Question:
Who is most likely to turn up, Evolutions missing link or Christianity's missing Jesus?
2006-09-12 10:45:51 UTC
nobody has ever pinned down any real evidence for Jesus he appears to be a character in a book only, there is a mountain of evidence on the other hand for evolution but Christians make much of the missing link that proves man and apes are descended from a common ancestor...whose missing person will turn up eventually and whose won't do you think?
Twenty answers:
Franklin
2006-09-12 10:53:54 UTC
There really isn't a "missing link" anymore. They're finding fossils that appear to be early forms of humans all the time. Evolution has never been disproven and those that try usually have no understanding of it at all.
NumberCruncher
2006-09-12 17:53:20 UTC
Evolution is a theory just like the "Theory" of relativity. Therefore evolution is just another branch of study.

Christianity on the other hand is a book of so-called "facts" some of which prove true simply because there are events which actually happened in history that ended up in there book (duh??). I mean its pretty unlikely any author would attempt or even be able to write a book without using references to current events/things. So Evolution or the final completion of that study will definitely come first.

And as far as christianity is concerned eventually it too will become history and people will scoff and laugh at the thought that it ever existed.Just like some people do now in regards to the greek mythos,or the roman pagan cultures, etc....
Mr. Agappae
2006-09-12 18:12:18 UTC
Since the THeory of Evolution has been proposed by Darwin, there have been absolutly No "missing links" found whatsoever... and that is a fact-not my oppinion



Unless you have missing links- you have no evolution-



Of course you can make up fake fossils and sculptures, and computer images of animals that never existed just to try and proove your belief... this is what several Evolutionist have done... and many gulible people, choose to believe in it. All of those humaniod ape-men- are frauds, bits and peices from different species. For instince one of these ape-men was constructed from a pigs tooth, another was contructed from an apes skull, another was constructed from a native American- Talk about racist- telling the world that this sub-human was constrcucted from an exitinct species... when it is a natives skelliton... how sad...



Oh and the last " so called ape man" before , "modern man" has absolutly no distiction between modern man at all...



There cannot just be one, "missing link", but there has to be millions linking between animals to give Evolution some ground on factual evidence... too bad there is no such thing as a missing link.



Scientific law states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed in form... by natural means...



Wow, that fact sort of contradicts evolution's origin of the universe, does it not...evolution states that everything, laws, light, partricles formed from nothing...



Problem: particles of the atom-[ neutron, and proton]- have no attraction... so if by some miricle that those particles, from nothing, formed a stable nucleus before drifting off into infinity- and at the same time formed a stable electron orbit, traveling at insane speeds...



guess what that is just one atom.... most everything is made up of countless atoms...



chance of evolution senario: oddless.



Wow, using this mountain load just downright prooves evolution don't it?



Science is based upon Fact NOT Theory, upon real evidence- not assumptions...



So in conclusion the Theory of Evolution is no more than a suedo-science, a religion, an alternative belief system for those that are too closed minded to believe in God, Not a science. You can't call yourself a scientist, and at the same time claim evolution as fact without factual evidence, only mere oppinion



It is sad how people will choose to believe in anything short of insanity and beyond than in God...





But if you are closedminded from all things, including facts, that are appart from your ideology- then you are un-reasonable.



So your basically arguing the truth as you see it vs. the facts as they are.



If you want to believe that logic, laughter, art, self-awareness, language... formed by oddless chance... you go right ahead...if you want to believe that the universe formed from a speck from nothing, which contradicts scientific law, be my guest, that is your own blind faith...



sad how you will believe in insanity and illogical oppinion than in God...



I'm praying for you,



God bless you and yours
Shane
2006-09-12 18:00:37 UTC
OK think about this. The missing link is the evolutionary stage between man and ape. If we evolved it makes perfect sense that we (men) were once in this stage. However, not just one person would be in this stage, everyone would. This is reassured to us by evolutionists all the time when they show us how a Field rat became a bat. They show the species as it evolved and attempt to prove it with the countless skeletons they unearth. The problem is this however, with the missing link theory. Based on the evidence evolutionists show us for the evolution of other species, there would be not just one missing link, but thousands, even hundreds of thousands-if not millions. We have yet to find a single missing link however. As for Christianity:



The bible is not the only proof of Jesus' existence. He is an actual pr oven historical person. Whether you believe he was the Son of God or not however is only a matter of belief/faith and not science.



Now to answer your question. Evolutions missing link, even if it does turn up cannot prove the evolution of man to ape unless many many many mi sing links were found. Secondly, as for Christianity's "missing Jesus". He is not missing to the Christian's. He is present in the lives of his people, he is even present in the lives of those who will not follow him, although they fail to recognize him and believe him to be missing. But most importantly, he is present in the Eucharist!
K
2006-09-12 18:13:41 UTC
If God allowed man to come into existence through the evolutionary process then how is the creation of Eve explained? The Scriptures teach that she was created by God out of one of Adam's ribs (Gen. 2:22). The consequences of denying the truth of Gen. 2:22 is to deny the validity and authority of Jesus Christ; for Jesus, quoting from the book of Genesis declared, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female'" (Mk. 10:6). There is no way to accept both Jesus' words and a theory which includes the process of evolution. Its interesting that you question the life of Jesus but not of Abraham Lincoln, George Washington ect. We have never met these men, we have only read about them in a book....

The divine predictions given centuries before concerning what would take place were frequently referred to by the apostles when they preached the gospel. These references have been divinely recorded for our assurance and conviction.The fact that we not only have credible, eyewitness testimony concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, but also have these and many more amazing detailed prophecies concerning these events leaves no excuse for disbelief (Mk. 16:16). The term "theistic evolution" is actually an oxymoron. "Theism" is the belief in the existence of God, especially belief in a personal God as Creator and Ruler of the world. "Evolution" is the theory that life developed by chance out of inorganic material and then grew over a period of millions of years in complexity and variety into all the species we have today. Though much more could be stated, it should be obvious that theistic evolution and the Scriptures cannot be harmonized.
lenny
2006-09-12 17:53:17 UTC
If Jesus ever lived, he's certainly not coming back. There will always be 'missing links' in evolution, unless we can recover all the bodies of all organisms that ever lived, which is certainly not going to happen either.



I put the odds of either of these at approximately 0.
2006-09-12 17:52:21 UTC
The missing link has already been found, but never to a believer's satisfaction. Creation advocates want transitional fossils from the common ancestor up to humans, but just as you can keep dividing a number in half down to infinity, they will always demand more transitional fossils between transitional fossils. Never mind the amount of organisms that have lived throughout time and the small fraction of them that are able to become fossils (and not decompose completely).
sunflare63
2006-09-12 17:49:47 UTC
Actually , let me get u straight, there is real evidence of Jesus, and the fact is JESUS LIVES.

When it hits u one day, u will wake up and see that Jesus is all too real.

From experience, u should never doubt the existence of JESUS.

THe book is magical and all too real even the words in the bible are all too powerful and will make too much positive happen in your life if u just engulf it in your mind and heart.
2006-09-12 17:49:01 UTC
The missing link has been found for evolution, it's no longer the "missing link"



The missing hip bone to prove evolution to biped was found years ago.
ktjokt
2006-09-12 17:53:04 UTC
Jesus is more likely.. I believe that Jesus IS the missing link.
?
2006-09-12 17:49:14 UTC
Evolution's missing link , of course!
YDoncha_Blowme
2006-09-12 17:52:28 UTC
Ill wager on the Missing Link....he was a real character....
2006-09-12 17:50:00 UTC
From Paul Harvey:



I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue

somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I

don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a

lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory

of evolution.



Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be

endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer

before a football game.



So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there

Reading the entire book of Acts. They're just ta lking to a

God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the

Players on the field and the fans going home from the game.



But it's a Christian prayer, some will argue.



Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country

Founded on Christian principles. According to our very

own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others

Better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody

Chanting Hare Krishna?



If I went to a football game in Jerusalem,

I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.





If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad,

I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.



If I went to a ping pong match in China,

I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.





And I wouldn't be offended.

It wouldn't bother me one bit.

When in Rome .



But what about the atheists? is another argument.



What about them?

Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to

pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If

that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear

plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand.

Call your lawyer!



Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or

two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do.

I don't think a short prayer at a football game is

going to shake the world's foundations.



Christians ar e just sick and tired of turning the other

cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our

parents and grandparents taught us to pray before

eating; to pray before we go to sleep.



Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a

handful of people and their lawyers are telling us

to cease praying.



God, help us.

And if that last sentence offends you,

well .. just sue me.
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2006-09-12 17:58:36 UTC
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thomasnotdoubting
2006-09-12 17:51:12 UTC
Jesus has been proven and there is no missing link.

You really need to study more, your statements won't sound as foolish.



We are worth a Son to God.
BeeFree
2006-09-12 17:51:38 UTC
For every piece of "evidence" evolution has, there are a hundred problems with it.
jsjmlj
2006-09-12 17:53:32 UTC
jesus , because you don't need any kind of evidence for this to happen , just faith .
Investigation Specialist
2006-09-12 17:48:23 UTC
Jesus Christ, because Evolution was disproven over 50 years ago.
RB
2006-09-12 17:49:29 UTC
Jesus will be back. It's not evolution, but fact.
jon_uk
2006-09-13 22:11:20 UTC
I have just read splinterjah's response and they obviously dont know anything about the scientific theories that they are dismissing and are speaking from complete ignorance. I've put comments from the original answer below in quotes.



They start by saying "Since the THeory of Evolution has been proposed by Darwin, there have been absolutly No "missing links" found whatsoever... and that is a fact-not my oppinion."



In fact, a number of transitionary forms have been found, the most well known and best preserved being Archaeopteryx. Archaeopteryx is considered a transitionary form between reptile and bird, as it has many obvious features that modern lack e.g. bones in much of the tail. It possesses a toothed mouth like reptiles unlike the toothless beak which all birds possess. It also has claws, again like a reptile, but it also has feathers which are one of the main criteria for taxonomic classification as a bird.





Next, "Unless you have missing links- you have no evolution"



Again, splinterjah isnt properly informed, transitionary forms are not the only evidence for evolution. In reality, the fossil record shows a huge variety of extinct organisms, especially marine organisms such as ammonites, due to a higher chance of fossils forming in the oceans. The fossil record is further evidence for evolution, as it shows animals which are unable to adapt to changing environmentals become extinct. But I wonder how creationists would explain these extinct animals if not by evolution? There is also DNA evidence which can trace the progress of certain genes through different classes of animal as part of evolution. On top of this, evolution can be observed in primitive organisms alive today: evolution of bacteria for antibiotic resistance as a result of intense pressure. In some cases, entire species of bacteria have become resistant to some antibiotics in just 20 years.





"Of course you can make up fake fossils and sculptures, and computer images of animals that never existed just to try and proove your belief... this is what several Evolutionist have done... and many gulible people, choose to believe in it. All of those humaniod ape-men- are frauds, bits and peices from different species."



None of these comments are specific or backed up by any sources, just a vague rant at evolution and the comments totally disregard all the fossil record. What is splinterjah suggesesting, that evolutionists have gone round the world planting fake fossils? What about dinosaur fossils and the fossils of ancient reptiles, many of these were found before Darwin proposed his theory of evolution?





"Oh and the last " so called ape man" before , "modern man" has absolutly no distiction between modern man at all...



There cannot just be one, "missing link", but there has to be millions linking between animals to give Evolution some ground on factual evidence... too bad there is no such thing as a missing link."



I dont know exactly what "the last so called ape man" refers to specifically as it isnt properly described. But responding to this point, maybe to someone ignorant, fossils of early hominids appear to look exactly the same as modern man but there are a number of important differences such the change of the hip bone to easier allow bipedal momevement of modern Homo Sapiens. Also other modern primates e.g. chimpanzees share 99.9% of our DNA which suggests a common ancestor. And what about the next point, that millions of "missing links" need to be found. The process of fossilization of terrestial animals is an extremely rare process, the body of the animal has to be undistrurbed by predators and scavengers, layers of sediment need to accumulate and massive pressures need to build up around the dead organism. This is why few fossils are found generally compared to the countless number of animals that have ever lived on land. And transitionary forms only exist for a comparatively short period of time as they are between two animals during the time when a particular species is evolving. So the low chance of finding millions of these "missing link" fossils is consistent with other scientific theories.





"Scientific law states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed in form... by natural means...



Wow, that fact sort of contradicts evolution's origin of the universe, does it not...evolution states that everything, laws, light, partricles formed from nothing..."



This is referring to the First Law of Thermodynamics or the Law of Conservation of Energy. I don't know where the "by natural means" comes from. Does natural means include petrol engines, lightbulbs and batteries? But the main problem here is that splinterjah doesnt even understand what evolution is, even through he has spent most of this article criticising it. A general definition of evolution is the process by which groups of organisms change into new organisms better adapted to their particular environment due to the process of natural selection and random genetic mutation. splinterjah is confusing evolution and the big bang theory of the origin of the universe. And the big bang theory doesnt state that everything formed from nothing, it actually states that the the universe rapidly expanded out from a single small point called a singularity, where all the laws of physics and matter were together. So in fact the first law of thermodynamics doesnt contradict evolution nor does it contradict big bang theory of the origin of the universe.





"Problem: particles of the atom-[ neutron, and proton]- have no attraction... so if by some miricle that those particles, from nothing, formed a stable nucleus before drifting off into infinity- and at the same time formed a stable electron orbit, traveling at insane speeds...



guess what that is just one atom.... most everything is made up of countless atoms..."





These comments are hardly written in coherent english, but I've tried to understand what splinterjah is getting at. Again this criticism has nothing to do with evolution, but in response to this criticism of big bang theory of the origin of the universe, protons and neutrons do in fact have attraction. Some of the most fundamental laws of physics state that all particles which have mass have attraction between them. There is a strong attraction between protons and electrons due to the positive charge on the proton and the negative charge on electrons. Also those "insane speeds" of the subatomic particles increases the chance of collisions and nuclei and then atoms forming, rather than decreasing the chance of them forming. This is from the basic laws of motion and kinetic theory. splinterjah also fails to understand that science is not talking about these atoms forming in infinite space. Big bang theory states that atoms were forming from subatomic particles millionths of a second after the initial expansion from the singularity. This happened in a very small space, with incredible amounts of energy present.





"chance of evolution senario: oddless."



What splinterjah doesnt seem to understand, the process of evolution has taken place on a massive time scale: billions of years from the evolution of single celled organisms to Homo sapiens. So however slow the process, there has been sufficient time to account for the diversity of life of the planet today.





"So in conclusion the Theory of Evolution is no more than a suedo-science, a religion, an alternative belief system for those that are too closed minded to believe in God, Not a science. You can't call yourself a scientist, and at the same time claim evolution as fact without factual evidence, only mere oppinion"



So after his rant, splinterjah has now come to his conclusion: Evolution is a pseudo-science. Even though much of the scientific theory surrounding evolution is complicated and needs a basic understanding at least to be able to criticise it rationally, splinterjah has concluded it is rubbish.





"But if you are closedminded from all things, including facts, that are appart from your ideology- then you are un-reasonable.





So your basically arguing the truth as you see it vs. the facts as they are."



Isn't this exactly what you have spent your answer doing, arguing the truth as you see it - God and religion - versus the facts as they are? And aren't you disregarding all facts that are apart from your ideology?





"If you want to believe that logic, laughter, art, self-awareness, language... formed by oddless chance... you go right ahead...if you want to believe that the universe formed from a speck from nothing, which contradicts scientific law, be my guest, that is your own blind faith..."





Evolution doesn't say all this formed by "oddless chance", the theory of evolution says that life adapted to changing environmental conditions to survive more effectively and that evolution is the way that nature has produced the all the variety of organisms today. Not just random chance. Neither does science say the universe formed from nothing. The original answer posted by splinterjah is typical of the attitude of many religious people who disagree with evolution, but don't have even a basic understanding of what the theory of evolution states. It is also typical of the simplistic answers that these same people give which are disagreeing with basic facts. I'm not saying that God isn't ultimately responsible for life on earth, maybe if there is a God, he designed the universe in such a way that the process of evolution would happen on earth to evolve humans. But the way that some relilgious people see this happening i.e. creationism, is at odds with basic logic and facts and is totally incompatible with science.


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