Question:
For athiests: why hate towards just Christians? Clarify please?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
For athiests: why hate towards just Christians? Clarify please?
39 answers:
eelai000
2007-12-07 21:30:48 UTC
jews don't try to force their beliefs into politics.



they don't believe in eating pork, so they don't do it. but they don't try to pass legislation banning pork.





christians don't believe in homosexual relationships, so they make it their calling to keep gays from getting married. it's not your business.





keep your religion in church where ir belongs, like the jews do, and we wouldn't have any animosity toward you.



but your beliefs infringe on the rest of our rights. you take away our civil liberties and expect anything other than hatred?



just being honest.
Pants face
2007-12-07 21:30:05 UTC
Lots of atheists (friends or family members of mine) are very respectful of all different kinds of cultures and religions.



However if someone begins attacking them with a "you're going to hell" then chances are they're going to ignore it or get nasty back.
2007-12-07 21:26:43 UTC
Because christians are the ones making too much noise in the Government.
Бэлзeбот
2007-12-07 21:26:27 UTC
Because we used to be ones, so we know what we're criticizing.
Brent Y
2007-12-07 21:39:38 UTC
Personally, I'm an equal opportunity offender. I recently wrote and had published a letter in our local paper:



First, I've decided to buy a pet rat and name it Mohammed. I'll feed it to my cat, and e-mail the video to the government in Sudan, just to show them what I think of their prophet.



Second, I'd like everyone to imagine I named the rat Jesus instead, and see if their reaction - or their neighbors' - would be a whole lot different than the fanatics in Sudan.



Finally, I'd like everyone to note that the primary difference between our country and the Sudan is that religion, despite continual attempts by zealots here, is still kept somewhat separated from our government. I don't want to live in a country where insulting a prophet, or a god, or any religious figure or icon or whatever, is subject to laws. Freedom requires that the right to offend others is honored. We all should remember that next time we think censorship might not be so bad.

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So as you can see, I don't spare any religion. However, as you noted, in this country it's pretty rare for an Islamic to press for laws requiring special treatment, or encroaching on government, nor do Jews bomb clinics or shoot at doctors in our country. The reality is that what you consider the "basics" of your faith are relatively recent developments, mostly forced on the churches by secular society. Christianity's history is faith by force; secular society has made churches sell instead of demand. Given the power, I have no doubt that the Catholic Church would again engage in Inquisitions or Crusades - and other sects would be equally bloodthirsty.
2007-12-07 21:28:41 UTC
If you were here last week, you saw plenty of Islam bashing on the part of atheists.



Personally, I'm familiar with Christianity, since that's how I was raised, so I can bash it much more effectively than Islam. Jews are not making a nuisance of themselves. Neither do Buddhists, so why bother bashing them?
2007-12-07 21:27:28 UTC
I don't hate Christians, I disapprove of their threats of eternal punishment.
CC
2007-12-07 21:31:48 UTC
When the Jews and the Muslims, or the Buddhists start trying to force their beliefs on me, I will defend myself (not attack).



Fortunately, there are not that many "over zealous" (your terminology) jews, muslims or buddhists on this forum. The only "over zealous" ones are christians here.



I do not hate anyone, not even your "over zealous" brothers and sisters in christ. However, defending my disbelief should not be considered hate, or an attack against these "over zealous" christians.



If you will post your answer that reigns in your "over zealous" brothers and sisters in christ, I will not need to defend my disbeliefs.
2007-12-07 21:30:49 UTC
I don't hate christians. I don't even hate christianity. I hate what it stands for. I used to be a christian. The greatest moment of my life was realizing I had a choice to leave all that crap.
2007-12-07 21:41:32 UTC
I copied this from another person's answer last night to a similiar question. I'll look for the web sites people have referenced as to why christianity gets bashed soo much. Most Atheists are as familiar with this religion as the people who still follow it. If you really want a thorough answer to your question read some books by atheists like Dawkins, Hitchens, or Harris. There are some very valid reasons to bash this religion. There aren't enough jews to really be of as much of a threat as christians and muslims. I usually lump all of the Abrahamic religions into one when I discuss them.



I have a problem with any religion that tries to have laws made (that *I* have to live by) that are based solely on their religious beliefs.

I have a problem with people trying to deny people basic human rights based on their religious beliefs.

I have a problem with a president telling the government of a foreign country that "God" *told* him to invade Iraq.

I have a problem with scientific advancement being held up due to someone else's religious beliefs.

I have a problem with scientific education being disrupted by people who are trying to have their religious dogma included in our children's science classes.

I have a problem with people trying to convince our children that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, despite the fact that they have NO evidence to show that, and in fact, ALL the evidence shows that that is completely untrue.

I have a problem with the fact that our government spends over $100 million ANNUALLY on abstinence-only related education programs for our kids, (based on pressure from the religious) despite the fact that they have been proven a dismal failure, over teaching how to effectively protect themselves from pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases in ways other than as WELL as including abstinence.

I have a problem when people stand outside of a fallen soldiers funeral holding signs that say "Thank God for Dead Soldiers".

I have a problem with anything that causes an entire group of people to fly into a homicidal rage so severe and irrational that it can actually make people call for someone's death simply over what they named a teddy bear. NOTHING ELSE on this PLANET except religion can cause something like that.



What I have a problem with is when someone else's irrational beliefs affect my life. If the religious just kept their beliefs to themselves, then I'd have no problem.
2007-12-08 05:04:39 UTC
I don't hate xians, I'm just not overly keen on what xianity stands for. Which isn't always what YOU think it stands for



This is an often asked question you know a simple search would have sufficed. I also don't get why it's such a big mystery



Most people on the net are from the US or Europe which are both heavily xianised countries

Most atheists are from those countries



The muslims don't fare to well either though.



We're not keen on religions that think they have a right to force us to follow their beliefs



Take chiefred for example - when you read his answer can you understand why there might be an issue with some xians?
marget
2016-05-22 06:58:39 UTC
I don't hate Christians as people. I know a lot of Christians, and they're just trying to get along like the rest of us. What I hate is the efforts by some Christians to turn my free society into a Christian version of Iran, where faith is enforced by law. What I hate is their efforts to have their storybook codified into the law of the land. What I hate is their efforts to have their biblical fantasies taught as science in my publicly-funded schools. What I hate is their contempt for knowledge, and their discounting of almost all science. I do find it comically ironic, however, that they spend their time on here denouncing science while using computers and the Internet, both of which are products of science. What I hate is the rampant hypocrisy of religion. A lot of folks on here say "the Old Testament doesn't matter," but then they turn around and quote Leviticus when they need to hate gays. What I hate is how they foam at the mouth about abortion, but also campaign against comprehensive sex education which would teach people how to avoid unwanted pregnancies. What I hate is their self-appointed title of "pro-life," while doing nothing to improve the lives of the babies and children who are already here. What I hate is their self-indulgent worship of the fetus. But as people? Most Christians are OK, as long as they keep their mythology to themselves. Certain powerful people have been pushing their Christian agenda hard over the last two decades, and now some of us are pushing back. That's not "hate," it's patriotism. We're trying to save our country from religious tyranny.
au_catboy
2007-12-07 21:52:23 UTC
You see, christians have this bizarre persecution complex. Not all christians, but most of the ones complaining like this. They see any question as an attack, and anyone who doubts their preferred myth as hateful servants of the devil (despite the fact that these people don't believe in the devil either). But when they attack anyone who doubts their faith, they don't perceive any moral problem with that. They literally don't see what they're doing. Look around just on YA, open your eyes and see your brethren not only attacking atheists, but Muslims, Pagans, even competing Christian sects!



Frequently, "christians" see attacks that aren't there, due to the aforementioned persecution complex. They also make unprovoked attacks on atheists, and don't notice this due to their lack of introspection. When any non-christian responds to such attacks, the response is perceived as another attack (and the self-proclaimed "christian" forgets his own actions that provoked that response).



We do not call you stupid or ignorant for your beliefs. We call you stupid or ignorant because you ACT stupid or ignorant.



Quite simply, you bring it on yourselves.



Why doesn't this happen with Jews, Muslims, or Buddhists? First of all, there are fewer of those groups in Western societies, and they tend to keep to themselves. There is no indication that Jews or Buddhists have any desire to hijack the US government for their own ends, nor for that matter any Muslims but the more extreme radicals. And even if these groups had such desires, they don't have the numbers to put their plans into action. The pseudo-christian right, however, has been trying for decades to codify their beliefs into law, sometimes with frightening success. Yet the same people who enjoy so many opportunities to abuse government power whine that they are being persecuted because their power is not absolute.



You believe that atheists hate christians, because you project your own hatred of the "other" onto them. Often, they are merely defending themselves from attacks by you and your brethren. Other times, they point out that you are acting like whiny children, ignoring obvious facts, or exhibiting other undesirable traits that you don't like to have pointed out. You do not perceive such hatred directed towards other religions because those other religions do not spend nearly as much time attacking atheists.



If you want respect, try showing a little respect. Coming right out of the gate accusing people you don't know of hating you without the slightest shred of evidence isn't very respectful. There's that lack of introspection again.



(above, I often use "you" in the collective sense. Maybe Ya'll should become more acceptable grammar, English needs a plural you to avoid confusion like this)



chief, it simply is NOT a fact that the USA was founded on christian principles. I'm sure you'll maintain that delusion until the day you die, no matter how much evidence contradicts it, but it just isn't true. Read the first damn thing about the founding fathers' religious beliefs. Many were deists, if not outright atheists. Read about Thomas Jefferson's denouncing of priests, and Thomas Paine's scathing dissection of the bible. Read the Treaty of Tripoli, which explicitly states that the US was NOT founded on the christian religion. The myth of a "christian nation" is just that, a myth. It's not true. How do you found a nation on christian principles without mentioning christianity EVEN ONCE in ANY of the founding documents? I've never seen any of your ilk even TRY to answer that.
eris
2007-12-07 21:36:44 UTC
Hate is an awfully strong word. Personally, I don't "hate" anyone. If you would care to observe Y!A for awhile, you'd notice that many Christians "attack" atheist beliefs as much as, if not more than, atheists "hate on" Christians. I have seen people dissing Islam (and Muslims dissing back), don't think I've ever seen a Buddhist "hate on" anyone.



Christians tend to be the loudest, most outspoken, most holier-than-thou and hypocritical of the bunch; their arrogant and self-righteous behavior toward others is what draws the "attacks." Like someone else said, if they word their questions a certain way, people are going to "attack." A lot of Christians, though, seem incapable of asking a question without "reminding" us that we're damned in their eyes.



It's not the belief in God that gets "attacked" - it's the behavior of the people doing the believing.
allure45connie
2007-12-07 21:41:40 UTC
First of all ,I attack the beliefs and the religious institutions . I do not attack the Christians unless they attack me .

Second of all I do very much attack the just as idiotic beliefs of the Muslims who are just as hateful and vile as the Christians used to be during the Inquisitions . I ( and maybe others here ) tend not to attack the Jewish beliefs because they believe in the same OT as the Christians so it would be redundant . And because Jews do not generally try to convert "non-believers" and force their religion on society . I tend not to attack Hinduism because not too many Hindus post here , and it is generally a peaceful religion which does not force itself upon others . Also it is a very "silly" type of religion to those of us in the West . Buhdism really isn't so much a religion as a process . Scientology is idiotic , so much that they don't dare post here . And for all the other religions (like the brainwashed Moonies) I would be glad to "Attack Them in Debate" but once again they don't post here .

I don't hate people because of their religion . Most of my family is Christian . I do hate people who use a religious belief to carry out vile acts such as the murder of innocents on "9-11" .



EDIT for chiefred ( below ) How F'n ignorant !
2007-12-07 21:42:15 UTC
Christianity is what we are familiar with.

Many Atheists once were Christians.



Some atheists have something personal against Christianity or religion.



Christianity has given an unfair bad rap to atheists.

Once I told a Christian friend that I'm an atheists, and she got really uncomfortable. I asked if there was a problem, and she responded, "I'm sorry, but we learned about atheism in church last month, and I just can't be friends with someone who worships the devil."



On top of that, Christianity is a political juggernaut that continuously tries to fuse the gap between church and state.



Why is "Under God" in the pledge of allegiance...because of Christians trying to ignore the 1st amendment.



Some atheists don't hate Christians, but they realize that Christians are political enemies trying to debase part of the foundation of the constitution.



Christians beliefs have put stem cell research on hold (thanks to Bush).



Christian beliefs have made most sex ed. classes in the country be based around abstinence, instead of protection. They are not medically accurate.



So then, we single out Christians because they violate our political rights and opinions (which are based on scientific standpoint...the most accurate predictor of truth).
2007-12-07 22:23:21 UTC
The other religions you mention are not going around making the false claim that the United States was founded on their belief system, nor are they attempting to have their beliefs taught in public schools, or institutionalized in our secular government. If you christians grow weary of atheists attacking you, stop doing those things which provoke attack.
DogmaBites
2007-12-07 21:40:20 UTC
I don't think I hate Christians, but since I live in the US, Christianity is the religion I have to deal with. It's Christians who are abusing the power of the government to promote their view.



I don't get on about other religions because they don't have government power. Fox News doesn't go out of their way to report on the "War on Hannuka"



If they kept their religion out of the government I wouldn't care much at all about their views, even the over zealous ones. If I don't like a church, I just drive on by. If the government is coercing my child to say "one nation under god", I can't ignore that.



One last thing, please be careful about drawing too much of a conclusion from the argument on YA. People use this as a discussion forum. People inherently come here to argue religion.
2007-12-07 22:29:00 UTC
i often wonder that too. I have heard athiests make fun of Muslims, and i have heard them make fun of a few other religions, never Buddhists or Jewish people though. Maybe they do, but i've never heard them. But i know a lot of them pick on Christians. AND even though i am not entirely in favour of Mormom OR Jehovah's Witness doctrines, THEY get picked on as much as we do!



I do not think it is ALL athiests either; i have known a few that would tease me about being a Christian (but in good fun; not to be mean to me) and they also knew that i was respectful of their choice about no religion, and wasn't like, forcing it down their throats. But some athiests are very mean. Maybe it's because they have met some Christians that weren't very nice or that were bad examples so they think we're all like that? OR maybe they used to believe in God, or prayed; and the church let them down, or they feel that God has, so they hate everyone who still believes in him?



In any case, i think that, like you said, it's not all Christians that are terrible people; but some; And they make the rest of us look bad. And it's not all Athiests that are terrible people; just some of them. But i really wish the ones that are terrible would let up on us; I'm getting tired of being called a nutjob because i believe in God and i pray. I doubt very much if they would like it if it were done to them. *sighs*





*edit* you know, i hear everyone complaining about how christians try to get involved in politics and legislation. Why can't we? Athiests do! And moreover, this nation was founded on Christian principles AS WELL AS the right to religious freedom. That means EVERYBODY of any religion, not everybody BUT Christians! I get so sick of that!

If an Athiest can run for Mayor, so can a Christian. If an Athiest can sit on the Supreme Court, SO can a Christian.

IF an Athiest can desire to influenence legislation, SO can a Christian. And stop abusing the "Separation of Church and State" thing to mean "Separation of Christianity Only and State" If you're going to push out religion, please, make it ALL religions, not just biased and ONLY christianity! *sighs*



One Nation Under God is just the way it Goes. OR do Athiests refuse to spend money because Gods name is on it? Duh!!!
Trina™
2007-12-07 21:34:47 UTC
I don't feel that I attack. I may questions. Some Christians take questioning as attack when they feel powerless to support their beliefs. And I personally have never told anyone they were going to go to hell for not believing as I do. Now, although I don't believe in hell, I am not insulted. But, because I know what that means to them, I know that it is meant that way.



I have never ever been pressured by any other religion to change my belief or lack thereof. I have never been persecuted by any other religion for not believing as they did.
Bellini
2007-12-07 21:32:28 UTC
Atheist do not hate christians or jew or muslims etc... Stupid people hate others for not sharing the same belief system regardless of whether the individuals believe in god or not. I seen muslims insult others faith, christians insulting atheist and muslims, i have heard jews say the only language worth speaking is hebrew, etc... Stupid people say stupid things regardless on what they believe.
Paul
2007-12-07 21:35:52 UTC
First off, whenever you attack a minority you are anti,race,dis something. When you attack the majority you are just simply attacking. I have three things to say about Xtians, 1. Your Faith is your own, keep it that way, my problem with you is banning movies, constantly posting in nonxtian religions (Jewish, Buddhism and Hindu) and stating that only Xtian God is the true god. 2. assuming that your religion is the only religion that is true and pure, no just stop, it is annoying, and will only further my hatred of them, from posting bible passages as facts to dismissing actual thought because one bible passage says so. 3. Beliving that you are better than us because you have Jesus, by stating you are going to hell, or my personal favorite I Tolerate you, that pisses me off the most, when you actually say "The bible tells me to tolerate you" I want to jump out of my computer and punch you in the face, that is so offensive and not only that but makes you look like you are better than me by saying it.
ibushido
2007-12-07 21:31:38 UTC
Attack, hate...those are strong words, ridicule would be more accurate. I merely call you silly cult member for believing in fairy tales. It doesn't matter which cult, christian, jew, muslim...they are all very much the same. The fact is that we live in America, where the christian cult is the majority, so they are going to get the majority of ridicule. Also, most atheists have been told by christian cultists how they're going to hell for lacking a belief in the bible fairy tales. So, naturally, that's where more of the ridicule will be directed.
2007-12-07 21:35:15 UTC
Jews and Buddhists don't proselytize, and Buddhism is a atheistic religion. I say even worse things about Islam. I don't hate most Christians just a few. I don't attack Christianity I point out the lack of evidence of your so called truth.
asimenia
2007-12-07 21:35:08 UTC
What I don't understand is why Christians believe their way is the right way dismissing all other religions - Why is your God the one and Not the Muslim or Buddist way (for example) ... Choose your God but don't ram your beliefs down other people's throats - Be more open minded - and don't damn everyone who doesn't follow your chosen way to eternal hell!

Christians have enough hatred towards other religions causing more fear/hatred around the world than atheists!
2007-12-07 21:52:06 UTC
I don't hate Christians or Christianity.



I don't care what religion you practice, provided you keep it out of the political, legal, educational and medical systems.



Do Pagans do that? Yes they do. Do Buddhists do that? Yep again. Do Christians do that? You bet your a** they don't, and that's why they are open to criticism.
halloweenie
2007-12-07 21:31:34 UTC
i don't hate anyone for their religious beliefs. also, if you ask a stupid question (have you read some of these questions?) you usually get a lot of people calling you stupid. the r&s section is mostly christians, so that's why they get it more. finally, i have no experience being any of the other religions, but i was a christian for many years, so i can answer questions about it. i don't often answer questions i don't know anything about.
RAJESH
2007-12-07 21:33:14 UTC
Most of the ones you see have become atheists because they were Christians and their religion did not explain anything, just gave them "It's written in Bible so better believe it".
chiefredwater
2007-12-07 22:02:47 UTC
.......Just in response to the ones against Christianity because of it's entertwinings in our politics, etc.....

The U.S.A. was founded on Christian Principles. That's the plain ole fact. I say, If you do not like it go start your own country or you can always move to another country.......
bad tim
2007-12-07 21:34:59 UTC
nobody but christians make a habit of coercing others into accepting their beliefs. muslims do it, too, but they don't go door to door and they don't come on here to condemn everybody to hell in questions that have nothing to do with them. it's the fundies that are the problem. i have no problem with respectful christians, and i suspect nearly everyone would say the same thing.



i also have to say that i don't see hate coming out of atheists. i see a sense of humor and counter arguments, but if you're talking about mean-spirited attitude, it's a fundie 99% of the time.



francine [and several more like her] is on your team, honey. i think that's your burden to bear more than it is ours.



it's unfortunate that kind christians have to be collateral damage, but that's what it is. fundies [both christian and muslim] are trying to force their beliefs on everyone else. if you can't deal with them, we have to.
2007-12-07 21:34:36 UTC
Atheists always seem to think they're right; that THEIR unbelief in God is the truth. Because they claim that God doesn't exist, that automatically makes them right, simply because they don't believe in God's existence - how sad! I think, too, that the reason why atheists bash Christianity is because they get a 'charge' out of it - a 'rush'. It makes them feel good to attack and/or bash Christians - makes them feel that they have such great intelligence and wisdom, like they have all the answers and know all there is to know about Christianity.



What atheists don't understand - and may never understand at all - is that, according to OUR faith and God-given command, we are to spread God's word, but only to those willing to listen. If the person doesn't wish to hear it, then we just end it and walk away - simple as that! Why atheists make such a big fuss over Christianity, it's beyond me! I WILL NOT give in to atheists and make them happy by ceasing to witness to others about God's word. That's all we're doing. They simply believe that, because we mention bible verses/scripture, that we're right away forcing it down everyone's throat - how WRONG they are! Many atheists just can't seem to have the same respect for Christianity as they do for Jews, Muslims, etc., though I only respect Christianity because it's the only religion that adheres to God's holy word! Anyone that has turned 'atheist', claiming to have been a Christian before then, was never a Christian to begin with because a TRUE born again Christian would never abandon God and their faith in Him. :D
2007-12-07 21:33:21 UTC
No hate for Christians whatsoever. Most of my relatives and friends are Christians and I love them dearly. "Some" Christians however, want to push their religion into our government, schools and onto our front porches. I don't like that.
chibisqueak
2007-12-07 21:40:08 UTC
Personally, I think all the you're-stupid-because-you-believe-blah behavior is foolish. You have your path, I have mine. Does it really matter beyond that?



I really don't think so.
2007-12-07 21:33:45 UTC
I am an equal opprotunity troll, I troll everyone.
2007-12-07 21:29:24 UTC
Just to be fair I have hate for all of you but there is the most to fear from Christians. Look at the Xian president. God telling him to go to war. Faith based initiatives eroding the constitution.
What? Me Worry?
2007-12-07 21:30:33 UTC
I vociferously disagree; I do not hate.
Champion of Knowledge
2007-12-07 21:32:35 UTC
Don't confuse pity with hate.
2007-12-07 21:28:24 UTC
If you would like to categorize spread of the truth as an "attack", then that's fine.



I firmly believe that the truth must come out no matter what, and if that means hurting feelings - so be it.
2007-12-07 21:28:57 UTC
Everyone hates on everyone, where you been?


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