Question:
who will like to know about a scientific fact "the expanding universe",which revealed in QURAAN1400 years ago?
?
2009-09-17 23:39:10 UTC
THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE
In 1925, an American astronomer by the name of Edwin Hubble, provided
observational evidence that all galaxies are receding from one another, which
implies that the universe is expanding. The expansion of the universe is now
an established scientific fact. This is what Al-Qur’aan says regarding the
nature of the universe: “With the power and skill Did We construct The
Firmament: For it is We Who create The vastness of Space.” [Al-Qur’aan
51:47]
The Arabic word mûsi‘ûn is correctly translated as ‘expanding it’, and it
refers to the creation of the expanding vastness of the universe. Stephen
Hawking, in his book, ‘A Brief History of Time’, says, “The discovery that
the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the
20th century.”
The Qur’aan mentioned the expansion of the universe, before man even learnt
to build a telescope! Some may say that the presence of astronomical facts in
the Qur’aan is not surprising since the Arabs were advanced in the field of
astronomy. They are correct in acknowledging the advancement of the Arabs
in the field of astronomy. However they fail to realize that the Qur’aan was
revealed centuries before the Arabs excelled in astronomy. Moreover many of
the scientific facts mentioned above regarding astronomy, such as the origin
of the universe with a Big Bang, were not known to the Arabs even at the
peak of their scientific advancement. The scientific facts mentioned in the
Qur’aan are therefore not due to the Arabs’ advancement in astronomy.
Indeed, the reverse is true. The Arabs advanced in astronomy, because
astronomy occupies a place in the Qur’aan.quraan
Eighteen answers:
She said
2009-09-17 23:46:49 UTC
I do Masha Allah...



http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_98.html
Pedestal 42
2009-09-18 00:12:07 UTC
What is revealed, again and again, is the ability of believers to "read in" what they wish to find in holy texts,

coupled with the ability to smooth out or simply ignore anything significant they do not wish to see or consider.



The "science in the Qur'aan" strand is just a particular example.



Just suppose it turns out that the Big Bang theory and an expanding universe is wrong*...

Will you then accept the Qur'aan was wrong and re-assess it accordingly, or just find some way to see it is "right" in the light of the new information?

If the latter, that completely undermines any support from claims of "matching science" made *after the scientific announcements*. Let the Qur'aan make some scientific *predictions* and then have them proved true. That would be better support.





*I'm not saying it will, or that it's at all likely but it's not yet utterly unthinkable: << “The trouble is that with this finding and others in the past three years, the universe is beginning to look like a complex witch's brew of dark energy, normal matter and dark matter (an invisible exotic form of matter). “



"This starts to look incredibly ugly and complicated," says Mario Livio of the Space Telescope Science Institute. "I even wonder if we are we asking right questions.">>
Qwyrx
2009-09-17 23:48:24 UTC
Okay, I'll believe that said passage refers to the expanding universe. So what? Other religious texts can be interpreted to mean other scientific facts (for example, the Biblical creation story can be interpreted to be similar to the Big Bang Theory of universe creation). When people of my religion (Christians) try to use science to prove the Bible, it always looks simplistic or hollow. It feels just about as useful in your example here. I accept your book as holy as and your path to G*d. The Lord works in mysterious ways, after all.
Johnny Y
2009-09-17 23:51:34 UTC
Great. And this "scientific fact" of yours becomes valid only after science identifies what it is.



If you want to use something so scientifically useless as a religious text for science, why don't you try doing something science has already done using your book? Like, build the computer you're so mindlessly typing on?



Ambiguity is not scientific.
2009-09-17 23:50:18 UTC
The bible also indicates that the Universe must be endless, continuously expanding:

(Ecclesiastes 3:11) Everything he has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite he has put in their heart, that mankind may never find out the work that the [true] God has made from the start to the finish.



FYI: Ecclesiastes was written 3000 years ago
Insight
2009-09-18 00:03:42 UTC
Your explanation is very atheist. They will love you for that.



Do you know who God Is?



He created all things.



Revelation 4:11- The Word of the Lord - The Holy Bible

11"You are worthy, our Lord and God,

to receive glory and honor and power,

for you created all things,

and by your will they were created

and have their being
Watev
2009-09-17 23:53:01 UTC
"The Arabic word mûsi‘ûn is correctly translated as ‘expanding it’, and it

refers to the creation of the expanding vastness of the universe."



Funny, seeing as how you didn't provide a quote that used either the Arabic word or the English translation of it.
?
2009-09-18 07:58:03 UTC
Many confuse telling the truth with hate. Koran claims r either 2 vague (could mean somethings/nothing), cant b proved or r wrong.



1. Many scientific finds r true but it doesnt mean "all" claims r true (many dont take time & energy 2 carefully think thru things b4 coming out 4 or against it). Many dont properly take in2 account all it takes 2 create a universe/life (they tend 2 focus on things "seeming" 2 support what they want 2 &/or u 2 believe).



2. Theres no way 2 prove the BB is the cause of the universe. Whether the universe is expanding or not we cant prove the driving force of the propulsion is due 2 force(s) from outside of the universe, the BB or other forces or if acceleration of objects is due 2 the universe collapsing (we cant get outside of it [so it cant b a fact] - why we cant prove the quantum mech claim that particles appear out of nowhere - u'd hv 2 erase the universe & u 2 conduct a "clean" experiment). We also cant get 2 far parts of the universe 2 check red shift calculations.



Sadly, muslims/others r mislead as they try 2 live by God's Law - punishment = death. No1 can live w/o breaking God's eternal Law = sin (why we need Jesus who died 4 our sins). Only 1 God can occupy infinity & that God is the God of Israel so theres no Allah/other gods. Its only fully provable b/c Jesus Christ is the 1 & only true Son of God & He wasnt speaking out of 2 let alone 1000s of the sides of His mouth (no confusion - God's fixed order of things Biblical). The qoran is twisted lies & things stolen from the Bible 4 the devil 2 use 2 fool ppl who dont know the real Jesus.



Neither a label, title, name, its history, no. of members/converts, amount of time it existed nor claims made about them (like persecution) means anything (u can call anything anything). Its whats practiced that makes them either the whole truth or a lie. A dictionary definition doesnt necessarily encompass God's full definition or usage of a word (or His exceptions thereof). I.e. neither Jesus nor the Biblical prophets were ever muslims no matter what islam's usage 4 the word muslim is (calling a dog god doesnt make it God).



The real Jesus Christ is the only true way 2 salvation (Acts 4:12 - on an individual level) not Islam (God never sent Muhammud - no NEW prophets after Jesus, who cancels out the need 4 "new-teaching" prophets). Islam has nothing 2 do with knowing God. Its a man-made religion (only obvious 2 those who know the real Jesus Christ). Wrong teaching comes from false prophets, canceling what they claim. When u dont know the real Jesus, accepting His death/resurrection & true position/Biblical teachings, the result is false teachings that kills u & ur offspring - theres many ways that seem right 2 men but its end = death (u cant worship in truth & in error - error cancels all u teach).



The crux of the problem is many men (having limited knowledge) try 2 know who God is by imposing human limitations 4 understand things 2 God's abilities. Muslims make the mistake of believing the Bible has many errors/rewritten, that the koram is "the" perfect holy book). The Bible is only full of errors if u dont accept Jesus as God's real Son & if ur determined 2 dismiss God's Biblical truth. God will give u what ur looking 4 in ur heart. Many r determined 2 dismiss God & will b given over 2 their hateful hardened heart. Muslims say the Qu'ran is perfect but it has blatant fatal errors -



Problem is theres many religions/varieties/offshoots. 1 day I realized they cant all b right (ie. theres 1 Bible, why so many interpretations? - II Pet 1:**19-21). Most religions came thru ppl who thought up things 4 a God they & others liked. Some realized religion could b good 2 control the masses & 4 other agendas. Religion wont teach u much about God (they cant teach what they dont know). Who knows more about a house the Builder or he who moves in later?



Religions made many fatal mistakes. However, do u think God is all knowing & there4, would fully understand His purpose, including 4 Jesus Christ? Many miss this - Jesus is the only 1 in history who said He's "the" way, "the" truth & "the" life (the only true way of life) & NO 1 can know God except thru Jesus (Jn 14:6 - ref Acts 4:12; Jn 5:39; 10:1,7). This means "the" whole truth was complete & there4 finished thru what Jesus taught & did or God doesn't know what He's doing & cant b God. The truth is either fully true or its a lie. The full truth cant contain a lie & is the absence of any lie.



Either Jesus is the only full truth or theres no actual truth & there4 no God (God would hv 2 know what Jesus was going 2 do). This means Jesus is whom He says He is or He's just another false prophet among many, whom should b disregarded. If He's the actual truth then theres no need 4 any NEW teaching. This means any so-called new teaching & any other religious beliefs &/or from self-proclaimed prophets or teachers r invalid & cant lead u 2 our real God.



***If Jesus came from God as His only Son as stated in the Bible then the Quran (doesnt agree with the Bible), the Book of Mormon (no such thing as "another testament"), JWs (rewrote some Bible verses - New World Translation) & other religions r wrong about Jesus b/c they demote Jesus 2 just a prophet/good man (1 way or another). If Jesus Christ isnt God's Son (false prophet) then the Bible & all others r wrong. We cant hv it 2 ways. Theres only 1 Jesus & there can only b 1 true Gospel (II Cor 11:4; Gal 1:6,9; I Tm 6:3). If Jesus is whom He says He is then Muhammad (muslim follower of Islam), Joseph Smith (Mormon = Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints), Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs = Watchtower, Awake), most Catholics, many Protestants, Ellen White (7th Day Adventists), Mary Baker (Christian Scientists), the moonies (Unification church - Rev Moon), Church of Scientology (Dyanetics - L Ron Hubbard), Buddhism, Hinduism & others presenting other teachings & practices r the false prophets/teachers & should b disregarded. But I can assure u the truth is in the Bible (where Jesus was coming from in everything He did & said).



[Many (see above par.) claim they believe Jesus is the Son of God (however, even the devil knows Jesus exists) but having read the entire Bible (some parts many times) I state with authority that many dont know God or Jesus. If ur foundation of teaching is wrong it cancels out all ur other claims = house built upon sand. Claiming Jesus is the Messiah doesnt mean u know the real Jesus Christ]



Jesus couldnt have done nor said all thats written in the NT unless He fully knew the entire OT (NT didnt exist while Jesus was on earth). Jesus couldnt have known the entire OT unless God sent Him. & the Apostles couldnt write the NT unless Jesus allowed them 2 know & remember why He was here (Lk 24:25-27,45). Only God could cause it.



God doesnt compromise the truth - if u do u cancel out ur being a follower of the real truth & in turn that cancels ur place in Heaven.



voyc4rmwldrns
2009-09-18 00:17:54 UTC
The Bible books of Job and Psalms were written over 3,400 years ago and tell us that the earth was round (what Columbus takes credit for in 1490's) *only 3,000 years late.
qxzqxzqxz
2009-09-17 23:44:16 UTC
If that is the case why isn't the Qur’aan helping the Arabs become world leaders in science today?



How many Islamic clerics have won the Nobel Prize for any scientific achievement?
vorenhutz
2009-09-18 00:07:50 UTC
do you know that this sort of attitude to science is why islamic civilisation hasn't discovered much of anything in the last 400 years?
Captain Sarcastic
2009-09-17 23:46:24 UTC
Funny - a couple nights ago somebody posted a similar wall of text claiming that Hinduism was "scientifically proven."



It was just as false and self-serving as the disingenuous folly you just posted, but it was even longer. I'm not sure whether that makes it better or worse...
?
2009-09-17 23:47:33 UTC
I know, I know, I know!



Other Muslims trying to justify their belief in a made a religion like you are!
2009-09-17 23:47:02 UTC
U dont know Buddhism.



Buddhism says that after expansion , there will be contraction and collapse



Then again expansion then contraction



So it will continue forever



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After expansion all the matter will go to black holes

The black holes will start attracting each other

then contraction will occur

When all matter converges to a single point

again big bang

expansion

and

so on
discord71
2009-09-17 23:42:58 UTC
Astronomy was around LONG before Islam was...
Juan Jalt
2009-09-17 23:45:16 UTC
Didn't you ask this same question last night, and the night before that, and the night before that, etc.
Snowflake
2009-09-17 23:46:15 UTC
your just as bad as the christians
?
2009-09-17 23:54:03 UTC
No thanks.


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