Question:
If God's chosen people are Jewish, where does that leave Christians?
2008-11-14 01:06:05 UTC
If Jews are God's chosen people, shouldn't Christians convert to being Jewish instead of Christian? Doesn't seem like God really likes Christians too much. Seems to me that he already chose the Jews. Don't hate, I am just quoting the Bible.

How do Christians feel about being the red-headed step child next to Jews?
Sixteen answers:
Hatikvah
2008-11-14 12:50:09 UTC
The Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) was written by Jews, for Jews, and about Jews. Surely you didn't expect the Egyptians to be the "chosen" ones!



Christians have also written a book for Christians and about Christians. Rather than becoming the "chosen" ones, their book is about condemnation of others.



They Egyptians also had a book. It was the "Book of the Dead." Their book was about the afterlife and instructions for preparing their gods (pharoahs) for his journey into the afterlife.



Muslims also have a book written for and about Muslims. It is called the Quran. I haven't read their book, but I would guess that Muslims also have a special place in their book!



There were no gentiles until Jesus???? A gentile is a person of another nation, i.e. Egypt, Assyria, etc. There has always been many gentiles!

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2015-05-05 13:46:44 UTC
The covenant that God made with Abraham God did say that Israel would be his people and he would be their God Jesus said I came first to seek and save the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Upon the Jews rejection of the Jews Jesus as the long promised Messiah then God sent the Apostle Paul to the gentile Nation and Preached the plan of salvation, after the death of Jesus on the cross and the prophesied Resurrection, the Gentiles accepted this Gospel. We know that Israel is God's chosen people but for their rebellion they have been scattered all over the world and hated and mistreated more than any race on earth.

But God's plan of salvation is a free gift to all who will repent and believe the gospel. In respect God Love Jews And gentiles alike are that are born again by the spirit of God are his people, Israel was his first the gentile grafted into the vine(Jesus Christ) and all will be with God in the new kingdom, The Jew must accept Jesus the same as the Gentile, they have no special preference in the plan of salvation.

Rev,Curt Atkinson.Th.D
Cher and Cher alike
2008-11-14 14:53:08 UTC
Your using Christian concepts of the word "chosen".



The Jewish concept of OUR word, just means we chose his commandments & he chose a convenant to go with them. It doesn't exclude anyone else from having a convenant with him, or having a good relationship with God. It doesn't mean more special than or better than. It you watch carefully, it's not the Jews going around saying we're "chosen" to everyone. (Check out who says it the next time you see someone say it.)



The Christian idea of special in the definition was needed in order to go through replacement theology of making themselves better than. Otherwise, replacing doesn't make sense.



On Gentiles, it means someone not Jewish & that's all it means. It does not specifically mean Christian, although when living in countries predominatly Christian it did take on the secondary meaning some of the time. That was a thousands of years after the Tanakh was written, so it just means one of the people of the other nations of the world.
2008-11-14 14:23:24 UTC
Definitions of "gentile":

1. of or pertaining to any people not Jewish.

2. Christian, as distinguished from Jewish.

3. Mormon Church. not Mormon.

4. heathen or pagan.

5. (of a linguistic expression) expressing nationality or local origins.

6. of or pertaining to a tribe, clan, people, nation, etc.

–noun 7. a person who is not Jewish, esp. a Christian.

8. (among Mormons) a person who is not a Mormon.

9. a heathen or pagan.



So, duh, you see that a gentile can be a Christian, but it also means anyone who is not Jewish. Duh!



Remember what Mark Twain said: "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."



You have removed all doubt.
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2016-05-28 13:50:21 UTC
Because its a pill I couldn't swallow in the end. I reject ALL religious dogma and belief in the supernatural. The rational approach to these things is that they are mere figments of the imagination until proven otherwise. Or, as Occam's Razor puts it: one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything. There are plenty of excellent scientific and psychological explanations for religious beliefs (fear of death, conformism, seeking comfort in strong leadership, madness etc.) and most "supernatural" experiences (people's minds playing tricks on them, natural phenomena or simply fraud), so there's really nothing "mystical" about them. In those (few) cases where science hasn't yet provided a satisfactory answer, it will almost certainly do so in due time. In any case there is no valid reason to ever abandon the scientific method in favor of random explanations based on superstition. Apart from rejecting religion and superstition on scientific grounds, I also dislike the very idea of some omnipotent entity controlling and/or judging our lives, or that there are "supernatural" forces which are fundamentally beyond our control, for, if such forces actually existed, we could never be truly free. Or, as as Robert G. Ingersoll so eloquently puts it: "When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell. The dungeon was flooded with light and all the bolts and bars and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf, or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world, not even in infinite space. I was free--free to think, to express my thoughts--free to live my own ideal, free to live for myself and those I loved, free to use all my faculties, all my senses, free to spread imagination's wings, free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope, free to judge and determine for myself...I was free! I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously faced all worlds".
Kosher Ninja Chick JPA
2008-11-14 12:42:33 UTC
We are not 'chosen' in the sense of 'special' or 'superior'.



We are just 'chosen' to keep more laws.



Judaism says that we are ALL equally G-d's children. All humans are EQUAL.



The righteous of all faiths will reach heaven.



And nobody has to be Jewish to know G-d. Every single human being on this planet can reach G-d, anywhere and any time - they just have to speak to him.



So no Christians need to become Jewish. We are all equal :)



http://www.ajewwithaview.com
Chaya
2008-11-14 14:57:57 UTC
The underlying assumption of your question fails. Choosing/agreeing Torah is not the same as the 'teacher's pet' reading of "Chosen" people you put forth.



Jealous competition, loathing and murder has been one feeling of your incorrect reading of what "chosen" is, which your final sentence tries to provoke. So why do you provoke dissension?
pugjw9896
2008-11-14 01:19:39 UTC
The Jews are no longer God's chosen people.

They have NOT been ever since Peter took the " Good News" to the GENTILES, non-Jews, starting with the Roman, Cornelius. Acts 10; 27-34.



Acts 10; 34 At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.



So from then on, the whole world was regarded by God as " the tribes of Israel"



And the 144,000 special ones [ Revelation 7;4 and 14;1 ] are FROM the whole world's population .
2008-11-14 01:35:49 UTC
"If God's chosen people are Jewish, where does that leave Christians?"

Out in the cold where they should be, the Schadenfreudian psychopaths.



Schadenfreude: to delight in the misfortune of others.

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surgigirl
2008-11-14 01:11:53 UTC
another misquote...but don't worry, your not the only one.

You can't take a verse here and a verse from there and think you have it all figured out. God made man, and everything else, His word tells us the Jew and the Gentiles. Christ came, therefore we are all sealed by His shed blood, if only we believe and accept this free gift..

The bible points so much to the coming promise, that provided salvation to all.



Oh and to answer your step child thing...you are wrong about that too, when He sees me, He sees Christ that lives in me, and one day I will see Him face to face.

But even if you were right, I wouldn't care, i will go no matter who i was. I don't deserve His Love.
2008-11-14 01:13:54 UTC
You haven't read a lot of the Bible or you would have seen that God came to the Gentiles. That's in the book of Acts. Read it again.
2008-11-14 01:13:09 UTC
Anybody who believes the whole bible, implicitly, needs help, it is just a collection of man made stories that have been rewritten and re-interpreted over centuries!
great gig in the sky
2008-11-14 01:10:01 UTC
Christ came as a Messiah to the Jews, and to the Gentiles. Am I mad I have to share? No.

And does having red hair bother me, not at all. It's sort of brownish red anyways.

What kind of insult is that?
Queenuveverything
2008-11-14 01:12:50 UTC
you are wasting your time. Most "christians" dont know a darn thing about history...let alone their own religion.



Ha!
2008-11-14 01:18:52 UTC
"Chosen People" is not specific, and could mean different many things. Tay-Sachs disease is most common amongst Jews.
himan275
2008-11-14 01:10:25 UTC
you are not quoting the bible.



what happens to the jews on judgement day? cmon, what happens?



the space god kills them all


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