Question:
if you are a Muslim read this and give your honest opinion?
2011-09-14 21:49:03 UTC
Please, if there are Muslims out there that condemn the idea of sharia law and violations of freedom of speech, and religion, as well as women's rights, and whom do not interpret the Koran's scripture as a call for violence, please speak up, because I have come to resent Islam, and may wrongfully form the generalized assumption that while only a hand full of Muslims are extremists, that Muslims in general all share this obscenely bigoted and fundamental view and please if you are not like this do not be offended, I openly admit I may be missing the big picture. As having once been a christian, I know that many Christians are blissfully unaware, or ignore or condemn certain aspects of the bible, and I would like to think there are Muslims out there like this as well. As an Atheist I am in most religions condemned to burn, but that's fine, because if any of you out there are civil human beings who genuinely believe that a person can willingly choose salvation rather than be murdered in a stone aged fashion for being a non-believer, and being non-sharia-compliant, I'm willing to accept that. I believe women are our equals, I also believe that a woman, if so inclined, has the right to submit them self to a man if they feel that is their true role in Muslim society, just as a catholic women can willingly become a nun, and also choose to be nun no longer if need be. I do not believe women should be forced to consent to Islam. Please just tell me that there are Muslims out there who are not what the media has prescribed to us, after all since the attack in Norway it has become at least slightly more apparent to the world that terrorism is not an act committed exclusively by Muslims.
Seven answers:
Jafar
2011-09-17 05:16:42 UTC
In your question you are assuming things about Muslims and Islam that is quite offensive to us. Islam is not what you think it is, nor do Muslims think of it that way. If you have specific reasons why you think this way, we can address those. But you asked a general question, so it is not possible for me to see what your problem is.



“if there are Muslims out there that condemn the idea of sharia law”

Sharia law defines for Muslims how they practice their religion. For example, praying 5 times a day is part of Sharia law. So how can Muslims condemn Sharia law? Rather, you misunderstand what is meant by Sharia law, so you want Muslims to condemn it. But we will not condemn any part of our religion just because you misunderstand what it means.



Yes, Sharia law includes legal aspects, such as family law and criminal law, but these are for Muslims only, and only in a Muslim-majority country where the majority agrees to have Sharia law.



So, if you want us to condemn it, can you tell us why we should? Just saying “condemn Sharia law” is not enough to make us condemn it. Tell us why you want it to be condemned.



“and violations of freedom of speech”

What do you mean by violations of freedom of speech? As far as I know, we do not violate freedom of speech. The way you are asking the question, you are blaming us for it, so you want us to condemn it. If you want us to condemn freedom of speech in general, sure, no problem. If there is a specific issue you have with Muslim actions, let us know which action you think should be condemned.



“and religion”

Islam does not violate freedom of religion. Who do you want us to condemn?



“as well as women's rights”

Although Islam does not violate women’s rights, there are many Muslims in the backward countries that do, and we do condemn them completely.



“and whom do not interpret the Koran's scripture as a call for violence”

Why should we interpret the Qur’an as a call for violence?



“if you are not like this do not be offended, I openly admit I may be missing the big picture”

Thank you very much for saying that. It makes me feel better about you.



“murdered in a stone aged fashion for being a non-believer, and being non-sharia-compliant”

Where in Islam did you get this?



“I believe women are our equals”

In Islam, women are not equal to men – women are of higher status than men. For example, men are required to sacrifice their lives and wealth for women, but women don’t have to give their wealth to men, even if they are richer than men.

https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20110821084110AAWMIM3



“I do not believe women should be forced to consent to Islam.”

Which woman is being forced to consent to Islam? Women are accepting Islam of their own free will in the West. Who is forcing them?



“after all since the attack in Norway it has become at least slightly more apparent to the world that terrorism is not an act committed exclusively by Muslims.”

Thank you.
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2011-09-14 22:09:18 UTC
Islam has been hi-jacked by extremists like the Sufi and Wahhabi's. They believe and embrace a literal interpretation which requires jihad from them.



The others are fearful and/or apathetic, and these same extremists would deal to them the same fate as that they dub to infidels (non believers) - conversion or death.



Study the history of Islam and its founder, it is a religion founded upon violence. It contradicts Judaism and Christianity which both state that God does not change.



So why then would God need to send a third revelation of his will by Gabriel to a single man in a remote cave near Medina?



Islam treats woman as property and second class citizens. Islam gives women no greater purpose than to submit to their men for their pleasure.



Based on a non fiction work written in secret by a Saudi princess these same pious men sneak away on trips to SE Asia and other locations to engage in activities that are strictly forbidden by the Koran (ie sex with prostitutes).



Islam is all about perception, they want to be perceived one way but act another, not to much difference from other religions really, only an honest Jew or Christian will admit that we are hypocrites while the Muslim haters of the West will only condemn our life styles while breaking their own religious codes.



There is a wealth of information you only need to seek it out.
2011-09-15 15:07:03 UTC
Wise words indeed, my Atheist friend. I grew up in a poor area, much favoured by newly arrived muslim refugees for it's central location and cheap prices. Therefore, I know a lot of muslims, and none of them supports sharia, only one wears a hijab, almost none follow all the guidelines laid forth in the Quran, and for some of them, religious fanatics are the reason they had to flee in the first place, for example to avoid persecution for supporting the Government of Iran before the revolution. I find them to be very much like everybody else.
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WiseCrack
2011-09-14 21:57:44 UTC
There are atheist among muslims too.
2011-09-14 21:51:56 UTC
Media...hat a cruel thing...
Truth Stands out
2011-09-17 08:11:46 UTC
No1 should want 2 b muslim-B4 I get involved I research both things about/against it-so I'd not jump in2 things I'd regret later. Islam's a scam>core issues: All men can hate under any title but Quran verses allow violent ppl more excuses 2 kill ppl seen as opposing/insulting its beliefs-Islam claims 2 b only religion-why Izscam prohibits change of belief. Many CONFUSE TRUTH (offends many)/HATE. Koran science claims r already in the Bible/seen w/o koram/2 vague/science cant prove claim. Fatal errors:



Koran denies Jesus is God's Son/died on a cross (only perfect sacrifice 4 our sins=Only Jesus can 4give sins)/rose from the dead (some muslims call Him Messiah but deny His Deity). Israel's God is real/allah isnt--Sons of God r thru Isaac not Ishmael. Allah is generic word 4 God mostly used by Izscam--Satan uses word submission 2 fool ppl who dont know real Jesus (why ppl r confused-PBUH may seem 2 add respect/Izscam claims Bible proves islam but the Bible's corrupt is all nonsense. Muslims/others try 2 live by God's Law, punishment=death. No1 can live w/o breaking God's eternal Law=sin (why we need real Jesus who died 4 our sins).



Only 1 God can occupy infinity-God of Israel (so no other legit gods exist)-only fully proved b/c Jesus is God's Son/wasnt speaking out 2 nor 1000s of sides of His mouth=no confusion-Qorap distorts Bible truth.



Labels/titles/names, history/# of members/converts, amount of time it existed nor claims made about them (ie persecution) means anything-u can call anything anything. Whats practiced makes it whole truth or a lie-dict def doesnt always cover God's full def/word usage/exceptions. Jesus/Bible prophets werent muslims as islam claims (calling a dog god doesnt make it God).



Muslims r told the Bible has many errors/rewritten, that the korap is "the" perfect holy book. Bible has errors only if u dont accept Jesus as God's real Son/u dismiss God's Biblical truth. God'll give u whats in ur heart-dismiss Jesus, He'll harden ur hateful heart.



Jesus is the only way 2 salvation (Acts 4:12, on an personal level) not Islam (God didnt send Muharmud-no NEW prophets after Jesus who cancels need 4 new-teaching prophets). Izscam cant lead u 2 God (only clear 2 1 who knows real Jesus). False teaching/prophets cancel all they claim. When u dont know Jesus, accepting His death/resurrection & true position/Biblical teachings, result is false teachings=kills u/offspring. Many ways seem right but its end=death (cant worship in truth & in error).



Most religions r built on gods man likes/seen as good 2 control masses/agendas (fatal mistakes)-cant all b right (only 1 Bible-why so many interprs? II Pet 1:19-21). Religion doesnt=the truth/cant teach much about God (cant teach what u dont know). Who knows more about a house the Builder or ppl moving in later?



In history only Jesus said He's the way/truth/life & u cant know God w/o Him (Jn 14:6/Acts 4:12/Jn 5:39/10:1,7)-whole truth was complete in Jesus or God doesn't know what He's doing=cant b God. U hv full truth (sets u free) or its all lies=theres no real truth. If Jesus is whom He says He is all NEW teaching/other beliefs/from self-proclaimed prophets/teachers r false/godless or He's 1 more false teacher 2 ignore.



*If Jesus is God's Son then Quran (contradicts Bible); LDS/BoM/mormon (no "another testament"); JWs (twisted NWT/Watchtower/Awake)/Catholics/many Protestants (kept Cc wrong format)/SDA/moonies, Christian Scientists, Scientology/Buddhists/Hindus, others r wrong on Jesus-demotes Jesus 2 prophet/good man-1 way/another. If He isnt God's Son (false prophet) then Bible/all named above r wrong (false prophets)-cant hv it 2 ways-only 1 Jesus=1 true Gospel (2 Cor 11:4).



Many believe in but dont know Jesus-even Satan knows Him. Wrong teaching foundation cancels all ur claims=house built on sand-when sand gives way whole house falls (with what u added/patched/fixed 2 appear better=useless 2 try 2 patch a tire full of holes).



Jesus couldnt hv done whats in NT w/o fully knowing whole OT (impossible w/o God/NT didnt exist yet/Apostles couldnt write NT w/o Jesus having them remember all He did-Lk 24:25-27,45).



Reading the Bible (religious/not) u cant find Jesus w/o His Bible directions (Jn 5:39/10:1,7/3:3,5). God outsmarted us-only the Bible cant b properly known w/o Jesus (Jn 14:6/II Cor 3:14/Is 29:11-12-If Jewish ppl cant unveil OT w/o Jesus all gentiles cant=why many interps exist/called fairy tales). Jesus came bearing the 2-edged (OT/NT) sword of division. U can lead a horse 2 water but u cant make it drink.



Jesus' resurrection defeated evil=sin or no1'd b saved. Jesus ate food 2 reassure disciples theres a connection btwn a Spirit/physical life. If Jesus didnt resurrect/fulfill OT Law all r wasting their time-no human can live w/o breaking God's OT Law=death then eternal Hell.



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