Question:
Is quantity of praying more important than quality of praying?
Annsan_In_Him
2013-12-11 01:46:05 UTC
I'm thinking of the sinner at the Temple, who Jesus called justified because he repentantly sought God's forgiveness just by a short cry of prayer from the heart. Jesus compared that with the religious zealot also in the Temple, praising God for being such a righteous worshipper. Comments, please?
Fifteen answers:
delta
2013-12-11 02:12:07 UTC
I think its neither quantity nor quality. Its the nature of the prayer that is important. Altruistic prayer is always better than any other form of prayer.



There are so many people who think of prayer as a wish from a genie kinda thing. For these people, neither quality nor quantity will do any good.
B Knott Wildered
2013-12-11 09:38:03 UTC
I would suggest it depends on your starting point, on what is your purpose for prayer. It is my firm belief that prayer has absolutely no effect whatsoever on God. That is not to say that prayers are not answered but rather that when we pray it does not change God in any way whatsoever. What changes is the one doing the praying. God's love is always there. But it is only by opening up and showing our love for God that God's love can begin to reach us. And the more we love God, the more love can reach us in return.



In a very real sense, prayer is like exercise. The more we exercise the stronger we become. The more we pray, if the prayer is done in the right spirit, the more efficacious become our prayers. In your example, one of those praying had the attitude that he had already arrived and therefore his prayer was simply one of believing the status quo was sufficient and therefore no change was needed. The other one recognized his weakness and therefore sought help from God. If we see ourselves as strong and in no need, we are not very likely to change and therefore God is not very likely to help us do anything more than remain the same. At least until possible troubles make us see ourselves in a different light. But the one who asks for assistance is the one who will receive assistance. Kind of like that old saw about how the squeaky wheel gets the grease.



But I find the more I pray the more I feel in the need of prayer. And the more I change the more I recognize that I need to change. And it is my belief that any praying is better than none at all. It is only God who can judge our hearts. I well understand the point you're trying to make and to an extent I can agree with you. But from my viewpoint I do not believe Jesus was making a statement about prayer but rather a statement about attitudes.



Peace
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2013-12-12 02:50:12 UTC
I believe that neither are anywhere near as important as sincerity, if we have trouble praying, the Holy Spirit will intervene for us with sounds we can never understand.



God will never answer yes to every prayer no matter how good, or how often, or how sincere we are, but He will grant most prayers that are in His will.



If I was to be granted 3 wishes by some Genie, my first wish would be for unlimited wishes. God does not grant wishes but He has told me that he has more in store for me than I could ever imagine or dream about.
Tiger
2013-12-11 15:42:34 UTC
Quality always come before quantity in the Kingdom of God. James 5



16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.



5:16 confess your sins. Mutual honesty, openness, and sharing of needs will enable believers to uphold each other in the spiritual struggle. effective prayer … can accomplish much. The energetic, passionate prayers of godly people have the power to accomplish much. Cf. Nu 11:2.



I do not think "righteous man" comes after "confess sin" by coninsidence. The "sinner" was justified as he had a honest repentance, as is it with us today. After repentance we can start aligning our will to God`s plan in prayer, and see the blessings coming. A broken and contrite heart God never turns away from.



Psalm 51:7 says, “My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.” The meaning of this is connected with the verse just before it. Verse 16 says, “You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings.” David is stating that there is nothing we can offer God to appease Him when we have sinned. More animal sacrifices were not what God was looking for. God desires true repentance.



Many people miss this truth. Rather than repent, they try to "clean up their act," give more, pray more, or busy themselves in other religious activity in the hopes that God will finally "get over" being mad at them. In Psalm 51, David is saying that God wants none of that. External religious activity cannot replace internal, heartfelt contrition (1 Samuel 16:7).



MIMI
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2013-12-17 11:22:59 UTC
sorry but Jesus himself prayed the same prayer 3 times in the garden before he was taken off by the jewish and roman authorities. Jesus isnt condemning repetition of prayer



http://www.scripturecatholic.com/vain_and_repetitious_prayer.html



Matt. 6:7 - Jesus teaches, "do not heap up empty phrases" in prayer. Protestants use this verse to criticize various Catholic forms of prayer which repeat phrases, such as litanies and the Rosary. But Jesus' focus in this instruction is on the "vain," and not on the "repetition."



Matt. 26:44 - for example, Jesus prayed a third time in the garden of Gethsemane, saying the exact same words again. It is not the repetition that is the issue. It's the vanity. God looks into our heart, not solely at our words.



Luke 18:13 - the tax collector kept beating his breast and praying "God be merciful to me, a sinner." This repetitive prayer was pleasing to God because it was offered with a sincere and repentant heart.



Acts 10:2,4 - Cornelius prayed constantly to the Lord and his prayers ascended as a memorial before God.



Rom. 1:9 - Paul says that he always mentions the Romans in his prayers without ceasing.



Rom. 12:12 - Paul commands us to be constant in prayer. God looks at what is in our heart, not necessarily how we choose our words.



1 Thess. 5:17 - Paul commands us to pray constantly. Good repetition is different than vain repetition.



Rev. 4:8 - the angels pray day and night without cessation the same words "Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty." This is repetitious prayer that is pleasing to God.



Psalm 136 - in this Psalm, the phrase "For His steadfast love endures forever" is more repetitious than any Catholic prayer, and it is God's divine Word.



Dan. 3:35-66 - the phrase "Bless the Lord" is similarly offered repeatedly, and mirrors Catholic litanies.
the internet
2013-12-11 02:05:51 UTC
Quality of prayer is an interesting idea.

How do you evaluate the quality of a prayer?

By its effectiveness?





In my experience prayers have zero effect (unless I pray for children in africa to die of starvation. These prayers are granted a thousandfold.)

Praying is telling an all-knowing god what he already knows.
2 Shepherds
2013-12-11 05:19:30 UTC
Indeed not. God looks on the heart, or attitude and intent. In your example, the Pharisee was essentially praising himself, being self-righteous. The publican had a humble, contrite attitude. That's the kind of attitude that pleases God.



Prayer is us communicating and connecting to God. We would do well to understand just what it is that we communicate to Him.
Wellll... hello then!
2013-12-11 02:38:39 UTC
This is also explained in the King James bible!

Christians in the light know that to be in the dark is to have no light of spiritual understanding at all of Gods truths which He has set aside only for His children!

This is also one of the marks to know who is a Christian in the light,Jesus said to His disciples''by their fruits you shall know them''meaning His true disciples!

Jesus said not everyone who calls Him Lord,Lord will get into heaven!
2013-12-11 01:56:46 UTC
Yes Sunshine is just another JW hypocrite.
Prof Fruitcake
2013-12-11 01:50:33 UTC
Many believe that reciting the rosary 100 times is prayer. It's not.
Lrac Nagas
2013-12-11 01:56:57 UTC
It is the same as rubbing a lamp and making one strong wish or rubbing it and making a bunch of little wishes.



Magic, gins and gods are mythical superstitions.
Abdul Rahmaan
2013-12-11 01:50:39 UTC
The important thing is, don't try to trick God! He already knows everything from motive to authenticity. Sometimes I even find it helpful to pray He gives me wisdom to express in words properly the need. Be honest and sincere in your prayers and give thanks.
2013-12-11 03:37:51 UTC
Quality and sincerity are what matters. Nowhere is that made more clear than when Jesus told his followers not to be like the hypocrites who pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners. They want to be seen by men who will think they are religious, pious and worthy of their respect. Jesus also told his followers not to pray like the pagans who babble and make lengthy prayers, thinking they will be heard because of their many words.



No, we are to pray in privacy. The 'model prayer' as taught by Jesus places God as our priority. We are to worship Him in our prayers, to earnestly seek to do God's will and then to make our requests. We also ask God to forgive us for our sins, always remembering that first we must forgive those who have sinned against us. We seek God's divine guidance and blessing as we face temptations and battle against our sinful nature. Finally, what we pray for must be in harmony with God's will. (Matthew 6:5-15)



Far too often, prayer is viewed as a “magic formula.” Some believe that if we do not say exactly the right things, or pray in the right position, God will not hear and answer our prayer. This is completely unbiblical. God does not answer our prayers based on when we pray, where we are, what position our body is in, or in what order we word our prayers. We are told in 1 John 5:14-15 to have confidence when we come to God in prayer, knowing He hears us and will grant whatever we ask as long as it is in His will. Similarly, John 14:13-14 declares, “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” According to these and many other Scriptures, God answers prayer requests based on whether they are asked according to His will and in the name of Jesus (to bring glory to Jesus).



So, what is the proper way to pray? Philippians 4:6-7 tells us to pray without being anxious, to pray about everything, and to pray with thankful hearts. God will answer all such prayers with the gift of His peace in our hearts. The proper way to pray is to pour out our hearts to God, being honest and open with God, as He already knows us better than we know ourselves. We are to present our requests to God, keeping in mind that God knows what is best and will not grant a request that is not His will for us. We are to express our love, gratitude, and worship to God in prayer without worrying about having just the right words to say. God is more interested in the content of our hearts than the eloquence of our words.



The closest the Bible comes to giving a “pattern” for prayer is the Lord’s Prayer in Matthew 6:9-13. Please understand that the Lord’s Prayer is not a prayer we are to memorise and recite to God. It is an example of the things that should go into a prayer—worship, trust in God, requests, confession, and submission. We are to pray for the things the Lord’s Prayer talks about, using our own words and “customising” it to our own journey with God. The proper way to pray is to express our hearts to God. Sitting, standing, or kneeling; hands open or closed; eyes opened or closed; in a church, at home, or outside; in the morning or at night—these are all side issues, subject to personal preference, conviction, and appropriateness. God’s desire is for prayer to be a real and personal connection between Himself and us.



Key to Jesus' words is the fact that God knows our needs and can read our hearts and minds. God knows when people are sincere, and it is that earnest and heartfelt plea of the sinner who seeks forgiveness that God that will hear.



No person can claim to be righteous, and all our deeds are like filthy rags before a holy and righteous God. The only way to approach the Father is through the Son. Only He can mediate on our behalf. If the believer has entered into the new covenant and is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, when God looks at the believer he sees only the righteousness of Christ Jesus.



LM
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2013-12-11 01:55:58 UTC
No, it's all pointless. Why? No gods exist.
2013-12-11 02:00:00 UTC
sinner at the temple ?



where is the book, chapter and verse ?


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