself completely in that manner elevates modesty to such a degree that they stick out like a sore thumb. ...that's no longer modesty. I dunno, but to me, it screams out paradoxically, "Hey, look at me, I'm so modest that you can't see me!".



It no longer is a sign of willful and honest modesty and humility, but rather, one of forced or false humility.



As to looking downward, I don't know about Arabic society, but here, in western society, keeping your eyes to the ground is a mark of bearing shame, guilt, and humiliation. It is a sign of having done evil or criminal acts, and recognizing it. Avoiding eye contact shows that you are inferior (not necessarily submissive, but rather inferior and weaker) to the one looking at you.



I can understand how you view both a downward gaze and a burqa as marks of righteous humility... I just hope you understand how we view them as marks of shameful bondage/self-righteousness, and oppression from bearing guilt.



...And as to Christianity... God gave women a veil. It's called "long hair".
2006-10-19 11:15:52 UTC
wow, I'm against veils?...thanks for telling me how I feel.

If you want to wear one great, if you don't great. What you DO NOT have the right to do is tell other women how to live their lives.

PLUS-your logic makes no sense. "If a woman covers herself she feels herself protected"????

"If a woman covers herself then nobody can think bad of her b/c by covering herself there occurs a difference in her character"????

Why would covering yourself affect your character? you are the same person no matter what you are wearing
NO delusions
2006-10-19 11:24:42 UTC
what's your point. A women should have the freedom to cover herself or not cover herself. It should be the woman's choice and not the religion's.
Ted T
2006-10-19 11:27:34 UTC
I believe the treatment of women in arab culture has more to do with male domination than religion. Sad but true.
Ha Ha!
2006-10-19 11:19:51 UTC
Okay. Do what you want to do. I have no problem with you wanting to wear your veil. I'll pray for you.
Agnostic Messiah
2006-10-19 11:19:08 UTC
I knew that.... I served some time in Saudi and Kuwait.....



Please understand that not all of US Americans support what the Majority are doing to your people....
Collared
2006-10-19 11:21:09 UTC
I appreciate you trying to explain and make some people understand a little of how you live, but you need to really make yourself understood first. How do you expect us to learn when you can't make yourself clear.
nondescript
2006-10-19 11:23:41 UTC
Sorry, but I don't use old books with religious rants in them to judge fashion. Women can where whatever they want. I don't care.
onglee b
2006-10-19 11:23:14 UTC
b comfortable and at peace with everyone...let us not start endless debate...nothing is good nor bad..in this present world..eg..one might think hunting is good but others just cannot accept this hobby.
P P
2006-10-19 11:19:02 UTC
Well they ought to cover themselves and stay indoors. Why the peephole to see everyone else and no one else can see them?
winorlose9
2006-10-19 11:33:27 UTC
ty for telling me what i think about. stop wasting everyone's time and get a life, nobody cares
2006-10-19 11:19:09 UTC
an open mind would be to let them show their faces...why not? Thats too hot like that but this isnt a religious question Just about customs
2006-10-19 11:17:28 UTC
You should rephrase your question.. "any body who can understand retard plz ans this?"



I reeeeeeally have no idea wtf your on about.
2006-10-22 17:22:59 UTC
Have you read this book ?

What is your opinion, from the list below, provided by Spencer in his book?



The Truth About Muhammad

by Robert Spencer



Meet the real Muhammad:





Muhammad's bizarre reaction to his first "revelation": "I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself"



The heretical Christian who convinced Muhammad he was a prophet – and may have taught him his erroneous views of Christianity



Islamic borrowings from Judaism, Christianity, and Zoroastrianism – and Muhammad's enraged replies to charges that he borrowed material rather than received actual divine revelations



The "revelation" that allowed Muhammad to marry his beautiful daughter-in-law



The strange incident in Muhammad's life that makes it virtually impossible to prove rape in Islamic countries today



The real "Satanic Verses" incident (not the Salman Rushdie version): how Muhammad's attempt to win over his opponents ended with his saying he had been inspired not by God, but by Satan



How the Qur'an's teaching on warfare against unbelievers developed – with constant war to establish the hegemony of Islamic law as the last stage



The first year of the Muslim calendar: not when Muhammad was born or became a prophet, but when he became a warlord



How Muhammad used the graphic lure of Islamic Paradise to urge his warriors to fight furiously to extend his rule



"Kill every Jew who comes into your power": why Muhammad became so angry with both Jews and Christians – with disastrous consequences that are still playing out in the world today



The momentous command by Muhammad that led to good being identified with anything that benefited the Muslims, and evil with anything that harmed them --without reference to any larger moral standard



Muhammad's child bride – and the terrible consequences his marriage to a nine-year-old still has in the Islamic world



"This is the caravan of the Quraysh possessing wealth. It is likely that Allah may give it to you as booty": how Muhammad gave divine sanction to the Muslims' bloody raids



"War is deceit": the permission Muhammad gave his followers to lie in order to gain an advantage over their enemies



How Muhammad broke the principal treaty he entered into, again setting a pattern for Muslim states thereafter



Muhammad's commands to his followers to wage perpetual war against non-Muslims, including Jews and Christians



Muhammad on women's rights: women "are prisoners with you having no control of their persons"



"If justice is not to be found with me then where will you find it?" Why Muhammad still stands for Muslims as the supreme model for human behavior



"I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula, and will not leave any but Muslims" – and other statements by Muhammad that contemporary jihadists take very seriously



Islamic tolerance? The onerous tax burden and other discriminatory regulations mandated for non-Muslims under Islamic law



How Muhammad ordered the killing of apostates from Islam



The massacre of a Jewish tribe by Muhammad that was invoked by modern-day jihadists at the beginning of Israel's July 2006 operations against Hizballah in Lebanon



"Embrace Islam, and your lives and property will be safe": Muhammad's threatening letters to the rulers of the lands around Arabia



Muhammad's frequent avowals that the Muslims would overcome the empires bordering on Arabia and one day stand as masters of the world



"I have been made victorious with terror" – and other statements of Muhammad on his deathbed



Six steps that American leaders can and must take in order to protect our nation from Islamic jihad terrorism



ROBERT SPENCER





ROBERT SPENCER, the director of Jihad Watch, a project of the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Spencer is a writer and researcher who has written six books, eight monographs, and well over a hundred articles about jihad and Islamic terrorism. His latest book is the New York Times bestseller The Truth About Muhammad (Regnery). He is also the author of the New York Times bestseller The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) (Regnery), as well as Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About the World's Fastest Growing Faith (Encounter) and Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West (Regnery). He is coauthor, with Daniel Ali, of Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics (Ascension), and editor of the essay collection The Myth of Islamic Tolerance: How Islamic Law Treats Non-Muslims (Prometheus).



Spencer (MA, Religious Studies, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) has been studying Islamic theology, law, and history in depth since 1980. He is an Adjunct Fellow with the Free Congress Foundation, and his monographs on Islam are available from the Foundation: An Introduction to the Qur'an; Women and Islam; An Islamic Primer; Islam and the West; The Islamic Disinformation Lobby; Islam vs. Christianity; and Jihad in Context.



His articles on Islam and other topics have appeared in the New York Post, the Washington Times, the Dallas Morning News, Canada's National Post, Middle East Quarterly, FrontPage Magazine.com, WorldNet Daily, Insight in the News, Human Events, National Review Online, and many other journals. He has consulted with United States Central Command on Islam and jihad, and has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism at a workshop sponsored by the U.S. State Department and the German Foreign Ministry, as well as on the BBC, CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, PBS, C-Span, and Croatia National Televison (HTV), as well as on numerous radio programs including Michael Savage's Savage Nation, The Alan Colmes Show, The G. Gordon Liddy Show, The Neal Boortz Show, The Michael Medved Show, The Michael Reagan Show, The Rusty Humphries Show, The Larry Elder Show, The Barbara Simpson Show, Vatican Radio, and many others.



FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS



Q: Why should I believe what you say about Islam?

RS: Because I draw no conclusions of myself, and I do not ask anyone to take anything on my word. Pick up any of my books, and you will see that they are made up largely of quotations from Islamic jihadists and the traditional Islamic sources to which they appeal to justify violence and terrorism. I am only shedding light on what these sources say.



It is amusing to me that some people like to focus on my credentials, when I have never made a secret of the fact that most of what I know about Islam comes from personal study. It is easier for them to talk about degrees than to find any inaccuracy in my work. Yet I present the work not on the basis of my credentials, but on the basis of the evidence I bring forth; evaluate it for yourself. One example: after I spoke at the University of North Carolina, Professor Carl Ernst of the university wrote a piece about me warning that my books were non-scholarly and were published by presses that he believed reflected a political agenda of which he did not approve. That kind of approach may impress some people, but Carl Ernst did not (and cannot) bring forth even a single example of a supposed inaccuracy in my work. I would, of course, be happy to debate Carl Ernst or any other scholar of Islam about Islam and jihad; this is a standing invitation. Also, as this site has shown, I am always open to new information.



Q: Why have you studied Islam for so long?

RS: It has been an enduring fascination. Since childhood I have had an interest in the Muslim world, from which my family comes. When I was very young my grandparents would tell me stories about their life there, and I always heard them with great interest. When I met Muslim students as a college undergraduate I began reading and studying the Qur'an in earnest. That led to in-depth forays into tafsir (interpretations of the Qur'an), hadith (traditions of the Prophet Muhammad), and much more about Islamic theology and law. While working on my master's thesis, which dealt not with Islam but (in part) with some early Christian heretical groups, I began to study early Islamic history, since some of these groups ended up in Arabia and may have influenced Muhammad. In the intervening years I continued these studies of Islamic theology, history, and law out of personal interest.



This led to my consulting privately with some individuals and groups about Islam, but I had never intended to do such work publicly. However, after 9/11 I was asked to write Islam Unveiled in order to correct some of the misapprehensions about Islam that were widespread at that time.



Q: I've read that you are secretly a Catholic and have a religious agenda.

RS: Yes, I have been so intent on keeping this a secret that I co-wrote a book called Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics. Here again, people like to imagine that a Christian cannot write accurately about Islam, but they cannot point to any inaccuracy in my work. Nor is there any religious agenda here. I envision Jihad Watch as an opportunity for all the actual and potential victims of jihad violence and oppression -- Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, secular Muslims, atheists, whatever -- to join together to defend universal human rights. There are many things about which we all disagree, but at this point we need to unite simply in order to survive. We can sort out our disagreements later.



At this point the people most active, in various ways, in the work of Jihad Watch are a Catholic, a Jew, and an atheist. If we weren't so busy trying to awaken the Western world to the threat of violent jihad, we could walk into a bar and...(fill in your own punchline).



Q: I've read that you are a member of Opus Dei.

RS: Uh, sorry, no.



Q: I've read that you are actually Jewish.

RS: Again, no. Jihadists commonly label all their opponents as Jews. They don't seem to realize that they have offended more groups than just one. I am honored to be able to stand with Jews and others in defense of human rights against the totalitarian, supremacist jihad ideology.



Q: I've read that you are actually a Maoist.

RS: Strike three. Here are some more responses to critics.



Q: Why do so many people convert to Islam?

RS: There are many attractive elements of the religion. I think that its adamantine certainties appeal to many people who are disgusted with the current relativism and amorality of the Western world. Also there are many rich and grand aspects of Islamic history and culture which also make the religion attractive today. The global jihad against the West today also helps Islam gather converts in the West from among groups that feel themselves to be oppressed or marginalized. Conversions have been stimulated by successful, if often fanciful, Muslim efforts to present Islam as a religion free of the sins of the West -- particularly racial discrimination.



Q: Do you hate Muslims?

RS: Of course not. Islam is not a monolith, and never have I said or written anything that characterizes all Muslims as terrorist or given to violence. I am only calling attention to the roots and goals of jihad violence. Any Muslim who renounces violent jihad and dhimmitude is welcome to join in our anti-jihadist efforts. Any hate in my books comes from Muslim sources I quote, not from me. Cries of "hatred" and "bigotry" are effectively used by American Muslim advocacy groups to try to stifle the debate about the terrorist threat. But there is no substance to them.



It is not an act of hatred against Muslims to point out the depredations of jihad ideology. It is a peculiar species of displacement and projection to accuse someone who exposes the hatred of one group of hatred himself: I believe in the equality of rights and dignity of all people, and that is why I oppose the global jihad. And I think that those who make the charge know better in any case: they use the charge as a tool to frighten the credulous and politically correct away from the truth.



Am I "anti-Muslim"? Some time ago here at Jihad Watch I had an exchange with an English convert to Islam. I said: "I would like nothing better than a flowering, a renaissance, in the Muslim world, including full equality of rights for women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies: freedom of conscience, equality in laws regarding legal testimony, equal employment opportunities, etc." Is all that "anti-Muslim"? My correspondent thought so. He responded: "So, you would like to see us ditch much of our religion and, thereby, become non-Muslims."



In other words, he saw a call for equality of rights for women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies, including freedom of conscience, equality in laws regarding legal testimony, and equal employment opportunities, as a challenge to his religion. To the extent that they are, these facts have to be confronted by both Muslims and non-Muslims. But I make no apologies: it is not "anti-Muslim" to wish freedom of conscience and equality of rights on the Islamic world -- quite the contrary.



Q: Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

RS: See above.



Q: Are you trying to incite anti-Muslim hatred?

RS: Certainly not. I am trying to point out the depth and extent of the hatred that is directed against the United States, because I believe that the efforts to downplay its depth and extent leave us less equipped to defend ourselves. As I said above, the focus here is on jihad; any Muslim who renounces the ideologies of jihad and dhimmitude is most welcome to join forces with us. Anyone who targets innocent Muslims in the USA is not only evil, but is playing into the hands of the jihadists who are trying to fan the flames of anti-American hatred. Also, one of the reasons why the war on terror is so important is that those who would destroy Western civilization do not believe in the principles of due process and justice that are central elements of the American system.



Q: Are you deliberately ignoring more liberal schools of thought in Islam?

RS: Certainly not. I encourage any Muslim individual or group who is willing to work publicly for the reform of the Islamic doctrines, theological tenets and laws that Islamic jihadists use to justify violence. But this must be done honestly and thoroughly, confronting the texts of the Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira that are used to justify violence against unbelievers, and decisively rejecting Qur'anic literalism. Not all self-proclaimed moderates are truly moderate: many deny that these elements of Islam exist at all — hardly a promising platform for reform. It is important to make proper distinctions and speak honestly about the roots of the terrorist threat.



Q: I have read that you support forced deportation of US citizens who happen to be Muslim, harassment of law-abiding US Muslims (boycotting of their businesses, refusal to renew their cab medallions, refusal of their business permits) and other similar actions.

RS: I absolutely do not support such actions. Any Muslim who accepts the U.S. Constitution and American pluralism should act to defend the U.S. now, when it is under attack in many ways. Any Muslim who does this I count as a friend, and welcome into the U.S. I am not in favor of harassing or expelling loyal Muslims from the U.S.



Q: But I have read that you advocate making the practice of Islam "difficult" in the U.S.

RS: I would like to see the practice of violent jihad made difficult. I would like to see the spread of violence that is justified in the name of Islam made quite difficult in the U.S. and elsewhere. I would like to see efforts to impose the Sharia in the U.S. and elsewhere, however long it may take and even by peaceful means, made difficult. I would like to see the institutionalized oppression of non-Muslims and women made difficult. I am not concerned about the other aspects of Islam.



Q: Can you recommend a good English translation of the Qur'an?

RS: N. J. Dawood's is the most readable in English. However, most versions do not mark the verse numbers precisely. Some non-Muslims don't like it because he uses "God" for Allah, although since Arabic-speaking Christians use "Allah" for the God of the Bible, and have for over a millennium, this is a problem for poseurs and pseudo-scholars but is not really a serious objection to anyone who knows both languages. Also, many Muslims dislike this translation because Dawood was not a Muslim, and doesn't sugarcoat any of the passages. Two translations by Muslims, those by Abdullah Yusuf Ali and Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, are generally reliable, although both write in a stilted, practically unreadable pseudo-King James Bible English. Of the two, Ali's contains more liberties with the text -- such as adding "(lightly)" to Sura 4:34 after the directive to husbands to beat their disobedient wives. The Arabic doesn't say to beat them lightly, it just says to beat them. Pickthall's is generally accurate.



There are other good translations. For years I have liked Arberry's for its audacious literalism and often poetic English. Compare, for example, 81:15-18:



فَلَا أُقْسِمُ بِالْخُنَّسِ الْجَوَارِ الْكُنَّسِ وَاللَّيْلِ إِذَا عَسْعَسَ وَالصُّبْحِ إِذَا تَنَفَّسَ

...in Pickthall and Arberry: Pickthall: "Oh, but I call to witness the planets, the stars which rise and set, and the close of night, and the breath of morning..." Arberry: "No! I swear by the slinkers, the runners, the sinkers, by the night swarming, by the dawn sighing..." Shades of the Symbolists. Arberry gives a hint of how the book sounds in Arabic, in which it is full of beguiling rhymes and rhythms.



Q: What can we do about this threat?

RS: Many things, but what we must do above all is remain true to our principles of freedom and equality of rights and dignity for all. These ideas and related ones are what set us apart from global jihadists. If we discard them in order to fight the jihadists, we risk erasing the distinction between the two camps.



Q: What is Jihad Watch?

RS: Jihad Watch is an attempt to raise awareness about the activities of the global jihadists. We are a 501c3 organization affiliated with the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Our Board of Directors consists of:



* Robert Spencer, President, author of six books on jihad terrorism;



* Hugh Fitzgerald, Vice President, a regular writer at Jihad Watch;



* Ibn Warraq, editor of many books on the Qur'an and early Islam;



* Tashbih Sayyed, editor-in-chief of Muslim World Today; and



* James Jatras, attorney and author of articles on a variety of topics.

Q: Why are you doing this?

RS: Jihad ideology is a threat to the peace and human rights of non-Muslims as well as Muslims worldwide. If it is not confronted and resisted, it will prevail.



JIHAD WATCH IN THE MEDIA



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Robert Spencer has discussed jihad and Islam on the following programs:



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CBN-TV, "700 Club"

MSNBC, "Nachman"

Croatia National Television - HTV, "Kontraplan"





Radio:



"Vatican Radio"

"Voice of America"

"The BBC"

"ABC Radio News"

"Fox Across America"

"The Alan Colmes Show"

"The Neal Boortz Show"

"The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly"

"The Michael Savage Show: The Savage Nation"

"The Michael Reagan Show"

"The Michael Medved Show"

"The G. Gordon Liddy Show"

"The Dennis Prager Show"

"The Barbara Simpson Show"

"The Larry Elder Show"

"The Laurie Roth Show"

"NPR, The Tavis Smiley Show"

"The Jerry Doyle Show"

"The Barry Farber Show"

"The Bob Dornan Show"

"The Ken Hamblin Show"

"Daybreak USA"

"The David Brudnoy Show"

"The Rusty Humphries Show"

"Shmuley" with Shmuley Boteach

"The Diner Show"

"Rambling with Gambling" with John Gambling

"Talking Sense" with Rabbi Aryeh Spero

"Point of View" with Marlon Maddox

"The Bob Grant Show"

"The Laura Ingraham Show"

"The Tom Marr Show"

"The Don Feder Show"

"Mancow"

"The Right Balance with Greg Allen;

. . . and hundreds of other programs


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