Question:
Does the Slogan : "We'll win because we're on God's Side!" still hold true today?
DinDjinn
2009-11-11 13:08:58 UTC
It has been America's motto at war times in our history. So why have we been having such a rough time, in Southeast Asia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places, these days? Has God changed sides?
Or have we?
Seventeen answers:
Morey000
2009-11-11 13:13:50 UTC
it hold's true in this sense only:



that god is something that:

The common man knows is true,

the wise man knows is false,

and the politician (or in this case military leader) knows is useful.
Mandaladreamer
2009-11-11 21:21:27 UTC
You need to see this as a bigger picture. There isn't any religious group that has gone to war and not thought that God was on their side.

Draw your own conclusions. There isn't any such thing as a "holy war" if you believe that there is only one god.

Those who "win" wars are probably winning for other reasons, same as those who "lose".
2009-11-11 21:14:20 UTC
That's probably something that Bush thought going into Afghanistan and Iraq.

God hasn't changed sides. It was never on one side or another.

What makes people win wars is strategy, strength, technology, intelligence, and determination.

Not an invisible sky fairy.





@Whoa D- Their God IS your God. Look it up.
One Man's Opinion
2009-11-11 21:35:25 UTC
Few people know this, but the Supreme Court once deliberated for 10 years before deciding that America is a Christian nation. You hear a million times more about the Supreme Court's ruling on Roe v. Wade, for example. The left has an agenda that's anti-God, anti-Christian, etc. This agenda is advanced from 3 positions of power:



1. Academia - If you've been to college then you KNOW that most professors are liberal. MANY of them are RADICALLY liberal. They are SHAMELESS in their efforts to indoctrinate our young (18 to 22 year olds).



Even though I don't see it as much, I fear that with an organization like the NEA, even our school teachers tend to be more liberal than conservative, but that seems more on a community-by-community basis more than an across-the-board leaning to the left.



2. The media - In Socialist, Communist, Fascist, and other dictatorial forms of government, the government controls the media. In America, the media is in bed with the government; at least when the government is left of center.



3. Hollywood - Once again, in Socialist, Communist, Fascist, and other dictatorial forms of government, the government controls not only the media, but all forms and flows of information. You look at a Michael Moore film and you tell me that it's not a propaganda film for the left's cause. Look at all the homosexual-themed films that come out of Hollywood and tell me they aren't propaganda flicks for the gay movement in this country. Look at all of the anti-war movies that come out of Hollywood and tell me that they aren't propaganda films for the anti-war crowd.



They are! Again, the government isn't making these films or forcing Hollywood to do so, but the net affect is the same! You cannot coerce the willing!



So, you see that liberals have masterfully done an end around on God. They are idiotic about it in many ways. I mean ... who can't see them for who and what they are when they'll defend a so-called "artist" who drops a crucifix in a jar of urine as both an artist AND someone who should be protected under free speech and they call Robert Mapplethorp an "artist" and "photographer" for taking bizarre and disgusting pictures of deviant sexual behavior and defend his right to do so, but they won't defend any Christians who they attempt to silence at every turn.



Our Constitution prohibits the Federal Government from creating ANY LAW either FOR or AGAINST religion; yet, a FEDERAL court supposedly found a FEDERAL LAW that somehow prohibited a state judge from displaying the 10 commandments. If it wasn't so sad and disgusting, it would be funny! These people are insane. And they'll stop at nothing to destroy Christianity and advance their own religion of liberalism.



So, where's the national debate on God? It's NOT in the mainstream media! They hate God! Where's the calls to prayer for our nation? They aren't coming out of Hollywood or the media or out of academia! The secular-progressive movement will be happy when God is mentioned no more. So, we go to war on our whims, NOT after prayerful thought and introspection. We send our troops to war on the orders of Godless men who have no allegiance to anything or anyone but self.



And you're surprised that America is in the midst of a fall from grace? LOL! Read the rise and fall of the Roman Empire and see if you don't see eery similarities to America today. Liberals deny it but God rises up countries and God brings them down. We were once a Christian nation that was founded upon and committed to the principles of ADVANCING THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Now, is it any wonder that God allowed (even HELPED) us to rise to world dominance in a mere 200 years? That was God's will, not America's greatness!



Now we don't need God any longer? You sure?



Verily verily I say to you that if we don't return to our Christian roots then God will destroy this country. (And by destroy I don't necessarily mean wipe from the face of the earth, but we'll be as strong as the Netherlands and as vulnerable to attack as Sweden.



By the way ... God was on OUR side, not the other way around.



Lord bless.
Ashley Jeanne
2009-11-11 21:15:39 UTC
All nations and peoples (expressed Satanists and Atheists) believe they have God on their side. So, when they win, it's because they have God on their side and winning is God's will. When they lose it's God testing their faith so they have to endure, and because it isn't over. So regardless who wins, the fight goes on.



It's kind of like the Red Sox and the Yankees, it's always Wait till next year!
2009-11-11 21:13:48 UTC
Lincoln suggested we ought to try and be on god's side. Now, I don't believe in god and, if I did, not sure how there would even BE another side. But, that said, Abe was pretty right on within the context of your question.
Sandra M
2009-11-11 21:16:16 UTC
As the constitution mandates the separation between church and state, this has never been the US's official motto. I believe that God has nothing to do with our wars. He has given us free will and we either use it to bring each other closer or we use it to destroy ourselves.
2009-11-11 21:20:21 UTC
All these wars have only served to perpetuate hatred & coarse more problems. They only achieve to produce more fundamentalists & terrorists. When will we learn? how long will it take to realize our mistakes & that all these wars are just a waste of Human lives on both sides? it is the thousands of innocent civilians that I have any sympathy for, those who choose to fight deserve to die.
Whoa D
2009-11-11 21:14:33 UTC
I'd have to believe we're still on God's side because we are one of the few allies with God's nation, Israel. And for the United States to take on muslim extremist, I think it serves a good purpose. Since these same muslim extremist want to exterminate the Jewish people and anyone else who doesn't submit to their god's laws. In conclusion I'd say, yes we'll win.
quartering25 go jets
2009-11-11 21:16:10 UTC
if one would read the old testament, God told Israel to wipe out their enemies. I for one support the idea that to go to war and win, the earth must be scorched, kill all the enemy, but, I do not believe in war, because I know peace never comes through violence.
Just Me
2009-11-11 21:12:29 UTC
They believe God is on their side too. Conflict of interest.
Supernova
2009-11-11 21:17:10 UTC
God is unchanging, but these times we're in right now are all written and prophesied before as a sign that the coming of Jesus Christ is near, as written, it will be done. We need to be ready.
damienbfree
2009-11-11 21:12:28 UTC
God does not support war so that's why. God wants us to be peaceful and sane, not crazy and killing each other.
2009-11-11 21:15:40 UTC
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There is no god, god is on no-ones side.
2009-11-11 21:15:18 UTC
It works for me, but nobody else.
2009-11-11 21:15:10 UTC
It is as true today as it ever was. Heh.
2009-11-11 21:12:36 UTC
hey! Im the only person who can have the "infrared" avatar so quit schwagger jagging!


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